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Apple's China Problem

2021/10/13
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Doug Guthrie
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Eli Friedman
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Mark Zuckerberg
创立Facebook和Meta的美国商人,致力于推动社交媒体和元宇宙技术的发展。
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Meg Rittmeier
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Nilay Patel
以尖锐评论和分析大科技公司和政治人物而闻名的《The Verge》编辑总监。
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Peter Kafka
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Wayne Ma
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Nilay Patel:揭示苹果公司虚假宣传其在美国的生产活动,实则为了迎合特朗普政府的政治诉求,掩盖其在中国市场的实际依赖。 Peter Kafka:指出苹果公司与中国政府之间的复杂关系,表面上合作,实则为了保护自身在中国市场的利益,在人权和隐私问题上做出妥协。 Wayne Ma:详细阐述了苹果公司在中国供应链的运作模式,包括其对中国经济的贡献、劳工问题(低工资、高工时、临时工和学生工的剥削、以及可能存在的强迫劳动)、以及苹果公司为遵守中国法律而牺牲用户隐私和进行自我审查的现象。 Mark Zuckerberg:提及Facebook未能进入中国市场,这突显了中国政府对内容和信息类公司的严格管控。 Eli Friedman:分享了他作为苹果公司学术咨询委员会成员的经历,指出委员会未能有效开展深入研究,以了解苹果供应链中工人的真实生活状况,并批评苹果公司对改善劳工条件的消极态度。 Doug Guthrie:强调在中国开展业务的外国公司必须与中国政府合作,并指出那些在中国取得成功的公司通常都与中国政府建立了良好的合作关系。 Meg Rittmeier:指出中国消费者对苹果产品的巨大需求,以及如果苹果公司离开中国,将对中国消费者和经济造成负面影响。 Peter Kafka: 对苹果公司在中国供应链中存在的劳工问题、隐私问题和审查制度问题进行了深入探讨,并分析了苹果公司与中国政府之间的权力博弈,以及这种复杂关系的长期可持续性。

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Apple's relationship with China is complex, involving significant manufacturing and market presence, despite political tensions and compromises on privacy and human rights.

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Much of Apple’s success is built around its relationship with China, which is both one of Apple’s largest markets as well as where most of its products are manufactured. It’s a complicated relationship that has seen Apple make compromises with an authoritarian regime over privacy and human rights in pursuit of huge profits. 

This episode is produced in collaboration with reporter Wayne Ma and the technology and business publication ‘The Information.’

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