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Googlers vs. Google

2021/3/23
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Shirin Ghaffary和Alex Kantrowitz:Timnit Gebru的解雇事件是谷歌内部信任危机的一个缩影,反映了员工与领导层之间严重缺乏信任,以及谷歌在处理AI伦理和员工权益问题上的矛盾。Gebru的离职标志着谷歌公司内部员工与领导层之间信任的彻底丧失,这对于谷歌的未来以及用户来说都具有重大意义。 Lawrence Berland:谷歌内部的信任在过去几年中持续恶化,这与谷歌在处理Maven项目、Dragonfly计划、Andy Rubin性骚扰事件以及Miles Taylor的招聘等事件中的不当处理方式有关。谷歌对员工的监控和报复行为,以及对内部政治讨论的限制,进一步加剧了员工的不满和不信任。 Timnit Gebru:谷歌对AI伦理问题的关注不足,以及对大型语言模型潜在风险的忽视,导致了她与公司领导层之间的冲突。她认为谷歌内部对学术自由的限制,以及对弱势群体的漠视,使得她在谷歌无法继续其AI伦理研究工作。她对谷歌在多样性和包容性方面的努力表示失望,并认为在谷歌内部倡导弱势群体的权益会使自身处境更加艰难。 Alex Hanna:Gebru的解雇事件是谷歌内部权力失衡和缺乏透明度的体现。谷歌对Gebru论文的处理方式不公正,并且对批评声音的压制,进一步加剧了员工的焦虑和不信任。 Sundar Pichai:承认谷歌的文化正面临信任危机,并承诺调查Gebru的离职事件,但其具体措施和效果仍有待观察。

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Dr. Timnit Gebru, co-lead of Google's Ethical AI team, experienced an unexpected email stating her resignation was accepted, despite not resigning. This incident highlights the growing distrust between Google's employees and leadership, raising questions about the company's culture and ethical practices.

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On December 2nd, 2020, Dr. Timnit Gebru - co-lead of Google’s Ethical AI team - got an email that said Google had accepted her resignation. A resignation she didn’t think she made. Her exit is just the latest sign of the crisis unfolding within Google — a loss of trust between many of its employees and leadership. This week, what led to Gebru’s exit - and what it means for us, Google’s users. Because when enough people who work inside Google don't even trust each other -- how can we?

  • Hosts: Shirin Ghaffary (@shiringhaffary)) and Alex Kantrowitz (@kantrowitz))

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