Breakup etiquette, tattoo removals & beefing with a brand
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If you voice out a breakup, that is the worst way to end it with somebody. I would text back and be like, you didn't even have the audacity to like come see me in person. You know what? Let me pull up the DMs because I have them. Oh, this is juicy. We're going to put them on blast here. All I'm hearing is girl mouth. And if I was shopping in Canada, I'd be like, well, I'm actually saving $40. So I'm just going to buy a bunch more things.

I have to buy all these things that I don't actually need, but I'm buying. Welcome back to the episode of Mean Girl Pod. Tell us all about that sweatshirt with those big letters on there, young lady. Oh, this says, um, Brekkie. That's, that, I was like, is it a park one? Is it the bar? Oh, I know. I, um, when I saw this, I was like,

I thought maybe it was one of them. And then I saw it said Brecky on it. And I'm like, it's just the style these days, but I'm here for it. I love a sweatshirt with big varsity letters on it. What is this? Is it Breck breakfast or not Breckenridge? I assume. No, it's a brand. It's a breakfast brand. They, they sent me, um,

I don't want to say like overnight oats, but kind of like overnight oatmeal. It came in like a little yogurt container with different types of oats, but it was flavored like apple cinnamon, dark chocolate. And the brand's called Brekkie, but they also gave me this sweatshirt. And I was like, this sweatshirt is so adorable. I love this color. I absolutely... Like I wanted to get... I want to get that sweatshirt. I love it. I love the color, the two-tone. Honestly, like...

Brands should just make very cute sweatshirts because that's what people wear these days. And then people are going to be like, what's this brand? And then there you go. It's free advertising. Brekkie is a really cute name for a brand like that too. Right? Like an overnight oat situation. Yeah, very cute. I didn't look, but I wonder if they're Australian because in Australia they call breakfast brekkie, I believe. I wonder if they are. Yeah, no, I think they do. Would you like some brekkie? Brekkie.

I would love... Have you been to... What's the breakfast spot? There's like two locations and it's Australian and it's in New York. Ruby's? Oh my gosh. Banter. Banter. Have you been to Banter? No. Where is that? There's one in Soho and there's one in... It's kind of like, I think, meatpacking, but you should go. You would love it. It's all Australian food. Okay. I'll have to check that out because there's a place called Sunny Boy in the East Village that's Australian and they have the best...

food and espresso martinis I haven't had their I haven't been there in years but it was so good and then Ruby's which is also a little bit of a chain their food is so good and they're also Australian like Australians just make really good food

I would see Remy Bader talk about Ruby's before I moved to New York City. And I was like, I don't ever know what she's talking about. And then when I moved there, I stayed in a hotel right by a Ruby's and I ate like every meal there. And that restaurant is undefeated. It is so good. They opened up a new location kind of, well, actually, you know where it is, where Fellini's Coffee is.

Oh, yes. Like in that area. Two bangers. So good. Yeah. That's... Yeah, yum. Um...

Your sweatshirt kind of matches your monster and your nail. It's a whole party. You got a whole party going on, don't you? You got all the blue. Back with matching my monster with my nails, I had to get new nails because the move completely destroyed my nails, you guys. They were ripped to pieces, so I had to get them done a week earlier. But I have the blue Hawaiian monster, and actually there are parts of the monster that are the exact same color as my nails. Oh.

That is like the best thing on the planet. You're loving the Blue Hawaiian. This is like the third week in a row. And people are DMing you left, right, and center about it. It honestly might be my new favorite flavor. I'm sorry, White Monster Ultra, but like this flavor, I just love that pineapple orange citrus taste. It's so good. Okay, so like third week in a row with the Blue Hawaiian, and it's a frontrunner. Wow. Also...

The can is just beautiful. I'm just like in a blue. I'm not in a blue mood from like feeling blue. I just love the color blue right now.

Yeah, well, I think if the nails are blue, like that's how you know. Right? It's just so fun. So yeah, I'm really loving the Ultra Blue Hawaiian. It's their newest flavor. It's everywhere now. I see it like in any store I go to. So if you guys haven't tried it yet, make sure to do it and keep DMing us if you do try it because we love seeing your DMs. It's the fave. It's the total fave. All right. So you're all moved in. Yes. So I promise you my roses and thorns won't have anything to do with moving this week.

Okay, what do they have to do with? Okay, so should we do Thorne's first, correct? Yeah, I like that. Let's do it. Okay, so quick question. I forgot. Have you started getting your period again? Not yet. I do actually. It's funny. I'm like cramping today. So stay tuned. I'll let you know. But like, let's hope not. Because apparently it hurts really bad. But no, I haven't.

Oh, really? Your first period postpartum is painful? Apparently, you have to shed, like, your lining. And so, yeah, apparently it's, like, you're, like, down bad. Oh, gosh. Keep us posted because I'm so curious about what that – if that is different than, like, your other periods pre-pregnancy. Yeah, I'll tell you. Yeah. Yeah, I'll let you know. What I want to talk about, though, regarding periods, though, is –

I really wish I would have allowed myself to be educated on this sooner, but I didn't realize how bad and toxic tampons are for us. Remember when I told you I went to Paris and I ran out of tampons and I bought the, I can't remember if I told you this, but I bought the organic ones. I don't.

I don't remember. Tell me again. So all these tampons were, and it was all I could find was it it's over in Europe. So I'm sure they have no chemicals or anything. And it's literally just like an absorption pad that goes up and it expands out. I could wear it for 30 minutes. And then I was like doubled over and like excruciating pain. I like ended up just wearing a pad.

Which was like very odd. And so I don't know what we put in our tampons here, but I know we put something different in them. But I do know it doesn't make me double over in pain, but it's very fascinating. Wait, that is so interesting because... So when I went to Minnesota a few...

weeks ago, Madeline and I had our period at the same time. And for some reason, I didn't pack enough tampons. So I was like, hey, can I borrow a tampon? And she was like, yes, but I only have the cardboard ones. And I was like, absolutely not. Like, I'm not using a cardboard tampon because just out of fear, not because of any other reason, because that scares me.

And she was like, Jordan, you need to stop using the regular types of tampons. They're so toxic. They actually cause worse period symptoms, longer periods. Like there's so many chemicals in them. And when she told that to me, I was kind of like, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But then I kept seeing these TikToks. I swear our phones hear us about all these girls being like, as soon as I switched to like,

Like the cardboard tampons or the organic tampons are just pads. My periods were shorter, less painful, less heavy, like all of this stuff. And now I'm starting to think like, okay, I have like a seven day period. If I didn't use tampons, like would my period be this bad and this long? Like I haven't switched over to organic yet, but it made me start to think about it because I got my period last night.

So I, I had always used cardboard. Like the first tampon my mom ever gave me was a cardboard tampon. So I always just used to them. But I do know when you put the plastic, like little parts of it do like shed off and that there are a lot more chemicals in those, although they, they are more pleasant, they are worse for you. I, I have also heard this. It's so fascinating. You're talking about it. I know. So I,

After I go through this box, because tampons are expensive, I am going to start using the organic ones to see if I notice a difference. Like if I notice like a lighter period, more pleasant period, because I'm just becoming a little bit more aware of what we're putting in our bodies. I also just, I haven't yet because it just came today. I switched to aluminum free deodorant because I'm just becoming so aware of

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Oh my God. I never even thought about that. What if we use the powder detergent? Is that better? Do you think it's better? But most of the time the powder detergent comes in a plastic, um, like it's, it's everywhere. I know we're starting to sound like Pete and Harrison that we were making fun of literally like months ago. And I have water in a plastic cup. Same. The only thing that's good is this monster.

go monster yeah it's like so crazy though it's once you i don't know about you it sounds like this is happening to you though but like once i heard it i really like couldn't unhear it and i was just like ew well is i have a question and i don't know if you know this answer but is your armpit a pit or a puff like if you touch your armpit is it like a pit like does it go in or is it kind of puffy oh okay i was like i don't know uh

I would say it's a pit. Okay, see, that's good. So I never noticed that my armpit was a puff until very recently because I saw a TikTok. And it was saying that everyone should have a pit. And if you have a puff, it means you're inflamed. And I know I have large lymph nodes in my armpits because I have talked to my doctor about it.

Just because like in the past I would feel them and I'm like, oh my gosh, what is this? But I was starting to do research and it was like talking about how that's what prompted me to use aluminum free deodorant. Because regular deodorant can put toxins in your body that cause inflammation. You could just be inflamed, this or that. Because I like noticed, I was like, my mom has a pit. Pete has a pit. Why do I have a puff? So I'm just like in this phase of where I'm very aware of why.

what I'm putting in my body and how it's affecting me because I didn't realize it was not normal to have a puff, a puffy pit. I had like never even heard of the pit versus puff. Who, wait, who told you the deal? Is that a deodorant campaign? No, on TikTok, I got served a video and the girl was like, do you have a pit or a puff? And of course, once I watched that video, they just kept popping up. And then one of them was like,

Ways to get rid of inflammation in your armpit is to use aluminum-free deodorant because other deodorants can cause nasty chemicals to cause inflammation. And I don't know. I was just like, I never really realized I had a puff, so I'm wondering if this is a newer thing.

So I'll be curious to hear your experience with the aluminum free because one, the tampons I tried that were organic and two, I think it's something free deodorant. But I would bleed through the tampons and I noticed it didn't remove. Like I would still sweat through the deodorant I tried. And I know there's brands out there that do a good job. So I'm curious to hear which ones you use. Yeah, Pete was like...

Make sure you're not going to hang out with anyone when you start using aluminum-free deodorant because you probably will smell it. I'm like...

thankfully I work from home but too I am a very aware that it does take a while for your body to get used to it but I got the salt and stone one and I heard salt and stone is like I don't know if you've used their body washes and stuff that smells so good so I was like okay I feel like hopefully they've kind of figured it out but I'll let you know how it goes I I do think it's gross that like the aluminum like makes it work like what right what

I also started to get a little bit of like a rash. Like, I don't know if you've ever gotten irritation from deodorant. I'm starting to get that from this deodorant I've been using. So I'm just like, what? I don't know. I've just been very hyper aware. I sound like my dad. Yeah, I don't blame you. I mean, oof. So yeah, long story short, that's my thorn. What's yours? That's a good thorn. Okay, my thorn is your girl, Hailey Bieber.

I'm sad about how road is delivering their PR packages versus the people that actually spend money and purchase the real package. So I saw a video and it was this influencer and she got like the pretty red fuzzy PR box from them and like opened it up and it was all the products inside. And then somebody stitched it and was like, sorry, I'm not like a famous influencer and like opened her box and

And it was just like one lip gloss in there just like flying around with like a little card at the bottom. And then I was like, for some reason, on road TikTok. And a lot of people were posting their packages and they were like, I really hope that they...

fix their packaging that they give to consumers that actually spend money to buy the product because there's like a large discrepancy in like influencer boxing versus like true consumer boxing. And I was, and I was like, that's a really good point. That's not fair. Wait, that's very annoying because it's not that hard to put in. Like, I mean, I would understand if they were trying to be less, less wasteful, but it's like, okay, if you're going that route, make sure you're matching influencers, non-influencers, because it's not that hard to put like,

a thing in there to make it a little bit more presentable. Also, like don't have your products just like going up and down in the box. It was like a, it was a pretty good sized box. Yeah. And there was one. Yeah. And there was one lip gloss in it flying around. And then just like a card, like it was really underwhelming opening it. And I,

I thought it was a good point. Like if you're going to spend so much on influencer unboxing, you can get just as much views on somebody else unboxing it. So, you know, really have the quality of your packaging. Also, like I trust I would much I'd be much more likely to buy a product from someone who like genuinely bought a product and loved it versus an influencer. I knew that got like paid to talk about it or get sent their PR all the time.

I completely agree. And I think that you would if you even if they just tied a bow around it, you know, it would be like, OK, this is a really cute way to get it. But you see these influencers opening it. So then you're influenced to buy and you open yours and it's like, want, want, want. Right. I actually am pretty upset with road. I have like beef with them.

I saw this TikTok. You've got beef with the Hales. Yeah. So I like, I mean, this is on Thanksgiving. I made a girl math video that went like very viral. It was about how I was talking about how, you know, if since my parents brought me to the airport and I didn't buy coffee, I saved $74. So I actually can buy Haley's travel kit and get her products for free. Like it was about road.

And it went viral to the point where Rode reached out to me and they were like, can we use your video? And I was like, yeah, of course. Like, this is great. It'll put me in their good graces because I love Hailey's products. Like, I'm obsessed with their milk glaze. And, you know, I thought that in my head, I was like, okay, maybe if we like build this relationship, they'll at least put me on their PR list. They then sent me, I can't remember if they sent me, you know what, let me pull up the DMs because I have them.

Oh, this is juicy. We're going to put them on blast here. Yeah, because like for how much money they make, they are just like, I'm pretty pissed about them. So they said, hi, Jordan, we love your video and would love to repost your TikTok and tag you with our permission. Plus, let us know if you need restock of any road goodies. So they actually asked me first and I was like, oh my God, I love you guys so much. Feel free to post anywhere. Also, I would love to

and I like listed a few products and then they said amazing let us know your best shipping address that was December 9th never received a package from them I messaged them again because I moved and I was like just want to reach out and give you my new my new mattress my new address like looking forward to working together in 2025 never responded and I'm like okay I just gave you a

free video that you usually charge influencers probably $10,000 to make and you couldn't even send me a product after you told me you would it'd be like you know what I mean it's not just like I don't know I have I have beef I was like you couldn't just send me some milk glaze it's also the principle of it okay so not only like would would typically they they pay you to make that but you organically made it and it got a ton of views so

At a minimum, they should have been like shipping address and sent you something. That's the minimum. They don't ask you what you want. They just say, we're going to add you to the list. Yeah. And it would be one thing if they never asked if I wanted to restock in anything.

But like they did. And then they just never sent anything, which I find kind of a slap in the face. I feel like they used me for my video, told me they were going to send me stuff with maybe like a little like crutch to like want me to give them their video, which I would have given to them. Like even if they didn't ask, because like I said, I love them. But then they just like ghosted me and I was like, OK, cool, guys. Did they post the video? Yeah. They posted the video on TikTok and Instagram, I think.

Okay, I'm going to request we clip this and tag them. I'm sorry, but we have to hold them accountable. That's not fair, Jordan. I thought so too because it's like I didn't DM them and be like, give me product. They asked for my video and said that they would send me stuff and they just ghosted me but then posted my video. Yeah, no, that's not fair. I think it's good that you're saying this. They just got to send you some product.

And I usually would never beef with a brand, but like, and also be using their products. Let me, let me get that straight. I love their products, but I have beef with them and I feel like I'm on the right side here. So I will announce my beef to the world.

Yeah, you're a real life user and consumer and clearly a loyalist because you're going to keep using their product. Like, come on, road. Throw her a bone. Yeah, I mean, like, I've spent hundreds of dollars of my own money on their products. It's not like I'm just, like, being, like, a... You made a video. Yeah, like, an annoying, like, like...

content creator about it. I'm like, no, I made a video because I love you guys. I've spent hundreds of dollars on your products. You reached out, used my video, asked if you could send me stuff and just ghosted me, never sent me stuff. That's bad business. Yeah, and you just read the DMs. Okay, so we're going to... That's exciting. Wow. Yeah. I feel feisty. We don't often have beef on this pod, but today we have a little...

I know. I usually don't have beef where I feel like I'm fully on the right side. I'm like, I feel like I'm fully on the right side. No, you are. Okay. So on a happier note, what's your rose? My rose is... Well, do you want to do your rose first? Because my rose is going to get us into the TV shows. Yes. And I hope that your rose next week or the week after is that Rhodes sent you such a big box that you...

That it doesn't even fit in the frame of your phone. Can you, if, if road sends me a huge box of stuff, I will all like do a giveaway because like, I, I just want the milk. I'll give it to you so you could use it. Thank you. I honestly bought their lip stuff.

Yeah, do you like it? Yeah, I like it. I love my L'Oreal lip stuff that I just like. I'm loyal to this one thing. I mean, let's be real. L'Oreal can do no wrong in my eyes. They are the best. I use all their products. I'm obsessed. It's the same. Yeah, I'm thrilled. Okay, so Rose.

My rose is I have changed the app that I now send money on. And I wanted to ask you between Venmo, Cash App and Zelle, which one do you use? Oh, my God, Alex, you're going to kill me. I only use Venmo. Please don't tell me you stopped using Venmo. I haven't stopped using it, but it's not my primary anymore. OK, and which one do you think is the most used?

Well, I would feel like between people Venmo, but I think businesses, it might be Zelle. So Zelle has twice, two times the amount of users. So Cash App and Venmo combined, Zelle still has more users. Everyone uses Zelle and I had no idea. I thought it was like the underdog, but they're the only ones that don't charge you any money. Like it's a direct transfer. And I didn't realize that like

Cash App and Venmo have to use a third party, take the money out, put the money back in. But Zelle connects like straight to the bank. So everyone uses Zelle and everyone knew that. But I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. I know Pete uses Zelle, but like I genuinely could not tell you any of my friends that have ever used anything but Venmo. Same in the way that Venmo got us all was they made it like a...

fun social media moment with putting emojis and sending stuff and following friends. And they like, we're all just like, yeah, Venmo's like the cool thing, but they're running a con on us and Zelle's the real one. Can you use Zelle similar to Venmo though? Like how it's an app and you can send people money through an app? No, it's just bank to bank. So the episode I was listening to explain this equated to email, um,

So like, you don't know if somebody's on Gmail, if they're on their phone, if they're like, you know what their address is, but you don't know the app that's hosting that they're emailing you on. And that's how Zelle is. It just integrates into all the banks. But Venmo, although we use Venmo as like a verb, right? Like I'm going to Venmo you. Yeah. It's, it's a secondary app, but Zelle's the one that like really integrates with all the banks. So it's like the one we should use. It's cheaper. Would you say it's user-friendly? Yeah.

Super. Really? I just like, yeah, I zelled somebody today. I just zelled their phone number, put it in and zelled it. Oh, and then it just goes right into their bank account versus like a third party app that Vemo has.

exactly so like on my bank at my bank they have the zelle component in there but venmo is like takes your money out of the bank they have the money and then puts the money in their bank whereas zell's bank to bank but you're kind of persuading me to want to use zelle i didn't realize it was that easy i know i listened to a new podcast on zelle on this whole thing and i was like well that makes sense remember when paypal was like the way of transferring money

I mean, it still is. I still use PayPal more than Zelle or Cash App. Same. But do you know what I was thinking? Like we used to live in a time where like

You had to have cash on you to pay somebody like a babysitter. I Venmo or Zelle all the babysitters. I literally yesterday went up to a little stand in New York wanting a coffee and they're like cash only. And I'm like, well, that's a thing still. Are you kidding? We don't have cash. Oh my gosh. Also, this just reminded me.

Canada, Venmo's not legal there. Neither, like, so we were at the Super Bowl party and we all had like $5 on a square, right? And they were all like, oh yeah, we brought cash. Like, we don't Venmo. And I was like, how do you transfer money? How do they? I don't think they had Zelle either, actually, now that I'm saying this. I don't think they had cash. Oh, they have Cash App. They have Cash App, which I don't have. Why is it illegal to Venmo?

I don't know. It's just like not... I don't know. Isn't that wild? I feel like if I lived in Canada, life would be happier. It seems like a simpler place. Yeah.

It truly is. And everyone was like so nice and just like chilling. I've never been to Canada, which is wild. Like I need to go. We live, our flight to Toronto is like two hours from New York. You should go to Toronto. I do think that like, I would love to go to one day. I'm just not going anytime soon. I think you should go. Yeah. Toronto would be kind of a hike for you guys. Wouldn't it? Or I guess Vancouver is pretty far too. Cause it's kind of like, or no, is it closer?

No, no, no. You're right. It is like that. We just have randomly a direct flight to Toronto. So like it would be technically easier. I'm just not, I don't see it in my future. Which one, which one is like the more is Vancouver more of like the London European looking city in Toronto or New York. So from what I understand, cause I haven't been in Toronto. I think it's very New York. Yes. Okay. I think it's, but Vancouver is,

It's truly unlike anywhere you've ever been because it's on the water and it has the mountains and the ski towns right there, but also it's got a huge city. So it's like, I don't know what you would compare it to. Like I know last week we said if Aspen and LA had a baby, which is like pretty good. I think you have to add in like Seattle, but yeah,

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I'd like to go to Vancouver. I think over Toronto. Pete goes to Toronto for work and he's like, as someone who lives in New York, he's like, it's cool, but like it's a city. And I've just heard Victoria. I've just heard Victoria.

Vancouver is so beautiful and I really would like to go there yeah it it truly is beautiful I agree I don't know I want to go to Toronto just to go actually I kind of want to go to Montreal I think that would be cool they speak French right yeah well in in Vancouver everything is like the airport is French on top and um English below can Harrison speak French no oh okay

So it's not like the first... He actually probably can understand it a bit, though. Like, he can read the signs, yeah. Okay, but Vancouver is more English-speaking. Yes, but they all... So their prime minister has to speak English and French, and everything is translated into both languages. All of Canada. Okay, I was going to say, I'm going to ask you a question. That might be a little dumb. And I was going to ask you if the prime minister is the prime minister of all of Canada, or if it's based off a territory. Okay.

I do know it's a territory. There's no question. Too stupid. I tell you what, I had no idea. I was like, you guys speak French up here? I do remember the prime minister. I don't know if it's the same one, but he was very attractive. Oh my God. Yes, he resigned. Just resigned. Drawing a blank on his name. I cannot believe I'm drawing a blank on it. So they have a new one then? Yeah, Trudeau. Justin Trudeau. Yeah. Is that a celebrity's name too? Oh, yeah.

Maybe? Trudeau, though. That's his name, right? I'm going to look it up. Justin. Maybe not. It could not be. Oh, no. Prime Minister of Canada. Yes. Yep. Yep. That's him. 53 years old? Wow. Wow.

Wow. I am actually shocked. I thought he was like 45. Same. So who's the new one? I don't know. I think like they got into some fight with America and Trudeau like resigned and then there was like something. Yeah. I just said. That's just what I saw. I just said like who's the prime minister of Canada but it looks like nothing's popping up. It just says Justin Trudeau resigned. So I'm assuming they're still trying to figure it out. Yeah.

No, they don't have anyone yet. Okay, this is my last Canada fact for you. Okay, so we were shopping and I like was in Zara. If I spent $100 in Zara, how much was it Canadian? Okay, so you spent $100 in...

In Zara and you're asking me how much it would so if it was $100 US you're asking me how much would be in Canada. Yeah but I did it wrong if it was $100 Canadian how much was it US dollars. I bet it was like 60 something US. Yeah it was 67 US dollars. I remember. It's crazy.

Best thing ever. I remember when I was younger, still to this day, because you know how all our price tags are like US and Canada? I used to always be like, wow, Canada is so much more expensive than the US. Yeah, and they hadn't price adjusted some of the stuff. So I went to Zara, for example, and

And I remember thinking, like, I was like, is this stuff marked up higher? And they were like, no, we're not price adjusted. So it was like you were shopping with a little bit of a discount, which was nice. It was girl math, but it was nice. Do they have designer stuff there? Vancouver has designer stuff.

Hermes, Prada, because they have a massive Asian influence there. So a ton of, they have a huge Asian community and Asians love to shop at the high end retail. So like they have, you name it, they have it. Louis Vuitton, Versace, Baccarat, Hermes. Like they just have this row of pristine stores. So my question is, what does a price tag of a designer bag look like in Canada versus the U.S.?

So I asked them because I wanted to go look and I never went myself, but they said they're not price adjusted yet. So his mom was like, if there's a purse you want, you should buy it here. It will be cheaper. Not not directly like the

67% whatever is how strong their dollar is. But she said, I think she said it'd be like 20 to 30% cheaper. Or he told me that somebody told me that. Interesting. Cause I know like when you go to Europe, you want to buy the bags because they're a lot in more, they're a lot cheaper or not like a lot, but they are cheaper. Interesting though with Canada too.

And did you know in Europe, if you buy the bag and you go to the airport and you have your receipt, they reimburse you the tax? Yeah. My friends have done that before. I've never done it. I've always wanted to do it. I think that's like really cool. It's worth it. You get like your money back pretty much. Yeah, basically. You get the tax back, which you might as well not pay if you don't have to. All I'm hearing is girl mouth. And if I was shopping in Canada, I'd be like, well, I'm actually saving $40. So I'm just going to buy a bunch more things. Yeah.

I have to buy all these things that I don't actually need, but I'm buying. Oh, I love that. That's cool. No, I love learning about Canadian facts because for how close we are to them, it's very sad how little I know about Canada.

When I landed there, I thought that the dollar was their currency. I know that that is so dumb of me. And then Harrison pulled out like his Canadian dollar and like they're plastic. They're waterproof. It's like, it's really quite cool. They got a whole thing going on. I remember that TikTok that you made. But hey, it's not a dumb, it's not a dumb question because I asked about if the prime minister is the prime minister of all of Canada. Yeah.

Yeah, I just, I don't know. I just assume they're close enough. Like we just probably, they probably using the dollar up there, but no, they got a whole thing. Yeah. You never know. Okay. What's, what's your rose? Okay. So my rose is that TV shows are popping out like left and right. And I'm in TV show heaven right now. Like there are so many good ones out and coming out in February.

So tell us like a top three. Yeah. So I thought we could do our recs earlier in the show and do like what TV shows we're watching, what we recommend. Cause I know a lot of people love the shows we recommend, but,

Uh we've gotten DM'd of people Especially High Potential have you started that yet I've watched half of an episode And then I had to go feed a child But yes did you like it and I loved it I loved it I absolutely loved it It's the one I want to it so it's the number one Next one on my list that I want to like start watching Okay that I would say that's probably like The most feedback that I've seen is um

People really liked High Potential, and I was like, oh, it's so good. So my top three that I'm watching right now is season three of Yellow Jackets, Love, that just came out on Valentine's Day. Love is blind because I don't like reality TV, and I know that sounds very annoying and pick me, but for some reason, I don't think my brain can wrap around fake storylines. I love...

fiction so much, but this season on Love is Blind, it's in Minneapolis. I had no idea. So, like, there's a few contestants that me and my friends know. It's wild. No way. Yeah. So, one of the girls, I...

if and I I'm so sorry if anyone listening hasn't caught up to me so maybe fast forward because I'm gonna do a little spoiler one of the girls her sister or sorry one of the girls I sorry I went to college with a girl she was in my sorority her sister is one of the contestants but unfortunately she didn't make it uh far in the in the season so she's like barely shown another guy my friend has like kissed before another guy one of my friends went on a date with before um I

I think one of the guys I like saw on Hinge in Minnesota before, it's like so wild because I'm like these people like grew up. Like one girl was like, I grew up in Woodbury. I'm like, oh my God, Woodbury was a 45 minute drive from me. It's just wild.

Oh my God, that's so... Why did I not know they... I guess I didn't know they traveled cities. That makes it so much more fun to watch. So how many episodes in are you? So I'm in... I think they launched the first four and that's like when they're in the pods and then they have shown like who everyone picks. And then I think on Friday, so last Friday when this episode comes out, they'll release another four and it will be when they go on their like...

So it's like vacation post pods where the couples get to be together intimately and just be together for the first time. And then they move in together. So that'd be really cool because I'll get to like see places in Minneapolis and then they meet the parents. And then it's we see if they walk down the altar together.

So is Love is Blind replacing The Bachelor, Bachelorette? No, I don't think so. Because this is season eight, I believe, of Love is Blind. And it's on Netflix only. And The Bachelor, Bachelorette obviously is...

On like ABC So I don't think So I think it's just Like a dating show But I mean like In popularity Like I don't see I feel like people Were talking about The Bachelor The Bachelor A ton back in the day Now it feels like All love Like love is blind Is the thing Like do you think That they just took The concept And like made it better Like moving in together Is genius I mean

I mean, it is a very smart show in the sense, like, you date these people blindly. Like, you literally, and you see people's true colors. Like, people will see their person and be like, I'm not physically attracted to them. Like, it's just, like, so raw and real. Like, the things that people say and how they treat each other. And, like, they'll be like, you, like, it really does go to show that love isn't always blind. Like, you need that physical attraction. So, I think it's a little bit more raw and real. Yeah.

And more crazy than The Bachelor. But I don't know. It's one of those reality shows that I actually kind of do enjoy because it's just wild. But it happened. It came out during COVID and it just blew up. Like, I think it was so much more popular than people thought it would be. Yeah. It's like massive. So...

That's my second show. And then my last show is, of course, White Lotus because the new season just came out. And how do you like the new season? So they're episodic. So they only release an episode every Sunday, which sucks. So I've only watched one episode. So it's hard to say. The first episode was a little slow. They also got rid of their iconic theme song, which is weird. I don't know why they would do that.

But I'm excited to watch the next one. Like it's one of my favorite shows. So I really hope that they redeem themselves the second episode. Okay. I think that's a really good list of what you're watching. What are you watching?

So High Potential is what I'm watching, right? And then I have two that I want to watch, which is Lioness and Landman, which are made by Taylor Sheridan, who's the same guy that did Yellowstone. So like that Yellowstone is my Super Bowl. So those are also on my list to watch. And then I'm on Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds' TikTok. Like I'm so on it. Okay, can we talk about how...

Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively were at the SNL 50 show. So what do you think about that? I was, well, one, I was like, that's ballsy. I was not expecting them to be there. Like, I was shocked. I was like, wait a second. Is this, is this AI? Like, I thought someone was playing a prank on me. But when I saw that Ryan had a part in the show where he stood up, I don't know if you guys didn't see Amy Poehler and Amy, sorry,

Yeah, Amy Poehler and Tina Fey were asking the audience questions, and the audience were all very famous people. And they asked – or sorry, the audience was asking them questions, and Ryan raised his hand, and Amy and Tina were like, oh, Ryan Reynolds, how are you? And he's like, why? What have you heard? And Blake Lively's face was like, are you kidding me right now? I was shocked. I was shocked too, and I have two thoughts on it, and so I'm curious to hear yours. Okay. Okay.

Well, did you see her giving the hug to Amy Schumer? No, I didn't see that. So there was just like a random, it was when they were all walking in and they saw each other for the first time. And Amy like went over to give her a hug. I think it was Amy Schumer. And she just, Blake just like looked like she was about to cry. Like very much. So just like looked sad, I guess. I don't know that. So that's just one school of thought. I didn't know if you saw that interaction. Yeah.

The second thing is like one, if your wife really was sexually harassed,

I don't think you make like a joke about it at the SNL thing. That's like my one school of thought. The other school of thought is like this whole case is very press related. And so I thought that that could have been a good move for the public. So like I do see that strategy attempt. I just think that one thing that this case is teaching us is like as big as they are trying to make it publicly like the laws not really effing with the publicity side of things. So

Just juicy, ballsy. I'm glad they did it. It was a nice internet moment, but like, whoa. Yeah. No, I so agree with that where I was shocked that Ryan made that joke. And I don't know if you saw. Oh my God. Why am I blanking on his name? He's very famous.

Oh, it's going to piss me off. If you saw the video, people will know he's an older actor, but his face. Kevin Costner. Yes. Yes. Your boy. John Dutton. Yes. Yes. When did you see his face and Ryan made the joke? Yes. He was not having it. And same with Anna. Oh, what's her what's her name? The girl from the Queen's Gambit. Anna Taylor Joy. Oh, I don't know her name. I didn't see her reaction. She rolled her eyes when Ryan made the joke.

Did she? Yeah. I think it's, is it Anna Taylor Joy? Is that what Julie said? Anna, I think she said, yeah. Yeah. She like rolled her eyes. We don't know. She says Anna.

I just, if I'm famous and in that room, I'm also just like, you're giving everybody a bad rap. Like it just is a bit annoying. Like you filed this lawsuit. Like she wasn't a producer. She was trying to act as a producer. Like that's not how we do things. And I do see how you would, I do see how you would roll your eyes. Right. Also, I was just like shocked to see them together. Cause I'm like, I thought you guys were getting divorced. Yeah.

Oh, I think over his dead body. You think? I don't know why. I just do for some reason. Like, and they're so delusional. I just, I saw they like made an amends to the lawsuit, but there was like still no evidence. It was all just like alleged. Interesting. It's just like, what's happening? I also love that like Scarlett was there. I bet Scarlett was just like, F you guys.

I loved the two exes. It was like Scarlett, not even like probably she's laughing all the way home, right? Right. Scarlett and Ryan. And then I forgot Kim and Pete Davidson dated. And I saw this thing and it was like when your ex is on the red carpet. And I was like, what? And I was like, oh, my God, they dated. Oh, I forgot Kim was there, wasn't she? Yeah. Do you see he has no more tattoos? Who? Pete Davidson got rid of all his tattoos from like head to toe.

No. Yeah. So he was like full body, like tattoos everywhere. And he went through tattoo or he got all his tattoos removed like professionally. And he doesn't have I don't think he has any tattoos anymore. He's on a billboard in Times Square and he's like in underwear or pants. And yeah, he's tattooless. Wow. That's how old is Pete? Do we know? Yeah. He's like 35, I think. Look, he's 31. What? Yeah. All right.

Oh, wow. I don't know. I would have thought 35 was spot on as a guess, huh? So Kim was really dating the younger lad. It says Pete Davidson, and this is older. This is from, oh no, January 31st, 2025. People Magazine, Pete Davidson spent $200,000 on year-long tattoo removal. He's doing really well since getting sober in September. Exclusive. That's the video. So $200,000 and it took...

a year long or it took a year to remove the tattoos um he got he's been sober since this past september or before that it says getting sober in september it doesn't specify what year but i would assume 2024 okay good for him oh yeah awesome it says in july of 2024 he checked himself in

so yeah september 2024 oh wow that's i'm really happy to hear that i really want to see him like have a really successful career i've always really liked him i love pete but yeah i i uh i was just shocked when i saw him on um when i saw his billboard i was like oh my god like he literally has no more tattoos that's wild that's crazy um yeah wow i know so uh

Remember when I guess, yeah, I'll talk about this. Remember when we hit our, however many reviews and I got my tattoo of my wedding ring. Oh my God. Yeah. And I got my, um, my butter. Was it a butterfly tattoo?

Yeah I think you got the I can't remember what you got The butterfly yeah Yes So I went to my I went to my first I went and got my ring finger appraised And I paid for my removal And it's gonna take Yeah it's gonna hurt really bad It was $1,200 It's really small So I actually see how we probably spent the $200,000

And yeah, they think it'll take 8 to 12 appointments, which like that's a lot. My tattoo is small. Like, you know, it's small. It's a circle. Yeah. And...

They think it'll take like nine months. You're kidding. Yeah, I can't wait for that journey. I believe the price because I saw a girl on TikTok getting a small tattoo removed and she said it would be $3,000. But that many appointments for a literal line that goes around your finger is crazy. It's crazy. But they said that each appointment is literally three minutes. So that's nice. And you haven't gotten one yet, right?

No, I haven't done it yet. So I like went for the consult. You have to pay and then you like book your first one and it's like at the end of March or something. I'll keep you posted when I do it. But yeah, it's time to get that bad boy removed. So yeah, let me know as it goes. Not just me. Let everyone know. I want to know the pain and if it gets...

I'm so curious of like the healing process, like because I would like to get potentially a tattoo removed one day, but I'm terrified because it's on my ribs. So I'm so curious to like the healing process, like how painful it actually is and if it gets less painful over time.

So he also said the closer it is to your heart, the less times you the less hard it is to get the ink out. So there's like less blood. So mine's on my hand, which you kind of can't get further. So he's like, that'll take a little longer because there's less blood flow to it. And so the more blood flow there is to it, the easier it is to remove the ink, which is like fascinating. Yeah.

Yeah. So and then also he said, so it'll happen and they do a laser around it. They numb it and then it's like seven seconds of just like he said, it hurts really bad. And then it will feel like a slight little like burn for three to four days and then it'll go to normal. But you have to space out the appointments six weeks because the recovery like your skin has to repair. I'm I just like can't believe not fun.

Okay, keep us posted because I'm very, very invested in this. Yeah, I will. I'll let you know. I know. I like wasn't really going to talk about it, but then I was like, oh yeah, we know that we got this. We've talked about this tattoo. So is this is a good place to talk about it and tell you. And then maybe after nine weeks, next thing you know, you have a diamond on your finger. I figured I probably couldn't get one before I got the other. Can you imagine like the last appointment Harris was just on his knee? Yeah.

It was good, though. I like went the day before Valentine's Day and then I was like, I didn't really even mean to get you this. I don't even like I was like, but randomly I did go sign up today. Wait, that would have been kind of a cute. I don't know if you said you did this, but that'd be kind of a cute Valentine's Day present. Like telling Harrison you were going to start getting it removed. I know. Really, what a fit. It just was like random timing that I was able to go, but it did line up. OK, should we get in today's topic?

Finally, yes. We really chatted there. I'm so excited for today's topic. We're doing breakup etiquette. Which just is so juicy when you think about it. Yeah, so...

I feel like for the way we'll break this down is we'll tell our own stories and then we're going to talk about our top breakup etiquette rules and then go over a few controversial breakup etiquette questions. And then we have some listener submissions about what their biggest breakup etiquette rule is and how their partner broke it with them, which they're really sad, but they're very, very interesting to listen to. Okay, who, what's...

Oops, sorry. Believe that. Is that his name? That's my reminder. I'm dead. Do you have a story when you or your partner broke a breakup etiquette rule?

Yeah, I thought about this and there was this boy. I wouldn't say I was like dating him, but we know I would say we had gone. I think if you go out to dinner a couple of times, you're probably dating him. And it was like early on and it might have been the summer. No, I was I think it was my freshman year. And like he asked me to go on another date and I very much just texted him back and

And was like I don't think this is working out like I do think we should just be friends like it's college and I just kind of like swept it under the rug but the more I thought about it the more I thought like that was messed up of me because it wasn't like we had been on one date it was like we had studied together we had been on a couple of dates like it was a little bit more than that and you know I was probably forever the girl that like broke it off via text message which is like not the coolest thing I could have done so I would say I broke it there yeah.

I feel like the breaking up over text messages probably, if I had to guess, one of the biggest breakup etiquette rules that people break. And so now I'm going to ask you this. I think I'm jumping ahead. But do you think a voice memo is okay or not? So I was thinking about that.

Because I feel like when you break up, we used to have two options or three options. It was like in-person, phone call, text. But now you can throw a voice memo in there. And I think that might be worse than a text message.

I think it's worse too because you know you can't text it so you voice note it which you know is going to disappear and it's like imagine you're reading the script and they're listening to it and you break up with them. That is way worse than a text message. And you can see the time and you're like, wow, you broke up with me in 15 seconds. Yeah.

And it's like, she sent a voice memo. I don't even have it anymore. I can't show it to you. Like, that is so messed up. And like, how do you respond? A voice memo back being like, I don't know what I would say. Yeah.

I would text back and be like, you didn't even have the audacity to like come see me in person. Like that sucks. That does. So yeah, I would say voice noting. If you voice note a breakup, that is the worst way to end it with somebody. No question. And then I think FaceTime is equally as bad because if you're going to call them, do them the favor of not having to hide their facial reactions. Like that's so messed up. Oh my God. Yeah.

I agree. I would take a phone call over FaceTime any day of the week. Oh my God. I can't even imagine. Okay. So I'll say this. I can stomach a phone call if it's not, if it's under, if it's been under three months, give or take, and you want to call and save everybody time. Like,

I can make a case for that. But if it's like a long-term relationship, I think it's got to be in person. It's going to suck. But I think you owe it that. I agree. I think that's actually a really great mile marker. Three months, if it's over that time frame, it needs to be in person. Other than that, I guess you can do a phone call, but never a text. Never. Okay. Actually, this is a little messed up. Can I say, I wouldn't mind getting a text because...

I would just rather know and then be like, oh, it's all good. I'm glad you told me now. Like, I don't – the phone call, I got to, like, respond –

I don't know. The text is kind of nice. You read it and you... I know that's messed up. I'm not for texting people. I don't think you should. But I do think if I was on the receiving end, like, oh, okay. I mean, yeah. I think you should. I mean, I think texting is fine if you've only gone on, like, a couple dates. And I have been on the receiving end. And I'm like, thank God. Because this would be so awkward if we've only been on, like, four dates. And then, like, the fifth date we go on and he's like, I don't like you. I'd be like, could you just save me the time and shop me a text? Yeah.

Honestly, this could be an email type energy. But if you're breaking someone's heart, that has to be in person, I think. So I actually can't believe I did this. Because I was old. I was 23 or 24. I can't remember. No, no, no. Was I 25? I think I was 23. No, sorry. I think I was 24. I was dating this guy and he was...

So nice. And I feel like we saw each other. We were dating for a significant amount of time. Like I had met his parents. We were not boyfriend girlfriend that we were just still in like the we were exclusive, I think, but we weren't boyfriend girlfriend. And I don't know what it was, but I think I got to the point where after I met his parents, I

I just realized, we're moving too fast. He's not my person. He was a lot older than me. I think he was like 30 or 31 at the time. So I knew he was looking for something more serious and I just wasn't. And I'm a very impulsive person. One day, I just immediately got that feeling where I was like,

I don't want to be with him anymore. I don't want to be with him. I don't want to see him. I don't want to be with him. I don't want to talk to him. So I sent him a text ending it, which is so not like me. I would never do that now. But I was like, it was a very long text. I like showing my friends and they're like, wow, that's a really well written text. So I was like, okay, we're good. So I sent it to him.

He, of course, called me out and he was like, that is so shitty for you to end it and things with me on a text. Can we please talk in person? And I did eventually go over there and we talked in person. And I will say he like pretty much just had me come over to yell at me, which I was kind of like, why am I here just for you to yell at me and pretty much list off the reasons why I'm a shitty person for texting you. I think it was just like an ego thing at that point.

Yeah. But he was like, you met my parents, this and that. And I was like, I know what I did was really shitty. I'm sorry, but like, I don't see this going forward. And I was like, I'm sorry about your parents, but also meeting your parents helped me realize that we were moving too fast and I didn't see a future with you. And like, we had to go through these things for me to realize that. And yeah, long story short, he was the last person I ended things with via text message. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. Honestly though. Okay. Here's the thing. If somebody ended it with me via text, I wouldn't invite them over because that is so awkward knowing they want to end it with you. And listen, if someone's going to do it via text message, like that's,

that sucks but you can't make them do it different yeah I think I truly think he just wanted his ego stroked and wanted to yell at me like I think he just wanted to see me face to face and be like you're a shitty person for doing that I don't think he had any intention of wanting to like win me back or anything like that yeah it was just like for him I guess okay but you brought up a good point like you guys were girlfriend boyfriend um

I think if it's not established yet, because I know I had said the three-month mark, but if it's not established that you're boyfriend and girlfriend, do you think it's okay to do a text or a call, a phone call? So now that I think of it, every guy that I dated, I believe in Minnesota and a few in New York, that we were not established was all via text. Yep. Yeah.

I was like thinking about it, but I'm like... It's so fun, I think, though. The only problem with it is...

They could screenshot it to their friends and be like, she ended up via text, but like, whatever. But like the, the reason why this, this, these people never became my boyfriend was because we dated for under a couple months and it was fine. Like anyone that was ever my boyfriend, like my boyfriend of five years in person, of course, um, my boyfriends in high school in, I've only had like four real boyfriends all in person, but all the other guys, it was like,

two three months max we weren't even boyfriend girlfriend we were just seeing each other i we shot each other texts i think it's fine i think it's just save everybody the time yeah let them digest it you know what i mean so yeah i think let's make that very clear if you guys are just an item i think a text is fine unless you guys are an item for like a year which to me you're like why are you guys still together why are you not boyfriend girlfriend by this point

Yeah, it's funny to think about what is right versus like what I would want. They are actually two very different things. Like you do not need to come over, right? I know now I'm like, hmm, all the guys that came before Pete were text message breakups. Yeah.

It's honestly easier. It's about five minutes round trip as opposed to two hours. But they were like seven dates max. Like what is that? Like three, two months. I get it. Yeah, totally. Do you want to go through our rules or what we had written down? Let's go. Yeah. Let's go through our top breakup etiquette rules. We can just like list them off and then we can, we can discuss like the controversial breakup etiquette questions. Love it. Well,

We did the first one. Don't break up over text. We already cleared that up. Okay. And then never say it's me, not you. That's a good one. I love that one. Never say we should stay friends. We've talked about this on the podcast. Like,

You're not saying friends with your exes. Just save everyone the trouble. Yeah. Don't even say that. I think if you see them out, like, of course, go over and say hi. But like, we do not need to pretend like we're going to like go get coffee. Right. And then no follow ups after like a.k.a. No contact. Cold turkey, which I know everyone has broken up with someone and then saw

Saw them like another time or two more times to continue the conversation. But it's like once you break up, you're broken up. There's nothing more you need to say. I totally agree. And I think if you linger it on, the only exception I see to that is like,

One person's not over it yet, so they're dragging it on. But most of the time, that is just time poorly spent. Yeah. When I broke up with my boyfriend of five years, we never spoke again after that day. And people were shocked by it. They were like, you guys never spoke again. I was like, no, there's nothing to talk about. We ended it. Now we move on with our lives or we just hold each other back.

Especially if it's the kind that you know this is like for the best, but it's hard. I think cutting it clean allows your brain to think about other things and you can get over it faster. I agree. Okay, so now let's go into our controversial breakup etiquette questions. Oof. Okay, question for you. Do you delete your pics together on social media after a breakup and if so, when? Okay. Yeah.

So what I think is if you had a long relationship with somebody, you delete 90% of them and you can like leave one or two just to show like you have had relationships. I think that's like a very normal thing for like a 30 year old to be like, yeah, I have had a girlfriend and like, yeah, we went to Cape Cod together. It's like, okay, that makes sense. But like, I don't think you need to keep all 20 of your photos. I think that's weird.

What do you think? I agree so much. Not to keep bringing him up, but he's literally the only other boyfriend I had besides Pete. I regret this. After my boyfriend and I of the five-year-old one broke up, I just like...

It was like my first like big breakup and I deleted all of our pictures like the next day. And I really regret that because it was a huge slap in his face. I was told by like a mutual friend like, oh my God, we broke up and she's deleting me out of her life. And also too, it wasn't like a healthy coping mechanism. Like I should have waited a bit and then like slowly deleted. It was just too much all at once. So I regret doing that.

Yeah, I get why you did it, but I do. I think now, you know, it's like you leave one or two and just like acknowledge the phase of life. But other than that, yeah, I think that you don't keep them all. I think that's weird. Yeah, I completely agree. Next one is, do you unfollow, mute, or block each other on social media? And if so, when? I think it depends how it ended. Okay.

I think a mute is probably really healthy because you don't see them. And I think if you need to do that, do it. I think an unfollow is like a lot right out of the gates, unless it ended really bad. Unfollow away, like own it and unfollow. Blocking if you're like super mad. Yeah, I think it depends on the situation. What do you think?

I once again completely agree. I feel like you just got to do it. You got to do what's best for you and protect your peace how you need to. Like if if I broke up with someone, I don't think I would unfollow them right away. But if someone broke up with me, I would I would probably unfollow pretty quickly because I'm like, I don't want to see you happy living your best life without me. Like that's just too hard.

What I do think is not healthy is like posting for them to see, like with them in mind. That's where I think you have to draw the line and like totally delete them out of your head. And if you're inclined to do that,

You might need to block them. It might be healthy for you. But if you're like, I'm going to post this cute selfie so they see after a breakup, it's like, no. Yes. Like, I've had to block people in the past for my own sanity because I would constantly, like, check in on them. And, like, even though I didn't follow them anymore, I would, like, look at their stories all the time and their tag pictures. And I was like, for my own mental health, I got to block them so I stop stalking them. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think that knowing that's really good and I think that's fine. Yeah. And hopefully they know it's like not about them. That was actually to help you. Exactly. Okay. So this next one I never thought of until we wrote it down, but I love it. It's do you plan breakups around events or holidays?

So the reason I put this on here was like, if you know you have a wedding in June and it's in, let's say Cabo and like you have your flights booked, are you just like waiting it out until after that? Or are you just like stepping up to the plate and saying, sorry. Oh God, that's a hard one with like, I could see if it was a wedding that was in the same city, but the fact that you have hotels and flights booked, I don't know. I've never been in that situation. What would you do?

I haven't either. I think like Europe's a more extreme example and like that really sucks. But I think it's a bad use of everyone's time and like dishonest if you just keep it for the trip and like you're miserable, you're not on your best. And so I do think you just go ahead and end it and it sucks. But hopefully that what goes around comes around. Yeah. With the guy I told my story about

I also broke up with him strategically because his... I think it was his cousin's wedding was coming up. And I didn't want it to be too close to the wedding. But that was a wedding that was in our city. So, like, no hotels were booked. Nothing. Like...

nothing was not too much money was being wasted. Obviously. I know. I understand. Like I was a guest in the, and they were planning on that, but I felt, I felt inappropriate to go to a wedding. If I like, didn't have feelings for him. I felt like it was just dishonest. Cause I'd be meeting more of his family too. I completely agree. I think it's the right thing to do. And like, even if your flight was like not refundable or something, it's just the right thing to do. Yeah. Um, who gets the mutual friends in a breakup? Um,

So where this sucks is if it's your friend and you introduced your partner to their guy and they got along really, really, really well. Yeah. Yeah.

That's where I think it gets tough. Hopefully everybody can be adults about it, but I do think the first friendship is the lasting friendship. Whoever was friends first, that's where the loyalty goes. What do you think? So with my boyfriend of five years, we had so many mixed friends because we went to college together. And it was essentially like all of the friends he introduced me to,

stayed with him obviously because they were his friends more longer than me all the guys kind of went with him and the girls went with me but there were a couple friends that were such good friends with both of us that like one of my good friends she even was like like

she's like I'm gonna still stay friends with him I've known him for as long as you he's been my best friend like do you care and I I was like honestly I don't like I want I don't want him to lose his best friends over this like this was my decision to end things I understood where I still I was understanding like where I stood and I was like I appreciate you being honest with me like you if you want to hang out with them hang out with them and she did like she's I think they're still close I I

I feel like Shaq went to his wedding maybe. I don't know. But yeah, I was like, you do you. Like, I'm not going to make you not be friends with him anymore.

Totally. And I think that that's a really good way to handle it. And I hope people aren't forced to like pick, but breakups suck. Like when you're, when your friends break up and things and like, it was kind of an intertwined friend group. Like that's, that's really tough to navigate and it can be awkward. And you know, then it comes up like, Oh, do you know their new girlfriend or something like that? I do hate that for people, but I do think a good, a good rule is like first to the table stays. I agree. Let's just do one more due to time.

And the last one is, is breakup sex acceptable? Like after, you know how people like break up and then they hook up? Like is one more hurrah? I think it's acceptable. I think it's fine. I don't know. Never done it. So I could see why you would, I guess. I have no feelings. I'm fine with that or not. What about you? I'm usually... Or I...

I mean, you do you, but I feel like out of every breakup I've, if I'm like the breakup-er, I don't find them physically attracted anymore. And then if I'm being broken up with, I'm too distraught to even think about that. So that's just like never been a thing for me to do. I'm either like repulsed or like so upset I want to punch them in the face. Totally agree. I think that's actually a really good point. So like no out of ego. Yes, literally. Literally.

Okay, now let's get into our submissions. And the submissions will be the breakup etiquette rule that they think was broken and then a story behind it. So do you want me to read the first one because it's shorter? Yeah. Okay, so the first listener submission, the breakup etiquette rule that they say is being broken is... Or sorry, their number one breakup etiquette rule is plan your breakup around specific life events, which is what we talked about. And her story is...

Even though there's never a good time to break up, there's always a better time than others. And you should be a decent human when choosing what time. My ex of over two years waited until I left for a week-long internship with an NHL team to completely ghost me and cheat on me with the girl he told me never to worry about.

This left me a mess the entire internship, causing me to blow my shot at a job with them. Then he actually broke up with me the night I got back, which also happened to be the night I started a new job. So yeah, there's never a good time, but staying for just two extra weeks after two years to avoid screwing up my future at a time would have been lit. Yeah, that's extremely shitty. This is where I think...

you should plan your breakups around and I think he could have easily waited two more weeks to end things with her I totally think so too it's just if I if I was her I would have made sure to kill that internship but I do agree because out of just like I do think like if you take that anger and like it can't be destroyed but it can be reconfigured

But that's so much easier said than done. And I completely agree. That was so messed up of him. And I feel really bad for her. And I totally agree with her. Yeah. Because like he knew what he was doing and he knew that she would be distraught during this internship. So it was very selfish of him. Yeah. He took the easier route. He took the less confrontational and easier route. It's lousy. I agree. Yeah. Okay. Well, we're not very good at this one, but never text a breakup.

always in person or at the very least over a phone call. Last year, I shared with you all how my boyfriend's sister-in-law got upset over an Instagram post of us claiming I was forcing the relationship and that he was unhappy. I remember this. I do too. He promised to talk to her when he returned from his trip.

Before their meeting, I told him I trusted him and he assured me he'd confront her about crossing a line and tell her to address him directly instead of texting me. After a five-hour meeting with her, all he texted me was that he felt unwell and would see me in the morning. The next morning, he told me she had concerns but that he disagreed with her in, quote, solution of us breaking up. He kissed me goodbye and we discussed it more over fajitas for dinner and he left for work.

Four hours later, he sent me a text saying he was done claiming I had convinced him to stay in the relationship, even though he didn't want to. He then blocked my calls and texts, leaving me shattered. The next day, his sister-in-law texted me saying she was glad it was over and that I'd eventually thank her for convincing me to break for convincing him to break up with me. Wow. That's wild. Like, you know what? If that doesn't give you peace with the way it was handled, then I don't know what will.

Also, you dodged blood. Having a sister like that or having a soon-to-be sister-in-law like that, no thank you. They're doing it all over text? Yeah.

But also... They're in cahoots. She's going to have a hard time with like... You really dodged a bullet. Like you're going to find somebody that has a nicer sister, etc. And like that is a bunch of BS. Yeah. I feel for her and the fact that they dated for a long time and it was a text. But yeah. Ew. Run from that family. Yeah, I feel really sorry for her because I know that like that was traumatic and it's obviously been causing problems the whole time. But like the true colors shined and...

Luckily they shine now and not later. Exactly. Okay. And that was our breakup etiquette topic. There we go. And we've already done our recs. So we're like...

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