Comparing yourself to others, 30th birthday trips & we’re starting a tv show club!!
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dead. I have no idea. It scared me. Like, I can't imagine how you feel being a mother, but I was anxious watching it the entire time where I was like wanting to fast forward because I'm like, I don't want to see what happens. When you're in your early 20s, remember how controversial that is when people are hanging out with their boyfriends instead of the girls? Just because someone is at a certain place in life that you think you need to be doesn't mean it's like the correct order for you.

You do get things when you're ready. Like, I do think that the universe, they've got our back like that if you believe it does. Welcome back to another episode of Mean Girl Pod. How is it going? I realize we are nail twins again. Yes! Pink. It's...

It's very happy, but I'll tell you this. I'm going to Aspen this weekend where it's going to be like eight degrees and my pink is just like not the vibe. Did you, okay, question for you about that. But first, did you find a dress? No, all of my dresses, you would never do this, but all of my dresses arrived today. Wait, when's your flight? Okay.

Tomorrow morning. Alex! I know. And it's like, I need to even check if they're being delivered. So I need three nights of outfits. And I have one. I'm just like wearing stuff I had. And then the other two nights, like Aspen, like formal, I had to order it. I don't have it. So the video you posted on TikTok, the one I commented on, I saw a comment saying that you're not supposed to wear red to a wedding. And I just found that out. Like, I don't know.

And literally when I was in Miami, my girlfriend was like, well, you can't wear red to a wedding. And I'm like, what? Yeah. Why? Why is that? I never went back and looked at what the reasoning was. I think it's supposed to mean that you have been like a past lover of the groom, which I could totally be making up in my head. But I think it's supposed to be like the scarlet letter, like the red A. I think that's what she said.

Do you know why I thought I was thinking you don't wear red because it's like a bold color and it could be perceived like upstaging the bride. That's what I, but also so is pink and all those colors. But we're getting a nod from Jules that yes, it's because it's like, it's like a scarlet letter. Which is crazy because red looks like, that's just like, to me, if I think black tie, I think you're wearing black or red.

I mean, 100%. Like, I think of, I don't think I've ever worn red to a wedding. I'm not typically drawn to red. I just know, I just, when it comes to weddings, I stay away from light pinks, silvers, anything that could be close to white. But I've never thought about staying away from red. No, never. Also, I was crying this morning at your autocorrected date's name. Oh my God.

I've got to check it every time. Titties. What were you singing to her? You were like, I love you. I was like, tears were coming out of my eyes. She probably has no idea. No. And I, I like, I just need to either call her Tate or I need to go back in and check the text. I was like, only Alex would just not check that. Yeah. Dang. I know it's a terrible autocorrect. Um,

Tell us about your monster. So today I'm back on the white monster ultra train because last week I had it and I mean, I forgot how much I love it. It is so good. I will say though, yesterday I was at the store and these two like high school kids were buying the blue monster and I was like, I do miss that blue Hawaiian. She is good. You love them both. It's a good problem to have. You know what's wild? So I live...

near a high school and on lunch they allow the kids to just leave and go get lunch and some of these kids are like 12 oh wow that's gotta be a New York thing because like my height because they're walking they're on foot and so I guess it's

One, maybe they're strapped for space, but two, like you don't have to drive to go anywhere. You just like blew my mind. I was walking past a pizza shop and these three boys came out and I swear to God, they were probably between the ages of like 12 and 15 with their lunch boxes. And the other kid had a slice of pizza in his hand. And I was like, I wasn't allowed at our school. We couldn't leave for lunch until we were seniors. Same. We like, and it was very strict. Yeah.

I'm just like, what happens? Like, I was just like, wait, where's your superior? Why are you guys allowed to just leave?

That's probably why New York kids grow up so fast. I'd be like, that's the one place where these kids are well above their years as compared to the rest of... Also the trust. I wouldn't... I mean, I would because I'm a horrible rule follower. But I know so many people who'd be like, peace out. I'm not going back to school. No question. And it would be really hard to go back to school. Because you'd just be like, it's a pretty day. Let's go run around the city. Or they would do bad things like...

drugs and alcohol and I don't trust kids.

Yeah, I mean, a nice weathered Friday afternoon, you'd really be hard-pressed to get me to go back. Right? Yeah, I was just shocked. I was like, only in New York you see these things. You live by a high school? Is that what you said? It's either a high school or a middle school of some sort. I've never seen a kid too old there. So I would say maybe more of a middle school I live next to. That's crazy if middle schoolers can leave. Right? Right.

It's, I mean, just the fact that there's like a middle school, like in the city where I live is just, I still never understand that. I don't either. It's a totally different mindset. So different than what we're used to. Yeah. I, I'm dying to, well, we'll do our roses and our thorns, but I'm dying to hear about your Napa trip that you finally planned. Okay. So I moved that to my rose because I saw your, your note and I was like, duh, like I forgot to put that as my rose because I,

I had written my rose before we booked it. Like, we just booked it yesterday or two days ago. Yeah. But I'm finally going to Napa and Sonoma for my 30th birthday. Pete and I are going, and I am...

So excited. It is so well-deserved. And if this wasn't what you were doing on your 30th birthday, I'd be like, what are we doing? So what's the plan? Which one, Napa or Sonoma or both? So we are staying in Napa, but I told Pete I really want to at least go –

to Sonoma for one day. So we get in on a Thursday, we'll do Napa that day. And then I said, let's do Sonoma Friday and then Napa Saturday. Because I know everyone is saying Sonoma, Sonoma, Sonoma, but I know I'm more of a Napa girl because I, from what people have said, they're like, Sonoma is more like low key, casual, Napa is more high end. And I'm like, I am a high end girly. I love that like bougie-esque thing.

And I'm like, that's what appeals to me with wine. So I'm like, I'm an apple girl. Yeah, you're going to love it. So do you have your vineyards planned or yet or no? So for my 30th, I told Pete that I just want him to plan it. So he has taken over the planning and he's slowly booking things. Even if I recommend something, he's like, no, no, no. I already got it figured out. I'm good. So he's taking care of that. Oh, I love that.

I, but, but we do have, have you been to Napa and Sonoma? Yep. Have you, did you prefer Napa or Sonoma? I love Napa. I love, love, love Napa. Did you like stay in Napa? I've stayed in Napa twice and Yonville once. Oh, I want to go to, Yonville's on my list. I would love to go there. If you could get into French Laundry. So we're going to, have you heard of Mustards? Yes. He just booked that today. Yes.

That's going to be so good. That's the spot. That's in Yonkville, right? Yeah, that's in Yonkville. Because I told him I was like French laundry would be like legit. But I also know that we might go and be like, okay, the experience was cool, but we just spent like so much money for like a very not necessary dinner.

But I was like, we got to go to Mustard's because the food looks incredible. You got to go. Oh my gosh. You're going to have so much fun. Like you're going to have so much fun. Oh, I forgot that you had gone so many times. Yeah. I just, I, I love, I honestly, I love Napa. I just am not like a massive wine girl.

Like, I don't love the... Like, you know me. I'll just order... I would typically let you order it, actually. So, wine tasting to me is... It's ironic that for as little as I know about it, I have gone so many times. Did you go when you lived in...

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Once while I lived in California, once when I was in Oklahoma. Yeah, yeah. So I did go. I did go when I lived in California. Harrison, though, this is what's funny about it. Like Napa, when he lived in San Francisco, Napa was like his Hamptons. Yes. Like they would just drive out there all the time. Are you driving from the airport? So we need to figure that out. Why? Is it bad to?

No, you should do it. You should drive if it makes sense. And when you map it, you got to take... They're almost the same distance, but do the one with the Golden State Bridge. Like, it is beautiful. It was such a beautiful drive. Okay, so that was my thorn, was that...

Tickets to get to Napa and Sonoma, obviously like... Okay, let me rephrase this. Delta tickets to get to Napa and Sonoma are out of this world. I mean like $900. Most are layovers. They don't have direct flights to Oakland or Sacramento. They do to San Francisco, but that's like their high season because we're going in June. So we have to fly United because they're like $400. And I'm just like...

Come on, Delta. What's this companion ticket, though? Okay. So I don't know if I forgot. You're American, right? You're American Airline, girly. Yes. Do you guys get companion tickets if you hit status or if you have a car where you get like it's almost like BOGO, like buy one, get one?

No.

I didn't realize all the stipulations that came with it. Like only specific flights, certain classes, X, Y, Z. So I was looking. The only flights that they offer companion-wise to San Francisco are red eyes. And I'm like, I'm not taking a red-eyed for Pete to get like a cheaper flight. So it's the least sought-after flights. Yes. Like going to Minneapolis.

easy peasy to get a companion ticket, but anywhere good. You can't do multi-city. You can't do anything more than Maine or lower than Maine. It has to be a certain time of day. I'm just like, Delta, you are so rich. Can you just throw us a bone? No kidding. Stuff like this drives me crazy because they promote it and then below it, there's this asterisk, right? And it's like certain exclusions and limitations apply. Yeah.

And this just happened because we're going to talk about a show later and I don't have Hulu. So I had to get Hulu this morning and I get like the basic package, you know, and it's like, it should be good. And then I go to watch the one show that we want to watch and it's like locked. And so I got to like, I'm like, I have to go back and upgrade just to watch this one show. But it told me I would get all my shows, but you don't actually get all the shows. And it's just like, I'm just like, come on, you guys, they're just putting us through this hamster wheel. And also like,

I have never booked a flight where I'm like, well, I shouldn't say never. Most times when I book a flight, I'm not like any day of any day or time of day works for me. Like I don't have like no one has that flexibility. But so when you book a companion ticket, it's like, OK, I guess cheaper flight or more PTO because Pete goes in the office. So he's like, I couldn't do a red eye even if I wanted to, because I'd have to take PTO on Monday then. So he's like, the average person can't even enjoy it.

What was your other problem with Delta recently that you stopped? You had a problem with Delta like a month ago and you were going to stop going to a lounge or they were charging or something. They got rid of the Delta lounge for anyone that isn't a reserve card member or a certain status. You have to be like Diamond, which is...

like as high as it is or fly Delta one or be a reserve because like before I could go in and pay like $50, but now you have to pay like an annual fee, which I think is close to $800. And I'm like, I was like, I'm not paying any hundred, $800.

That's wild. Yeah. Wild, these airlines, man. And they just changed how you get status, too. Like, it's just, I love Delta, but they're really frustrating. They're making it hard to love, aren't they? Yes. So I will be flying United, I guess. But we'll fly into San Francisco then so we can see. You said the Golden Gate Bridge? Yes, you got it. When you map it, though, like, pay attention to which route you take because it was beautiful. Beautiful.

Oh, I mean, my brother lives in San Francisco and I've seen the bridge once and it was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. It's insane. Yeah, it was so fun to drive. It was a fast drive and then the drive was, if you take that route, it was a lot of farmland and a lot of vineyards and it's really pretty. It's like worth the drive. It's a great drive. I love that. I always forget that Harrison lived in San Francisco. Was it before LA? I think it was...

I mean, yes, it was before L.A. I don't know if he went to San Francisco, Hong Kong or Hong Kong, San Francisco. I don't know. But he did live there. He loved it. He absolutely loved it. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, my brother doesn't live in San Francisco proper, but like I don't see him leaving anytime soon. So.

Is he still dating his girlfriend from Christmas? Yes. They're going very strong and they seem really happy together. So I'm excited for him and her. And will you see them when you go? No, because our trip is so...

like, scheduled where we pretty much land Thursday, go right to Napa, and then our flight will be leaving Sunday. So, I mean, they could come up and, like, join us, which would be fun, but we don't have time to, like, dilly-dally. I love this. I'm all for, like, just because we're going where somebody does not mean we have to see them. Probably won't even tell them. Like, we've got a plan.

Honestly, I love that. That's refreshing. Okay, cool. So no, I'm not going to see him. We're busy. Yep. You know me. I have an agenda and I follow that agenda to a T. No, I do know that. That's why I was wondering if we were going to see him or not because I figured it would be booked. Yeah, no. Sorry, Colton. Okay, what are your roses and thorns? My rose is we're going to have a block party with our neighbors, but it's going to be like a crawfish boil party.

And Harrison's never been to a crawfish boil. And we used to do this in Oklahoma. My uncle would do them. And I love a crawfish boil. And it feels very summer. It feels very Texas. It feels very block party, very neighbor. So I'm super excited about it. Have you ever been to a crawfish boil? I was going to say, I don't think most people have. I have not. No.

I got Tate like a little outfit for it. Like, I'm so excited about this crawfish. But it feels very community. Whose idea was the crawfish? Because when I picture a Texas block party, I thought you were going to say like a barbecue.

It's our neighbor's idea. Like he, he's a ranch guy. Like he's just, I mean, you know, and so he's like, let's a, it was his idea to have the block party. And then B he texted and he's like, my friend's coming. He's going to do crawfish. And I was like, that is fabulous. And so it's BYOB. And then, um, and then everybody brings something fun or tasty. So everyone like will bring a little something. I don't know what I'll take probably a dessert. And then, yeah, I think it'll be great.

I mean, I know we talked about it last time and I don't want to persuade you, but like this is huge for your like loving your neighbor and like your community you live in. Okay. So the update is there's a house directly behind me. That's it. We would have to live somewhere for like 15 days like we and we haven't seen the inside yet. I've only seen photos. But from what I can tell, I really love that house.

So that's a promising new lead But we don't know like a lot about it yet It's off market but it's coming to market It's literally behind us Do you know them? Like the people who live there?

No, but our neighbors know the realtor that's getting it. Oh. Yeah. So it's like a little under the table deal. So that would be, I don't know, just we'll see. But one thing that we've been really thinking about a lot is like, I mean, like we love our location. So, and listen, I think the neighbor is doing the block party, you know, as like a little reminder of how nice our area is. Yeah.

Wasn't this nice? So it's, yeah, I'm with you though. Like what you said really stuck with me because like I still know my neighbors from when I grew up. Yeah. I was telling Pete that I was like, cause he asked me, he's like, does Alex, do Alex and Harrison have an update? And I was like, no, but we were talking about neighbors and he was like, let me tell you, that is so important because every place I've ever lived, he's like the, my best friends were my neighbors. Every place I've grown up since I don't like my neighbors. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, like I love across the street beside us, the other side of us, diagonal from us and down the street. Like I love five people on this just block.

And being the same ages with kids the same ages, it's like so perfect. I agree. So I do think location will end up trumping like the house. Love that. When is the block party? It's next week. Okay, because you have Aspen. Okay, quick question about Aspen. Is Tate going? Yes. Okay. I just, I know it's such a pain to get to Aspen. Like...

Well, it is, except we don't have a lot of direct flights out of Austin, but we do have one to Aspen. What? So we actually have a, we've had a lot of painful flying times out of Austin because we've connected a lot of places, like Orange County, right? I had to go, we had to fly to LA, then drive down.

Because there was no directs. But this will actually be... If it doesn't snow, it should be a fine travel day. Yeah, because I remember when we went, it was like so common for your flight from...

Was it Denver to Aspen to get canceled? Was that where the... That's the main, that's the biggest problem. It's like a lottery. It's like 50-50 chance that you might make it or not. Right, exactly. And so the fact that we're not flying Denver to Aspen is huge. So our odds are, I'm feeling good about it. So it should be easy. That's cool. I love that there's a direct flight, which is also so random, but love that.

So random. We don't have a direct flight to Oklahoma City. We have a seasonal direct flight to Vancouver, but we have one to Tulsa. So like what? Oh my God. I know. And then my thorn, it's not really a thorn because it's, well, it is what you make it. But it's my breastfeeding update is that I'm going to keep going and I'm not going to like kill myself with it, right? Like when we go to this wedding, right?

We've got a girl that's going to watch Tate like while we're gone. And usually I would come back and I would like pump or feed her. We're not going to do that anymore. Like we'll combo feed or something. Or maybe my supply will be up. Like we'll just see what happens. But I am going to keep going for the time being because I'm at like a pretty good place with it. I've had like a lot of ups and downs, but mentally right now I'm good. And so for the time being, we're going to proceed. Yeah, because your body just like will on its own stop producing milk, right? Yeah.

Some, yeah, some people's do, or if you hit your goal, then you can wean off yourself. But with that comes like a hormone dip a lot of times. Um, and so I wouldn't even do it this week anyways, with this trip coming up, but I, I would prefer my body to, to dry up naturally because I don't want to go through like another hormone shift. Yeah. Well now Tate had her first solid food.

Yes. Okay. I thought, though, I was like, okay, now that she's eating, she will obviously we can drop a bottle. No. We, like, she, you should just experience this because...

You don't just like put the mashed up sweet potato in her mouth and she swallows it. Like she's never even experienced this texture. She doesn't know how to swallow it. Like we're not getting nutrients from the food yet. Eventually in like three to six months we will. But for right now it just kind of sits on her tongue. She laughs like she doesn't, we're not like eating it. Yeah.

dead. So do you like will you have you given her anything else or is it just sweet potatoes right now? Yesterday I gave her banana and then last night I gave her oh what was that? There's like this little thing called little spoon that we gave her. Oh it was carrots. Okay. Bright pink

Not pink, purple. Why? Which carrot? Root carrots? Oh, yeah. I've seen a purple carrot. Yeah. Yeah. So we had that last night. I mean, it gets everywhere. It's adorable. It's so cute. But it's not like a meal. It doesn't count as like a bottle. Oh, dad. Did you guys like have a little party for her half birthday? Yeah, we just like the neighbors came over and we had like a try solid foods for the first time. And it was really cute.

I love that. Oh my God. I can't believe she's already six months. Me either. I cannot. Time for baby two. No, I'm just kidding. Time for another one. I still, so I don't even know if I've updated this, but like I still haven't had a period and some people have, but like there's been days where I'll have like really bad cramps and I'll be like, okay, it's coming. But like,

I still haven't had one. I think though it's because I'm still breastfeeding pumping, but there's no correlation. Like some people are pumping and they have a period. Some people don't get a period for nine months, but yeah, I don't, I haven't had one yet. Also it is normal. Like some people just, it like takes nine months. Some people's can take a year. Yeah. Like it's just everybody, like not everybody, but like every human body is different like in this regard. And so I

It's definitely not abnormal that I haven't had one yet. But yeah, I just haven't had one. Interesting. Yeah, it's... I've said this so many times, but it's just incredible how little I know about the birth, pre and postpartum, as a woman, like how little they teach you. I'm like, oh, I assumed you got your period the next day. I know. And some people do. Some people get it like month one, like as normal. But...

But yeah, no period. So which I'm not mad about yet. Yeah. I mean, I'll take it. I was going to say you're like, besides if you did want to have a kid, like you're very lucky to not deal with that on a regular basis.

I just haven't in so long either. You know, like I don't remember having to put tampons in a purse. Like that's been, it's been over a year, you know, and like, I don't miss it. Oh, I forgot. Cause you don't, you don't get one when you've had, when you're pregnant. So yeah, it has been. Yeah. So no, no love lost there.

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So I... Okay, so we're watching Good American Family. Yes. Can we talk about this right now? Yeah, sure. With Ellen Pompeo. Who... I didn't even watch Grey's Anatomy and I'm just like... She... What's the girl's name? Meredith Grey. Yes. That... Okay, she is Meredith Grey. But like, she's doing a phenomenal job in this role. She's doing like so good. I...

So what we wanted to do with our listeners is we wanted to watch a show with you guys. So every week Alex and I are going to watch Good American Family because it's an episodic. So every Wednesday a new episode will come out and we want you guys to watch it with us so we can discuss it on the podcast. Kind of like a book club, but like a TV show club.

Yes, and I'm going to hate this year's book. What did you think? So I want to do more research on how true the story is because I know it's true, but I want to know to what degree because it scared me. Like, I can't imagine how you feel being a mother, but I was anxious watching it the entire time where I was, like, wanting to fast forward because I'm like, I don't want to see what happens. I don't want to see what happens.

Same. I felt the same way. So I Googled it. I was like starting to Google it. But then all I read was that it is based on a true story. I didn't, I don't know what happens. Like, I don't know if somebody ends up dead. I have no idea what, don't tell me. No, I don't know. I'm just trying to think. So in the beginning of the first episode, they, it's like fast forward to, I think,

It's 2019, but then I forgot how far. Nine years. They go back to 2010. So I think it's apparent that no one has died because the three boys are there. She mentions the dad's name. She's there. Everything seems good. But then she blames the dad. So it's almost like my prediction is that the daughter that they adopted and the dad become really close and they kind of...

form an alliance against the three boys and the mom. Like, I feel like she might pin the dad against the mom and the other three boys. And then she says she tried to kill me. Yeah. The last scene, I won't say too much, but that was terrifying. I was like, was that a dream or was that real? I know. And when she was holding the knife, like,

Oh, this is, it is, I just, the fact that it's based on a true story is wild. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's, did you ever watch the, I think it's called The Orphan, a scary movie growing up? No. So it was the same, the same storyline. I actually think that my...

be based off a true story. But so in Good American Family, the daughter that they adopt has dwarfism. I can't say that word correctly. Dwarfism.

So she is older but will always appear and look younger. And in the movie The Orphan, they adopt this girl. They don't know she has dwarfism, but they adopt her. And they find out later on that she's actually a grown adult pretending to be a child because she has dwarfism. And I think that's the premise of this show as well, where this girl is actually a lot older than she is, but she's pretending to be a younger girl.

Okay, that makes so much sense. And I knew she had dwarfism and I heard them talk about it, but they were saying she's actually in seventh grade? Yeah, like she's older than she's saying she is. Yeah, okay, that's such a good prediction. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah.

Yeah, you should watch. I mean, actually don't because if this show makes you anxious, that movie terrified me. I watched it as a very young person, but it was very scary. Yeah, I...

Okay, now I get it. Okay, so she could be 25. Yeah, I think what happens is she ends up going to the doctor and maybe her dental records show her real age, but more comes out. And I don't know exactly how much is what I'm assuming and what I've read and how much is from the movie, but I think that's what happens. Because remember how she didn't want to take a bath?

Yes. I think it was because I would assume the mom might be like, you're older than you seem to be like when they when she undresses and gets in the bath.

Wow. So do you think she has a crush on the dad? Oh, I think that she like... I don't want to say he falls in love with her, but I think he almost does. And that's why he picks her side over the mom and the boys. Wow. And this is wild. Yeah. Okay. Because one thing that is interesting, though, when the cops do come, they say...

the boys are like, should we call dad? So it's like, they still think like there's some sort of unity still happening, but, but then she says, don't call dad. He did it to me. Call Grammy. Yeah. That's yeah. Yeah. Wow. Oh my God. Okay. That's really, I didn't know all this. Yeah. It's, it's crazy. I, I feel like,

this show is going to be like a really, really good one. Like it's one of those shows too that I am itching for the next episode. Like I'm excited for the next episode.

But also scared Is the next episode not out? The next one is So what Hulu does is they'll release the first two To get people like excited And then it will start coming out every Wednesday Yeah I'm No I'm excited for it Like I'm not I'm excited for it I am and I'm not Now I'm actually more excited for it though Now that you explained some things I just really wasn't catching She could be older Yeah

And like that's where I'm I need to like recheck my facts because I don't know if I'm like getting it mixed up with the movie The Orphan or this is like what I've read about this show. But I think it is about this show from based off of the previews and stuff, too.

Juicy. Okay. Okay, cool. It's only eight episodes, so I feel like it will move fast, which I love. Yeah, yeah. We could do it. Yeah, we could totally. Okay. It will move fast, but I was literally in fight or flight mode the whole entire time. I was too. I was like...

I could like feel myself like sweating and like I got like just like uncomfortable and itchy and I was like, I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm very uncomfortable. I do. I totally agree. I was like, oh my gosh, I couldn't take my eyes off the screen though. And then what what else is I love these short series where they finish the story.

Okay, I was just going to say that. I don't know how we used to do TV shows that were 23 episodes long. Like a season. It's wild. Yeah, that is... You just told me about one. Oh, wasn't... What's the Texas football show? Oh, fine.

Friday Night Lights. Friday Night Lights. Yeah, those seasons are so long. There was this girl on TikTok recommending shows, and she's like, this show only has one season because then it got canceled, but don't worry, there's 24 episodes, so it'll keep you company. And I'm like, that's like four seasons to today's shows. Oh, yeah. I'm all in on this short, sweet finish it. But it's crazy it'll take us eight weeks. I love a limited series because...

I get bored by the second seats. I'm usually over a show, especially by the third. I'm like, okay, I'm good. Is White Lotus getting better or what was the update there? Okay, so speaking of White Lotus, Pete wants everyone to know that he likes the show and that I can't drag his name when I make my opinions. Oh.

Respect. You know, I'm really glad he cleared that up because I did think you both hated it. He was like, he was like, Jordan, you lied. And I was like, what did I lie about? He's like, you told everyone I didn't like the White Lotus. I liked the White Lotus. And I was like, sorry. He was like, make sure that you keep my name out of your mouth and you make your strong opinion. And I was like, okay. Yeah.

Okay, I will clear it up. Okay, so for the, let's set the record straight. Pete likes it. You don't. Your house divided. I still am like, no. I watched the four, every episode since I've stated that I don't like it. Pete's like, don't worry. This episode's going to be great. People, my coworker said that she was laughing hysterically and couldn't stop. And the episode ended and I was like, where were our laughs? You didn't laugh. I didn't laugh. This wasn't funny. Yeah.

You could have dropped a pin in this room. Okay, so you just hate this. We're on episode four? Yeah. I mean, there's still time. There's 10 episodes, I think. So there's still time. But I'm like, season one and two were insanely good, in my opinion. So this is just, okay. But does Pete like this season as much as previous ones? I think so. Yeah, he seems to be very into it. And I'm just like, whatever. So he's really enjoying it. Yeah, and he told me that

The internet loves it too. And he doesn't know what I was talking about when I said that the internet doesn't like it. Because I was like, we're on different sides of the internet. Because mine is all like boring and his must be entertained. Ah, so confirmation bias is happening. The internet knows what, okay. Okay.

Interesting. All right. Well, maybe some of our listeners love it too and just know you're with Pete. Pete's with you. But I'll still watch it. I'm going to finish it through. I feel like I owe that much to this show. You do. And if he's watching it anyways, it's like, okay. It's something to look forward to on Monday because obviously I don't watch it Sunday night because it comes out at 9. So it does make a good thing to look forward to Monday. It's important to have something fun on a Monday. So I'm with you.

But I'm going to get Pete into this Good American Family show because I feel like he'll like it. So...

I mean, it's going to be juicy. Is Harrison watching it or just you? Well, no, but I am going to get him to watch it, I think. Yeah, because now you can watch episode two for next week, but you can watch it whenever because it's already on Hulu. Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Okay, now I'm thinking about this. She's older. Okay, now my wheels are turning a bit, but it's still spooky. Oh, yeah. I'm excited, though.

Should we get into today's episode? Yeah, let's do it. Today's topic. We are in the episode. Welcome back to another episode of Mean Girl Pod. Take it from the top. I'm losing my mind. No, I know what you mean, though. The topic. Feeling left behind.

Um, so we had a girl DM us last week that sparked this topic and her DM said, can we talk on Mean Girl about being the last in a friend group to get engaged slash try for babies and whatnot? Like, I feel like my moments won't be as big because they'll be busy, you know? And after Alex and I discussed that, we thought it would be a good or it would be a good time to have a conversation about like feeling left behind in life, how you feel like you should follow specific patterns.

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And so we broke it down into sections. So we have finances, babies, relationships slash marriage and careers and social media that we can like talk through. Yeah. And yeah, I think that the umbrella topic here though really is like you don't feel left behind if you're not comparing to something, right? A thousand percent.

And I feel like all of these categories, people do compare. You compare who can afford what, who already has kids, who's married, you know, career-wise is a big one. And then on social media, like social media is obviously the largest place where you can compare because everybody's life is just on display. And glamorized. And you're only showing the best, not the worst. So you're assuming that the people around you and your peers are just living their best life because that's all they're showing, of course.

Totally. So do you have an example of when you did feel like left behind? Yeah. So I know I spoke about leaving Minnesota during our episode of feeling stuck, but I also felt very left behind. And that's another reason why I wanted to move to New York. And also I thought that it would just diminish or diminish that feeling because in New

Minnesota, all my friends were in serious relationships, engaged or married, or some of them were having kids. And I just felt like I was being left behind by a lot of them because obviously when you get into relationships, you start hanging out with your partner more than your friends, which is so normal. But when all of your friends are in relationships, it's

you start to feel like you don't have anyone. And that's how I felt like my weekends turned into a lot of solo time and a lot of trying to like figure out what I could do because all my friends were just kind of like moving on with their lives and getting families and partners. And I just, I did feel like I was just being left behind. Yeah. I think that that's a very valid thing that a lot of people feel.

Yeah. And I know now being in and when I moved to New York, that definitely went away. And I've been so lucky to to get a boyfriend around the same time as my friends. But I have friends who are like now we kind of feel like we're being left behind because we're the only single ones in New York. Like usually a lot of it has to do from what I've seen is the relationship thing where people feel like they're just being left behind that way.

Totally. I think in the 20s especially. I think that relationships is the number one thing in the 20s. So my example of the feeling left behind was whenever I got divorced. Like I restarted. Right. And so and like I didn't have kids and whatever.

A lot of my friends had kids earlier than I did. And so that was like an area where I never really felt left behind though with the kids actually. I will say though it was when I restarted, you know? Yeah. Like I restarted my timeline. And so then you do think like, whoa, I just started this from ground like scratch, ground zero. And obviously everything worked out. But that was an example where I was like worried. I was like, okay, well, this is an interesting time to restart. But...

I don't think you can let that hold you back from doing things. But one thing that I do think is I was thinking about because I know a lot of our listeners are in their 20s. And my favorite piece of advice that I got from Jennifer Welch, she was the interior design boss, and it has to do around career.

And so she was saying how people will get these jobs in their early twenties and they'll be, if, if we're on like a football field, right, they'll be on the 50 yard line when they're 22. But that doesn't necessarily, just because they're ahead then doesn't mean they finished the race at 30. Like just, just because where you are right when you graduate in terms of career wise, if your friends have a great finance job right out of college, um,

doesn't mean when everyone's 30 that they still have the best job. Like people can plateau like you never know. And so don't compare yourself to people around that age. Like when you were that age, like I don't know if you remember how it was. I think you were probably doing corporate insurance. And so, but like look where you're going to land at 30, right? But it's like when you're that age, it's really hard to see.

Like I had a cool job because I was like working for her, but some of my other friends were making so much money and they had moved cities and all these things. But then you, you fast forward to 30 and you see, okay, that's where I started. This is where I landed. And I think that just because you have a good job at 22 doesn't mean you necessarily have a good job at 30, 35, 40. I love that so much. And I also like, I feel like my biggest comparison comes with our career in social media because I,

um sometimes you'll see girls who are like 22 gain like Alex or for example she was she's like 23 multi-millionaire like billionaire who knows she's so wealthy or you you see a girl join social media and in like a year she's gotten to like a couple million followers and you're just like

Why can't that be me when I've been doing it this long? And it's so hard. But what you said is so true where you don't know exactly where you'll land and you can't compare yourself. And something that helps that is looking up to people that you admire who are in a similar trajectory as you. Like I remember I've talked about this on the podcast before, but career

Girls Gotta Eat was my favorite podcast growing up and I loved them. And they didn't start until they were in their 30s. Like they didn't meet and start. And now they're one of the biggest female podcasts out there. But if they were me right now, they wouldn't even have been started yet. Oh, that's actually crazy. I didn't know that. Yeah. I've heard you say that, but I never thought about it in terms of like right now. Yeah. So I feel like we...

I tend to feel very stuck in life when I compare myself to others, but I always try to take a step back and remind myself that there is no timeline. Everything will happen how it's supposed to happen. And I think what you said and what Jennifer told you is so true. Like,

Like everyone's path is so here there, but like you just, just cause someone is at a certain place in life that you think you need to be, it doesn't mean it's like the correct order for you. No. And when you, when you said you were talking about how everyone had a boyfriend and like when you get a boyfriend, you start hanging out with them a lot more. And that sentence sparked, like it took me back to my 20s.

Because when you're in your early 20s, remember how controversial that is when people are hanging out with their boyfriends instead of the girls? Yeah. And I remember it seemed like the biggest thing on the planet. She was hanging out with her boyfriend on a Friday night over going out with the girls. Yeah. And then slowly we all grow up and we mature and we're like, it actually becomes the opposite where it's like,

So expect me to be with him. Okay. And then on and off, like the outlier time is going to be me going out with the girls, right? Flip flops. And right. And then your, your mentality flip flops. And I was thinking about the twenties and I was like, whoa, navigating the twenties was like so wild because I don't know for sure, but I would bet that most of your change will happen in your twenties. Like, cause you go from college always being,

Like colleges is an, of course you're living on your own, but like you've got classes and if you don't go to college, then you're start, you're just starting now for the first time to like live on your own. And then from there you're just taking this like massive leap in the world. Like you're still on your parents insurance until you're 25 or you can be.

You know, and it's like there's so much this independence comes and then you have to figure out what to do with it. And of course, you're comparing yourself to all the other people. I think that I at least want people that are listening to feel less alone, knowing that like, I mean, I definitely did it.

Yeah. And also, it's so wild to think that we're supposed to... Society makes us feel like we're supposed to have our whole life figured out in our 20s. And it's like, you have so much more life to live and so much more growing and learning to live. And if you had it all figured out in your 20s, think about how boring your life would be if you had nothing else to figure out. Exactly. And I think it's just never going to be easy, right? Anything worth doing is going to take time and hard work. And I do think spending your 20s...

away at that not thinking oh I wish I could just catapult to here because you don't really wish you could catapult to there you really do wish like given the option if you walked up the mountain or if you took the gondola to the top of the mountain like you're gonna feel really accomplished if you walk up it yeah you take the gondola and skip all the steps and you're just kind of standing up there yeah and I feel like this girl who sent that DM about um being

being like the last in the friend group to get engaged or try for babies because she thinks the moments won't be as big or people will feel too busy it makes me sad for her to think that because I can understand that thought process but I feel like when you truly surround yourself with good people you won't feel that way and especially like when you find a partner you won't

Like, I don't know. I guess like when I think about getting engaged, I don't really think about my friends as much now that I have P and same like with one day when we get married and have babies. Like I just think about like how him and I will feel and probably my parents because they'll be grandparents. Yeah. And it's funny too. I would rather not get married with the pack.

That's where I actually think it's less special. Yeah. Right? Because then you're exhausted. You have wedding exhaustion. You have eight weddings in one year. But when you're the outlier, when you're three, four years later, people are ready to do it again. Right? Or when...

You have a baby and all your friends' babies are growing up. All your friends are going to have baby fever and they're going to be like, oh my God, let me hold your baby. And they'll have the experience to share with you. And do you know what you and I are doing right now? What? We're literally doing the mindset shift for her. So she was saying, which was like our action item. So one thing that we had talked about was doing a mindset shift and we're verbally doing it. So this girl was saying...

All my friends aren't going to be, they're not going to care. They're not going to want to celebrate me. I'm going to be like left behind. And we're saying, no, they'll have experience. How cool is it to not get married when everybody else is? They're going to be so excited to go on a bachelorette trip when you do. Like I texted one of my friends the other day and I was like, hey, what was your first solid food? Right? She's got a four-year-old. Like that's who you go to and you ask. It's actually a really good thing, I think.

The mindset shift is so true. And that is what I started to implement when I was dating because I would say like the dating was where I felt the most left behind because in Minnesota, like I said, everyone was

wifed up. But I remember I used to tell myself that, Jordan, how awesome is it that you are now looking for a partner that you feel like you understand yourself so much better and you understand your want and needs and like you love yourself. Now you can give that love to someone else. Because if you would have dated someone and married them five years prior, you would probably not be married to that person anymore because you've changed so much. So it's,

It's like a mindset shift that I always would tell myself, like, no, this is good for you and your timeline because you need to be at a certain point in life to find that person. And that helped me so much. I think that's a really good point of internally shifting your mind and like reframing it. Yeah.

And also thinking like, okay, if you had the single friend, right? She could either be the single friend or she could be the one really focused on her career. Yeah. Holding out until she... Working on herself until she finds the right person. Yes. Or if you feel like...

You want babies because everyone else around you is be like or the friend or that friend be like, no, they're traveling and experiencing life before they do that. Or they're trying to hit a financial goal before they do that. Or you are doing that. And it's like it's so it's challenging, but it's also so easy to shift your mindset when you do that.

It it's just like it's really game changing because then I also think you stop comparing yourself when you shift your mindset because You put yourself on a different trajectory that doesn't compare to that person anymore Yes, I i'm with you and I think that there's this concept of like laying the groundwork Which is there was like two examples I just thought of but one is the girl that messaged me and she was like I really want to have babies like I want to have kids I really want that life, but I don't even have a boyfriend yet. And so i'm worried it won't come. Okay, so

laying the groundwork I think applies there just as much as I think it applies in careers where let's say you go to law school or medical school and a lot of your friends could have finance jobs where they're instantly making money, but you're paying money, right? So like you're still in school paying money out, but you know, you have to go to residency. Like I think doctors is the best example, but fast forward 10 years. Okay. Well then you, you got your job. You just had to wait longer to get it, which is the laying the groundwork.

example or like cutting your teeth to get your experience to then be able to get the job that will put you in the position to succeed and for the girl who says like I want to have kids it's like work on yourself put yourself in the best possible position right now so that when you do find the guy that you're ready like you're ready to go and like you're the best version of yourself yeah I I

I could not agree more. And I know it's a little like woo-woo to say sometimes that like everything happens for a reason. But like that also is something that I tell myself like everything happens for a reason. Things come to you when you're ready. And like saying little things like that to myself does help me not feel so stuck or prevents me from comparing because I'm like the universe will give it to me when I am ready for it. It's similar to like how I met Pete. Like it was like a true –

moment of okay you put in the work in therapy by love for loving yourself we're now going to give you someone to love yes because had you have met pete a year before do you think that you could have had the relationship you have today

Absolutely not. I think that I can't speak for him because I don't know where he was mentally. Like, I don't know if he was looking for a relationship a year prior. But for me, I probably would have pushed him away and been a bit toxic because I was trying to figure out my own stuff, my own attachment styles, my own stuff.

ways of loving people or like understanding that I deserve love where I probably would have ruined the relationship because I wasn't ready yet. I, I, it's so funny. One thing I've been thinking so much about is like, you know, you do get things when you're ready. You do run into people that you can handle seeing when you're ready. Like, I do think that the universe, they've got our back like that if you believe it does. Yeah.

A thousand percent. Like there's so many situations where you're like, wow, that was like so serendipitous. But it's like, no, the universe just like gave it to you because it was the right time and you trusted it. Yeah. And I don't think you can. Well, you can't expedite that process. No, you you could try. But that's I think a lot of times when failure happens or just like it doesn't work out.

Yeah. And if you're patient, like being patient is part of the process. I think you have, I think, I think if, okay, I would say if you're in a point where you have to be patient and it feels frustrating, just having trust that it will all work out. Like,

I think it can be really difficult, but it pays dividends instead of like, I remember yesterday when I brought up the topic of the girl, um, wanting kids, but not having the boyfriend yet. Well, what one thing you said that I really liked was, yeah, but better, better to do that than find the wrong guy. Yeah. Fully like,

It's just, yeah, it's hard because everyone feels stuck. And feeling stuck happens to the best of us every day. There's a different feeling you feel every day. And comparison happens every single day. But I think just, like, knowing that there is a right path for you out there and, like, trusting yourself and the universe's plan just helps put you at ease.

Yeah, and I think to the note of the timelines, right? I don't know who created the timelines. I actually think depending on geography, all timelines are different. So like forget the timelines because 35 in New York is a young mom. So young. It's very young. And I think that that gets lost in the Midwest sometimes. And so...

I just think forgetting, you can't skip the timeline. You can't go with the wrong guy just to start the family because then fast forward and think about when you're 40. Okay, you could be divorced or you could be miserable. Instead, you have to have patience and just say, I'm not going to settle for the wrong thing. Don't you think? Yeah, I always think about the example you said about Vera Wang, how she...

created her first dress at what, like 45 or 50 or something? Yeah, I don't even remember the age, but it was something like that. Yeah. And you just think she was a designer at 21. Yeah, and now she's one of the most...

of respected wedding dress designers out there. And if she wouldn't have followed her correct timeline and kept believing in herself, she wouldn't be known for that. Or even Demi Moore. I don't know if she won, but getting nominated for... She won. It was her first one. Yeah. Think about how long and how many movies and TV shows she's been in. And then at the age of 50-something, she's winning. Yeah.

And I think what she said was somebody told her at some point she couldn't do it. Like you'll, I think I can't, I'm paraphrasing here, but like you'll never be taken seriously as an actress. Yeah. And that lived in her head for a really long time. And then she finally got it. And,

Demi Moore is not 25, you know, like she didn't learn this lesson then. And so I think I, but I think the thing is, and I, and I think, correct me if you don't agree, because I want to make it clear, like Jordan and I are still figuring everything out, right? We're just talking about experiences that we've had with this, but I think the comparison comes from

you find one person that's done it. And it's like, why is that not me? Instead, it's like, okay, everyone is still trying to figure it out. I fully agree with you. I mean, you and I, like the amount of times our careers have changed since...

not even just moving to New York, but since graduating college. And I'm sure every time we made a career move, we were like, we have it figured out. We'll be here forever. And think about how many different career moves or even with our content, how many times you and I have changed what we're niching in or what we're talking about to figure out what works. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Yes. And I think that's actually a really good point is like the ability, the ability to pivot a, but be the not being afraid to fail, I think is, is in there with this comparison. Like, yes, there's comparison, but also like trying things. Yeah. Okay. If something doesn't work.

I know comparison is the thief of joy is a very common term, but I do tell myself that on a regular basis and it does help my brain remember like, oh, you're taking so much enjoyment out of this day opportunity experiencing experience because you are comparing yourself to that person or that individual or that video, this or that. And like that does help me like snap back and be like, oh, no, like I truly am like in self-pity now because I'm comparing myself.

Yes, and you have to, and I always think like you have, comparison is the joy. You always have to remember where you started to realize how far you've come.

And I think we are, we're really quick to forget. Um, and, and then the next thing I think is when you say comparison is the thief of joy, it's like the journey is the best part, right? Everyone always thinks like, Oh, I want, but you hear about these founders all the time. And they're like, I sold my business and I woke up the next day and I had all the money in, in my bank account in the world that you could possibly dream of. And I didn't know what to do with myself. It meant nothing. There's this girl on Tik TOK. I love her. She is the owner of the nitro coffee bar in Providence. Um,

Rhode Island. And she always talks about how she maxed out so much, so many of her credit cards. And I want to say like,

I can't remember the exact number. I feel like she threw six figures or a million dollars around how much she was in debt or maxed out. Oh, sorry. No, she maxed out so many credit cards and now she's making millions. But she was like, there was a point where I was in debt up to my eyeballs. Everyone around me thought I couldn't make it. And now she has one of the most, if not the most successful and most viral coffee shops on the East Coast. Yeah.

Yeah, and I bet she loved that journey. Do you know what I mean? I feel like she probably at one point was in debt up to her eyeballs, but she knew what she was working for, and she knew it would work out. And it didn't happen overnight. She's been doing it for years. She's not 21. She's in her 30s. And yeah, she just like...

she didn't give up on herself and she, and she also really appreciates her journey because she put in so much work to get to where she is. Yeah. I always think shots on net one will go in. Yeah. So that's also too, I like to follow people like that because I'm like, okay, this person, like I admire them. They hustled and they did it for a long time and like they're older and like they took the untraditional route. So it's like also to like,

follow and make sure you're consuming content of people that you admire and that you don't feel like you are comparing yourself to. Yeah. That's actually a really good plan or idea, um, suggestion because it makes you, if you're, if you're just like following this, like life that you want to live, but there's so many steps in between, I do think that that could start to weigh on your mental health. Totally. Especially compare. I mean, especially now with like

all the social media platforms and TV shows and like access to everyone else's life. No question. I think it can get so comparison heavy. Yeah. Timelines are stupid. I agree with you. I'm like, who invented this? Like, when did we start having to do all that, you know? Right? By a certain date. Yeah. But I like this conversation. I think it's something that everyone struggles with no matter if they admit it or not. And it's like,

There's no one cure for all or like a quick fix. It's just, I think like telling yourself little things and little mantras throughout the day to like get you through. Yeah. Sitting in comparison is never the right, like I do think if you're there, right. If you're sitting in your, that you, you do have to get out of that mind, that, that headspace, like you do have to say, okay, where do I go? And it's just like, enjoy your process.

Make one small change. I do think, I think that's a very good, I think that's a really good point. Yeah, because you will, you will jump to the next comparison, like no matter what. Yeah, right. So stop the cycle. Yeah. Do we want to do our listener question? Yeah, this one is a little bit wild. Okay.

Okay, let's see here. Ready? Okay. Listener question. My boyfriend and I recently attended one of my oldest friend's weddings. My best friend since middle school, we're both almost 30 now, was there too, along with her boyfriend whom I hadn't met yet. He seemed nice at first glance and was definitely as quirky as her, which I loved. But then we went to take pictures. Mind you, this was at a beautiful winery the day after it had rained. So I was like,

As we walked through the yard, I yelled, shit, my heels are sinking into the mud. Her boyfriend then said, maybe this is your sign to lose weight. My boyfriend almost lost his temper, but managed to keep it together since it wasn't our day to make a scene. I decided to hold it in for the time being as well. Later, when I brought it up to my best friend, she got super defensive and shut me out completely as if I had made it up. I really wanted to repair things with her and tried to

So just to be clear, the boyfriend said that to her, not the girlfriend.

Right. The friend. I mean, I think I would be more upset at the friend for not having my back. Like, I can't like I'm trying to think like if like imagine if Sydney's husband said that to you or Madeline's fiance said that to me and they didn't say anything. I would be like, no, I'm not mad at your husband or fiance because whatever. I'm mad at you for not sticking up and not.

One, allowing your partner to speak to someone like that, but two, also the person that you're best friends with. Yeah, it is so... I agree. This one has a lot of layers. So first off, I'm with her on what's he saying to her behind closed doors. Yeah. Yeah.

Second of all, it's a bit, why did she go to defend him so hard? And pretend like it didn't happen? Like, how do you pretend that it didn't happen? I mean, it's your best friend, so, like, you know her character. You know she's telling you it did happen. Yeah. I feel like I can understand the friend, obviously, like...

in the position she's in because like it's her best friend but like if anyone should be mad it should be her mad at those two and like not wanting to speak to those two

So what do you, what, so what, so that's your advice to her, right? If she's saying, do you think I should reach out or just wait for her to come to me? My only thing is I think, I think it'll be a very long time. There's two options here. She marries this guy and she never comes to you and things are never the same. And you need to grieve that relationship and just know that that, that that's a very real thing that can happen here. The other thing is I don't think she'll come to you until they break up.

Yeah, and if she does come to you, I don't think this would be the last time that this happens where he says something inappropriate and she sticks up for him over you. And that will be a very hard thing to deal with for the rest of your friendship. Yeah, and I think he'll dig his own grave. A guy, anyone, I mean, that's an outlandish, uncalled for, not okay comment. Kudos to her husband or her boyfriend for not getting involved. Yeah.

But I do think like she this is such a sweet girl that wrote this right because she wants like her friend back and she wants to keep the peace and like she said it happened. But I'm afraid he's probably in your friend's ear saying don't talk to her anyways. Who cares? Like some some mean things and it's I hate when these things happen. I think.

If we're being very rational and she wants advice to meet the girl, what I would do is I would give it a while, let everyone cool off, and then try to ask her out to dinner to make sure that it's just those two. And then have a very heartful conversation. And don't blame. Just be like, I'm just curious to...

Like, if he's speaking to me like that, I just want to make sure you're okay. Or I know that he probably didn't mean it, but can we just, like, acknowledge that this happened? And can you maybe explain to me, like, more on his character? Like, don't go in, like, blaming her. Just try to make her understand that your feelings were hurt.

I that's great advice and get make sure to get just the two of them. And I do think if you don't go into blame and you just I think I think what you just said is perfect. And I think that the friend will at least feel loved. And even if she can't admit it right then, right? Maybe she's like a new relationship. He's the shiny boy. She's head over heels for him. But all in due time, will she realize like, I don't like the way he treats me and she'll know she can call you. Yeah. But if you want to know what I would do, I would tell them both to F off. Yeah.

I would have just, yeah, it was nice of her not to make a scene at that moment. But I would have been like, what did you just say to me? And I would have called the girl over and been like, this is what he just said, just so we're clear. Yeah. But that's hindsight. Yeah. And in my head, I'd be like, if your boyfriend's saying it and you're not defending him, that's you saying it to me as well. So or if you're not defending me, I mean.

Yeah. And pretending like it didn't happen. That's a really, that's a sad situation, but it's sweet of the listener to write this because she obviously cares about her friend, but it's really sad. You also just like, wouldn't make that up for, for what? Right. Like in what world? Yeah. I mean, that doesn't do anybody any good. No. Sad, but I hope everything works out and she seems like a good friend and she deserves better. So I hope she figures this out. Yeah. I, I agree. Yeah.

Should we do recs? Yes, I love that we're going to do some skin, some rosé. Yeah, we have three recs each because we felt like – or two to three recs each because we felt like we can't just keep giving you guys TV shows to watch. We need to give you other recs that we're loving. Okay.

Okay, so you've got a rosé one in light of Napa. Yeah, so New York is officially warming up. It is like 60 degrees. And the other day I had Yes Way Rosé, which is one of my favorite rosés. And it just made me feel like summer is here. I don't know. There's something about rosé where when I drink it, it like puts me in the warm weather mood. And I was just happy. I'm so with you.

I also love their branding. Like, I know I can see the bottle. Yes Way Rosé. Also genius of them. Madeline's Bachelorette's coming up. And in my head, like, I was thinking about, like, what we're going to alcohol to get. And I always pick up, like, Yes Way Rosé for the wine of choice because it's like she said yes.

Yeah, that's cute. You could even write on it. She said, and then it could be like, yes way, Rosé. So I'm going to get like a bunch of yes way, Rosé for her. And it's just like cute. It's like pink and it's like a really pretty bottle. So, um, I know I drank the Rosé and I was like, one, forgot how delicious this is. And two, I'm like, summer's here. I'm happy. Or spring is here, I should say. Yeah.

Yes, spring, but spring in New York, it's the best. Okay, so then I see, let's just do all of yours. Okay, so then my next one, I just wanted to let you know that I officially got a hydrofacial for the first time. Loved it. Obsessed. Right? It's just nothing like it. If you guys live in New York, I go to Athos NYC and Eva, she does my facials and it was the most magical experience that I've ever experienced.

You actually feel the dirt being sucked out. My skin? I was like, is my skin real right now? I looked so much like a glazed donut. I was like...

I feel so good right now. It's truly like the sucking and then they prime your face to put stuff back in it. Like that tool that it's like a pat there. So when you drive from LA to Orange County, there's the hydro facial HQ on the side of the road. And like, they are in there like seriously working on the technology of like removing the dirt and then immediately inserting in the hydration. Cause it like penetrates the deepest level. I really think that technology is pretty cool. Oh, I love that. Also to like,

That's one of the best facials I think a beginner can get because it's gentle on the skin, but also, like, everyone needs moisture in their skin. Yes, and dirt removed. Yes, totally agree. And then my last rec is, so...

You have been telling me that you really like Nexus products and you know I'm like a slick back bun girly so I got the Nexus slick stick. Love it. I don't know why I haven't been using a slick stick my entire life. It's game changing. It's game changing and I so I was never using one either but postpartum I have these like flies right like a lot of my hair is just like broken. I have that. Yeah and like

It's just, I've always seen people be like, get this slick back stick. And I'm always like, I'm not going to add that in. It is the biggest game changer. And I'm taking it with me to the wedding because one night I'm like, I'm going to do a slick back. But it's just like an elevated slick back when you add this Nexus Slick Stick to it.

I always have, like, so I always have dead baby hairs on my left side, and I always have one that sticks up, and no gel or hairspray will ever get it down. But, like, the Slick Stick, since it's, like, a heavier balm, it, like, actually keeps it down from sticking up, which I love. So...

Yeah, I'm so with you. What are your recs? Those are my three. Okay, so mine is the Skin Farm Cleansing Pad. And this pad, like I'll take it down to my neck. And they're just like these little circular detoxing. And I use them like every three days.

No, three times a week, right? So Monday, Wednesday, Friday, loosely. And I like went to sleep this morning. I used it on my neck and my face. And they're like, I had dirt on me. Yes. And it's like, I've got to remember to use these cleansing pads because it's seriously, and my face will get a little red and tingly. I love it. Do they have like a glycolic acid in them or like something exfoliant? Yes. Love. I will say no.

An exfoliant pad is the best product for everyone to buy because one, it's so important to like remove the dead skin cells from your face. But two, it's like we're always supposed to exfoliate, but you should never use like remember like the Neutrogena like little bead ones we would use when we were kids. Don't use those or like the St. Ives like that is so bad for your skin skin and it scratches the surface. So the pads are chef's kiss. Yeah, it's like just enough.

I'm going to try those. I love Skin Farm, but I've never used their pads. But I have some other branded pads, and I use them all the time. I just got another box because I was like, when I fly, the second I get off the airplane, oh, it's for sure when you travel. And then they also have this face whip that I just got a couple days ago.

and it was funny like whipped cream like that okay exactly and like it is it's like a cloudy textured but it firms you up so I wear it at night it's my it's now my moisturizer that I put on before I go to bed and you can feel it starts to tighten your skin and it's it's it's a good moisturizer I've like tried a lot of them I really like this one wait I need to try those they

like I'm like really into this face whip that sounds lovely it is and it's just like it's a tube right it's not a squirt you put your hand in there oh yeah wait you should post on your Instagram story or send me a picture of you putting it on because I'm like so curious to what this looks like okay well I sent a photo of the closed jar in our group text but I need to open the jar for you oh okay I'll look it up that I love like a fun texture

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