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Yeah, you look very like glowy. You're glowy and dewy. Thank you. It's raining right now in New York and you know how like you go outside and...

the moisture with the rain hits your face and it gets a little greasy and glowy. That's kind of happening right now. So I tried to wipe it if it looks a little too dewy on camera. Oh, I think it looks great. I think it looks really, really good. I don't know if it's the camera or if it's actually me, but man, I look pale. You look so tan compared to me. Oh, I don't think you look pale at all. Okay, good. Hopefully it's just the camera and the lights. Yeah. What lip gloss are you wearing? I'm wearing a lip gloss.

I'm wearing Summer Friday's Brown Sugar lip gloss. So do you like Summer Fridays? Oh, yeah. It looks really good on. Thank you. I do, actually. I really like it. I would say they are one of my consistent casual lip colors that I wear because they actually keep my lips moisturized.

So I do, yeah. Do you have any? No, I don't have any of their lip stuff, but I just got their, like, lightly tinted face moisturizer or something. Have you used that? Have you used any of their other products? Yes, I have their Jet Lag Eye Cream, which I really like. And then I also have their tinted... I don't know if it's considered a tinted moisturizer foundation. It's like...

You put it on, it's like a light, it's almost like a CC cream. And a white like rectangle? Yeah, yeah.

See, now I don't think that that's giving me enough coverage for like... What else do you pair that with? No, I have to like use it as a primer. Okay, that makes sense. It could be a primer, but I was just using it as like the only thing and it just wasn't working for me. I thought that when I got... So when I got it, I was looking for something that would be more coverage, but like a CC cream base.

So I got it thinking I could do it, but then I put it on and I was like, oh no, if I use this, I have to like really use a lot of concealer or a lot of blush or bronzer because it's like what I would wear if I'm going to the beach or something. Yeah, I won't be repeat purchasing it. No, I won't either. But I will say, I think you would love their jet lag eye cream. And I also would love to try their jet lag face cream.

Okay. I would love to try it. And it's just like super moisturizing. Yeah. I feel like their eye cream, I haven't tried their moisturizer, but I would imagine if it's similar to the eye cream, I put it on and I don't get like the bags or look as tired in the morning. So I really like to wear it as a night cream. And I know that you've talked about getting puffy. I feel like it also like de-puffs my under eyes.

Oh, wow. That's fabulous. Yeah, that is what I think about solving the jet lag problem would be like caffeine or something in the eye stuff. Yeah, but for summer Fridays, you should try their red one because you used to, I don't know if you still do, you know that lip gloss you used to always wear? It was like a little pinky red. It was like a drugstore one. That, oh, yep. That, they have a similar color in their lip butter balm that I think you'd love. Okay, I'll try it. Yeah, I think you'd look really good in it.

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Let's hear it. Tired. Oh, for some reason, like, I didn't hear it. It's probably because, hopefully they can hear it on the recording because it's such a lovely sound. But since it's rainy in New York, I'm just a sleepy girl today. You got your pink monster. That'll help you. Mm-hmm. I'm drinking the Ultra Strawberry Dreams, and it tastes like a strawberry, or not a strawberry, um...

Why am I blanking on that really famous dessert? Strawberry fruit cake. Strawberries and cream. Oh, yum. Is that what it's called? Yeah, there's strawberry shortcake. Oh, yeah. Shortcake.

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We are just like five seconds behind. Like there is no lag on the internet. We are just lagging ourselves. So I think you and I combined equals technical difficulties because you know how I broke my phone last time I was with you? Yes. This time I'm with you. Um...

We're having lag issues. My phone is, nothing is working on my phone, like social media wise. I'm like, what's happening? Why would ever I'm near you and my phone doesn't work?

Wait, what? Wait, also, let's, like, do... I forgot about this. Okay, so when we were in L.A., obviously, Jordan's phone broke, and, like, the screen was green. And then you couldn't even go to dinner because they... Tell us what happened. I know. I was so bummed. Everyone's like, how was L.A.? I was, like, good up until the point where I, like, didn't even get to see Alex. Yeah.

Good until the Apple store. So I went right to the Apple store, which thank God it was across the street from our hotel because I don't know what I would have done if it wasn't. But I went there at 6. I think I got there. It closes at 8. I go in and they're like,

okay blah blah blah we'll look at what's wrong with your phone do you have apple care and i was like yeah of course i have apple care i made sure i got it last time so we're looking at my apple care and they're like okay you you don't have apple care though and i was like no i do so i pulled up my phone i showed them

But it wasn't tied to the serial number on my current phone. It was tied to my old phone still, which that was an Apple mistake. They forgot to transfer it over. So I've been paying for it every month for two years, but I haven't, it hasn't been hooked up to the right,

Serial number. A.K.A. the right phone. So the guys like. Were like talking about it. We're on hold with Apple. And I think it's like 45 minutes in. And I was just like hey.

how long is it going to take to fix my phone once we get this figured out? And he was like, oh, I don't know if we'll be able to fix it tonight, especially with how long this is taking. We might have to send you to a different Apple store to do it tomorrow. And I was like, no, like we can't. We can't. Like I have to leave at 3 a.m. tomorrow and I need to like, I can't go to another Apple store. I don't have a phone to get an Uber. I was like panicking and he was like, oh God, she is, she's a wreck. I was really nice, but I think he saw like how

like worried. I genuinely was because I was just like, no, no, no, no. I was panicking. So after that, I was like, okay, screw Apple care. I don't even care. Like how much is it going to be out of pocket? Because I just want my phone. And he was like,

well if you want to pay out for it out of pot like out of pocket we can get it fixed potentially now and I was like just do what you gotta do I was like I just need a phone like yeah it sucks I have to pay but I need my phone I'm my anxiety is like through the roof at this point so

They start working on my phone. I'm on the phone with AppleCare. Finally, I get a hold of someone. I explain the situation. And the guy was so nice. He was like, oh my God, Jordan. I can't believe that happened. That's crazy. That's all our fault. We'll just give you a voucher for free. We'll take care of it this time. And I was like, Chris, I love you. Thank you so much. But I'm not kidding you. I got off the phone with AppleCare the exact same time my phone came out. I was on the phone with them for two hours. So I was there for two hours.

But, like, overall, there's a happy ending, which is really nice. Oh, my God. Those Apple Store people were so nice. Apple Care was so nice. Yeah, it sucked. I had to wait. But the Apple Store could have easily been like, we don't have time to fix it tonight. Sorry. We're going to have to send you to the store that stays open until 9 or due tomorrow. But his name was Javier. Javier, if you're listening, you...

are literally my guardian angel. I was like, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. And then Chris, the Apple store guy or the Apple care guy, he was so nice. He's like, yeah, we'll just give you a voucher. You'll get it for free. And I was like, thank you. Like, nice of Javier to fix it, but also like, I think that they have to fix it. Like, your phone doesn't work. And it's shit out of luck. Yeah, like, they have to fix you. They don't have to, but...

I really, really want to see them do that in that moment. So I'm glad they did that. And the other thing that's like so funny to hear, for some reason, Apple to me like can't make mistakes because like everything is so like automated and technical. And for them to be like, oh, we didn't plug it at your Apple, Karen, on your right phone seems like impossible for them. Like if Apple told me there was a mistake, I would think it was me, not them.

Right. And also, too, you think it would be so easy for them to switch over AppleCare, transfer it to a new phone. No, it's I mean, it's still in progress for them to transfer it over to my phone. I was on the phone with them on Sunday. I was on the phone with them yesterday. Like, it's so crazy how difficult some things are.

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me especially with them like i feel like they're always just like they have the cloud everything lives in the cloud and is transferred so quickly that you'd think that they could just like two buttons swap swap yeah so yeah but it sucked because i missed dinner with you i got back to my hotel room and i like tried going to bed but then i was just wired because you know how like

Like my anxiety was like coming down. I had finally got my phone back. So I was like catching up on things. And I think I just like was wide awake until like 11 o'clock, which wasn't great because I had a 3 a.m. wake up call. What time was your flight? Okay, my flight was at 6 a.m. Honestly, you left late. Oh, but to talk about my flight, then I just had great luck. So I...

got upgraded to Delta one again and there was four people ahead of me. But the reason why I got it was because they were couples and couples and they didn't want to separate. So because of their love, I got upgraded. No way. Yeah. Like I would have easily been like, see you later, Pete. I'm taking Delta one. But these guys were like, no, we want to stay. We want to stay together. And I was like,

Thank you for giving me that. So I, that's so funny. So I agree that I would also take the Delta one and leave this in and not do the combined upgrade. But on our flight, what happened was I got the last upgrade and Harrison didn't get upgraded. And since we had Tate, um,

I, I breastfeed her when we go up and down and like I sat down beside this guy and then it hit me like I'm going to be breastfeeding this child by this random, you know, and he was like our age and he like looked cool and I just looked at him and I thought, nope, not today. So I just hopped up and gave my seat to the guy that was sitting beside Harrison and I went up to him and I was like, hey, will you trade me seats? Like I'm in first class. This is a great, it's over three hour flight. Like you're going to get your meal. I'm going to get my meal.

It's great news for you. And he was like, I don't really want to trade seats. And I was like, okay. He was like, you know, like he like paused for like entirely too long. I was like holding her, offering him the first class seat. So he ends up trading me and I could hear, cause we were just the first row behind first class. So I could hear him the whole time. He never got a drink and he never took the meal.

Like he declined all services up there and like was kind of mad he was up there. How old was he? And he was like, he was like 50. He was very worried about his bag. And I told him, I was like, the second this plane lands, I'll get your bag. And I did. I stood up. I was like, which bag's yours? And he was like, that one. And listen, I thought that was a little weird too because I like was like trying to like handle Tate. Yeah.

But I was like, let me get your bag, sir. The guy behind me hopped up and was like, I'll take him his bag. I was like, yeah, thank you. Like what's happening? You're joking. Like it'd be one thing if you just were by yourself, like, oh, I want to sit next to Harrison, but you have a baby and you're offering this man first class. And he's like, no, I don't know about that. What? Yeah. And I finally was like, listen, I got a breastfeeder. Like I'm not doing it by, you know, Brad up there. I want to do it by him where like he held the blanket over me. Like,

Come on, buddy. That is crazy. But I will say people get like you think people are just crazy in general with flying around the holidays. People get extra wild and weird. I think it's because there's so many people who fly who aren't used to it. But so like to me, that's someone who he just like maybe was a nervous fire and he was like, I already like checked my seat. I have my bag. But still like that pissed me off.

I think so too I think that's what it was It did seem like And he was very nice and things It just wasn't like super It wasn't like the warmest interaction You know what I mean Like he was fine But like I was kind of like What's happening I also had no idea You could breastfeed on a flight I was going to ask you that In LA If that's doable Yeah

Well, it's the best way to keep their ears on pops because it's like the hardest suck. So like they say, if you can, like that's the guaranteed. But I just put a blanket over me and do it. And like, it's fine. And in that moment, you're like sweating because they do start to cry because their ears can hurt. And so like, you don't want them to start wailing. So like there's been a time or two where I'm sure everyone's just like seen my boo, but I'm like, I don't care because it's either that or the baby's howling.

I guess I never thought about that because if you were to go to Europe, you would have to breastfeed. Or if you're going anywhere that's a long flight. Yeah, you'd have to pump. I had to pump on our flight to New York. I had to breastfeed her and pump. Everything was going crazy. Yeah.

Yeah, it's hard out there. Yeah. Feeding. That's where like going back to babies in first class, I would for sure upgrade to a first class seat if I was breastfeeding, had a baby. Like you need a pod, like you need privacy at that point.

Yeah, and it was I was like awesome that I had got the upgrade and Harrison and I both were like, okay, even if he got the upgrade, he would have given it to me because like I could take Tate up there. And then I sat down by my guy and I realized, oh my God, I'm popping out a boob bite you like it didn't dawn on me. I was like, oh, I would sit in any seat to just be beside somebody I know.

Flights are wild. I could talk about people on flights all day. Like the guy next to me, he didn't get up once. Didn't, I think he got, um, seltzer water, but didn't eat a meal. Didn't take advantage of any other drinks. And I'm like, how are you surviving? Like you're, he was a big man. Like, I'm like, how are you not eating? I've had like 15 meals. How are you not hungry? How do you not have to pee? You're in a suit. What's going on?

Maybe he had flight anxiety. No, he looked like someone who flies all the time. And when I say big man, I don't mean big. I mean he was 6'4", tall. He looked like someone who needed to be feeling his body. Yeah, he was probably in his 50s. He knew to give them his suit jacket. He looked like an established flyer. What time did your flight land?

In New York? Two. Two, 2.30. I think a lot of people use that New York to LA flight as their office for the day. I think that this guy probably got on the 6 a.m. flight, landed at 2 a.m.,

straight to like his meeting, probably hit two meetings in his suit. You know, like I think there's people that really like turn that clock and it's fascinating to me because I think that'd be fun. Um, I will say though, didn't, he didn't use his laptop once he watched TV the whole time. It was so funny because I would look over at him and he would just be like laughing and I was

I'm like, you probably, it's like the only peace and quiet you've probably gotten in like five, like five months. And you're just like catching up on TV. I was dying. I was like, who am I sitting next to? Oh, that's funny. That is not, it's not what I thought. I have another flight. I have another interaction that I encountered. I love flight talks.

Yeah, it's like, oh my God, I could do it all day. So when I flew back from Oklahoma to Austin, the only direct is Southwest. So, but it wasn't a full flight. Like I checked in that morning and got a 29. So like, that's how, yeah, they, they were like, it's like a, it's less than halfway full. Okay. So everyone should give or take, be able to have their own row and

If not, there should be window to aisles. And they were making multiple announcements that this flight was not full. Okay. So we get on, we take a row and there's an older gentleman like 60, 70 in front of us. He's on the aisle and no one's on the window. This another older couple gets on and

And the guy's like, hey, the husband says, hey, can we take your middle and your window seat? And the older man's like, are you sure? And he kind of looks behind him, you know, alluding to all the empty seats behind him. And the older man's like, yes, we want to sit here. And the guy's like, there's so many open rows. And the older guy, the older gentleman's like, you know, sorry, it's every, you know, we get to, it's a free seating process. We want these two seats.

So then the older man that was on the aisle says, you know what? If you guys want that, I'll go to the back. And then he got up and gave his seat. Well, this guy couldn't get his bags up there in time. And like the flight attendant kept saying like, sir, there's bigger overhead bins in the back. Like you're going to put your bag back there, but you can stay sitting up here. And it got like very awkward. So finally the gentleman and his wife that were trying to take the middle and the window seat left.

He ended up saying, sir, you can come back up here. You can have your row. Like, I'm sorry. He was very nice about it. But he was trying to take, like, he was going to have a full row. And they were all, like, 60 or 70 years old. You know what? I'm fed up with these 16, 70-year-old people. And my parents are literally that age. Speaking of that, this was my thorn of the week. I... And I'm sick of them on public transportation. I was on the bus yesterday. And...

My good old boss. And I'm- Ageist. I'm- I, like, almost lost my shit at this lady. So, I'm sitting on the bus, and it's, um, it was a mom and her son. This old lady gets on, and she probably was, like, I don't know, maybe, like, 68. She looked like she was in great shape. But, like, no judgment, because I don't know, maybe she could have a hip problem, whatever. And she's like, I don't know, I don't know.

But when she first got on, she was so nice. She was like, excuse me, young gentleman, do you think I could have your seat? And the kid was like, hey. And he's like, oh my god, of course. And I was like, that was so sweet. So she sits down next to the mom. They get off. They leave. And then...

She's like next to me now. And then another mom and son come on and the mom has like a three-year-old boy. Three-year-old boy sits down. The mom's standing and then it's me and this older lady sitting. We go through a couple stops and then this pregnant lady comes on and she looked totally fine. She was like happy as can be. But the old lady goes...

do you want to sit? I'm sure this young man will get up so you can sit down. And the mom goes, are you talking to my three-year-old son who barely can even stand? He's not getting up. He will fall over. Like she was just like trying to dictate. And the pregnant lady was like, I don't need to sit. I'm, I'm totally fine. And then the mom was like, if,

If someone should give up their seat, maybe like ask the other people who are a little younger behind you. And I had like my headphones on, like noise cancellation. I was editing a video. So I was, I mean, I was paying attention because I heard this whole conversation, but I was like kind of zoned in. And then the lady looks to me and she was like, or this girl could probably get up. And I look at her and I was like, I was like, sorry, what'd you say? She's like, maybe you could get up for the pregnant lady. And I was like, I look up and I was like,

how about you just ask nicely instead of trying to dictate where everyone is trying to sit? And I looked at the pregnant lady. I was like, you can definitely take my spot. I was like, I'm so sorry. I didn't realize you were like, like needed a seat. And she was like, no, she was like, I don't want to sit like this is so uncomfortable. And I was like, no, like I was like, please just take the seat. Like you're pregnant. Like I don't even need it. And then, then the old lady and like the mom were like, just like having like side sassy talk about me. And I was like,

This all could have been dealt with if you guys were just like, "Hey miss, do you mind if she sits? She's pregnant." I would have given up my seat in a heartbeat. But just the way she went about trying to dictate where people are sitting and making everyone uncomfortable, I was like, "I've had enough of this today." I was like, "Good day."

What? Yeah. She was like, I remember back in my day when anyone would get up for me and I was like, ma'am, no one would not get up for you. You're just asking people in such an unkind way and you're not even asking, you're telling people to get up when you don't know if people, like you're telling a three-year-old to get up when he couldn't even stand. Like I almost fell down like, cause the bus is like...

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About like... You know... People looking at their phones... And being like... Where society went... And they like... Feel a little left behind... And instead of just like... Handling it with kindness...

They're just like defaulting to this like sassiness, which doesn't help the problem. Like the problem doesn't get diffused. Try nicely first. Right. And like, like I said, I don't know. She could add some like hip issues or back issues or knee issues, but she looked like she was in great shape. I would say she was wasn't even 70. Looked like she worked out very, very good shape. And then I just felt so bad because this pregnant lady, she would look terrible.

So uncomfortable Like what the fuck Like just leave me alone I'm just trying to get Through this in peace Yeah I also think too Like if you just If you just ask nicely I think people are A hundred times More likely to respond A thousand percent Like I think Yeah it's like what It's like what the Brits said That I brought up The other day Like

That the Dr. Shannon said that 84% of conversations, how they start, how they end. And it's like, just start it nicely. You'd be surprised how people are like responsive to that. Yeah. So that was my thorn. I was just like, what's going on? I was like, I know Mercury Retrograde is starting, but I was like, man, at like five o'clock on a bus. I was like, I need to get home and get out of here. Too many, too many people are around me.

Yeah. And I'm sure the pregnant lady was just on the same page of just like, are you kidding me? She was. She like looked at me. She was like, I'm so sorry. I was like, don't apologize. You didn't do anything wrong. Like I was like, you were just thrown into the mix. Well, it is funny. It was your seat and it was her that they were wanting to sit there. But like neither of you two were involved. Like they were really just moving around the chess pieces. They literally were. I was like, you guys are making this so complicated. Also, the bus is like jammed and like the bus.

This one lady, she kept hitting me with her backpack and she's like, I'm so sorry. And I was like, it's fine. I was like, I've had a day. I was like, I'm done with the bus. You're the least of my worries, lady with a backpack. So yeah, that was my thorn. Gotta love elder people on public transportation. Not even old. I don't even consider 60 or low 70s old at all. Like my mom and dad are in their 60s and they are very, very young and healthy. Yeah.

Now that you've, my parents also are in their 60s, so I would like to re-age the people on the Southwest flight. They were 75, 80. They were much older. Like, these were not the 60s range. And I'm sorry to the 60-year-olds, because you are very with it. Wait, even the guy? They might have been like 75. Even the guy sitting was that old, too? Yeah. Oh. So he probably was pissed that he had to get up. I'd be mad. I'd be like, my legs hurt.

Yeah, like he was probably 70 and then the older couple that wanted to sit by him was, they were all within the same age range. This was not like, hi, young man, let me have your seat. This was like equal parties. That's what was so ironic about it was I was like, oh, you're going to put him out. I am so lucky that, knock on wood, I've not had any bad flying experience because there's some people I swear like,

When they fly, like Madeline, every time she flies, something chaotic happens. And I'm like, I'm so grateful that that is not me. But it can happen really easily because people are their most...

I don't know. True self, is that the right word when they fly? But people are a different version of themselves when they fly. Like, you can tell a lot about somebody. Like, if you're dating someone, just go on a flight with them. Because their true colors will expose. Like, I don't think... I think this was an episode... This might have been on the episode where you were on maternity leave with Pete. He, like, flew and he had to get up to go to the bathroom and he was in the window and...

this lady was on the aisle she wouldn't get up for him to go to the bathroom no she like made him he was like i had to like crawl over her legs he was like this was it was the weirdest experience and he asked he's like excuse me i need to go to the bathroom and she was like okay you don't get to do that no like she was like get up she was like 50 she wasn't even old he was i was like was she a really old lady who couldn't move and he's like no she was like 50 there are like

So many things that happen on flights. But like if you are in the window, your job is to make sure to not be an asshole with like the window, right? Like we're not blinding people. Like read the room, read the time of day that the flight is. But if you're aisle, like you know that middle and window are going to have to go to the bathroom. So you're just going to have to do some cardio, some ups and downs. God, imagine being a flight attendant. The things you see.

Cannot imagine being a flight attendant. The patience you would have to have. And they're always like in flight attendants too. Like they can make or break these flights. Like they can have a really good attitude. We had one that was getting us ice for the bottles, sanitizing the lids, like so kind. And then there's some that just like, they don't really care.

Oh my God. Yeah. That's fine too. But like, I love those ones that go above and beyond. Like they really do make it a better experience for everyone. Yeah. I had a flight attendant one time when the flight was so, so, so delayed. Like we were on the tarmac and it was so delayed. Like they actually let us get off, get out of our seats. She like smuggled me cans of wine. She was like, here you go. I know this is miserable for everyone. I was like, I love you. Yeah.

you're great with this girl i think i think you've told this before and like i think that that's the energy that they that if i was a flight attendant i would do that too right she's like i'm miserable i don't want you to be miserable too here's some wine i was like you're the best yeah like thank you because here's the thing like they might as well give out that alcohol right um so yeah so that was my throat thorn thrown in do you have a thorn

Yes, my thorn has to do with summer Fridays. So I, in Oklahoma, like we got back here and I had a holiday party Saturday night and I like went to get my makeup and my toiletries bag. And I like looked at Harrison and I was like, where are those? And he was like, oh, they're in Oklahoma. And I was like, dang. So I had like left them. So they're being shipped here. But it wasn't that like,

It wasn't so much that that happened because, like, I'll get them. It was just more the concept of, like, that's sort of the new normal is, like, Tate gets packed first. And, like, you just sometimes don't get fully packed. And, like, that just is what it is. And so that was my thorn because – so I ordered the Summer Friday stuff because –

I'd been wanting to try some new makeup anyways. And so I thought while there's, while I'm waiting on the makeup bag, like I'll try a couple of new items. And so that's when I ordered the summer Fridays, not loving it, but it's okay. And so that's my thorn quick thing on makeup. So I am starting to go back to wearing like drugstore makeup. I've been so impressed with like L'Oreal and Maybelline. Like the L'Oreal true match foundation is amazing.

My favorite foundation ever. You should try that. I think you would really like it. L'Oreal True Match. Yeah, I can send you it. It's on Amazon. Like, I can send you it. It's like $11. So I just like, here's the thing. Bought a couple shades. Yeah, I don't. There are very, skincare, like the face washes, those things, I think matter. But as far as this makeup stuff goes, like,

I don't think ingredient to ingredient they're doing anything different in, like, the Dior makeup versus the drugstore makeup. I'm, like, so ill-informed when I'm saying that, but, like, I don't think so. Literally, like, just give me the most basic thing. Like, I feel like makeup companies are coming out with all these, like, crazy things. Like, I'm contradicting myself because I think this is really cool, but, like, Dibs came out with this, like, jelly pH blush, which I actually love. I think it's incredible. But, like, why are we coming out with a jelly pH blush?

Like just give me a blush. I was going to say Bethany Frankel. She does those videos or she used to at least. Drugstore versus nice. Yeah.

And I think that that's like really cool. Oh my God. Like she loves L'Oreal. Honestly, like same. I'm going back to like almost all of the products I use are L'Oreal. The only higher end makeup brand that I really love for a lot of their products is Rare Beauty. I think Selena Gomez hit it perfectly with her liquid products. People are mad at her. Why are they mad at her?

Oh, I saw it. I never, I didn't listen to the TikTok. It's something with the awards. In the movie, what happened? Does Julie know? Oh, something about her Spanish wasn't good enough. Okay. Oh. She said I learned what I could in the time that I had. I don't know. I just saw people are mad. Yeah. I don't know why. I saw a bunch of TikToks, but I just like scrolled because I was like,

I like Selena or I like her makeup. I don't necessarily love her acting, but her makeup, like she, she did it right with rare beauty. It is top, top three for me, for sure. It's the holiday season and we are all carrying around different stressors, whether they are big or small. You guys don't. Oh, fuck. I forgot the number one thing. Sorry.

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Okay. That's what they have. That's their product line. Okay. Which I'm, I'm sure Haley will come out with. She's killing it. She also, I would, funny that it's Selena and Haley. I would say that Selena and Haley are the only two celebrities that I trust with their lines. Like, cause I don't usually like celebrity products because I think that they're not well researched, but rare beauty with makeup and Haley Bieber with road skincare chefs kiss. They know what they're doing.

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Yeah, I thought that was like a very good marketing move to like the phone case is cool, but then in order to like have the phone case, you got to have the lip peptide and like it all works. Yeah. Man, these companies, you're welcome. We're just throwing you out left and right today. Great gift ideas if you're listening really last minute. Yeah, you'd have to like...

I still think StoryWorth is the best last minute gift. It is literally an email. So my rose is that I finished all my Christmas shopping and I was going to ask you if you have a favorite Christmas gift you've ever gotten. Oh, love that question. I do. Do you? I've been trying to think. Okay.

If you have yours, definitely answer. I'm going to keep thinking because what I have is – I'll share it, but it's like I know there's something else.

So it's just the most like memorable thing burned into my brain. But I think I was, let's call it eight, nine, eight or nine. So my, so Sydney, you know, I often talk about, we wanted to be teachers and like we would play school for hours. Right. And so we really wanted desks, like teacher desks for Christmas. And I'll never forget, like I walked out of my room and Santa had brought me a desk. But what our moms did was they had like,

broken glass and like, like, I don't know, cemented down like beautifully broken glass on the front of it. And then they had with the glass, each of us nameplates made. It's like mine said, miss Hodges and her said, miss run. And like, it was like,

Like I did not know something so cool could exist, right? Because like I felt like a teacher. And so it's when you ask me my favorite gift that comes right to mind. I love that. There's nothing better than getting a gift that you didn't expect to get. Those are usually the best. And just thinking like I, and I just like remember thinking like I am a teacher. Like my dreams had like come true from Santa. And I was just shocked.

I can't picture you being a teacher. Oh, yeah. Oh, I could really get after playing school. I had one of those pointers that I would point to like a wipe off board. I loved it. You'd be like the teacher where if there was an argument in class, you'd be like, you two get up. You're debating this right now. You just have your students debate each other.

They're crying and the parents are always getting called and they're like, the teacher was a little bit crazy today. I'm done. What's yours? Mine is, so it's like when I think about a gift that's just burned into my brain, it's, I can't remember how old I was, but it was when the iPod Touches came out. I got an iPod Touch. The Touches? They had the buttons though, right? Yeah, it was pretty much like an iPhone that you couldn't,

text or anything with you just play games on it oh the ipod touch yes it was like that i remember that oh yeah and you're the download the music to it by like plugging it in yeah i played that all day like it was one of those gifts where i didn't think i was gonna get it and then after christmas my mom like brought me to her room and she's like i have one more gift for you and it was the ipod touch and i just remember sitting on the couch literally all day playing it and it was so much fun

Wait, so she like meant to not give it to you? Yeah, she was like, oh, looks like we have one more gift. It's under our bed. And it was iPod Touch. Oh, that makes me want to cry. I don't know why, but it's like so cute. Oh, I just, because Christmas like, because how old were you? I want to say, did the iPod Touches come out in middle school? Yeah, I remember when they came. Yeah, yeah. Seventh, eighth grade probably? Yeah, I think it was around then.

Really revolutionized things And you had to plug the headphones into it Oh yeah Yeah Oh yeah That's a great gift Uh huh I remember it I still can like kind of And you have to go on iTunes And like search the song Buy the song And then plug it in And like download your songs Oh and it was the worst If you had new songs But hadn't downloaded them to your iPod yet Like if you forgot I remember that sucked Yes Oh my god I forgot about that

Man, we used to be, we're so spoiled now with technology. But it's what I was just thinking about is like we lived through that time. Like my, what was your first phone? Mine was a Motorola flip phone. It was blue. Yeah, mine was a Motorola flip phone. Mine was gray. It was like a gray brick.

Yeah, and like we grew up T9 texting. And then I remember when the iPhone came out, I was like, ew, people, they want to type buttons. Like no one wants an iPhone. Right. And now it's like all we, it's like all we know. And when Blackberries were so cool, I wanted a Blackberry Pearl so bad when I was younger. I never got it. Or a Sidekick. I had a friend that had the Juicy Couture Sidekick that was bedazzled. And I just was like,

How do I get that? And my parents were like, you'd never get that. But I wanted it so bad because they like slide it up. Paris Hilton had one, right? That was the coolest phone ever.

I just, I remember when, when before we had a limited data, my dad used to be like, you are not allowed to text or call unless it's an emergency. Because if we go over our plan, you're going to be in big trouble. So I would like get a text and I'd be so nervous to text anyone because I was like, I'm going to get in trouble. And then my brother's over here, like going through our data plan, like it's nobody's business. Yeah.

Colton's on his one plan by himself. Literally, we would like, I remember one time my brother went through the data within like the first week and I would, I was like, that's my biggest fear. My brother's like, whatever. I'm like, what the heck?

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Wow. It is like so insane. Okay, so speaking of that, let's go to this TikTok thing. Like I'm very confused if it's banned or not. Oh, oh, wait, wait, wait. Did you say your quick, your rose? Oh, um, light tour? Oh, I went on. Yes. Okay, so I went on this like

Boat light tour that they have here in Austin I saw that It's basically like It was so cool And I just The reason it's my rose is I don't think that they like have that in other cities And it's just like fun to do holiday things like that That I wouldn't typically do And so it's my rose It was just like a really fun thing And we did it on a Monday So I thought it was really fun I love that And like we have holiday tours in cars But like on a boat How fun is that?

Yeah, it was, it was 45 minutes. It was simple. And it was just like this cheery thing to do that I honestly probably wouldn't have done had Tate not existed. And like, I don't think she knew that she was seeing lights, but I thought she did. So it was special. And that's all that matters. Exactly. So it was fun. That's, that's my rose. Um, no, you said your rose Christmas shopping. What's your, can you tell us like, can you tell us, did you do it online? Like what'd you do?

Oh yeah, all online. All my shopping was done on Black Friday and Cyber Monday.

shipped to you and you wrap it or ship direct to the person? A little bit of both. So all the gifts that I'm giving to Pete were shipped in person. All the gifts I'm giving to other people were shipped. They will be shipped to them. I don't think any gifts have arrived, which is crazy because I think, I don't know what happened, but like I'm just getting emails from gifts I ordered on Black Friday that they're just being shipped now.

um but I shipped a lot to my parents house so when I get there I'll have to wrap them but I like I can't ship them to me and then bring them to them you know what I mean no but it's so easy just to ship them there I think that's like the best best scenario so yeah I mean it's not like pretty shipping a gift to someone but I'm not gonna have a gift sent to me wrap it and then ship it it's a lot of work like for the five seconds someone unwraps something I'm like whatever

No and then like It's just easy to check it off your list I'm having a hard time With my list this year Like I keep like Sitting down to do it And then I I'll decide like five things I want to get that person And then like I won't pull the trigger So it's like not getting checked off But actually before this

I think I got through it all. I think I'm done. That's good. Yeah. It felt so good to be finished. And I'm just going to be so relieved once everything gets sent and is received because I can just check everything off my list.

Yeah. And it's like, if you're listening, it's like, just do it now. Like get it over with. Then it gets there before you're not express shipping anything. Like just do it. Yeah. But now back to TikTok ban, getting banned. What was your question with it? Okay. I'm like, do you know more than I know? Like, is it actually happening or not? I'm confused. There was like the thing overturned.

You know, I don't think I know any more than you do. I don't know if it's going to happen. I feel like we've been hearing about TikTok getting banned for like, what, three years now, two years now. I, whenever I hear, it's almost like the boy who cried wolf. Now, whenever I hear it, I'm like, yeah, yeah, okay, you already said this. But Pete this time was like, no, it actually could get banned. But then I talked to my manager and she was like, I'm not worried. And I was like, well, if you're not worried, I'm not worried. Like, I just, at the end of the day, don't think

It's going to happen, but I don't know. It could happen. I don't think it is either. Like, I do understand that the law didn't pass or the appeal didn't get passed and the appeal was the thing that wouldn't ban it. But I don't foresee a day where we wake up and, like, open the app and it's like, nope. Like, that's not going to happen. It's, like, so weird to think about. This is so sad to say, but, like, a life without TikTok, like...

I would have so much screen time back because I don't really scroll on Instagram. I just usually post and that's it. But with TikTok, I scroll. I don't like, yeah, I don't want to say that I wish they would do it for that reason. But like it would give people back a lot of time. But I do think there are some aspiring TikTokers that are in high school right now. And they're going to need to find a new dream job. Yeah.

I know I do feel bad for the people like who their livelihood is on TikTok. Like I can't imagine like that's very, very nerve wracking. Like I'm so grateful you and I have other stories like we have like Instagram podcasts, like just media. But it would be very scary if your whole career was on something that was potentially going to be taken away from you. Like the unknown would my anxiety would be through the roof.

Oh, no question. Like I don't wish that upon anyone, right? Never, never do I want someone's livelihood to be taken away from them. Especially a lot of the people that we're talking about, like our true creators. Okay. So like that regard, it's, it's, I hope it doesn't happen at all. But then I do think about like Tate growing up and I think, all right, if I got to pick right now, if TikTok existed or didn't, like, does it do more harm than good?

I don't know, you know, I really have to think about that. Yeah, I mean, if I had kids, I'd be like, I don't want you near that toxic app. Yeah, like the comments can hurt people and like the content can be misleading. Like,

I don't know. But then like also there's so much joy on it. Like it just depends. So it's like really tough. I mean, that's like how we get our news. It used to be Twitter. We'd always be like, oh yeah, I know about this because of Twitter. And now it's like, oh yeah, TikTok told me. Well, okay. So speaking of TikTok telling you, like are you following the UnitedHealthcare guy? I was literally about to say the same thing. I only know so much about it because of the TikTok videos I've been watching.

this guy, this whole situation, like I, I'm pretty sure like we thought the Menendez brothers was, was interesting. This guy, I'm sure they're going to make some Netflix documentary on it and it is going to be, I hope they don't mess it up because I think the story is so fascinating. The amount of time and thought that he's spent,

Granted, if any of it's like if what I've heard is true because it's from TikTok, but like the fact that he has like YouTube videos that Monopoly money was in his backpack, that the bullets had engravings on them. It's so interesting like that he was caught in McDonald's and in a backpack like like it's like it was all planned. Oh, did you see that the McDonald's workers not even going to get the money, the $50,000 for turning them in? Why not?

because this is so messed up. But basically, there was like all these stipulations on that money. So it's like $50,000 reward below it with an asterisk and fine print. It's like only if the Senate approves it and agrees that you are entitled to this money, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like there was all...

Oh, wow. Oh, and Julie says, and it was if you called the tip line and she called 911. Like, that is so messed up. So she's being penalized for finding a killer that the whole United States was looking for. That is ridiculous. And

And I guess like she'll probably most likely get fired if she already hasn't been fired because I guess they don't want to like associate. I don't know. They don't big corporations don't want to associate with like that kind of press. I don't know. But McDonald's, I feel like was really prevalent in the election and now it's really prevalent in this thing. It's like,

McDonald's keep finding themselves in the news, specifically in Pennsylvania. It's really funny. Well, now it's like that just teaches people that, okay, if I see someone, I won't call in because who's it going to benefit? It's just going to get me fired.

There was this TikTok that Harrison showed us and it was this guy in New York. He was really funny. I don't know his name. I wish I did because I'd like to credit him, but he was like walking and he was like, you know, we're all, we're all trying to find the assassin and there's in the police, you know, they're saying they're doing everything they can to find the assassin. And then, you know, there's these wanted flyers and the wanted flyers are very much giving like, have you guys found them? Cause like we haven't found him and he's like,

I spend most of my day in line looking at my phone. Like I'm not looking around. Like I haven't seen him. You find them. And everyone's like, I don't know where he's at. And then this chicken McDonald's like,

Had I seen this guy, I don't think I would have known I saw him. Like, I think there's more to it than that. I think, like, they were in cahoots or something. Well, there's a little conspiracy going around that since they think he wanted to be caught at that McDonald's, he, like, tipped off the worker so she could get money. Like, not saying he knew her, but he was just like, yeah, I'm going to help you out. Like, I'm kind of in this because corporations effed me over, like,

Let me help you out a little bit. But that was just, like, a very small conspiracy I saw on TikTok that some people have been thinking. Like, he purposely, like, told them. I could kind of get behind that, though. Like, I think that... I do think he wanted to get caught. Yeah. But I do... I do think, like, he would go to somewhere like McDonald's and tip off the worker. I think it's ironic that his profile picture on YouTube was, like, with the McDonald's box. Yeah. Like...

I don't we know this guy's not an idiot like he's Ivy League educated did you oh sorry no go ahead did you see were you able to watch his YouTube videos because I couldn't find his channel anywhere when I looked it up they took it down because he said he was like saying that he was going to drop another video and then YouTube like banned his channel

What the heck? I was so... Because I know December 11th was the day that he was going to drop another video. And I was like trying to figure out if he dropped it. But I couldn't. I literally couldn't find his channel to save my life. But that makes sense why I couldn't. Yeah, I was very sad about that. And at the time, like, I want to hear more from him. I hope he keeps his cool. The video I saw of him getting out of the police car, he was like really yelling a lot. And I... Because people are watching him right now. And...

You know, there's like... You can't do cold-blooded murder. You cannot do that. But I do see in the comments... I love the comment section on this thing. People are like, okay, well, he kills, you know, hundreds of thousands of people. And it's just like this very... Like, the nation is...

The comment section are so divided on it. Like some people are like, he's our hero. And some people are like, you can't murder somebody. And then people comment back to the people who say you can't murder people and say like he murders, you know, millions because he denies them insurance. And it's just like this whole, it's fascinating to follow. And on top of all that, he's like some good looking kid. So people are like obsessed. Right. I know everyone's like Cooper Koch has another role to play. He played Eric Menendez.

In the documentary. He looks like he could play him. He does look like he could play him. But no, that is the one thing that makes me so sad is people like praising him. And because like, that's just the only thing is I never want our world to turn into a place where they think that murder is the only answer that murder is.

OK, to commit to get something passed or done, because that's scary. Like if people start to see that people are getting praised for murder, it's going to become more common or more people do it. And it's like this man, like the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, granted, they've done a lot of horrible things, but he was still a person. He has a kid or kids. He has a wife like he's gone now. Like and that's really sad. And it makes me sad that a lot of people don't.

are praising someone for taking a life. So I completely agree with you and know that that is the, like, level-headed response, okay? And the correct response because, like, you cannot murder people. Yeah. I just do hope our government or, like, whoever's supposed to do this, I don't even know if it's the government, I think it was the only way to get their attention. Like, while he's a person, like, so is the person who gets denied all this coverage and, like, can't afford...

you know what what's the stat 85 of cancer patients go bankrupt you know and so it's like they'll they'll risk the house for that coverage and

I know that, like, a lot of people can't get their health care, and so, like, they end up dying, right? And it's, like, the answer can never be murder. Like, it can... You're right. Like, it cannot be. But, like, who was going to pay attention to it otherwise? It's so messed up how messed up our health care system is. Like, oh, my God. Especially compared to other countries. I'm just, like, we... I don't even know where we would begin to fix it, but...

And I don't have much to say than it is just like so unbelievably messed up how corrupt and backwards our system is. Like even for like someone like me with such few illnesses, you go in to get checked half the time. Your insurance doesn't cover anything. You're like, what's the point of insurance then? And like you're an insured person. Yeah. Like it's crazy. Yeah.

Like one of my friends, she has a lot of heart issues and the battles she has had with almost every procedure to get it covered is insane. Like she'll send me the bills and I'm like, that's six digits. And she's like, yep, for one procedure and they don't want to cover it. It's just incredible. And she's like a fully insured person. And it's just so sad. Yeah.

It's so sad. Like, I don't understand it. Okay. Like I have no, you're right. Like I have no idea how, what, I don't even know where we begin. I just do know, like it would be so frustrating and like the answer cannot be murder, but it like, so somebody has to pay attention to these things like before it gets this bad. Right. And it's like, you guys are making so much money. These healthcare systems like do better.

It'll be the most fascinating trial of all time though because they're going to have to strategically pick this jury that will a jury convict him? It depends who they get because also the case they make will be incredibly – like the judge, I don't know. I got to watch it all because I think it's like a really telling time in America where –

It's like I do. You can't murder. OK, it's still like that's the bottom line is you can't murder. But like it is sort of fascinating. It begs a fascinating point. And then you got the gun violence argument. I mean, it's like a bunch of arguments wrapped into one. What's the movie with Jessica Chastain where she was a gun gun violence lobbyist and like ironically ended up in a gun violent like it was a very feels like that movie. I don't know. Sounds like a good movie, though.

Oh my God. It's a great movie, but yes, Sloan. Yes. Miss Sloan. That's what it was. Yeah. Fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I actually was thinking about that the other day, how juries get picked now, because with how much we're like thrown on social media, like how do you pick someone who isn't already, who are like, it hasn't already picked an opinion on like big cases. Yeah. And like, are, is it confirmation bias? And it's like, this hits the mainstream news before it goes to trial. And like,

How are you going to figure that out? And like this guy, like he had 500 Twitter followers and then like in a couple of hours had over like 300,000. And it's like the social media component of these cases is scary. Like it's a very interesting time we're living in. These history books are going to have a hard time telling it. Yeah, juries are fascinating. I saw a movie called The Second Juror and like long story short, it's just about like you really just like

get an in-depth look on how a jury chooses if someone's innocent or guilty. But I... This is so dumb of me, but I didn't realize it has to be a unanimous vote. So, I mean, if you're dealing with this case for too long, it'd be so easy for you to be that one person and be like, fine, I'll say he's guilty if you guys all do so we can go home. Like...

That was like the argument. The lady was like, I have kids. I want to go home. People are like, this is a man's life. And she's like, I have a life. It was just like mind blowing to me. I was like, what the heck? No, it is crazy. And then like also when it gets to juries, like the optics of like somebody being more of like the leader can like persuade the rest of them. It's like, can they think for themselves? Like,

We're putting somebody's whole entire life trajectory in the hands of like random people. Yeah. Who don't even care. Like they could care less about the person potentially getting convicted. Have you ever gotten jury duty? No. Have you? No. Knock on wood. Yeah. No. I'd like to get this case though. No, you could be gone for a long time.

That's true. And you can't talk to anybody, right, while you're on it? Like, don't you have to, like, stay isolated? I mean, I think it depends on the case. But in this case, yeah, you probably would be put in a hotel room and you wouldn't be able to talk to anyone. And it's like a bugged hotel room where, like, they really do scream your calls? Yeah, and they remove the TVs and everything. Like, good old-fashioned magazines from the past or books you'd be reading.

And it's like your civil duty to like have to carry that out, right? Yeah. Like you can go to jail for like corrupting it or not carrying it out. Or like if you were caught on the phone with someone giving you like intel from the outside. Crazy that we've, I've like never met anyone that's even had like an intense jury duty, I don't think. Well, I'm actually, you have? Oh, Adam, the producer here said he has.

That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. I just like so fascinating. I don't know anyone either. I would I think about it a lot and I would actually be scared in a big case like that. Because what if you were the jury for like, for example, in your you watched Your Honor, right? Yes. And it was like, was the mafia? No. Cartel? Mafia? Drug? Mafia. Mafia. Like,

If they could get the names of all the jurors and if they found out you said he was guilty, like they could come after you. Like I think about that with so many high level cases or like even OJ Simpson, he had money. Like he could have figured out who or what or like the Menendez brothers. Like I don't want to be associated with any of that. Like I would be really afraid. No, it's it is fascinating. It's like the Boeing guy, like the whistleblower winds up dead.

yeah before he's supposed to be like before he was to give his whatever at trial like like I know we make movies about that stuff but to a certain extent they get that they get that from somewhere yeah like but like I like with this guy I don't know I would be so I can't wait to watch the trial do you think you'll you'll be live I don't know parts of it maybe I hope I can't wait this trial I saw oh sorry

I saw they denied its bail and then one of my friends posted like smart of them because the gays would have paid it immediately because he's like so cute. That's so bad. I can't remember the last time we've had a massive trial that's like that people because you look at a lot of documentaries and you're like, wow, like the whole world watched that, waited for that.

And now this is going to be one of those trials where we're like on our toes waiting for his sentence or if he's innocent or guilty. I mean, because I haven't seen the internet this involved. You know, there were memes flying. I don't think people know. Because it does like this one really makes you think. Yeah. It like messes with your conscience. Or not conscience. Yeah. Your mind.

Your morals, your psyche, your whatever. I don't know. And like him, I don't know why the most, and he's like from a prominent family, you know? And like, I guess they said he's anti something, but like his Twitter, this guy, I can't figure out. He's complex in and of himself. Like not everything adds up to what you would think is

Yeah. Pete's really into it. Every day he gets home from work and he like spews facts at me about it. And then I, so I started getting into it and I was watching like a two part series on it on TikTok. And this girl just like gave me all the details. And I was like, holy crap. Now I'm like really involved. I'm interested now. It's funny too. Like, did you see all the people being like, oh wait, I didn't think we were going to find him. Like, I can't believe like one of us is the one that told like, we were just going to leave that to the cops.

I can't with people no one is like you can never like I don't think anyone can get away with anything these days like it's impossible let me ask you this do you think it looks like the photo I saw of him I keep going back and comparing it like his nose looks pointier in the photo that the police had versus like actually Luigi so do you think that there's a chance they got the wrong guy

No, I mean, now, I mean, he had the manifestos. It really seems like it was him. But then it also seems like our guy that really did do it also was in cahoots with Luigi and, like, maybe gave him the manifesto. I don't know. He just doesn't look identical to me to the guy that did it. Like, there is a little question. Interesting. And then you would start to think, like, what would be the motive for someone taking the fall? Yeah, I think that there's, like, some interesting... I don't know. I just don't think it's as simple as...

what we already know. I think there's like a little more to it. Man, I love conspiracy theories and stuff like this. I think it's so, they're so interesting. Well, and I'm real mad at YouTube because I would have loved to have seen the video. I know. I was really bummed. I, like I remember last night peeping, like I'm so interested in what's going to come out tomorrow. And then I looked this morning and I was like, oh, I can't find it anywhere. And I assumed they took it down.

Yeah, they took it down in like, but so far, like he got caught at McDonald's where he clearly meant to get caught. Yeah. Which I think, I think was like a corporation move. And then I just, I wanted to see his YouTube video. Cause like, I wonder what he would have said today. I don't know. You would think that there'd be someone out there that could hack it and put it back up. I'm surprised that no one was able to. Yeah. And I'm a little mad. He didn't have a friend on call. Like, Hey, if my YouTube channel goes down, you post it. Right. Right.

Like, do you have a TikTok account you want to like throw up or something? I mean, yeah. Like you might as well monetize it. I'm like, I'm so interested. Yeah. So I guess we'll see, but we'll follow, we'll follow the trial closely. Yeah. I know. And like next week when we record, I'm sure like a whole new, so much more stuff will come forward. Allegedly. I do think he's the guy. Allegedly. He's the guy. Who knows? Okay. So listener question. Ready? Yes. Yes.

All right. Do you guys think that once a man is in a relationship, the girlfriend should take over buying things like underwear and cologne instead of his mom? Is it weird for moms to keep buying those things, especially for men in their 20s or older? Personally, I feel a bit awkward about the fact that my boyfriend's mom still buys his underwear and cologne. I don't think it's my place to say anything to her and I don't care that much, but it does feel a little weird for me.

For most holidays or birthdays when we exchange gifts, I usually include both items in a little gift basket. But his mom still gets them both for Christmas. So my question is, at what age or stage of life should a man tell his mom to stop buying those things for him? Or is it really weird after all? This question made me laugh because my mom literally buys my brother underwear for every single holiday. But does he have a girlfriend? He does now.

Oh, so will Tracy buy? Is she coming home for Christmas? She is actually. Yeah. I like wonder if your mom that would be you should ask your mom. Like, did you still get cold underwear? So she did. And then my mom, my brother over Thanksgiving, my brother's like, oh, I bought new underwear. And my mom was like, oh, crap. Like, I got you underwear for Christmas. And he was like, well, I don't need it anymore. So she returned it. And in my head, I'm like, oh, he's buying new underwear for the girlfriend. Yeah.

Well, 100% he is. Like, 100% he is. That's like... I think that, yeah, once you get a girlfriend, I think that the mom should stop buying the underwear. And whatever, I guess. It's like a weird gift. The reason why my mom does it for my brother is because my brother's...

so high maintenance and he gets Lululemon boxers. So they're like 80 bucks. So he's like, yeah, of course I'm going to ask for those for the holidays. But like if Colton was like wearing gilded or like Hanes, my mom was buying them now. I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah. Like I wonder, yeah, I think that,

It would be a natural thing to stop doing And then the girlfriend The girlfriend stage is weird Like once you're engaged in things Like I do think that's when like she takes over Like I don't know Also just like buy them yourself That's kind of like where I'm at actually with it It's kind of like get them yourself Yeah like I'm I'll never buy Pete like Like I said like his guild Is it Gildan whatever Haynes But like I did for Christmas And I can say this because I'll give him this gift

I'm giving him his gift this Saturday. I got him like Skims underwear because I was like, oh, cool. Skims just came out with underwear. Like it's just like a little like stocking stuffer, but only for the fact that they're like super nice underwear. But I'm like, I would never buy him his crappy underwear, but I would buy him cologne. Like I think that's a great girlfriend gift because like you want to like the way your boyfriend smells.

Yeah and I also So I'm so down on the cologne I'm also not opposed to like a mom buying a cologne And like I don't I like don't mind the mom doing it From a place of just like I wanted to get you these I mind it from a place of like They're incapable Yes I agree

Because you know like if she's just doing it because she knows but like he also can like figure out how to get his own underwear but not like you're still mommy's little boy. Do you know what I mean? Yeah because cologne is such an easy gift for a mom to get their son for Christmas. Like I know last year I think Pete's Pete got like a like a kit maybe it was like a couple years ago he got like a kit of his like his favorite Kelvin Klein but it was like four different ones and like great stocking stuffer just throw it in but like

He didn't get it because he's incapable. He was just like, I don't know what to tell my mom to get me. Exactly. Like in that regard, it's like, yes, but not in the regard of like, oh, I need more underwear, but I know my mom's going to get it for me. Like not that energy, but the energy of like, yeah, guys are hard to shop for. So like it does make an easy gift. Exactly. So, um, yeah. Um, I think you have one minute. What's your rec? Oh, um,

My rec is skinny jeans. I think skinny jeans are back.

Love it. I think Morgan Stewart would totally agree. I was going to say, so I have been having such a hard time finding jeans that just fit my body type well that I love. And I remember back in the day, I was like, I used to love wearing jeans. I used to be so confident, comfortable in them. And then, you know, like the boy style kind of came in and high waisted. And I just like lately been buying jeans and I'm like, I don't like how these fit on me. I feel like

I like my legs. Like they're long. So I want to be able to like show them off, but like you can't really in boy jeans. And I finally was just like, what am I missing? Like what, what, what the heck? So I went and you can't even get them in the stores because that's how like not in style they are. I went to Abercrombie. I was like, do you guys have any skinny jeans on, on the floor? And they're like, no, you have to get those online. So I ordered them online. I have them on today. So comfortable. They're so cute. And then I thought about it. I was like,

I feel like Alex would, you look, I mean, I don't know if I've ever seen you in denim skinny jeans, but I've seen you in a lot of like skinny jeans things and they look so good on you. And it's like you have really long legs. And I'm like, I feel like they, they're, they're our jean. They're our style.

Totally and our girl Morgan is also with you on these skinny jeans So I'm like none of my jeans fit yet but like I do love a skinny jean Because long-legged people should wear skinny jeans they make your legs look longer And with a boot or like a kitten heel flats easy Completely agree love it And they're really comfortable Great rec So yeah what's yours? Yeah

Mine is Our Little Secret. It's the Christmas movie with Lindsay Lohan. Like, it's just a brain break. But like, I... Steven from Olipop said he hated it, so I almost didn't watch it. I loved it. Loved it. I... I didn't mind it. I don't love Christmas shows, but I love the cast. Like, I love Lindsay Lohan. I love Kristen Chad's... Chad's... Chad's... Chenoweth? And I love... Chenoweth? Chenoweth, yes. And I love...

I always say Ezra from Pretty Little Liars. I don't know his real name, but he was Logan. It was just like a good cast. Yeah. And it was just like, it wasn't so cheesy that it was, it was good for those kinds of Christmas movies. Like I did enjoy it. Yeah. No, that's a great, that was a great Christmas rec. If you want a good Christmas movie, I think Harrison would really like it too. On Hulu, The Nutcracker with Ben, or Nutcrackers with Ben Stiller.

It was actually a great movie. It was so funny. He's back. Ben Stiller's back. Ben Stiller's funny. I will watch this immediately. I did not know that was out. Yes, it's I couldn't tell you the last movie Ben Stiller's been in, but I watched it and I was like Pete and I both were like, wait, this was like actually really funny. I will literally watch that tonight. I had no idea. Amazing. Harrison would like it too. It's like a it's like a boy ish Christmas movie.

Great rec. Thank you for that. Needed a good one. Okay. That's all we got. Okay. All right. Well, amazing. Well, we love you guys. Okay. We'll talk to you guys next Monday. Bye.

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