Splitting the holidays with your partner, Christmas cards & throwing up in a bush
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I've seen people throw up before and it like hasn't hit me like this but I haven't seen somebody throw up since I've been pregnant and like it I was like salivating like warm and I was just like whoa and like I didn't feel good for like

the whole day. I think Christmas cards are so much fun and it's like the one time a year that we do like tangible mail. I was going to ask you before I realized you were mailing them out if you were going to mail them out because I didn't know people still did that. This baby's like, I really want to catch the elf on the shelf like with my nana, like my baby cam, you know. And he did a fishing pole and made the elf like fly. That's dedication. Welcome back to another episode of Mean Girl Pod.

Happy holidays. I can't believe that Christmas Eve is tomorrow and Christmas Day and Hanukkah are on Wednesday. How inclusive of you. Thank you. I know my therapist is Jewish and I was like, I saw her today and I was like, happy Hanukkah on the 25th of December. And she was like, thank you. And I was like, I know, I know.

I know all about that Hanukkah. I'm with it. I know. She's like, wow, I feel so included. Yeah, it's wild. I feel like, okay, do you know what I feel like happened? I think October hit and everyone was like, it's fall. We've been waiting on the holidays. And then I feel like,

They, one, they flew by. Two, like, I had these big plans to, like, deck the halls. And I got sort of, I got, like, 70% of it done. But what I thought I was on track for in October was, like, 100%. And I did not, I didn't quite get there. Well, there just wasn't enough time between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Like, we usually have that extra week.

And I haven't done anything Christmasy. I haven't seen the tree. I haven't gone to a Christmas market because like I literally when this episode comes out, I'll be in Florida for the like pretty much the rest of the year. And I'm like, I don't think I'm going to have time. No, I know I won't have time to do any Christmas stuff in New York City. I mean, I if there was what's your number one New York Christmas thing, though, if you could do one.

Probably see the tree. I mean, seeing that tree in person is so magical. It is just insane when you get up close to it. It truly is. And like, it's so crowded around it, but it doesn't matter. I would go every year to the crowds and stand there and like, and what makes up for the crowds is the magic of the tree. Like it's breathtaking. Well, when I first moved to New York for my first year,

Two years? Yeah, two years. I lived very close to the tree, so it was such an easy walk. Now, I live on the Upper West Side, so it's kind of hard to get to. Like, you have to stop in Times Square, and Times Square around the holidays, like, I'm just trying to avoid that whole area at all costs. I mean, no question. And, um...

Did you see where they got the tree this year? Before I tell you where they got the tree this year, let's talk about your monster choice of the week. Oh, yes. Your holiday cheer monster. I've been waiting so I can crack this open. Let's see if you can hear it this time. Okay. Oh, I just let it explode and spill on my pants. No, I'm okay. It just spilled all over me. Oops. Thank God I'm wearing my...

When before you, sorry, I'll get into my monster for a second, but I do have a question for you. When you're about to go on a trip, do you sit out like dirty clothes? Like, you know, no matter what you won't pack. So they're just like your leftover dirty clothes. Like I'm wearing leftover dirty clothes. I've worn these sweatpants like four days in a row. Like who cares if they get dirty? And I'm wearing our old mean girl pod crew neck. Like I'm not packing this.

I would rather get something dirty that's already dirty. That's best case scenario. Okay, tell us about your obvious choice of the favorite. So obviously I have to go out with a bang at the end of the year with my favorite monster flavor, which is the Monster Energy Zero Ultra, a.k.a. the White Monster. If I had to pick, it's a hard decision, but I think this is my most... Is it drink?

Most drank? Most drank Monster flavor of 2024. The white one. I believe that that is accurate. And I also think I forgot what I was going to say. Oh, yeah. If we had to describe your year in review, this is the number one. This is your Monster. This is your final choice. And I need it. I need it this week. It was the full moon two days ago or yesterday. So my sleep has just been not going well.

And I'm a tired, tired girl. That's not good, but at least you have Monster to get you through the holidays. Thank you. I could not agree more. I love my Monster. And I'll be drinking this in Florida too because it's going to be warm in Florida and I love a cold caffeinated beverage when I'm in warm weather. It's just going to be so great. I love that. I'm all about it for you. Wait, I have a question for you because it reminded me of something that I said about the dirty clothes. How often do you wear your leggings?

Before you wash them. Well, that's a great question. It depends if I'm sweating or not. But if I'm just, if I'm not like, if I'm profusely sweating and they're like wet at all, they get washed immediately. But if I'm like just like walking around the house and things, I'll go like, I go like a week. So I would say four or five wears.

Thank you. Me too. I do the exact same thing. And I stated that and Pete thought it was disgusting. But I think that New York just made me a little bit of a grosser person when it comes to washing clothes because I don't have a washer and dryer accessible to me. If I had one in my unit, I would be washing clothes every day. I'm washing stuff left, right, and center. And it was not always that way because I do think like,

Listen, there was a time in New York where like if I was like out of socks, they were getting Amazon. Do you know what I mean? And it's like those socks weren't necessarily getting washed. It's not environmentally friendly. Okay, but whatever. I was just doing what I could. Those socks were just kind of getting pushed to the wayside and like a new pack of like $5.99 socks would arrive because it's just easier. Oh my God. When I first moved to New York, we didn't even have laundry in our basement and

So I remember walking once a week to a laundry place that would like a full a clean and fold. And I don't know how I physically did that. I would walk it like half a mile and then carried up six flights of stairs. Like who was I? Because I can't imagine ever doing that again in my entire life.

No, but, and you're like, if, if you're not doing it, no one is. Do you know what I mean? Like you're, you like get your doctor check things and like, you're, you know, you're like a person of society that's like pretty regimented and like would go get your laundry weekly. But like if it, if it annoys you, it's like, imagine. Well, and like,

You almost had to do it weekly because I remember my roommate, she was not. And she would be carrying, I swear to God, like 10 pounds of laundry. And I was like, I physically can't carry that much. Like, I have to go because I have to keep it a light load. And it's also just so expensive. You're spending like 30 bucks, maybe 40. I can't remember how much it was to do your laundry. Well.

And then, you know, I read, and this is what grossed me out, was that they're mass washing it and like it's not even clean. Like your clothes aren't actually clean if you send them out to be done. And like I heard that once and could never unhear it. I mean, but you even see people at home doing their laundry. I had a friend, there was that detergent, that like extracting detergent that came out.

And I remember one of my friends put all their clothes after they had just washed it and dried it. They put it in the bathtub and they put this like extracting detergent in the bathtub with it. And the bathtub was brown. Like we're not actually like, like nothing is really clean. I don't think, I don't know. I don't know the ins and outs of it. I'll never feel like my clothes are clean until I get a brand new washer and dryer myself. Cause even when I do laundry in our shared bathroom,

washer and dryer in the basement that they probably had the same washer and dryer for 20, 30, 40, 50 years. Smells like mold and mildew. I'll never feel like my clothes are clean until I have my own because I swear those just like

A washer and dryer cannot go through that much use. I mean, they probably do like 10, 15 loads a day every single day. Like they just cannot be working properly. I mean, I completely agree. Yeah. So that's an exciting Christmas topic about your dirty laundry. Speaking of dirty laundry, it looks like throw up might be your thorn of this week. It is. I wanted to change my...

I like wanted to change my now. I had my new thorn this morning and

But this, this specific thorn was, I was walking to Tate, like woke up one morning. I don't know. So I was like on a walk at like sun up when here in Austin to, it was on Saturday morning to this coffee shop that's near here called better half. And I also live by like some bars and there was a girl wearing like her, um, night before outfit. And

And she was walking home and I like saw her throw up in a bush and it's, and it would, that's not my thorn because I thought that was very funny. But what it, what the adversarial reaction it caused in me, like I've seen people throw up before and it like hasn't hit me like this, but I haven't seen somebody throw up since I've been pregnant. And like it, I was like salivating like warm and I was just like, whoa. And like, I didn't feel good for like the whole day. So I don't know. It just did something to me, which like typically I can stomach watching somebody throw up.

Oh, I don't know. That was sad. I don't know if I've ever seen anyone throw up. Maybe like in the toilet. I'm holding my friend's hair back, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone like have it come out of their mouth in person. And that makes me feel nauseous.

I've seen somebody like be sick, right? Like they have the flu or something or food poisoning and like it just – it comes on really quick. I've seen that and then I've seen people like drunkenly throw up in the toilet. Yeah. I've seen people from afar throw up in a bush. Like I did see that in college, I guess. Yeah. We had stronger stomachs in college. Exactly. Like there was something about me being on like my brisk walk and then this happening and I was just like, wait, wait, wait, wait. And then like I was like, ugh. So –

But my new thorn today was I was on a walk this morning, again to a coffee shop, and I had Tate with me, and it just started like really raining. And the coffee shop I was going to doesn't have inside seating. It's just like counter service. And so I was like 20 minutes away from like kind of anywhere, and I thought –

It was such an odd thing because, like, she didn't... Like, she was just getting, like, pelted. And I was thinking... I was just, like, stuck. I was like, wait, what do I do? What did you do? So we, like, got under an awning and just, like... We got underneath, like, one of those smaller awnings and I just, like, put the stroller here and, like, I held her and we just, like, waited for 15 minutes. But I was like...

I was so caught. I don't know. It just sort of threw me off guard. I hadn't really thought about that being a factor. You guys, one thing's for sure, and that is that we all love a little bit of luxury in our lives. But what you shouldn't have to do is pay an arm and a leg for it. And you guys, our new sponsor, Quince, has nailed cashmere, has nailed purses, has nailed these luxurious items. But the price is so affordable. But the quality does not sacrifice. Jordan and I are obsessed with this. I have...

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It doesn't. It's so not fun there. Like it is because you don't want to stay in your apartment, right? Because everyone's apartments are like so small. So it's miserable to be at home. And then like you don't want to walk to somewhere. You don't want a subway because it smells like it's just a disaster. Well, and then all the public transportation, even though it's underground, is backed up, which is so odd. It's just a madhouse. But it's 50 degrees here today, I will say. So I'm like, I was like sweating wearing a jacket here.

That's so lovely. Yeah, I like ran here. I was so flustered because my, my subways, my subway decided to skip a stop. I hate when that happens. And I hate when they do that. I tried to like walk farther than I anticipated walking. And I was like, I was like, we're recorded. I gotta get there in time.

The subway just like randomly deciding to skip stops can like drastically make or break someone's day by like 25 minutes. Like you can't just skip a stop. No. And it was at the point where it was like, okay, either skip this or either get on the subway that the stops being skipped at and then just like walk that extra mile.

I don't know how long it is maybe a half mile or get off wait for the next subway but then wait like 10 minutes so it's like I'm gonna be short 10 minutes anyways might as well be walking doing it versus just standing in like the hot subway no like no question is that your thorn no my thorn is I don't okay so this happens a lot but it's been happening a lot more lately

When you try to fall asleep, have you ever had just like a song being played in your head over and over and over again and it won't ever leave? Yes. I think it's called something, but that's been happening to me so much lately where I literally be laying in bed. It's just like a TikTok song playing over and over and over in my head. And I'm like, please shut up.

I will be curious to hear if anybody else is having this problem right now because I have had a notable amount of songs stuck in my head the past week. Like notable. No, same. Like Pete's even like, why are you singing so much? And I'm like, it's like this record that just keeps playing. I can't make it stop. Yes. Yes. Like definitely.

But it's like modern music. Jelly Roll and the MGK song was like one of them. But then this morning it was like, here comes the boom. And I'm like, why? Why are you in my head? Get out. Here comes the boom was stuck in my head all last week. I was like doing the dance with it. Shut up. I have all TikTok songs stuck in my head. I have Messy, the song Messy stuck in my head where it's like, I'm too messy. And then I'm too. Yes. That song nonstop.

And it's the same song, right? Is it the same exact song in the same part? Yeah, it's so weird. It's so weird. So that's my thorn of the week, just like falling asleep to constant. And it's like a loop of like, like you said, like three to six seconds of that song. Yes. And it's just like, oh my gosh. So frustrating. What's your- They say if you- Oh, sorry. No, you go.

Well, they say if you have you ever tried listening to the song, they say it gets the song out of your head. I did it with the MGK Jelly Roll one. It did get it out of my head, but I'm not going to like turn on Here Comes the Boom. Harrison would be like, what are you listening to? I'm just getting out of my head. You know, I love I love the the boom guys and like the Rizzler.

Okay, I don't know anything about the Riz. I don't know what the Rizzler is. I don't know what it means to have Riz. Like, I'm so confused, and I keep hearing this term, the Rizzler and Riz, and like, I don't know. Do you know who the Boom Guys are? No. So...

So the Boom guys are just a father-son duo that tries food and they either give it a Boom or a Doom. So if it's great, they'll be like, that gets a Boom! And then they'll be like, that gets a Doom! But they're viral. I mean, they went on Jimmy Fallon. They're really known for going to Costco and trying all the Costco chicken bake things. But the Rizzler is like this little boy and

He's like part of their squad now and he just like has this like Rizzler dance where he has like Riz. It's the funniest thing. Well, to have Priscilla put up a clip of it because it kills me. Is he is this Rizzler guy where the term she's got Riz came from or is that separate? No, I feel like the term she's got Riz came from like TikTok back in like 2022. I feel like Riz was like a term the Gen Z's were using a few years ago.

Is that why his name is the Rizzler? Yeah, I think he was saying like he has Riz, especially when he does his dance. So they nicknamed him the Rizzler, even though he's like an eight year old boy. Okay. Okay. I've got to look him up.

I'll send you a TikTok. I want to look all this up. I'll just send you a TikTok where he got famous. It's of him wearing a child's Spider-Man costume. And he's a big boy. And I mean that in the nicest way possible. Like, he is. It doesn't fit him, but it's for his age group. And it's just the cutest, funniest video I've ever seen. So I'm going to send that to you.

Okay. I want to see that. Yeah. Send me that. It's the internet is so large that like these guys are on Jimmy Fallon. Like I've never even heard of them. I've heard of the, I've heard Rizzler somewhere. Oh my God. It kills me. Um, so what's your, uh, Rosa this week? My Rose is that it's Tate's three month. And I just like, I don't even want to talk about it too much because I'm like,

You know, like the first month flew by months two and three went like a little slower. She's like starting to like she I think she had her first laugh yesterday. I think it was like a full blown laugh. And she like knows us like she knows when we're over her in the morning. She like smiles and it's like the sweetest thing on the planet. But I'm like, how has it already been three months? So the picture you sent me, I think Harrison was holding her. I like cannot get over how much of a personality she had on her face.

I know it. She's really like starting to have one and laugh and like she's engaging. It's like she knows where she's at and it's really it. It is rewarding, which is nice. Like it's so rewarding to have her respond to you and like be happy and to coup and things like that. So like that is it's like the best thing on the planet.

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And now you get to celebrate her first Christmas and Hanukkah. It's going to be so fun. And New Year's Eve. And she has her Hanukkah PJs. Yeah, and her first, I know, I know. And I'm kicking myself. I'm like, how did we not do Elf on the Shelf? But we'll do it next year and she'll actually know. Yeah, it's actually incredible that next year she'll be a year and a couple months and how much more of a human being she'll be. I mean, she'd be like walking and like saying words.

She can point at the elf on the shelf. Have you seen some of these parents with this elf on the shelf situation? It's wild. It is unbelievable. And then have you seen the kids being like, I want to catch the elf on the shelf, like on my camera. And so the parents are like having to the, so like this one baby, it went viral. I'm on like baby talk, you know? So that's, I got this video. They were like,

This baby's like, I really want to catch the elf on the shelf, like with my Nana, like my baby cam, you know? And the parents were like, we're not going to like tell her no, because it's really cool that she wants to try to catch it, but like she can't catch it because it's us. So then the dad was like, well, you know what I'll do, honey? I'll record it on my phone so you can keep the camera in your room. And so then like the dad set up his phone and he did a fishing pole and

And made the elf, like, fly. Yeah, he, like, went all into it. And it was really sweet. And the next morning, she's, like, watching the elf on the... And she's like, oh, my God, it can fly. Like, no, it's so sweet. That's, like... That takes all night. That's dedication. I've seen the ones where, like, the parents, like, draw on the kid's face. And then they leave a note. And they're like, the elf did it. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, imagine, like, your childhood. That's so... I saw this guy doing...

Like he had a powdered sugar and he was doing his footsteps and he was shaking the powdered sugar around it. So it looks like Santa's footsteps. And the comment section was like, my parents did this for me when I was little and like I still remember it. And I think it's like so sweet how you can really impact them. Oh, I love that. That's really cute. Yeah. That'll be you and Harrison. You know, Harrison will go all in next year.

Oh my gosh, he's already going like, he wants to make her like a gingerbread house, which is cute. I'm like, please do it. It reminds me though of my wreck. Okay, this Christmas reminds me of this. So one, I watched The Nutcracker with Ben Stiller. It is phenomenal. Oh yes, and I forgot, I wrecked that for you last week. It is such a good movie. It was really good. Like in general, it's a good movie. Yeah, it was really cute.

I thought it was so cute. And then, and I, and he, I think he looks good. Like he's aged really well. And like, I thought he played the character really well. That's like a different role for him. I really liked it. I'm curious. I'm like, where have you been these past 10 years? I wonder that about like that whole group, like Ben Stiller. I know what Cameron Diaz has been up to, but like Cameron Diaz, Kate Hudson, Owen Wilson, like that whole crew, like where have you guys been? What have you been doing?

Did you see Kate Hudson singing? What's the Mariah? She's got some pipes on her. She's she's a very good singer. I think that's like what she's kind of trying to do now. I think she's still acting, obviously, but I think she wants to pursue music.

So speaking of this like group you're talking about, I feel like where they've been is like they all made it. And then they're like family people now with like, you know, they had like a really good amount of success. And like they're not like always in the spotlight. Like I feel like they didn't let fame get to them where as like, for example –

I don't know. I'll throw Scott Disick into the ring randomly. You know, like somebody that's like constantly having something kind of like come up about him where it's been stiller. He like got to do his, I feel like they were like true actors and that was like their craft. And then they kind of like retreated back.

Yeah. And I'm but I'm just like so curious. Like, do you think that they had side projects? Like we're just hanging with the kids started a little business. Like I know Cameron started a wine company. I've had her wine. It's really good. And like Kate's been in a few movies here there. But I always am curious, like, what are you guys doing? Or is like the wife or the husband? Are they are they the breadwinners? Like, I want to know what you guys have been up to.

I think Kate Hudson is like from her Instagram. Well, she's got fabletics, but it feels like she's all in on mom and fabletics is what I think she's doing. I love that. But can't you see Ben Stiller though? I think he's producing and like, I bet he has some investment somewhere. Yeah, that's so true. They, I feel like they probably all do a lot of like producing and writing and maybe some directing. And royalties. I mean, they're just making bank.

But I did see, I saw Jim Carrey said that he took a role and he said like, they were like, why are you coming back? Like you've been out of the spotlight. And he like also hated on Hollywood for a while. Yeah, he scares me. He scares me too. But he was like, I took the role like frankly, I need the money. Like I bought a lot of stuff and like I need the money. But like I can so see, I can so see him going in like spending all of his money as opposed to...

A Ben Stiller who I feel like grew into like a mature adult. I don't know how else to say it. Yeah, I mean like we grew up with those people. There's like that crew that everyone knows of that we just, we grew up, they were in every movie. Every single movie. I also associate the blonde. Oh my God. Katherine Heigl? Yes, exactly. Her. I think she's in that crew.

Oh, yeah, for sure. Then she, I guess, got deemed as like the worst person to work for work with in Hollywood. And she was in she was on Butterfly Lane, which I really like that TV show. But that's where I think she stopped working for a bit. Yeah. People say she's really mean, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Which makes me sad. Jennifer Gardner. Do you think she's in that crew? Oh, yeah. Jennifer Hudson, Jennifer Gardner, like all those people. I feel like there's so many more, but I'm just blanking at the moment. Vince Vaughn, I think, like kind of is. Yeah, for sure. Even like Jason Bateman, he's still here. But like, yeah, all those people.

Yeah, Jason Bateman's a good one. I feel like Ben Affleck, like, was, but then he also, like, stayed in the spotlight and, like, ruffled some feathers. Yeah, he kind of, um, he kind of hurt that for himself. Yeah, he, like, was, you know, 17 photos later. That's funny. Um, my rose isn't that important, but I'll just quick throw it in here because I'm dying to, um, ask you a bunch of Christmas questions and Hanukkah questions, of course. Um...

Mine was just that I finished the whole Sarah J Maas universe, the book universe, which is if we have any book listeners, it's a really big deal because she wrote Akatar, Thorn of Glass and Crescent City. And after a year and like maybe two months, I finally finished the whole universe.

Thank you. And was it what you wanted at the end? Yes, it was very good. Akatar is still coming. Like she is planning on... I think the sixth book comes out sometime in 2025. Thorn of Glass is done. That ended a few years ago. She tied that up in a very, very lovely bow. Crescent City, I don't love. But Akatar, one of my favorite books series of all. So I really hope...

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obviously didn't read it. I thought the covers were a sensation because I saw so many people Instagramming them. Right. So I can fully know what we're talking about. And I want to, I do want to ask you this though. Do you like knowing about authors in real life? Like as a fiction reader, like I hate knowing if I'm watching Yellowstone, I don't want you to talk to me about John Dunn. I don't even want to not call him John Dunn in real life. You know what I mean? Like, do you feel the same way about authors?

Yeah, it's weird. I like don't really care about the author themselves. SJM I kind of had a fascination with because she got like famous. I mean, she blew up in 2024. So she was kind of I was looking at her as almost like a celebrity. So it was interesting to learn about her. But like other authors that I like, I could care less. I'm like, you're you, you just write the characters that I love. But you don't have like a I don't want to know so much about you because

Like, the characters, it doesn't affect the way you view the characters at all? No, not really. Like, I will say Abby Jimenez, not Jimenez, I can never pronounce her name right. She is a Minnesota-based author. Or, Julie, how do you pronounce it? Did she just say? Jimenez, she says. Something like that. I think it's how you said it. Okay. She's a Minnesota-based author and born and raised in Minnesota, writes all her books in Minnesota, so I did like knowing that, but it doesn't change my...

My view of the characters. No. Okay. That's cool. It changes mine. So I was wondering if it changed yours, but I think that's good that it doesn't. But speaking of, you just taught me every week with people we met on vacation as your plant holder on your desk. Did I tell you I read it? Like the first part of it? Yeah, but you didn't finish it.

Yeah, it's not my book. I'm just not a fiction... Like, I'm imagining it. I don't know. It's just not my... I respect that, though. It's not my jam. I like that you like nonfiction, and I like hearing you're a nonfiction wreck. So, I respect that. Thank you. I'm a memoir girl. I just am. Okay. Now we gotta get into Christmas, because we gotta talk about your Christmas card. Yes! Okay. I...

love your Christmas card and I didn't realize you were doing hard copies. I just saw what you posted on Instagram and I was like, that is a great idea. Just post on Instagram. Like that should be the new way of doing Christmas cards. And then I realized you were, you're mailing them out. And I was, I was going to ask you before I realized you were mailing them out. If you were going to mail them out. Cause I didn't know people still did that. Well, okay. I, I love Christmas cards. I love getting them. I love getting the photo for them. Um,

Picking the design for them Like I think Christmas cards Are so much fun And it's like the one time a year that we do like Tangible mail What I almost didn't do was Instagram it But I thought It felt like a sweet thing to do I loved it

Yeah, so that's why I did it because I was like, well, I want to give them a Christmas card too. I love when people show their Christmas cards that I wouldn't get in the mail. But yeah, I totally mailed out a hard copy of them because I love getting them. So I love sending them too. I'm really curious if Gen Z will continue Christmas cards because I received a lot this year from my friends and obviously...

people like family friends who are older than me because we just grew up with them but I'm so curious to see if they will be continued by the people younger than us because I want to say we're almost like the last generation who still sends them like I got a ton from my friends granted they all had kids like they're all the people who have family I didn't get any from just like like uh fiancees or like husband wife but I'm like I'm so curious to see if if there'll be like a lost art in a few years or if they will be continued

I hope that they're continued, but I could see them becoming a lost art. No, I think they'll be continued.

But I think you're right. Like, you kind of have to be in the phase of, like, in a house. Like, you wouldn't send out a solo Christmas card, really. I mean, you could. I think it'd be fabulous if you did. It'd be great, you know? Like, and you told, like, a little story on the back. But I do hope that Gen Z continues then because I think that they are something really sweet. And we don't do... Like, there's no other time of the year where you mail a mass list of people something. Yeah. I, unfortunately, won't do a Christmas card because they really stress me out. Like...

the idea of mailing them to people overwhelms me, but I really do love to receive them. Like I was so happy when I saw yours and you told me you were sending them and like the ones I've been getting, I'm like, oh my God, this is so fun. I love like opening them up and seeing everyone's little family. I think it's so cute. I love

am obsessed with looking at like did they do like I got one this year that was pink and she printed out the photos and like stuck them on there but it was like really cute the way it was done but then I also love seeing like did they do front and back what photo did they choose like I love them wait that's cute I also really like that yours wasn't Christmas colors like I loved the purple

Yeah, I wanted to go neutral on it and I put happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas because, you know, as you should. As you should. I love that. What are you guys doing for Christmas slash Hanukkah?

So, okay, so we're going to Hawaii the 27th for like the rest of Hanukkah with Harrison's family. So what we're going to do is we're going to stay in Austin. I'm very into like staying in Austin this year for holidays and like starting our own traditions. Like I feel like this year.

I look back on it and ran a marathon basically, which I did not actually run a marathon, but like I was pregnant. We moved, you know, it was, and now we have a baby, you know, and it's like, I'm tired.

And so I like loved Thanksgiving here and we're doing the same thing for Christmas. And like one, so one thing I am interested in is like setting our tradition. So like for Thanksgiving, the takeaway is the turkey trots days. And then like, are you doing a, Oh, sorry. I was just, are you doing a turkey or, um, us, whatever they're called Santa trot. Do they have those? Um, they, I know in Minnesota, they, some, I think they have, it's called the winter. It's something. Um,

They probably have one here then because it's a pretty like fit city, active city. Oh, the reindeer, the reindeer run. That's what it was called. That's a great name for it. I was going to say, surely there's a, I bet they have a reindeer run here, but no, what I, we won't do one because I think you got to like get up and see Santa. Like that Santa was there, you know, and next year we're going to have somebody that's going to wonder where Santa was. So yeah,

What we're going to do is like I want to read. I want to incorporate a story somehow. Growing up, I always read the Polar Express. So probably the Polar Express. Night before I always watch Christmas Vacation. Same. Morning of, I think like pancakes or something. Then you open the gifts that Santa brought. Then maybe go on a walk or something. And then from there, I really love going around to like...

Of like the dollar tree Or something like that And putting little envelopes Of like money And just saying like Merry Christmas on them You know And so like if somebody's Shopping that day or something Like I love like a Giving back aspect And then we'll do like A big Christmas dinner What about you? Your turn That's really fun I just have a couple Of follow up questions First Okay What island are you Going to in Hawaii? Hawaii

Maui. Okay. I've never been to Hawaii. I'm going for the first time in May for my friend's wedding, but I'm so curious. You've been before, right? Yes. I've been to Maui a couple times. I love Maui. Where are you going? Is one of the islands called Kona? Yeah. Or at least there's a Kona somewhere. We're going to that island. We're not going to Maui or what's

What's the other one that's big? Is Honolulu an island? Yeah. We're not going to either of those two. We're going to, I think it's Kona. But I'm excited because I've never been to Hawaii and it's on my bucket list. And like, what better way to go than a friend's wedding? Because you don't feel guilty spending the money. Yeah.

You like almost have to go. So you're like, oh, darn. Exactly. That's a trek for you. What's that flight going to be? Because for me, it's nine hours. That's a great question. I have a feeling it probably is a layover in LAX. Because what is it from LA? Like six hours? Yeah, five or six. Honestly, flight times until they hit like 12 don't really affect me. Just because like New York to LA is six hours.

I've been on the tarmac for like 6 30 and like like until it gets I realized to like 10 and 12 hours I'm I'm okay I would think your flight if you went direct would be like 11 though right if mine's 9 um I don't know I was shocked that mine was 11 I was or 9 I was shocked I couldn't believe it oh duh because you guys are going from Austin I'm like what do you mean how do you know that but that makes sense well what is what is Harrison's family from Canada I

But they're on the left side of Canada. So they're like seven hours or something. Oh, that's wild to think about. I just assumed it was so much farther because they're in a different country. No, there's like a whole group. That's like a very hot spot for them. They go every single year and they go for a while and a lot of their friends go too. Like there's going to be a ton of their friends that are there. It's like a thing. Oh, I love that. Because it's like a hot...

Yeah, it's like a hot destination for them. That's fun. I love that you're like able to... Sorry, I just had a brain swap where I like completely changed subjects. I love that you're staying home for Christmas because I really loved growing up that I was always home for Christmas. Like I knew a lot of my friends had to travel and they would wake up at like their grandparents or their aunt and uncles or this or that. And I'm like...

How does Santa get to your relative's house? Or they would have to do Christmas early. And I always really appreciated waking up in my own house on Christmas Eve. And I will make sure to do that for my own family because there's just something special about like waking up in your own bed and going downstairs or wherever the tree is. And I don't know. I really love that take. It's to experience that even though she can't walk.

That's a really So that's a really good point Like you know There will of course be years Where we'll travel right But I think like not living Not living in the same city As your parents Like you have to make the decision And in New York it was easy Because like we didn't have A Well one we didn't have a baby So that's like different But living in an apartment Versus like we do have our home And this is our first year in the home And so I just think it will be

I think it will be really special and I'm like, I can't wait for it. So I think that's a really good point that you made, like being in your own...

What's your stance on, and this is mainly like when you were like when you're in a relationship, not now because you have a child and like I just consider you and Harrison married. What do you, what is your stance on like what was your stance on splitting holidays when you were like younger and in just like a relationship? Would you share it with your partner or would you just spend it with your family and like they would do it with their family? Because I'm always so torn.

Okay, the only time I had to deal with this was with my ex, remember? And our families lived in the same city. So it was so easy because if we stayed at one's house, like, we still made all the Thanksgivings. You just literally drove back and forth 15 minutes. Now, if I was like you, though, where you and Pete's family live in different cities, like, I've seen friends do...

Okay. No, this, this is always my thought actually was until you were engaged or married, you went to your own homes. That was always what it, what I was like taught growing up. And then when you are married, what I've seen some friends do is like Thanksgiving one year at one house, Christmas at the other. And then they swap. So you're, you're home for Christmas every other Christmas. Now though,

I don't know. I think like if you're seriously dating somebody, you get to pick if you go home or if you go to their house or what. So let me ask you, what are you guys doing? So I'm exactly how you said it. I'm a firm believer of splitting or sorry, of doing your own holiday when you're just dating. I think once you get engaged and married, totally.

Totally different story. You do you like you're now a family. But until that happens with Pete and I, I'm so firm on like I'm not going to miss a holiday with my family. I don't want him to miss a holiday with his. It would be one thing if like our families lived in the same city. Like, for example, when I when I dated my boyfriend of five years, our parents lived very close to each other. We did do like Thanksgiving parties.

at my grandma's then we would go to his aunt's for Thanksgiving dinner but that was like easy but with Pete I just like don't want to miss out on a holiday with my family really ever and especially until we're engaged or married like I'm just not going to yeah yeah because well right now like okay

Pete is obviously like the end game, right? Yeah. And we know that. But until you're engaged or married or have a baby, my family now is the Tate and Harrison family, right? It's funny once you get married and or have a kid. I feel like that...

fit family first is like them as opposed to now for you like I I was the exact same way we're like you would go home with like your family and not miss anything I think that's like the correct mindset yeah so for like for my Christmas this year Pete and I celebrated Christmas last weekend together and we just did like a nice dinner nothing excuse me my monster is making me a little burpy yeah

Um, we just went to like a nice dinner, open presents, spent the whole day together. But I'm going to Florida tomorrow. And then he's going to come with me until the 22nd. And then he'll go home and spend the rest of the week with his family. So I'm really lucky this year that

he gets to spend a couple days with my family and my brother will be there with his girlfriend and everything so that would be a lot of fun I wish that I could spend a couple days with his family over the holidays obviously like that's very hard because I'll be in a different state but that's what we're doing for the holidays and then I'll stay in Florida for like a week straight and spend it with my family and my brother and stuff and Elroy of course and of course Elroy and so what do you guys do the night before Christmas I

So the night before Christmas, growing up, we always opened one present and then we would open like all our rest of our presents on Christmas Day. We don't do the one present anymore, but we always watch A Christmas Story, Family Vacation, and we'll usually do like appetizers and stuff.

So that's usually like our Christmas. But we're like a big Christmas Day family. We never celebrate much on Christmas Eve. Like we'll just do like a Christmas movie and apps. But like Christmas Day is like we open all the presents. My mom usually makes like a fun breakfast and then we have like a really nice dinner. Like that's our day.

Ah, see, I like love it. What's going on with your brother's girlfriend? Like, did you get her a gift? Did your mom get her a gift? Like, is she staying there for the actual day of Christmas? Yeah, so I'm really excited because this is going to be the first time ever that me or that I will be bringing a significant other the same time my brother brings a significant other. So I feel like it's my mom's Super Bowl. Like, it's only going to be...

I think Pete will only be there with her for, like, a day and a half or two days. But still, like, for two days, my mom was like, oh, my God, both my kids have –

Boyfriends and girlfriends. This is crazy. So this is Tracy's moment. Yes. So she, my brother's girlfriend is coming for the whole week, I believe, because her family doesn't live in the United States. So she doesn't get to see him. So we were like, just have her come to ours. Like, I don't think it's that big of a deal, whatever. Like she can't spend Christmas alone. So she's going to come down for the week and spend it with us. And then Pete will get to see her for like a couple of days. So I'm excited. Yeah.

Oh, presents though. Yeah. Gotta know. Gotta know this. I got my brother and her a present together to open. Smart. Because I...

I don't know her yet. If this was the second time I've met her, the second Christmas, I would get her a gift, but I'm just meeting her. So this, I don't know. It seemed weird. So I was like, Colton, I'm going to get you and her a gift together. And then my mom got her gifts. Cause it's like awkward. She's going to be there with us on Christmas day. Like she has to have gifts. And then I got her some like cute little girly stocking stuffers just like to, for her to like have. Yeah.

I love it. Okay, so wait.

So can you tell, does Colton listen to the pod? Can you tell us what you got them? Yes, I can. I don't think he listens. And no, there's no way he listens. And he's not going to listen on Monday, like when you guys are like at home. So Colton skips this if you are. I got them a couples game together. It's like this scratch off date night game where I don't exactly know how it works. It was just like the number one rated couples game on Amazon where you, I know.

know anything about her. Like my brother doesn't tell us a ton. So I was like, what could they do together? That's appropriate. So you, um, I believe the way it works is when you want a date night, you scratch off like what you're going to do, where you're going to go and like maybe how much money you'll spend or like if it's casual or not. So they, it's like,

Oh, what are we going to do tonight? They'll scratch it off. Or like, sorry, it'll be like, are we staying in or going out? We're going out, we'll scratch it off. And then like, if you're going out, what are you going to do? Scratch that off type of thing. So it's like a fun little game for them to do. Okay, that was very nice of you. Do you know what your mom got her? I'm so invested in like first time Christmases at somebody else's house. That's a great...

Question. I don't know what my mom got her. I got her like eye patches and makeup, like little, like the little things at Sephora where you can like grab, you know, like the little aisle thing, like little makeup stuff. And I got her eye patches and a few other things. I don't know. I think my mom got her maybe some like athleisure. Oh, that's nice. Wait, so you've never met her? Correct. None of us have. Your mom hasn't either? No, because he lives in San Francisco.

Yeah so wow wow okay so do we I'm so excited about this. Same I'm like I've never I've never interacted with one of my brother's girlfriends. Yeah are you gonna be like protective like really not like what are you gonna be like do we know? I'm gonna be so mean I'm just kidding I'll probably be so nice like she's my age. I've never seen him with a girl before like ever. Yeah.

This is very exciting. I mean, this like really rounds out the family tree kind of. No, like I just like I don't know even what type of boyfriend my brother is. Like, obviously, I know he's a great guy, but like, is he super protective? Is he super funny? Like, I don't know if they have like a goofy relationship, a sweet relationship. I just like don't know what to expect. Yeah. Like, is he going to put his arm around her and kiss her on the forehead? Like, wow, this is this is very fun. I don't I don't want to see that. Yeah.

Okay, so that's good to know. You don't want to see that. I don't want to see any PDA. They can hug, but I don't want to see kisses. They like make out at the table. I swear if my brother is PDA, I'm going to be so grossed out. Would you say something to him out loud? Like, ew, Colton, or no? Not in front of her, but I'd pull him aside and be like, don't ever kiss her in front of me again. This is disgusting. Okay, there we go. Now, okay, this is good. I'm trying to paint a picture in my head.

I just have like such an odd relationship though because like we're not super close but I'm also like very blunt and open with him where like I won't hold back but I see him like three times a year. Right. But I think you guys have a very solid, solid relationship. Yeah. So Pete was like, Pete was like, we should make a TikTok with them and I was like, I'm drawing the line. I don't think my brother would ever make a TikTok with them.

I'm drawing the line. Drawing the line there. I'm like, no, we're not there yet. I was like, no. He's like, it'd be fun. That is so funny. I really hope you do it because I would just love to see her. Yeah, I'm excited to see her too. I've only seen like a couple of pictures, so I'm excited. Yeah. Wow. That'll be happy holidays. Okay. That will be very good. Happy holidays indeed.

So when I get back from Christmas, I'll tell you guys all about it. But I'm excited. Most people experience, I feel like, this earlier in life. And for the Woodrow family, it's coming at the ripe age of in our 30s. The ripe age of? Can I tell you, like, I'm already...

So excited. Like when Harrison and I are like setting traditions, we're like, okay, but think about when our kids are like grown up and like they bring home their significant others. Like what traditions are we going to want to have? Like I've already skipped, you know, 25, 27 years down when I'm thinking of these traditions because it's so fun when it happens. The first thing I thought of was like when Tay gets old, she better not be going off to her boyfriends for Christmas. She's staying with you guys. She'll be...

She will be at home for every Christmas. No, literally. That's how I feel like I'll be as a parent. I'll be like, no, you're not. You're staying home with us. We're the fun family.

Yeah, that's what it is. I'm like, but here's the thing. It's yours to lose. Those holidays are like yours to lose, right? So I'm like, until she graduates college, she has to come. She doesn't have to come home for every holiday. I would love it if she did. But once she graduates college, I'll let her do her thing. But I do want to make it so fun that she cannot not come. Right? Like, I want to be the parent where I'm not forcing them, but I want them to because, like, I don't want to be my kid's, like,

best friend I want them to look at me as a mom but I want them to look as look at me as a mom is like she's my mom but also I love her I love spending time with her I can tell her anything but like we're not in the level where she's gonna let me just get like trash and like I can talk about drugs and stuff because I'll be like no you're not doing that totally like there's a level of respect but like I'm your safe zone I'm like a warm fuzzy blanket exactly so I want her to be like I want my kids to be like of course I'm going home my parents are awesome

Exactly. And I also want to have an open door policy for like if their friends from like college or something don't have somewhere to go. It's like, come on, come on over. We'll take you all. I love that. Yeah. So anyways, Merry Christmas, everyone. Merry Christmas. Should we do a listener question? Yeah, let's do a listener question. OK, I'll read it to you. OK. When do you know if it's time to call it quits?

I'm seeking relationship advice because I'm feeling defeated and lost. Hopefully my question is one that someone else understands has experienced or is experiencing. My boyfriend and I have been dating for two years. We live together. We have a dog together and basically have plans to get married and have a family one day. In recent months, we have been dealing with some lifestyle differences that have been constantly causing hostility and disappointment between us.

My main question is when you love someone, how do you know when it's time to call it quits? I can see myself with him, but I'm not sure it's my happiest potential or not. That's such a hard question because everyone goes through this. Well, let me ask you this. With Pete, do you think that you have any lifestyle differences with him? No, but I...

I will say this sounds like me with my boyfriend of five years. He was great, but we had a lot of lifestyle differences. And I feel like Pete and I don't have lifestyle differences because I really dated a lot of people along the way to figure out what I wanted. And I also waited till I was older to figure out what I truly wanted and made sure the person I was dating liked

a lot of my... Or like checked a lot of my boxes and we were compatible in serious areas like our lifestyle. What about you? See, that's what I... That's what I thought you were going to say was I feel like you and Pete have the same idea of life, which is important to understand your idea of life before you pick your person. Now, I'll speak from experience here where I...

was with somebody who I thought we had the same idea of, of life. Um, and a bunch of different buckets in terms of like location, we wanted to live, um, ambition, um, relationships with family relationships with how money's handled a bunch of like very important buckets. Like I thought that we were on the same page on those things, but, um,

the more you go and you experience real life scenarios and things like that, do you realize, wow, we might not be on the same page in terms of, what did she call it? What was her exact words? Oh, lifestyle differences. And so I feel like that's like the biggest bucket. Like if you're on different page, if you're compatible, if you're attracted to them, if you have fun with them, but you have lifestyle differences, like lifestyle differences, that is...

That's a big one. That's what made my radar go off was like lifestyle differences. Also, when she said she's not sure if it's her happiest potential or not, if you ever are questioning if this is the happiest you can be,

You need to end the relationship because I promise you, you're going to find someone where you never question it. Like I still to this day hear people who contemplate ending their relationship and then stay in it. And I can confidently say, and I don't want to speak for you, but I'm pretty sure you would say the same. I've never ever thought about ending my relationship with Pete.

So it's like anyone who I thought that of, I did end it in the past. So it's like if you ever have that, like you always say, if it's not a hell yes, it's a no. Yeah. And like if you're writing this question, I feel for you because what's going to happen if you're strong enough to do it.

is it's going to hurt like hell. It's going to, and you're going to have to like uptick, you know, dig up every single uproot, every single thing in your life. Probably you've probably got overlapping friends. Maybe your finances are together. Like you visualize your future with them for so long, but like you're not married, you know, and you don't have kids yet. You have a dog, but like we can work, we can, we can do, we can co-parent a dog or what have you. But it's, yeah, it's, I think if you're writing this question, you really need to think about

What lifestyle differences mean. Yeah. It's a big bucket. I think if you're ever asking the question, when do you know it's time to call it quits? It's time to call it quits. When you're not, like you said, have that like tie of a marriage or a child. If you're just in a relationship, not worth it. Totally. Like you got kids, you're married, something like that. Different conversation. Totally different advice going to be happening. But like you're dating, you know, I think really think about that. I agree. Yeah.

Okay, well, should we quick do our recs? Yep, do yours and then I'll do mine. Okay. Have you ever watched the show Sex Lives of College Girls on HBO Max? Never even heard of it. Really? Julie's jaw just dropped as well. Yeah. Oh my God. It's on, it's season two or is it season three? Three. Season three. So Renee, do you know who Renee Rapp is? The singer? No. Oh, jeez.

So she's a very famous singer, but she doesn't do the show anymore because she kind of like, she got really well known on the show and like people were starting to like get to know her and understand that she was a really good singer. And now she's like a very, very good singer. And like, that's her main career, but it's a great show. It's written or produced or directed one of those by Mindy Kaling. Like she's a comedian, you know who Mindy Kaling is, right?

The Mindy Project? Yes, no, I didn't know her. Okay. Um...

It's about these four girls who get put into a dorm room together, like a quad freshman year of college. All four completely different people. Like you have a girl who wants to be a comedian, a student athlete, a rich girl, and like kind of a nerd weirdo girl. And throughout the episodes, they become very, very close and best friends. But they just, it's so, I think it's so funny. Like I laugh out loud.

And it's just one of those like feel good shows and it's stupid, but so funny and well written. Like I think you would really like it.

I love that. I've been watching a lot of TV. So that's a great rec for me. But the reason why I brought it up is because season three just came out like a few weeks ago. But I think I feel like Wicked kind of like stole that thunder. Like it came out around the same time. So not a lot of people were talking about it. But Timothy Chalamet's sister is one of the main characters. So that's cool.

That's really cool. Okay, I'm going to look it up. Yeah, so that's my record. HBO Max. I want you to watch that. And you have two and a half seasons to binge.

Which I like. I like when that's when I have a lot of time. Yeah, because HBO Max always does a new episode a week, which I hate. Put them all out at once. I agree. Let us binge it. Let us binge it. Okay, what's yours? Okay, mine is the red one. It's a Christmas movie with The Rock. It's like a loaded cast. It has Lucy Liu, The Rock, and Chris somebody. Evans. He's a big Chris. Yes. Have you seen it? No, but I see the movie posters everywhere. Is it good? It's good.

It is so good. It reminds me of the Ben Stiller. It's like a good movie despite the Christmas stuff. It's more Christmassy than the Nutcracker was. It's really good. What's it about? Can you give me a quick summary without spoiling it? Not really. I'll just tell you it's not cheesy. It's actually good. But if I tell you even the basis of it whatsoever, I will kind of ruin it.

And I believe I can watch this on Amazon Prime right now. I don't know what it was on, but... Okay, I love that. I'm going to watch that. Yeah, it's really good. Maybe I'll watch it tonight when I pack. You should. It would be a great packing movie. And there's plenty of Christmas going on in it with, but all the while, a good plot line. So it's perfect. Oh, I love that. Okay, cool. And if you're listening to this, you can watch one more Christmas movie before Christmas starts.

Exactly. So maybe you, maybe you should watch, like if it's the 23rd when you're listening to this, like watch it tonight. It's so good. Yeah. Okay. Well, we hope everyone has a great Christmas and Hanukkah. Happy holidays. Yeah. Happy, happy holidays, everyone. We love you guys. We'll see you in 2025. See you next year. Yeah. The classic. Okay. Bye.

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