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12: Vitalik Buterin - The Ethereal Prince and His Virtual Machine

2019/11/21
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Vitalik Buterin
以太坊联合创始人和核心开发者，推动以太坊技术和生态系统发展，积极参与社区交流和创新。
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Vitalik Buterin：我自学成才，对经济理论有浓厚兴趣，这源于我对开源文化、数学密码学和奥地利经济学的兴趣，以及对市场失灵和公共物品问题的思考。我参与创建以太坊项目，旨在通过区块链技术和智能合约来探索新的治理和融资模式，解决公共物品的市场失灵问题。二次融资机制是其中一个例子，它通过激励人们共同捐赠来提高公共物品的资助效率。同时，我也意识到区块链技术并非完美无缺，它无法完全解决所有现有治理和货币体系的问题，而应被视为改进和补充现有系统的工具。在2017年和2018年的ICO热潮中，我看到了加密货币领域的投机和欺诈问题，也意识到区块链技术本身的局限性，例如无法直接读取现实世界的事实，这限制了其在某些领域的应用。我对以太坊的未来充满信心，但我也意识到，任何成功的运动都需要内部结构来协调和实现目标，这必然会带来治理、公共物品和冲突等问题。 Eric Weinstein：经济学作为一门学科，融合了物理学的几何动力学和选择理论，但同时也容易受到政治经济学和扭曲思维的影响。互利的交易并非总是对社会有益，因为存在垄断问题和公共物品问题。软件的出现取代了具有私有属性的物理商品和服务，导致公共物品的价值和价格出现巨大差异。我们需要重新思考资本主义和民主制度，以及如何处理公共物品问题。以太坊系统可以被视为一个拥有法律体系的虚拟国家，其权力源于数学和社会共识，而非暴力垄断。加密货币领域存在多种乌托邦式的愿景，例如有效利他主义和极端自由主义。我们需要找到一种方法来平衡市场机制和政治机制，避免市场失灵和社会扭曲。同时，我们也需要警惕加密货币被用于非法活动，例如有组织犯罪。

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Vitalik Buterin discusses the origins of Ethereum, its purpose as a platform for smart contracts and decentralized applications, and his personal journey into economics and blockchain technology.

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In this episode, Vitalik Buterin sits down with Eric to discuss ethereum, the wider world of crypto and heterodox economics.

Taking note of the new development of blockchain in 2010, Eric wrote an essay called “Go Virtual Young Man”. A few years later, a Thiel Fellow named Vitalik created a virtual machine with an idiosyncratic smart contract system and a currency. Ironically, Eric had recently become a Managing Director at Thiel Capital. Perennially circling each other intellectually, the two now sit down in person to discuss economic paradigm shifts, crypto and the future of online sovereignty and social coordination. 

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