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23: Agnes Callard - Courage, Meta-cognitive detachment and their limits

2020/2/24
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Eric Weinstein:探讨了元认知的局限性,认为元认知分析并非独立于原有认知过程,而是建立在原有认知之上的更高层次分析;提出了真理、适应性、意义和优雅四个沟通目标;认为哲学应关注重大而有意义的问题,避免陷入无限的分析循环;探讨了在现代生活中哲学的作用,以及如何平衡真理、意义和优雅;认为Rawlsian的无知面纱存在问题,因为它忽略了个体身份的不可替代性;认为批判性思维和批判性感受同样重要,并探讨了在人际交往中情感表达的困难;认为学术界存在着对知识传播和传承的误解,过度关注个人声誉和地位;认为学术界存在诸多问题,例如对优秀人才的忽视和对个人声誉的过度关注;认为在面对伦理困境时,需要在真理、意义和优雅之间取得平衡。 Agnes Callard:认为初次见面时,人们会尝试相处合作,也会互相评估;认为我们对自我认知存在着不连贯之处,这些不连贯之处常常隐藏在看似“有挑衅性”的话语或行为中;认为我们常常用特定的语言掩盖了自我认知中的不连贯性;探讨了意志薄弱问题,认为我们对意志薄弱的描述存在着不连贯性;认为“挑衅性”的程度取决于问题的具体呈现方式,而非问题的抽象普遍性;认为关于地位的讨论,并非总是能够坦诚地表达对地位的需求;在某些情境下,表达对地位的需求会被视为冒犯;对元认知能力的有效性持怀疑态度,认为“抽离”并非真正意义上的抽离,而是时间上的延迟;认为在元认知分析过程中,个体自身也在不断变化和学习;认为初次见面时,对对方的认知往往基于片面的信息,这可能会导致误解;为了避免误解,需要重新调整对对方的认知,并避免陷入对卓越的自我吹嘘;认为我们学会了如何与人互动,这其中也包括避免直接表达对地位的需求;认为直接表达真相并非总是可行的,因为表达方式本身可能会造成误解;认为为了有效沟通,有时需要放弃追求绝对的真理;认为沟通的目标是更好地理解和传递真理,但也要区分不同真理的重要性;对将事物简单划分为几个类别的方式表示质疑,认为需要理解分类背后的原则;认为思维的目的在于理解或追求某种善,这两种目的并非相同;认为真理与对问题的良好解答并非等同,不能将描述性分析等同于还原性分析;认为不同层次的问题需要用不同的理论框架来解释,不能混淆不同层次的分析;认为哲学过度关注语言,而忽略了重大而有意义的问题;认为哲学在现代生活中所起的作用值得探讨,过度分析可能会导致问题复杂化;认为哲学的根本动力在于追求思想的统一性,避免陷入单纯的词语堆砌;认为哲学追求思想的统一性,避免矛盾和不连贯;认为对意志薄弱的理解需要基于基本原则,而非仅仅停留在直觉层面;认为对话能否带来学习和进步,取决于我们是否能够跳出既有的框架;认为即使没有保证能够获得真理,追求真理本身也是有价值的;认为勇气是使生命有意义的关键因素;认为个人经历是理解哲学问题的视角;认为为了学生,作者发表了关于离婚的演讲;认为社会强加给我们的道德标准是不合理的;认为社会强加的“纯洁”道德标准是不现实的,美德需要后天培养;认为社会强加的道德标准会剥夺个人的隐私;认为作者的演讲并非为了自我辩解,而是为了向学生传递关于爱的真理;认为为了有效沟通,有时需要在真理、意义和优雅之间取得平衡;认为思维是唯一可以进行的操作,即使在梦境中也是如此;认为对万物理论的探索,最终可能会指向一些难以言喻的东西;认为生命的意义在于不断赋予意义的奋斗;认为幸福是生命的意义,这是一个显而易见的真理;认为生命的意义必须由个体自身来实现,不能依赖他人;认为对问题的理解需要跳出固有思维模式;认为学术界存在着对知识传播和传承的误解,过度关注个人声誉和地位;认为学术界存在诸多问题,例如对优秀人才的忽视和对个人声誉的过度关注;认为在面对伦理困境时,需要在真理、意义和优雅之间取得平衡。

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Eric and Agnes discuss the complexities of negotiating status, feelings, and taboos in real-time interactions, using an article Agnes wrote about status negotiation in first meetings as a starting point.

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Philosopher and University of Chicago Professor Agnes Callard sits down with Eric on this episode of the portal. Agnes is a champion of the philosophical tradition of attempting to detach the capacity for inquiry and reason from the fog of feelings and societal taboos that often keep us from delving deeper into the questions that animate our lives. 

Agnes began this unusual back and forth by writing an article about status negotiation in first meetings shortly after the pair first met. Eric and Agnes then use the opportunity of this episode to continue this line of thought by exploring the limits of courage and meta-cognition within the examined life of a modern Philosopher. This results in a real-time exploration by two people who mutually respect each other as to whether they can actually negotiate a detached discussion in real time on the very issues of status, feeling, and taboo that may divide them and/or arise between them. 

As Agnes has written thoughtfully about the many layers of anger, the conversation culminates by exploring dyadic feelings of hurt and indignation with which we all struggle and suffer in our relationships. Ultimately the two finish this experimental conversation with good cheer, together with a wish to continue the discussion at a later date under continuing mutual fondness and admiration.

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