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37: Andrew Marantz - Surfing the Wake of The Woke

2020/7/1
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Eric Weinstein认为，美国2024年大选的预测过于确定，因为选举过程存在制度性问题，而非真正的全民公开竞争。他指出，初选是一个虚伪的仪式，其目的是让内部人士（政党、媒体、金主）控制候选人提名，而非真正反映民意。他将初选比作魔术师的选择，选民感觉自己做了选择，但实际上候选人早已被内定。通过媒体操纵和“政治否定”等手段，政党控制了选民对候选人的认知和选择。通过控制候选人参与的辩论，以及强调声音片段和戏剧性对抗而非实质内容，进一步限制了选民和候选人的知情权和自主选择权。超级代表制度使得党内精英能够控制选举结果，剥夺了普通选民的真正选择权。为了避免党内精英被挑战，主要政党采取各种手段操控初选，例如超级代表制度、媒体操纵、控制辩论等。媒体对受欢迎的候选人进行持续骚扰，例如故意忽略其成就、歪曲其言论、使用错误照片等，以压制其支持率。通过控制辩论机会，进一步限制了那些在独立媒体平台上表现出色的候选人的发展空间。他认为，美国现行的选举制度实际上已经名存实亡，需要改革以实现真正的民主。如果政党、金主和媒体能够控制选举，那么外部势力也可以利用同样的手段操纵选举。美国需要一个独立的媒体，能够客观报道事实，而不是试图推选特定的候选人。美国目前并非民主衰退，而是对民主实验缺乏安全感，导致选举被操纵，损害了公众的利益。需要彻底清除政党内部和媒体的腐败势力，建立一个真正的民主制度。作者对美国政治现状感到担忧，认为需要改革选举制度，避免再次陷入类似的困境。

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Eric and Andrew discuss the rise of the alt-right and internet trolling, exploring how these phenomena are responses to the transformation of the Democratic Party and the mainstreaming of dangerous perspectives.

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New Yorker writer and book author Andrew Marantz and Eric became friends shortly before the 2016 election when Andrew set off to write the first profile of Eric and Geometric Unity, his theory of Physics. Coming from similar ethnic and politically progressive backgrounds they found plenty of common cause. With the rise of Trump, they then found themselves in subtly different places with Andrew more directly concerned with the rise of the Alt-right and Eric convinced that the Alt-right was likely a response to the transformation of the Democratic Party begun under Bill Clinton into a serious threat to National unity. 

In this conversation from November of 2019 in New York City, they discuss Andrew's theories of the rise of the alt-right and internet trolling as well as the research from his 2019 book Antisocial:  Online Extremists, Techno-Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation. They also explore the contradictions between traditional and woke versions of progressivism and where all of this may be leading the republic. Particularly interesting given the 2019 time of this conversation is the concern with civil unrest and revolution which was shortly to play out in the American street a few months later.  

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