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16 | America Has A Problem | For Real, For Real
2024/5/20
Black History, For Real
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Conscious Lee
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Franchesca Ramsey
Conscious Lee：碧昂斯进军乡村乐坛引发争议，反映出美国社会对黑人文化跨界融合的排斥和对黑人音乐贡献的长期忽视。乡村音乐和摇滚乐的起源都与黑人音乐密不可分，但它们却被包装成白人音乐，体现了文化挪用和殖民主义的逻辑。南方文化中对黑人贡献的忽视，导致人们误解乡村音乐的起源。黑人创造的文化产品往往在被白人采用后才能获得商业成功和更广泛的认可，这反映了社会对黑人缺乏尊重。黑人艺术家需要付出更多努力才能获得认可，白人艺术家的成就往往被高估。黑人文化产品带来的利益通常并未主要惠及黑人自身，这与社会结构性问题有关。
Franchesca Ramsey：碧昂斯在超级碗演唱乡村歌曲引发争议，凸显了黑人艺术家在乡村音乐领域的困境。尼利与蒂姆·麦格劳合作的歌曲《迪克西·奇克斯》获得了巨大的商业成功，但同时也引发了争议，反映了人们对黑人音乐跨界融合的复杂态度。LL Cool J 的乡村音乐跨界尝试失败，反映了缺乏文化素养的风险。碧昂斯涉足乡村音乐并非模仿，而是对其自身文化身份的真实表达。“迪克西奇克斯”乐队名称与南方文化中的种族主义历史有关，反映了南方文化对黑人音乐的挪用。碧昂斯的成功表明，黑人艺术家不再需要依靠白人来获得成功。碧昂斯的音乐作品揭示了流行音乐中黑人文化的影响。许多黑人乡村音乐家需要白人帮助才能获得成功。碧昂斯在乡村音乐领域的成功，体现了她的音乐共鸣力和粉丝的支持。将碧昂斯称为跨文化艺术家并不准确，因为乡村音乐本身就源于黑人文化。当黑人音乐被白人广泛采用后，黑人可能会放弃这种音乐风格，转向新的创作。牙套的文化含义随着时间的推移而变化，从被污名化到成为时尚潮流。牙套的文化象征意义与发型和语言等其他黑人文化元素存在关联。黑人常常被指责为自身压迫的责任方，而忽视了社会结构性的问题。对黑人责任和问责的讨论，需要避免陷入倒退的思维模式。
Conscious Lee: Beyoncé's foray into country music sparked controversy, reflecting American society's rejection of cross-cultural fusion of Black culture and the long-standing neglect of Black contributions to music. The origins of country music and rock and roll are inextricably linked to Black music, yet they are packaged as white music, embodying the logic of cultural appropriation and colonialism. The neglect of Black contributions in Southern culture leads to misunderstandings about the origins of country music. Cultural products created by Black people often achieve commercial success and wider recognition only after being adopted by white people, reflecting society's lack of respect for Black people. Black artists need to work harder to gain recognition, and the achievements of white artists are often overestimated. The profits from cultural products created by Black people usually do not primarily benefit Black people themselves, which is related to structural societal problems.
Franchesca Ramsey: Beyoncé's country music performance at the Super Bowl sparked controversy, highlighting the plight of Black artists in the country music industry. Nelly's collaboration with Tim McGraw on the song "Dixie Chicks" achieved enormous commercial success, but also sparked controversy, reflecting people's complex attitudes toward cross-cultural fusion of Black music. LL Cool J's failed attempt to cross over into country music reflects the risks of lacking cultural literacy. Beyoncé's foray into country music is not imitation, but a genuine expression of her cultural identity. The name of the band "Dixie Chicks" is associated with the racist history of Southern culture, reflecting Southern culture's appropriation of Black music. Beyoncé's success shows that Black artists no longer need to rely on white people to achieve success. Beyoncé's music reveals the influence of Black culture in popular music. Many Black country musicians need help from white people to achieve success. Beyoncé's success in the country music industry reflects her musical resonance and fan support. Calling Beyoncé a cross-cultural artist is inaccurate because country music itself originates from Black culture. When Black music is widely adopted by white people, Black people may abandon this musical style and turn to new creations. The cultural meaning of grills has changed over time, from being stigmatized to becoming a fashion trend. The cultural symbolism of grills is related to other Black cultural elements such as hairstyles and language. Black people are often blamed for their own oppression, while ignoring structural societal problems. Discussions of responsibility and accountability for Black people need to avoid falling into regressive thinking patterns.
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The hosts explore the deep roots of Black music in American country music, using Beyoncé's 'Cowboy Carter' as a starting point to discuss the nuances between appreciation, appropriation, and colonization of Black culture.
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