7-10-24 McElroy & Cubelic in the Morning Hour 3: Repeating 2023 SEC stats in 2024; 11-win seasons moving forward
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jocksfm.com. You can also download the app and listen there. Tell your home smart speaker to enable the jock skill. Having some trouble connecting with Scott Wright. May get to him a little bit later in the show. If not, we'll try to get him back tomorrow. So we'll stay with some SEC football questions that I have for this upcoming season. We'll kick those around to the guys and continue to discuss those. First, I'll tell you about Game Day Men's Health.

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Jackson Dart, Gregory. Yes. 6,338 yards passing in his Ole Miss career. 43 passing touchdowns. Do you believe he surpasses Eli Manning for the all-time lead in either of those categories? If you're asking what the all-time lead in those categories is, Eli Manning would be 10,119 passing yards. No.

Ely Manning, 81 passing touchdowns. Now the touchdown seems a little bit far-fetched, going from 43 to 82. Doubtful. 6,300. It's possible. I think it's unlikely, but it's possible. It's definitely possible, but I would say probably not on that one. But that's just me. Probably not. I would agree. Passing yards, 6,338. Ely Manning, 10,119. Does Jackson Dart pass Ely Manning?

In passing yards, yes, but I don't think he will on touchdowns. I mean, that's going to require one heck of a year, probably a Heisman Trophy type of year to get there in passing touchdowns. But I do think if you take into account all-purpose and stuff like that, he could maybe get there. Damien? Nah, I don't think he catches them in either one of them.

I'll tell you what I think is going to hurt him is the first four weeks of the season. Now, it's 37-81, or 37-82 to pass him. Very doable. I just don't think he's going to put up a lot of big numbers early in the season. I don't think he's going to need to. I think the first quarter of the season is probably going to hurt him as far as the kind of numbers that he's going to put up. I just don't think they're going to be big numbers. Probably not. Could still make up for it later, but...

If you're talking about how long he's even going to be in games against Furman, Middle Tennessee, maybe even Wake, Georgia Southern, maybe he has to ramp it up late and he gets it done. But we're one and one, John. Does Jackson Dart pass Eli Manning?

I'll say yes, because you said he's, what, 37 or so, 3,700-ish away? 3,782 he would need to pass. I mean, he's 3,364 last year with 13 games, and not to say he made the SEC championship, but if they have the season we expect where he's getting at least 13 games, maybe 14, if he gets 14 cracks at it, even though, yeah, he may not have as much, but he did have over 300 against Mercer, and they're tricky, oh, it was a tricky offense, but he had over 300 against Mercer last year, so it

If he does that against the question marks early on where you don't know how much he needs to put up, yeah, I think he can. I think he goes on the first four drives against Mercer also. He'll pass Chaz Kelly most likely in game one. Kelly at 6,800. Matt Corral will be next at 8,287. Bo Wallace after that at 9,534. So only two Ole Miss quarterbacks have thrown from 9,000 yards in their careers. Jackson Dart looking to become the third. 81 touchdown passes seems a little bit...

Unlikely. I mean, I think that's a big ask. Yeah, it's a lot. 23 last year, you have to triple that. There are only two quarterbacks in the Southeastern Conference that have thrown for 6,000 yards the last two seasons. Can you name them? Jane Daniels. Well, they're going to be playing this year. Oh, they're going to be playing. Dart. Jackson Dart is one. Jackson Dart and...

I don't know if Graham Mertz got there two years ago. I don't think he did. I'm going to say Peyton Thornt? Brady Cook. Wow. I didn't know he got to 3,000 two years ago. The only two that have been over 6,000 yards the last two years. So I'll ask you this question off of that. What SEC quarterbacks will surpass 6,000 yards passing the next two seasons? Nussmeier.

Carson won't be there next year. Nico? Nico Iamaleva. I think he's probably an easy one. Safe bet. So you got two. Let's say Jackson Arnold, three. That's a good guess. Let's say... That's not a guess. It's a lock. A good lock prediction. Let's say...

It's a little dependent on whether he comes back or not. And I don't even know if Nussmeyer will come back. I mean, he's got another year, though, right? So I think it's a safe assumption that he'll be back. You could throw Brady Cook in again. You could throw Brady Cook in there because I think Brady Cook will likely come back. But in the absence of all his weapons, that's a question mark. Could you say...

Long shot Arch Manning with maybe some fill-in work, reserve work this year, and then blow it up the next year. He would need like 2,000 yards this year. I don't see that happening. I can see Wigman. That's what I was going to say, but I don't know with him being potentially the first quarterback off the board this year, does he reap the tea leaves? According to. Right, yeah. Vandergriff? It's too early. I don't know.

I just don't think in that offense they're going to throw it as much. 3,000 is not. It's not crazy. No, it's not. Even when we were ground and pound, I was 29.87 in 2010.

Like, that's not in 13 games. That's not, like, a crazy number. That's the other part we have to take into consideration here, some extra games maybe. We can allow some of these guys to get there. How many more years left does Shapin have in Mississippi State? I was wondering the same thing. Could he come back and play another year? Because I think he'll hit 3,000 this year. If he stays healthy, easily.

So he could do it. I honestly don't know, Damien, if he has another year or not, which that's going to be the case for a lot of guys we're going to look at. I think when in doubt, say yes, he has another year. Payton Thorne? No. I do think this is his last year, isn't it? Once again, who knows? I don't know anymore. I really don't know. I would love to tell you I knew. I just don't know.

You've got a quarterback at Utah that could play his eighth year next year. Shapen should have one more because his freshman year, which he redshirted, was 2020. So I assume that one didn't count. So he still, in theory, would have a redshirt. But also he's got an extra year of eligibility. So I imagine he has at least one more. Well, there you go. We ride. Dylan Gabriel passed for 55 touchdowns.

3,168 yards the last two years. Will Jackson Arnold pass those numbers the next two? Yes. I don't think Gabriel had great weapons.

I mean, they were fine. They were solid. Solid college wide receiver. Drake Stoops, solid player. Right. Really good player. Jalil Farouk, solid player. He's back. I mean, really good, but not your number one. Like, I think Deion Burks is a chance to be a legit one. He's big time. Big time, big time. So, I think the weapons are going to be a little bit better, but I also think they're going to run the ball a little more. I mean, I have a hard time, you tell me. I have a hard time thinking...

Well, just knowing Seth Luttrell. Seth Luttrell's a fullback, dude. Yeah. He was a fullback, always a fullback. Yeah, that cat ain't. That's in his heart. That ain't, I mean, yeah, he wants his quarterback to get numbers, but he wants to pound you. That's his bread and butter. So I think that's going to be hard-pressed to assume that that's a lock for sure. 6,828 yards, 55 touchdowns, Dylan Gabriel at Oklahoma the last two years.

I think the yards he will surpass. The touchdown passes is going to be – that's a lot, man. That's a lot of touchdown passes. No, you don't say. But, hey, listen, I mean, he has the ability, he has the talent, and potentially could be able to do that. I want to go back to Georgia. We mentioned 42-2 the last three years. I'll ask you this question, Greg. Georgia last year, 40.1 points per game, second all-time in school history. Yeah.

496.5 yards per game. Second all-time in school history. The school record for yards in a game, 501.1. And they literally missed points per game record by .2 points per game. It's 41.3. I'm sorry, 1.2 points per game. Will Georgia set school records for yards per game and points per game this upcoming season? Yes. You think they go over 501.1 per game and they go over 41.3 per game? Yes. Damien?

Maybe points per game. The reason that I would say no is we've talked about the schedule, right? And I got this. I think Carson Beck's going to be amazing. I think his receiving core is vastly underrated, even though a lot of people do say it's one of the top three or four. I think you should make the case that it could be the best all around. But they got Texas. Auburn should be better. They're at Alabama. They're at Kentucky. They're at Alabama.

Georgia Tech's a game that Greg thinks could be problematic. It could be a tougher game than people think. Let's just say that. That's what it was last year. You've got Tennessee at home. You're at Ole Miss later. I just think maybe some of the games are going to be a little bit closer than Georgia just being able to run up and down the field. So I don't think they surpass both of those. But with what they have, it definitely feels possible. I don't feel like it's not a pass-around possibility at all.

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Past catchers in the SEC, how many go over 1,000 yards this year? We discuss it next on McIlroy and Kubelik in the morning. Catch up with all things McIlroy and Kubelik in the morning by subscribing to the podcast. Mythically, he's grown. He's almost like a little bit bigger than a player, right? Like the myth of Bo Jackson. Like, rate, and download the show from the Jock Gap or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, welcome back in. McIlroy and Kubelik in the morning. Going to talk 1,000-yard receivers this upcoming year in the SEC in just a moment.

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And as important as that position has become, as coveted as it has become, it is wild to imagine that there were only four 1,000-yard receivers in the Southeastern Conference last year. Now, a couple just missed it. Trey Harris, 985. Ricky Pierce saw 965. You had Dayton Wade with 830. Some offenses spread the ball around a little bit, cost some guys some opportunities to maybe get there. But there is only one receiver.

player returning in the Southeastern Conference that had 1,000 yards receiving last year, and that is Luther Burden from Missouri. One. That's it. That's it. One. How many? We had four last year. How many 1,000-yard receivers will we have in the Southeastern Conference this year? More or less than four? I'll say more. So you'll go Luther Burden again. Yes. We'll just take a guy from Ole Miss. Yes.

Juice Wells, Trey Harris. They just spread the ball a lot. But I think they're going to struggle to run. If Trey Harris doesn't get hurt last year, he's over 1,000. Yeah, so I'll say Ole Miss will have one. I think LSU will have one.

Tennessee will have one. I think Georgia will have one. That's the group that I'm worried about spreading it too much and not having one. Who, Georgia? Yes. I think they're going to feed Dominic Lovett. Maybe I'm just – 54 for 613 last year. I think they're going to feed him. I think he's going to get a lot of looks. Gone are the third down looks that are going to go in the direction of Ladd-McConkie. They got London Humphries for that. Why are they interchangeable? Sneaky athletic.

Good route runner. Absolutely. Warriors. Create sudden separation. High football IQ. Yeah. Sneaky fast. Sneaky fast. Okay, so we've got Burden. I agree. One from LSU. Probably Kyron Lacey would be the one that I'd put my money on first. He'd be the most obvious selection. We'll say one from Ole Miss. Trey Harris is probably the guy that we'd put our money on there first. One from Tennessee, which I think you could take a choice of a couple of different guys there. That would give us four. Yeah.

Does Auburn have a 1,000-yard receiver this year? No, spread it around too much, run the ball too much. I think Bam will spread the ball around a lot. I think Deion Burks. I think Florida will have one. I think Eugene Wilson will go for 1,000. That's a good one. He had 61 for 538 last year. That's a true freshman. And they're going to be in some throw-a-thon situations where he's going to just get a lot of volume. Plus, Pearsall went for a lot last year. Yeah, Pearsall was 65 for 965.

Texas, I think, is going to spread the ball around. That's the problem with Texas this year. I think you have your typical roles. You have your speedster, catch-and-run guy. That'll be Isaiah Bond. You'll have your dependable, sure-handed dude in Matthew Golden. Then you have the juice down the field in Silas Bolden. Amari Nyblak will be your Jatabion Sanders. I think Texas is going to spread the ball a lot.

A team that I think we could probably throw in there that most likely will have one, Kentucky. I think it's – even though they don't have – not saying they're going to have 6,000 passing yards, but to have a 1,000-yard receiver is not a crazy thought. Dane Key, 42 for 636 last year. Yeah. You also had Tavion Robinson go 552, Barry and Brown 539. So it's very feasible there. Texas A&M, we don't know exactly how it's going to look, but you've got some talent coming back at that position. Yeah.

Could be very possible. Yeah, I would say that the problem with A&M is I just don't know what the pecking order is going to be. It's hard for me to envision $1,000 there. I would take under on $1,000 at Kentucky, by the way.

I would take over Deion Burks 1,000 at Oklahoma. So all in, I mean, we're looking at, I think six is probably about right. Well, there's a good chance, too, that Missouri, Ole Miss, maybe LSU have more than one also. So that could also help push it over. Probably unlikely, but it's possible. I mean, Missouri with the OE. You think it's the OE to get to 1,000? Come on.

I mean, 49 for 682 last year. And if they play a couple of playoff games or even a playoff game, I mean, OK, you take into account playoff action like I'm thinking more. What about Mississippi State? Who's their guy?

They'll have one. I just don't know who it's going to be yet, so it's hard for me to say yes. They'll take their shot. And let's be real. People that are saying double digits and there'll be double-digit guys in the 1,000-yard mark, there's going to be guys that get banged up too, miss times, two or three games. Trey Harris last year. Get an ankle. He's not the same guy. Brew McCoy was lost for the year last year. I mean, it happens. I hate it, but it's a reality. If I had to make a prediction, I would say Kelly Akari at Mississippi State.

Would be that guy. Had a pretty good year last year at UTEP. Bigger, physical, down the field guy could attack the football. Pretty good catch and run for his size also. I think that's very feasible. Sure. How many guys do you think returning in college football nationally had over 1,200 yards receiving last year? 1,200? Returning to college football.

I'm going to say eight guys. You had ten total in college football. There were ten? That did it. There's not ten returning. Oh, returning? I'll say six. There's three. I'm sorry. There's four, and you already named one. Colin Lacey. And we named one in our previous discussion. Luther Burden. Colin Lacey will be going to Louisville. Luther Burden will be back at Missouri. Okay. There's one easy one and one very difficult one. Kid at UNLV?

Ricky White. That was the difficult one. Yes, he went for 1483. The next one you should know. We've talked about him a lot on the show. Piece of cake. Sorry, life is easy here. This is so easy. This is the easiest one. Mecheg Buka? No, he got banged up last year. Arizona? Your boy from... T-Mac, yeah. He had 90 for 1402. God almighty. Yeah. But you had four...

receivers total in college football go over 1,200 receiving yards that are returning this year. It's just the reason I bring some of this up is this position is getting all this attention and it's become so important and everybody's got to go get them and find them. You would think that the numbers would be a little bit bigger. There'd be more guys that put up more numbers like this and it just kind of hasn't really happened that way. So it's just an interesting look at where it is. And I don't know if we will, by the way. I think you're seeing more volume. And we see the same thing at running back.

In an effort to keep everybody happy, you're seeing the ball getting spread out a little bit more. You're not getting that Amari Cooper, you're getting 135 catches. It's just not going to happen. Look, if guys weren't so dang selfish, then yeah, you would see that. But it's not...

You just don't see that style of attack anymore where you're moving. Everything's about getting the ball to one guy. Now, Arizona did it, but there's not many situations like that out there. No, and over the last six, eight years, Amari Cooper had 124, by the way, in 2014. Devontae Adams, the year before, had 131.

It was a little bit more common back then. Jordan White had 140 at Western Michigan in 2011. Wow. Ryan Broyles at Oklahoma, 131 in 2010. Freddie Barnes? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone seen the tape on Freddie Barnes? Texas tape. No. No.

155 catches in 2009 for Bowling Green. 155? I've literally never heard of Freddie Barnes. He got the ball. I'll tell you that. Jareth Stearns, Western Kentucky, 150 in 21.

But, yeah, I mean, you don't get up over the 120 range into the 130s, 150s very often. It doesn't happen a whole lot. Speaking of big plays, there is a team that's probably going to need them to get to where they want to go this year. I got a couple questions about a team that has done it in recent years and has not done it in recent years and ask you if they're going to be able to do that, which side of it they'll be on this upcoming year. First, G-Mac, tell our listeners how ABS Systems can help them out. Well, ABS Systems is going to make sure –

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They've been really good at it two years ago, not so good at it last year. Where will they be this year? We'll tell you the team, give you the numbers, and ask where they're going to land this upcoming season next on McIlroy and Kublik in the morning. The capital of the sports talk nation. This is Jocks 94.5 and jocksfm.com. Hurry and... All right, welcome back in. McIlroy and Kublik in the morning, Wednesday, July 10th, 931 a.m. right here on Jocks 94.5. Some Major League Baseball last night.

The Phillies took it to the Dodgers 10-1. Yep. Dodgers now 55-37 on the season. Those two go again at 6 o'clock tonight. Phillies 59-32. The Rays take out the Yankees 5-3. Yankees 5-16 since June 15th. That's the worst in Major League Baseball since that time. Talk about needing an All-Star break. All-Star game next Tuesday.

Aaron Judd's three for 23 his last six games. Yikes. Ouch. They play again at 550 tonight. Yankees now 55-38 on the season. Braves take out the D-backs 6-2. Chris Sale gets his 10th win of the year. First pitcher in Major League Baseball with 12 wins.

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Tennessee, a team, would you agree, needs to have an abundance of big plays to be successful? Yes. They're going to need to rely on explosive plays to get to the college football playoff or at least be knocking on that door come November. Correct. We all agree with that? Yes. Okay. Can confirm. So I want to ask you this question. Which side of the fence will they be closer to when it comes to explosive plays this upcoming season?

2022, Tennessee had 65 plays. 65 plays of 25 yards or more. Yes. You know how many teams in college football had more than that? I'll say zero. One. Second in the nation. Last year, Tennessee had 39 plays of 25 yards or more. That was 45th in college football. So essentially middle of the pack around there for Tennessee last year. Will they be closer to 45th in the country or second in the country this year?

in explosive plays if we're grading them by being 25 yards or more this upcoming season? I think they'll, gosh, it's hard for me to say they won't be better this year offensively. Think about how many plays were left on the field. I mean, just being real here, not being a hater, just being real. Think about how many explosive plays would have been made if there was an accurate ball thrown. Three a game? A lot more.

They probably missed two or three a game. And I'm not saying you've got to hit them all. You're not expected to hit them all. They're low percentage plays for a reason. But if you can hit one more a game, you know, I mean, I think that there's a lot of reason for optimism and growth under the circumstances here. Okay, so you're saying closer to second than 45th. Correct. Okay, Damien? Absolutely closer to second than 45th. John?

I think they would be closer, but I'm thinking they're more like in the – they're flirting with 20. They'll be around the top 20. So I guess that's closer to the top two, but I don't think they'll be like in the top three or four. Yeah, not closer by much if that's where they are. No, no. But to Greg's point, if they have one more game, that would give them just over 60, which would put them basically what they had the year before. The year before, yeah. So, I mean, it's –

I've said before, there are a couple of spots where they need to stay healthy. And I think you can say that about every team in certain spots. Of course. I just think it is beyond critical that at center they stay healthy and at running back they stay. I just don't know if they're as explosive after Dylan Sampson with Cam Seldon or Deshaun Bishop. So I think if those two positions stay healthy for most of the year, I think Tennessee will be closer to second than they will 45th, where they've been the last two seasons as far as explosive plays are concerned. Yeah.

It's interesting that that's kind of what they are and how they are. But it's not all those deep throws. I mean, a lot of those come on the ground, too. Right. They're a team that can create, because of the space that they get, they can create those explosive plays running the football. And that's where I think it's got to be different as well. And they were not great there rushing the football either. Two years ago, they were. So not just through the air completing balls down the field. It's got to happen on the ground. And I think...

But if it gets going for Tennessee this year, a lot of it is going to be there. So I think we're all kind of in agreement that they're going to take a big step there. They almost have to. Well, and if they do, then they're going to be a pretty good team. They won't be worse. I can promise you that. I don't know for sure if they're going to be way better, but I can promise you they won't be worse. There's no way they can miss as many plays as they did a year ago. It's just too hard to anticipate. Okay, I have one more.

As far as this upcoming SEC season that I want to get you guys' thoughts on. And it has to do with double-digit win seasons. And you missed earlier on the win totals for the last three years, teams in the Southeastern Conference. I want to see if you guys can hit that.

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multiple 11 win seasons in the last decade. How many Southeastern Conference teams have done it? We'll discuss it next on McElroy and Kubelik in the Morning. Catch up with all things McElroy and Kubelik in the Morning by subscribing to the podcast. Mythically, he's grown. He's almost like a little bit bigger than a player, right? Like the myth of Bo Jackson. Like, rate, and download the show from the Jock Tap or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, welcome back in. McElroy and Kubelik in the Morning.

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I'm going to say... Or would you like to give you the amount of teams that have done it, and then you attempt to give me the teams that have done it? In the last decade, so dating back to 2014, the college football playoff era, you have Alabama and Georgia. That would be one. That would be two. Okay. Good luck with the next. LSU? No. LSU had one in 19. That was really it. I'm going to say, well, Oklahoma. Okay.

Okay, that's not. Well, it counts. They didn't do it in the Southeast. Sorry. Sorry for being right. No. Ole Miss? No. They only have one 11-win season ever. I'm going to say Florida. No. They didn't have one in 15? No, they did. Multiple 11-win seasons in the last decade. Alabama has 10. Georgia has 6. Missouri has 2. In the last decade? Correct. So last year was one, and when would the other one have been?

One of the years they won the... I thought it was like 2014. What about 2012? Since 2014. I'm surprised that they had one in 2014. They had 11 in 2014. Would not have guessed that one. So since 2014, Bama 10, Georgia 6, Missouri 2. So here's the question off that. Florida had one in 2015, so they're one. Well, if they had two in one year, it would be more impressive than anything we've talked about today. Okay.

What SEC teams will have multiple 11-win seasons over the next decade? Well, there's going to be more opportunities because there's more games. Yeah, there is. But it's also going to be harder to get to those games and you're in a more difficult league you're playing in. I don't know if it is going to be harder to get to those games for some teams.

I mean, Georgia's going to have multiple 11-win seasons. Georgia and Alabama, you would say, are both in? Yeah, because they're safe. Let's repeat. Okay. I think Texas is probably pretty safe. Multiple 11-win seasons. Texas will be there? I think that's a safe one. Over the course of a decade, man, you'd be hard-pressed not to. See, there's still a little bit of wait and see for me. Okay.

I tell you, I can't bet against LSU and I can't bet against Florida. Over the course of a 10-year period? 10 years? 10 years. Tennessee? I think they can get there. They'll be in there. They weren't for the last 10 years. It hasn't been automatic. What about Auburn? And I don't say because of the consistency moving forward every year, but because of the ebbs and flows, the ups and downs, to be able to grab two in 10 years of 11 wins.

will Auburn have two 11 win seasons over the next 10 years? I would actually say yes, based on history. It just tells you that there will be two years over the next 10 that they'll jump up and have a better championship ish run. Right? Yeah. I mean, they will. I just want, I do wonder though. I mean, I think that, um, I think that the new world that is the sec, I can't decide if it benefits a team like Auburn or if it hurts a team like Auburn yet. Like I'm still kind of in, in wait and see mode. Um,

because it used to be where they beat Bama, they had a real shot of going to the SEC championship game. Now, collectively, it's harder to do. It's harder to get to the SEC title game now almost in some ways. But we'll see. If I had to guess, I'd say no. But I can understand your thought process as well, believing that it can certainly be done. So it's interesting if you go back, because you guys just said, oh, Tennessee, yes, for sure.

Now, obviously, the further you go back, things get a little bit different as far as the amount of games. We know they had 11 wins in 2022. Want to take a guess at the last time that happened before that? Sometime when Fulmer was there. 2001. It's automatic, though. Fulmer did it in 97. Fulmer did it in 95. Johnny Majors did it in 89. And Bill Battle did it in 1970. Yeah.

It was also accomplished one time by General Nealon in 1938 when they were 11-0. But you also look, too. Look at Texas. I mean, they had a bunch of 10-win seasons in a row. But historically speaking, 11-win seasons are kind of fleeting. Now, you've got to take it with a slight grain of salt because there was an era in which they only played 11 regular season games, and there weren't as many games played. So 11 wins back 35 years ago was an undefeated year.

Gosh, I think 11 wins even as recent as 2005 was an undefeated season. I can't really remember when that transition took place, but either way, it's not an automatic. You think Mizzou can keep it going? 80s is when it got very realistic to get 11.

It could happen before that, but I think a lot of things had to go your way. Almost be perfect. I think Missouri is a great question. Like Greg said, does Brady Cook stay? There's going to be an abundance of talent that leaves after this year. But Drinkwich has been good in the portal, and he's recruiting at the high school level better than they have in a long time. So, I mean, I think it benefits them. But why is everyone so hot on Missouri this year? Like what's the biggest reason? Skill. No. No.

I'm telling you from my perspective, it's skill. Okay, but I'm just telling you why everyone else is as hot on Missouri and Ole Miss as they currently are. Points. Schedule. They look at their schedule and they say, you know what, that's pretty manageable.

relatively speaking. They're not going to Texas. They're not going to Bama. Missouri is, but that's kind of the one where it's like, all right, they lose that one fine, but they're still in great shape to make the playoff. When the

cart turns a bit and their winning percentage is maybe in the top half of the league as opposed to the bottom half of the league maybe things will be viewed a little bit differently with with missouri um i'm not saying they can't be really good i think they absolutely can they've clearly proven that uh and i think it'll become more real if they do it again this year because they have expectations now like sneaking up on people is great but i also think

wearing the target and getting it done is a whole heck of a lot more difficult. Missouri's going to find that out. Arizona's going to find that out. All these schools that are new to the party are going to find that out, just how hard it is. Absolutely. Going back to 11 win seasons for Auburn, 83-93, 0-4-0-6, 10-13. That's six. Tennessee has seven. So if you're talking about the next ten years, Auburn didn't have one until 83.

You know, Tennessee got one in 38, didn't get no until 50, didn't get no until 70, didn't get no until 89. And Fulmer got a couple. That's when things kind of started to change a little bit, though, when extra games were there and maybe you had better opportunities to go do it. I just think it's interesting when you look at the conference being more difficult, more difficult games in a regular season. What are games late in the season going to mean?

Guys you're going to play, guys you're not going to play. Games, it doesn't matter if you win or lose because you're either in the playoffs or you've already wrapped up a number one seed, whatever that is. Conference championship games could be looked at differently, but you're also going to have more opportunities to play more games. So an 11-win season, still going to be great. People should still look at it as really good, but it might be very different than a 1988 11-win season. So I just thought it was interesting. Those weren't the teams that most people would have selected. And then moving forward, what's it going to look like?

And are people going to be okay with an 11-win season going to the second round of the playoffs? I don't know. No, you say that, Greg. I don't know. The only fan base that's not happy with the playoff berth in the world are the Dallas Cowboys. Literally. They're the only one. Everyone else is like, I'm just happy to be here. I want to win. I'm going to be disappointed if we lose. But guess what? We're in the playoffs, man. We have a chance. So unless there's a lot of crossover between Missouri Tigers and Dallas Cowboys, I think they're probably going to be aight.

Making the playoff, you're in the top 12 consistently. What more could you ask for? Now, you're talking about Georgia, you're talking about Bama, you're talking about Ohio State, not winning the whole thing. Yeah, people are going to freak out. Okay. Last one for the day before we wrap it up. Kalen DeBoer has won 10 games in eight of his nine seasons as a college head coach. Will he win 10 or more his next three? Yes.

I don't even think it's a question. Eight of his nine seasons as a college head coach, is that counting his time at Sioux Falls? Yes. Oh. Yes. I think so. I mean, ten or more. He was 67-3 at Sioux Falls, by the way. Three NAIA championships. People think that ten win seasons are a birthright. They're not. They're hard. They're hard to come by. But it'd be very difficult for me to imagine how they're recruiting, the momentum that's already been created there.

He's a damn good football coach. He's a really good football coach. It'd be hard for me to think that he's not going to get more out of his players than people. You can think that Kalen's good. I think this is this amazing phenomenon that we're currently experiencing right now in college football. You can think that Nick Saban's great. You can think that he's the greatest of all time.

And not think that he's worth four wins a year. Those things are not mutually exclusive. Alabama is going to be Bama. They're going to be Bama the way they've always been Bama. It's just going to be a little different. But the fact that Nick Saban isn't there doesn't mean that they fall off into oblivion. I just am amazed at this revelation that people just refuse to acknowledge that Kaitlin DeBoer is really good. Oh, you don't want to be the guy that follows the guy. Yeah, that's the way people think that are not set up.

for higher achievement. It's fair. John, you say 10 or more of the next three seasons for Kalen DeBoer? Yeah, no doubt. Would you also say that this particular year, there are more games that appear to have an opportunity to be losable for Alabama than in the last, say, five or six? Correct. Georgia, at Tennessee, Missouri at home, at LSU, at Oklahoma, at...

But some of those games, outside maybe Georgia and LSU, I don't think we would have even had a conversation about those games being losable in many of the last eight to ten years. Just saying. But the door's open for the Oklahoma game. The door's open for the Tennessee game. The door's open for the Missouri game now. I think for them, when you ask me whether or not he'll have those double-digit wins, if he doesn't make that mark...

This is the year it doesn't happen. Can I share one more note with you guys on the dominance of Nick Saban? Absolutely. Nick Saban, 201, when you talk about how dominant he was, 201 wins at Alabama. He played 107 games against AP-ranked teams. That's 14 more than any other program during that time. His 201 wins were first. Opponent points per game, 15.7. That was first.

The points per game differential, Alabama was plus 22 in those games. It's crazy. They outscored their opponents by 22 points per game, and more than half of their games were against top 25 teams. I'm telling you. He's completely insane. Real deal. More of those coming up tomorrow. Three-man front is coming at you next. This is McElroy and Kulik in the morning.

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