7-11-24 McElroy & Cubelic in the Morning Hour 2: CFP Committee moving home playoff games; new teams winning conferences; Top-3 overrated teams in 2024
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Welcome back in. McElroy and Kubrick in the morning, 8 a.m. Thursday, July 11th. Hour number two underway right here on Mac and Cube in the morning. Before we go to top three, I want to go back to

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can get an idea of sort of what this was and why it sounded this way and as far as what playoff games may be moving forward. What does a campus need to host a playoff game that they wouldn't have for an October conference game? Yeah, that's a great question, Barry. So there's a lot of factors that are going to go into this.

Weather is going to be a factor that they're going to have to consider because this game is going to be later in the year, in the winter, than they normally were. Hotels are a factor. Do they have the level of hotel that would be expected for a playoff game? And do they have the availability when we need it?

practice space, those are the kinds of things that people need to keep in mind. But also, I mean, everything from ticket sales to managing how we distribute the tickets, all those kinds of things have to come into play. It's not a game that they had been planning on for six or eight months.

Okay, some of it makes sense, and there are parts of it that you can make sense of. It doesn't mean I have to like a lot of it. And I'm going to be honest with you. The weather part is what I think I dislike the most. Yeah. Because if you're Minnesota, Penn State, Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, that's your advantage. So what are our determining factors here, Greg? Is just if the forecast looks bad? I mean, if it's going to be minus five windshield in Ann Arbor, nah, we're not going to do that.

It's because it can be a crummy TV product if you have to play that game in that weather. It's going to be snow and wind and sleet, whatever. So, no, we don't want to do that. No, I won't look good on television. The ratings will suffer. Well, I mean, that's not necessarily true. If you actually look at – No, I'm saying what's the mindset? That's not for me. I love watching the snow. That's what I mean. You actually – there's actually –

There's information to suggest that ratings actually improve. Yeah, I'm for it. But I'm just saying, so what is the weather issue that Rich Clark is referencing? I think he's referencing like a dangerous situation. For instance, I know this is like a unique circumstance, but if there was a game being played in Houston last weekend and Hurricane Beryl is in line to hit Galveston,

12 hours before kickoff, probably not going to play the game. I mean, if there is the possibility of, you know, a sub-zero minus 35 degree temperature in Minnesota where it would genuinely be unhealthy for people to be outside and play the game, they might not play the game. Like, I think he's just kind of leaving it open-ended in the event in which

There are force force majeure, which I think a lot of us are familiar with after COVID. Yes. I wish I wasn't, but it's the truth. Force majeure, if you're unfamiliar, is basically an act of God that is written into a contract that would allow them a way out of said contract. Yeah.

That's in the most layman terms possible because I don't really know how else to explain it. I'm a layman. But long story short, that I think would be part of their process of figuring these things out. If you have like – if you have – I mean you legitimately run the risk.

I mean, you've got people opening their front doors and all you see is snow. Yeah. Okay. Like that's a winter storm of a magnitude that you only see once or twice every ten years. Like, yeah, all right, I get it. Hurricane, I understand, but –

That's not the way that came out to me personally. That wasn't my connotation on the way that he delivered that. Now, the Football Writers Associates of America did tweet out a little bit later saying in a sidebar presser at the Big 12 Conference Media Days said that seating for the playoff teams will be strictly from the selection committee. No factors regarding a school's preparation to host will play a part in the process. Then why did you say those things?

Because one thing that stood out to me, because he said ticket distribution. Well, why are they distributing the tickets? I feel like if you're the home game, it's just like any normal home game. Yeah, 20% or whatever the number is. Yeah, you're allowed. Okay, let the away fans get some. I get that. Okay, fine. But the rest is... It's going to be a large portion of corporate America first. Right. But that's right. Instead of everything going straight to the home team fans, which it should be, they're distributing it. And that, again, is...

That's not affecting the integrity of the game as much as maybe some of this other stuff. It's like, well, hold on. What are we doing? I just don't think any of us want to hear any of these things maybe being going down this path. This is not what we feel like it was designed for, but probably should not be surprised that this is some of the thought process. What it is, it's a little bit of a get-out-of-jail-free card.

Let's not worry too much about the scenario. It's a little bit like the College Football Playoff Committee's addendum. They're at the bottom of the criteria. In the event in which your team loses a star player, that can be a factor in determining whether or not you are deemed fit for playoff action.

That is just a little bit of protection that's built into the language. Just a little bit. And it might not ever be acted upon, and I hope it's not. And I hated last year that Florida State was left out of the playoff as a result of an injury to their quarterback. That's just not fun. That's not fun for anybody. I hate the drama that comes with that. I hate that it was a 14 playoff last year as opposed to a 12 because then it could have accommodated everybody. So it's...

You know, it's just the way it is. But I think it's just a little bit of protection built in there from, you know, the committee or the executive director. And I think it's probably smart, if I'm going to be honest. Michael Kirby tweets in, hey, at Cole Kulik, looks like your favorite Notre Dame fan is about to call in and complain about the weather and home games.

The unhipster tweets in, I heard what Cole heard. Comments seem to build in and out for the rankings based on non-football metrics. Let Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss get shafted over hotel rooms and there will be riots. They're not doing that. Jolly tweets in, listening to that dude talk about home playoffs games, I have one thing to say, whack. So I understand where you're coming from, Greg, and I think there's some accuracy in what you're saying, but also I just feel like that

You're unlocking a door that feels like it could be very dangerous down the road. And we'll see. We'll see how it goes and see if anybody does get dinged because of weather or hotel availability. And maybe my brain is just – I felt like he gave –

put into words a conspiracy theory we all kind of have, but figured, eh, they probably don't do it, but wouldn't be surprised if they did. But now he put it out there. It's like, oh, okay, well, so if slash when it happens... He helped it be believable. Correct, yeah. Right. It's...

Maybe my brain just feels like these teams that are going to be in the mix for one of these or multiple home games are not going to have to worry about these things anyway. Most likely not, no. But there are things that have been done now. It's not like these schools are going to be caught. Okay. Let's just be real for a second. How many schools do you think realistically look at this scenario and say, yeah, we're probably in line to potentially have a home playoff game? How many? 15? Maybe 20? Yeah.

20? Tops? To host? To host. No, more than that. To host a home playoff game, you think 20 teams, more than 20 teams are preparing for that possibility? Oh, are preparing. I thought you meant like can handle it. No, no, no. Gosh, no. Because anybody who's hosted a big college football game can be fine.

Right. Here's the part you can say, well, Auburn doesn't have a bunch of hotels. You think Michigan's coming to Auburn to play a playoff game and staying in Auburn? Stay at Willow Point. Right. They've got new golf cottages at Wicker Point. They're in good shape. They're fine. Okay. Fine. Okay. What the heck happens? I've seen them. Joe Moultrie's. You better believe me.

Stay right there at Bruce's place. Yeah, it's perfect. He's got plenty of rooms. Well, Gus won't be there, so you can stay at Gus's house. It's going to be perfect. Jimbo has all those ranches if they go to A&M. Plenty of space. I honestly look at it like...

I know this. I know Bama completely redid their field in the offseason in preparation for a home playoff game. Oh, they're not going to host high school playoff games there because it might be a conflict. Total, but that's... I'm talking they're probably one of 15 teams that are probably preparing for this instance and in the event which...

you aren't prepared and you get a home playoff game well you know what i'm not prepared to win the lottery but i'll go buy that helicopter like i'll figure it out like we'll make it work right you know what i'm saying i mean i i think it's going to be fine but i do and i always listen when it comes to these college these people that run college you know sectors they've gotten really smart um

And they always create just a sliver, just a sliver of an out with their words. Like you've got to listen to their words very, very carefully. I mean, you listen to Greg Sankey. You listen to some of these guys like very pick and choose their words very carefully because there's always a sliver of protection built into everything they say. It's smart. It's strategic and it's smart. Yeah, it's –

Helps you avoid probably litigation and some liability comes into concern there. But I just don't think we like hearing it that way per se, even though sometimes you're trying to move that goalpost because you have different things that could pop up and you want your CYA, as Coach Trickett used to tell us.

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Rich Clark comments on home playoff games for the new 12-team college football playoff. But first, we're going to get to our top three. 800-239-9569 if you want to get in. You can text in 205-834-9450. Tweet us always. Be a part of the show that way at Mac and Cube. Damian, what's on tap for our top three today? Well, as we know,

July the 11th, as much as I would love for us to go down in our Lil' Kim discography, because today is her birthday, we're going to keep it on the gridiron. We're going to keep it on the gridiron. And we've looked at teams that have been quote-unquote underrated or undervalued going into 2024, but who are the top three teams that you think are overvalued slash overrated heading into 2024?

Top three most overrated teams in college football as of today. I'm going to start just with Michigan, mainly because I just don't think they can be anywhere near where people think they're going to be. Now, it doesn't mean that they won't have a good season. It doesn't mean that they won't be pretty good. I'm not hating on them, but I just don't think Michigan is necessarily that good.

Top ten? I find that hard to imagine. I think the defense is going to be really good. Not even top ten? I'll give you Florida State next. DJ Uyunglele cannot carry a team. He is not going to be a franchise quarterback. He's not going to be a guy that can go win games on his own. And I just don't know if they have enough around him to be that team again. I'm not saying they won't be good. But five, six, seven where some people have them slotted heading into the season,

Can't allow that. USC would be next. Whether it's 7 or 27, it's too high. I just don't think they're going to be great. So those would be my top three most overrated teams heading into the season. Got absolutely no problem with any of those three. But I will also... Let me quickly preface, Greg. Asterisk. Those are three teams that a lot of people are just always going to have being extra no matter what because of who they are. So...

Some of it, I will say, is probably not necessarily due to people really believing it. It's just, oh, it's Michigan. Oh, it's SC. So I will say that. I will admit that. That's fair. All right. I can be on board with that. So in an effort to be just the tiniest bit different, I'll start with Arizona.

Everyone points to the productivity returning and the pieces that are back. Don't disagree. Coach walks out, there's going to be some sting. I think there's a bit of a hangover there. I think they lost some really good players on defense that people don't really want to acknowledge, especially along the front. I mean, there's a reason why Texas said, yeah, I like that Tavea guy. We'll go get him.

I think they have a couple of good players in the second level and the third level, but I think this is a line of scrimmage league in the Big 12, and I think Arizona could come back to earth pretty quickly this year after what was a really nice season last year. Pretty good play call, Argonne. Pretty good everything. Culture guy, everything. Jed was doing a lot of things well. I think there's just so much focus on...

There's so much focus on, oh, well, Tetra Roll McMillan's back. Oh, well, Noah Fafita's back. They're going to be fine. I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. So that's one. Two, I would go SMU, but I mean, how high are our people on SMU? That's kind of my question. There's a huge, huge jump from...

where they were in the American, which is good. It's fine. But SMU wasn't as good in the American as Cincinnati and UCF a few years ago. They didn't play Pac-12 opponents on a weekly basis the way BYU did for many years prior to joining the Big 12.

Just to lay it out for you, Greg Kelly Ford, his power rankings, SMU at 27 since we had him on the show. A lot of people think they're a fringe top 25 team, and I can understand people being real fired up about what they got. I'm going to probably press pause a little bit on that. I just don't think that there's a whole lot of reason to believe that they're going to jump right into the ACC, which I think is a pretty good league.

and all of a sudden just start taking names. I just have a real hard time with that. So I just, I'm having a tough time there. So I will say, I'll say SMU too. And then number three, and it's a tough one. It really is. I'm having a tougher time with Missouri than most. It's not because I don't think they have weapons.

They absolutely have weapons. I still think they're a fringe top-ten team, but this talk of playoffs, I think they are a top-ten team, to be honest with you. But this talk of playoff lock and anything less than playoffs disappointment, like, hang on a second, we're talking about a team that won four games last year by one score. They're 4-0 in one score games. That is difficult to replicate. And people will look at the schedule and say, oh, well, you know, I think their schedule's a little tougher than people realize, to be honest with you.

I don't think A&M is just some pushover on the road. We know going to BAM is tough. Mississippi State on a road late in the year.

Mississippi State might need it for a bowl game. That's not an automatic W. Catch Auburn on the wrong day, catch Oklahoma on the wrong day at home. I don't know, man. I think Missouri, this talk of 10 wins bare minimum, it's a tough plateau to reach. It really is. I agree with you on the one-score games. Think about how many years we said Nebraska was automatically going to turn those into wins.

And year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year it never happened. So to think that Missouri's one score wins would just stay wins. We've seen both sides of this one. We've seen it. John? Number three for me is Michigan. I definitely don't think they'll be a bad team. I just don't know if

They'll be that high when it comes December. I imagine them being really at best fourth in the conference, maybe third or so, but not a top 10-ish or so team that everyone's kind of saying right now. Number two, as Greg mentioned, Arizona. Number one, Penn State. And maybe it's because I don't trust James Franklin, but I understand probably maybe why they're –

ranked this high right now. Okay, the roster looks fairly good, but I have yet to see him win a real big game there, and you're telling me he's going to host a home playoff game now? Nah. Because I think ultimately, even though they may have the talent on the field...

They're going to fall apart somewhere. They're going to pull a Penn State, pull a Franklin, and lose at least one game they're not supposed to. Yep. Yeah. Penn State's the number one most overrated team. I have Penn State as my number three for the same reasons that you hit, John. Number two, I've got Florida State, and I agree with you 100%, Cole. I just...

DJ, you is not that guy. And maybe he hits a resurgence that we just he goes back to his 2020 days in Clemson. But I just don't know if he's that guy that can anchor this team and put them in the same position or even around the same position that they were last season with Jordan Travis. And number one, I have Mizzou as well, because I just I find it difficult.

that Mizzou has truly made that leap to be one of these teams that are contending for a college football playoff spot and winning and locking it and securing it and saying, I agree with you, Greg, like, they're a lock for the playoffs, but yet I don't think they even...

I honestly think that they don't beat Texas A&M on the road, and I don't think they beat Alabama on the road. I don't think they get it done, but I do understand the pieces with Brady Cook, Luther Bird, Theo Weiss. Like, you're going to be – you don't have the Cody Schrader hang your hat. You can hang your hat with him in the backfield this season, and I just think they're not –

They're not there yet. I do think they're going to be a good team, but I don't see them truly locking in a playoff spot saying Missouri is one of the best teams playing football for a national title this season. So I've got Mizzou as my number one.

All interesting, the Penn State ones, one we hadn't spent enough time talking about, and I think they're probably going to be the highest ranked team on average of all that we spoke of. Michigan may be in that mix. I'm just looking at Kelly Ford rankings right now because we had him on the show earlier. He's got Michigan at 12. He's got Penn State at 6. Missouri at 15, who we discussed. USC at 20, who we discussed. Arizona at 25. SMU at 27.

Some of the teams that we talked about. Michigan at 12 feels about right to me. That's about where I would have them. About. Not a top 10 though. I'm fine with that, but there's a lot of people that have. Correct, right. Right. Yeah. One thing quickly kind of to follow up what you just said, Damian. A Clemson resurgence for DJ Uyunglele? I don't think Florida State fans want that. Clemson DJ went an entire season and had more interceptions than touchdowns. Ouch.

What you're referencing are two games in backup duty in 2020 where he threw for 342 and 439, four touchdowns, no interceptions against Boston College and Notre Dame. The next year, that's not the guy. If they get that guy who completed 55% of his passes, nine touchdowns and 10 picks and had zero 300-yard passing games,

Not a one? But a Fansville appearance. Okay. And that's where the curse begins. That's what you need. That's where the curse begins. What more do you need? Go for it. I think Florida State's going to be pretty good, but the thing about it is I don't see a lot of people that are real high on them. I feel like they're pretty appropriately rated. They're a little bit of wait and see. Not many people have them as a bona fide locked top ten.

Most people have them in the 10-15 range, which I think is about right. I feel like I've seen them more in the 7-10 range. And that's kind of where I'm like, no, I don't see that. They're going to have some talent. They're going to have some guys who can play. I just don't know if they're going to have everything they had last year. They won't have what they had last year, but do they need to? In a 12-team playoff in an ACC that might be up for grabs, to me, the one that I'm just having a real hard time with in the ACC, while I like them a lot,

I'm having more tough of a time getting totally on board with a resurgent playoff run with Clemson. I'm having a tougher time there than I am with Florida State. It's not because of DJ Uyunglele. I can promise you that. It's really more, I just think there are some inadequacies at the perimeter, on the perimeter. I think the same can be said for Florida State. I think Clemson and Florida State are very similar teams this year. Yeah.

I just think there might be a little bit more in the back end defensively for Florida State than there is for Clemson. But, man, we're kind of splitting hairs. I think Clemson's front is better defensively. I think offensive line experience would edge would go to Florida State. Skill personnel in general, probably slight edge to Clemson, but it's close. I mean, it's just it's tough, dude. I mean, the ACC is tough, which is why I'm going Miami.

To me, Miami is most like Texas from a year ago than anybody in the country. Yes, okay, you could say, well, it's Miami. They're always unnecessarily propped up in the preseason. Yeah, Texas was too, no doubt about it, for years and years and years. But if you really look at the roster, I'm talking just the roster, and pay attention to nothing else, just the roster, they have the best roster, and they have the most answers. And that, I think, should give them a leg up in that league right now.

Schedule is not impossible either for Miami. It's challenging, but it's not impossible. The road portion is a lot. At Cal, at Louisville, at Georgia Tech late, at Florida. Those are tough places to play. At USF is a challenging game, especially that offense. Year two, probably going to be able to score. Gave a couple teams fits last year that probably shouldn't have. You'll look at the schedule and say, oh man, I can't find ten wins there. You definitely can't.

Four years of college football, 300-yard passing games for DJU. Anyone? One. Wake Forest two years ago. Well, I already gave you two of them earlier. So three. It's three. Wake Forest is the one missing. It's cooking. 371. Five touchdowns. No picks in that game. He balled in that game. He really did. That's great. Yeah. It's in there. Is it? It's in there.

How deep do we have to go to get it? That's the thing, man. I mean, quarterback is a metal position. How easy will it be for other teams to offset it? Quarterback is a metal position, dude. It's a metal position. I'm glad you brought up the SMU factor, and I don't really want to focus our next conversation just on SMU, but teams going to a conference and how successful they've been year one, Greg. And you brought that up with SMU, and that's what I want to take a little bit of a further look at because...

That type of top-tier success, year one in a new league, it doesn't happen often. It doesn't happen very often at all. And there are a couple of teams that I think some people have a chance to do what very few teams have done in their new conferences.

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I've got some numbers from some SEC teams, SEC players. We did this a little bit yesterday. We'll run through kind of some what-ifs, maybes, how could they, will they. And I'll start with conference realignment. Texas and Oklahoma coming into the SEC. You mentioned SMU going into the ACC. Can you name...

The last school to win a Power Five conference title in year one of that conference. Do you have a guess for who the team was that won a conference championship moving to the P5 year one in new conference? Oh, moving to the P5. Okay. No, no, no. Power Five conference. Just year one in a Power Five conference won the conference that year.

The last team to do it. The year, the team, any of the above. I'm going to say Penn State Big Ten early 90s. Okay. That's not it. But Damian, John, anything? Anyone? Was that TCU? It was not. No. It was Virginia Tech in 2004 going from the Big East to the ACC. Wow. It has been done three times. Ever. Ever.

1992, Florida State went from being an independent to the ACC, won the conference championship. 1953, Michigan State went from an independent to the Big Ten and won the Big Ten championship. That's it. It's the only time this has happened. Like you said, Greg, there are challenges that come with it that are unspoken sometimes. We don't really think about it. Don't talk about new venues, new people, different coaches, different styles. And Texas, Oklahoma, I think there are a lot more reasons as to why we could make sense of that possibly happening.

especially Texas with the year that they had last year and the abundance of talent that they currently have. But for some of those other schools, we thought a couple of those teams that went to the Big 12 last year were going to do a lot better than they did. And you ended up finding out they ran out of gas a little bit late, didn't have the bodies necessary to be able to compete for an entire season. That's the deal. That's the issue is that you're sitting there and,

I think at the end of the year, you're facing just far more challenging competition along both lines of scrimmage than you have at any other point. It's hard to make that accelerated leap. I don't care how good your NIL program is. That's why I'm really worried about Oklahoma, man. Don't get me wrong. There's a lot to like about this Oklahoma team.

You look straight up the middle of the defense with Stutzman, Bowman, bringing in Williams now at defensive tackle. You've got a couple of edge guys that I think will be able to get to the quarterback. We've talked about having a legit number one wide receiver, super talented quarterback.

But you think about then the line of scrimmage. Outside of Dominic Williams, how much do they have inside depth-wise? Quality players that can hold up in this league. We don't know. No one knows. Offensive line, what's their depth look like? Quality guys that in this league are going to be able to manage and handle things on a weekly basis. Tight end.

don't have the depth that they normally have or that you probably need to have if you're going to utilize that position in this league. So that's the scary thing about Oklahoma for me is depth at the line of scrimmage, Greg. How is that going to look for them when we get to the end of October? But that's the biggest challenge for all of them at the moment. I mean, it really is. I'm not sure that anyone can accurately answer, including Brent Venables,

including Rhett Lashley, no one really knows what they have until they go through the process that they're about to go through. I mean, guess any coach. They don't know what they have in week one. They hope that they're prepared. They hope they've done enough. And then next thing you know, they get kicked right in the teeth. I mean, look at North Carolina. I'll never forget the look on Mack Brown's face when he went to Virginia Tech three or four years, three years ago in 2021.

And got absolutely boat raced. Yeah. And their team got pushed around like you wouldn't believe. And they were, you know, one of the top teams in the country coming in that year. They were like top 15. Yeah. And got absolutely schooled. And the look on Mack Brown's face like, oh my goodness, we did not do enough in camp to get prepared for this environment and for this level of physicality. So I think...

That's kind of the challenge. I'm not super optimistic about any of those teams that are doing it for the first time. The question I'll ask you off of that is, and I'll give you a moment to think about it because you might want to think about some of the other teams. Does a first-year team in their conference this year win the conference? If you need a new ride for summer road trips, Royal's got it. My friends at Royal Automotive want to help you experience how car buying should be for Royal-owned dealerships in one location.

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I don't think it's – I mean, it's as or more likely than some of the others that some other people are going to throw out. No question. I think it's every bit as – I would feel as confident in Utah winning the Big 12 as I would any other league. Like, I feel more confident in Utah winning the Big 12 than I probably do Oregon winning the Big 10. Even though I love Oregon this year, I think they're going to be really good. They're a good football team. I don't have Oregon winning the Big 10 this year. No. But I could see Utah doing it. Yeah. John? Utah's got the best shot, but I don't think they do it. Okay. Yeah.

Let's roll that into something else with Texas. Quinn, yours. 3,749 yards passing last year. Fourth all-time in school history. 69% of his passes completed. That's the best completion percentage for a quarterback in a Texas uniform since? Colt McCoy. In 2009. No Texas quarterback has ever won a Heisman Trophy. Will Colt McCoy be in New York?

I'm not asking if he's going to win the trophy. Quinn yours. I'm sorry, Quinn yours. Colt McCoy should be in New York. He was in New York. Will Quinn yours? I'm talking about this year. Will Quinn yours just be in New York? I'm not asking if he's going to win it. I'm not asking you to put that out there just yet. But will he just be in New York? Yes. I would almost – I don't know if I'd go as far as to say I guarantee it because injuries and factors like that all come into account.

But knowing where the Heisman's gone. He's probably going to have the numbers. He has the branding. And his team's probably going to win a lot of the games. It's a pretty easy formula to say. How many Heisman finalists are there usually in a given year? At least three, probably four. In some cases, five. And how often are they quarterbacks? Between three and five. I'd say 85 to 90% of the time. Yeah. Yeah.

80% of the time? A lot of the time. Okay, 80% of the time. So let's say there's five guys that go. Four of them are going to be quarterbacks. How often are those four quarterbacks on teams that are ranked in the top 15? The same amount of times. These are our quarterbacks that go. Yeah, 90% and so on. 80%, 90%. So basically you're down to like 11 guys that can actually get to New York.

Which is sad. Not only win it, but just get there. That's crazy to think about it that way, but it's a fair point. It's pathetic the way it's kind of all gone down. What would you think numbers-wise...

yards, touchdowns. If you just had to put it out there for him to say he gets to that, he'll be there. Is it over 3,500? Yeah, 3,500. Around 70% again? I'd say 3,500, but I think it's as much about what he does against good teams. He's going to have some big opportunities. Georgia at home. He goes out and plays Georgia well. Goes out Red River.

You know, goes out and plays really well against, you know, I mean, you're going to have to have some Heisman moments built in there. They go to Florida. I mean, there's some good opportunities for some big marquee opportunities, you know. At Michigan?

Yeah, that's so early, though. But still, if that defense ends up being a top-five defense and he goes for 3-10 and three touchdowns and no picks, that's going to look good for a long time. No question it is, but it's so early. It is. That game will not have as much of a factor in – let me pull up Texas' schedule. That game will not be as impactful towards his Heisman candidacy as

The last guy that had a big game in Week 2 that really helped him and elevated him was Joe Burrow, but he had like six more after that. I think the game at A&M is going to be more impactful to his Heisman Canada seed than the Michigan game is. He'll get Florida in November. He's at Arkansas, got Kentucky at home in November. You mentioned the Georgia game right after Red River. So yeah, he'll have other opportunities. Here's an interesting thought on Texas this upcoming season.

Over the last three college football seasons, only three teams average more yards after the catch than the Texas Longhorns. So they would be fourth in all of college football. Before I get to that, would you like to take a guess at any of the other three?

who averaged the most yards after the catch over the last three years in all of college football. Not just the Power Five. I'll say most yards after catch is LSU. No. And in how many years? Three? The last three. Correct. Okay. Tennessee. No. Oregon. You'll just be like, what the hell was that? Oregon? Oregon.

Air Force, 8.6. Oh, yards after catch per catch. Army, 7.9. UAB, 7.7. One of those is unlike the other. Texas, 7.3. And then Georgia would be next on at 7.2. So my question around this, Greg, is we know all the chains in the skill positions.

Does Texas have enough in that department right there to again compete for a conference and national championship? Yes. Because it feels like that's been that important to their team, obviously, to be where they are. They're really good at the skills. Now, are they as good as last year? I think they're really good, but are they as good as last year? I don't know the answer to that yet. From a catch-and-run perspective, though, do you have the confidence just in that part of their skill? I think Xavier Worthy is better than Isaiah Bond.

Specifically in that area. Yes. Right. Which is what he... That's his role. Yeah. Like, that's what he's going to be. But a nine-black Sanders, very similar. I think Sanders is a little bigger. Is Matthew Golden going to give you that? Matthew Golden is going to be your third down, you know, reliable guy. And Silas Bolden is your burner. Silas Bolden will give you that. Silas Bolden gives you... He's a burner. Run after catch. Yeah. He's kind of that guy. So...

Yeah, I mean, I think it'll be really interesting to see how that's all going to work out. I think their receivers will be good. I just don't think they're going to be as good as they were last year. Okay. We'll get to a break. Come back. I've got some numbers on Auburn, Alabama. We can discuss one more on the Texas defense on the other side. Before we get there, I'll tell you about Ox Foundation Solutions. We haven't mentioned offensive line for any of these. We know that's the foundation of any college football team.

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Ranked nationally? Three. Still pretty good. 82.4. Allowed nine rushing touchdowns. 1.97 after contact. The Russ defense was best in the Big 12 in the last 10 years. We know Murphy's sweat gone up front in the middle of that defense, Greg.

How good does the Russ defense need to be and can it be anywhere near as good as it was last year for Texas? I don't see how it can be as good. They were too good up front. You can tell me, oh, well, we just have more guys now. It's not necessarily going to be two guys. It's going to be a collection of guys, three or four guys that will all rotate in. They'll be fresh and they'll have an impact on the game. Those guys were too good. You also lost a pretty good deal on Coach.

Bo Davis is great. And Bo Davis leaving for LSU? That gets my attention as well. If I'm going to be completely honest, maybe he's looking and saying, self-preservation, I got to get out of here because we're going to take a pretty significant dip next year. I always look at coaches leaving good situations for bad situations, and I think to myself, hmm, why did he do that? Right. All right, so let me ask you this. Rush defense, third in the nation last year for Texas. Past defense, 116th. Woo!

43% allowed on football thrown more than 20 yards down the field. That was 123rd in college football. Which one moves the most? Rush defense back or pass defense up for Texas this upcoming season? Pass defense up. Damian? Pass defense up. Well, that can't go much further back, but still. John, you agree as well?

Yeah, rush defense will go back some, but not nearly as much as a roll. He's also a pretty good linebacker, too, in that front seven for Texas. I don't know, man. That rush defense might not be anywhere near what it was. Their back end is going to be good, though. They're going to rush the passer. That will help. Coach Sanderson will help us next. This is McElroy and Cubelik in the morning. At your job, do you ever have to deal with a nose roller? How about a snub pulley?

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