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And so when you come into town, there's a Hollywood-style sign that says dildo, and people come from all over Canada, all over the world, just to go take a selfie in front of the dildo sign. Somebody got to cue me, or do I cue myself? Cue yourself. Okay. Hey, everybody, it's another episode of Let's Talk Off Camera, so let's get talking. Today we have the one and only Jimmy Kimmel joining us. It's going to be a big show. Very excited about this one. But while we wait for Jimmy...

Let me bring in my two co-conspirators, Albert Bianchini, Jan Chalet.

Hi, guys. Hi. What have you been up to? Fill me in. Well, so this is funny because the last time we actually saw Jimmy was at the Oscars. Yes, of course. And it was when we saw all the shrinking of Hollywood, right? Everybody was half their size and we were deciding who was taking what. Oh, I was reporting in real time. Right. And so the other day, Albert comes into the office. He is so happy. I mean, just joy on his face. And he's wearing this black coat, almost like a

Peacoat. From Barney's. But like, it's warm out, Kelly. Like, there's really no reason for the coat. But Albert says, I fit in the coat. Fine.

After years, I've been in the coat. How many years? He fits in the coat! You mean like since Barney's was open? Pre-COVID. So yeah, pre-COVID. So the Ozempic didn't work, but the... Well, how do you pronounce it, Kelly? Okay, so Albert and Kyle pronounce it Moonjaro, which I prefer, but I saw the commercial on TV. It's

Manjaro. Manjaro. Like manja. Manja. Manja. Manja arm. Manjaro. How much weight have you lost? Well, I'm down like seven pounds and it's only been a week and a half. It's the King Kong of weight loss drugs. It's crazy. So is that what they were all on? All of Hollywood? I don't know, Jimmy. What was everybody on?

Yeah, I'd love to get in on this because I've never heard of Monjaro. And boy, I wish I had. Okay, we're going to bring you in right now. The man himself, you know him as the late night talk show host, otherwise known as Jimmy Kimmel. Also, the honorary, did not know this, honorary mayor of Dildo, a town in Newfoundland.

So let's get right to it. Welcome, Jimmy. Thank you. Also, the new spokesperson for Monjaro. How do you spell Monjaro? M-O-U-J... Wait. M-O-U-N-J-A-R. Monjaro. Well, Kyle sings in a Monjaro jingle, but it's different. Oh, you should play it. Pull it up and play it for Jimmy because...

Jimmy likes to turn things into primetime musicals. So maybe Munjara, the weight loss musical is coming to ABC. This is Kyle's jingle for Munjara. You ready, Jimmy? Okay, I'm ready.

I like it. I mean, it's, you know, it's tough to top ho, ho, ho Ozempic, but that's pretty solid. Jimmy, when you had your weight loss,

You did it the old-fashioned way, right? I'm still doing the old-fashioned way, yes. Struggling getting a little box full of food in the mail every night and eating it sadly while those around me eat a delicious lunch. Here's the thing. Albert's family invented...

resolving with food. Always. Everything is a, like you can't go to Albert's house without there being a full spread of food and then there's, and then there's the meal. Like there's a full spread. Yeah, it's just like that at my house. It's exactly the same thing. It's like my mother will make three kinds of bread. Yeah.

This is how my wife was, I wouldn't say introduced to the family so much as abducted and forced into the family. My mother made for March birthdays, which is a thing in our family because there's a bunch of them. My mother made five cakes, five whole individual different styles of cake and

We were headed to a charity event that day. It's this LA Loves Alex's Lemonade. It's a great charity, and all the great chefs from around the country come, and they cook, and they set up little stands, and you go from stand to stand, and it's a lot of fun. Well, we made the mistake of stopping by my parents' house on the way there. My mother made my wife, who weighs, you know, about 102 pounds...

a slice of each cake. She had to eat five slices of cake before she left. And at that point, it was before we got to the, no, I'm not eating any cake stage of our family relationship. And it was really, it was just a big fight. Mom, she doesn't want five slices of cake. So in our family, food not only doesn't end arguments, it starts arguments. It's just a circle of arguments.

Of fighting is what it is. So your mom is the food pusher. Oh, she is a food pusher. You cannot possibly eat enough to make her happy. I've said to her, as you get old and you start thinking about this stuff, you know this is not healthy. Why is it that I've never seen you eat and yet you are not happy unless I've eaten six? If you go for seconds, she's going to ask you if there's thirst. So you just have to learn that

All right, one is enough. There's going to be a fight regardless, so you might as well just eat a reasonable amount of food. When I was dating Sarah Silverman, the first time my parents met her, my mother had bagels and lox set up. I know she's Jewish. She must eat bagels. It's a weird thing because my wife is like you, Kelly. She's in good shape. She exercises. She eats.

She does all these things. And genetically also, she's been dealt a good hand. Your wife is genetically gifted also. She's been dealt a good hand. Yes. But my mother acts like she's the one who's unhealthy and she's got to eat more. And we're the ones. All the big sea monsters laying around the house.

We're the ones who are doing it right. It's really, it's interesting. And I don't think enough study has been done. I think we tend to joke around about it, but it really is. It's destructive in some ways, right? I mean, why would you want your kids to be unhealthy? Obviously she, she doesn't want that, but she cannot resist the urge to fill us full of food until we burst. It's a very straight. We have a very strange, uh,

disassociated mentality with food. I do remember, and I don't know if I've ever told you this, but maybe I have. We were out to dinner once years ago. We went with Regis to dinner at like Mastro's in LA or something. You remember this? Yeah, I do. I think it's the first time we went out to eat. Yeah. And you ordered a steak and it was a big steak. I remember thinking like, oh, that's a big steak. And always in the back of my head,

I will eat whatever the people around me don't. In the back of my head, you ordered us a steak. And I remember you eating the whole steak and it was a big steak. And I was like, I've never seen such a small person eat that much meat. You know what, Jimmy? I knew you were paying, so that's why I... That was one thing about eating with Regis. You're famously generous.

You're famous eating with Regis. You're definitely paying. Well, it's so funny because we got like, we got used to like always, you know, picking up the check. And I think Mark went to grab the check and you had already like pre like you had paid for it before we even got there. I, yeah, I don't, I am.

I have too much anxiety for that sort of thing. I just want to get it at the beginning. I'll pretend to go to the bathroom. I'll find the waiter somewhere in the restaurant. Usually I mistake the waiter for someone who I think is our waiter for someone who is not our waiter.

I just hand a stranger my credit card. And then I can relax the rest of the meal because otherwise you don't know exactly when it's going to come. Usually it's around dessert. Usually it's after dessert. But I don't want to, you know, if you have one end of the table, whatever, I want to make sure that I get that check. I mean, not that anybody was hurting, but I did especially feel like

I think you guys were guests on the show. So that extends to the whole evening that you're guests. Right. And it was because at that point we had been, Mark and I had gotten into this place of like, we should pick up the check because Jimmy had us on the show. So we should pick up the check. Yeah. I don't look at it like that. I look at it as a favor to me. Well, so you taught us though, to as soon as you walk in, pass off the credit card. Right. And so Seacrest is,

Seacrest, about seven or eight years ago, upped the ante with Mark walking in, handing the maitre d' his credit card as we're being seated, and he says, oh, Mr. Seacrest already took care of the check. And I was like, took care of the check? How? This isn't even his city. He doesn't... So he did the old phone ahead, here's my credit card. That's a strong move. I've only had that happen once before, and it's with this like...

executive who... I think he has like six dinners a night, six meetings. He's like one of these crazy people. And yeah, at the end of the meal, the check didn't come. I was like, can we get the check? And the waiter's like, it has already been taken care of. Yeah. It's weird. It's a baller move. Ryan probably bought the restaurant ahead of the meal. He did. He actually did. He bought the restaurant. So I want to talk to you. I want to go back for a minute and talk about you being...

the mayor of dildo. How did that come about?

Let's see, how did that come about? Well, first of all, we found out there was a town named Dildo. Yes. So that was step one. I don't remember, something happened there. There was a local news story. And of course, I was tickled by this nonsense. And I think there was still like Trump stuff going on. It really felt like a nice departure. It felt like something I could focus on. Sometimes you need a palate cleanse with a dildo. Yeah, something very dumb. Like there was a politician named Harry Balls

who I was really interested in for a long time, couldn't stop talking about. And then I started to learn a little bit about dildo and people from the town started reaching out

and it just became this thing. We sent Guillermo to Dildo. Dildo's hard to get to. It's a three flight situation to get to Dildo. But we sent Guillermo to Dildo and the whole town came out, which is not that many people, but the whole town came out. They gave me a plot. I actually, I don't know if I own it or it's there for me, a plot of land for, I guess, when I retire and take over. And we put up a sign. We built a replica of the Hollywood sign.

that says dildo and it's big. We put it up in the hills. And so when you come into town, there's a Hollywood style sign that says dildo and people come from all over Canada, all over the world just to go take a selfie in front of the dildo sign. You know what? Put that on our travel list. You know, when we travel with the podcast, I would like to see, I would like to see dildo. Is it near Regina? Yeah.

Well, you know, it depends on its mood. No, it's not near Regina. It is in Newfoundland. That's in Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan, right. But it's a beautiful place in the summer. It's very, I think, cold in the wintertime, but there's a lot of lakes. It's Canada. I'm going. I want to go see your dildo sign. Yeah.

I really do. I'd love to have you in dildo. I love stuff like that. I am like functionally a 12-year-old boy. I really am. So that's my brand of humor. I love it so much. I love it too. And I know it's silly and I've just kind of decided a long time ago, oh, well, it's funny. It is. You're right. So did you know, okay, I don't know if you followed this at all, but I have the Court TV app. There, I said it. I'm

I'm not ashamed. And I watched this Gwyneth Paltrow ski trial because first of all, I was very angry on behalf of Gwyneth Paltrow, a person I do not know. Like she's been on my show once or twice. She's done a cooking segment on my show. Yeah. And it's not uncommon for a person to sue a celebrity with the hope that the celebrity is not going to want to go through the trial and

And you have to hand it to her for putting herself through the trial. I give her all the props because, you know, Mark Consuelos would have said to me, just settle with this guy and let's move on with our lives. He'll say things like, he says pointless things to me. Do you want to be right? Or do you want to be happy? He's ultimately correct.

I don't operate like that. I'm not, maybe it's the Italian thing. I don't know. Justice is very important to me. If I did, if I was forced to settle with him and I'd done nothing, I would have probably followed him to a ski area and went barreling into him at some point just to get my money's worth. But yes, I did somehow, my name got mentioned in that trial. As famous as you are, and you are very famous.

That, to me, elevated your fame level. I was like, everybody, download the Court TV app now and I want you to rewind three minutes because it was so great to hear them reference and play this clip, but as

As a late night talk show host, does it give you pause? Now even the guests are going to start minding their P's and Q's more than they already do because they're afraid that it's going to be used as evidence against them in a sham ski trial.

I know. If I was on the jury, that to me would cinch the case. I'd be like, okay, this is nonsense. She's on a talk show trying to be funny and telling funny stories about her life. You can't take that literally and enter it into court. I mean, it is funny, though, when you realize like, oh, most of these lawyers are stupid. I call it the Jimmy Kimmel defense. The Jimmy Kimmel defense.

I'm clumsy. Yeah, that was weird. I wasn't paying close attention to that trial, but all of a sudden people started texting me and going, hey, you're mentioned in this thing. And I was just glad I wasn't a defendant for once. You know, I was talking to...

Matt Hiltzig. Oh, yeah. My crisis management guy. We were talking about like to settle or to go to trial, right? Like it was, I was just saying like, I don't have that in me to settle. Yes, that's right. I'm a natural born warlord.

Yeah, it's unfortunate that that's how it works, but I'm with you. I can't let things go. I just can't. And sometimes I'll wait five years and strike. Yeah. It's weird because like my daughter is now interested in it. She's eight years old.

The most vengeful time, 8 to 11. She loves it. You know, she's like, what are you going to do? I look over at my wife. She's like, you better. I don't want this kid growing up like you. And but I can't resist. Have you ever been sued for something you've said on the show?

Oh, many, many, many times. I've been sued. Irish people were mad when I made a joke about Irish people getting drunk and fighting on the Oscars. A couple of people filed complaints with the FCC. I just read an article. Meanwhile, I was like, I'm like 40% Irish. You know, it's like, he's racist. I think Liam Neeson even said I was racist. It was a guy I know. Like, I'm racist. I'm Irish. How can I be racist? I guess, I don't know. I guess you can't.

I mean, I've experienced it myself, so I don't even know why I'm surprised. I mean, I think like it goes with the territory. If you, even if you host a program that's supposed to be humor based, you run the risk of somehow upsetting. Yeah, you just have to not care. I think that's what I've learned and it took me a really long time to learn it. And now I've just, I don't care. I don't want to know about it. It will go away in four days. Yeah.

unless I feel I've actually done something wrong, I don't wanna hear anything about it. When people send those kinds of things, that just tells me something about them. - Yes, yeah, got it. - That's the kind of thing,

like distant relatives. And usually it's, it's in some kind of, it's disguised as a defense of you. It's like, ah, kid, this jerk and I'm gonna, you know, whatever. And it's like, you know what? I wouldn't even have seen that had you not sent it to me. Thank God you sent me that daily examiner article. Yeah. Sometimes it's like you actually have to sign up for it to read the article that says something bad about, you know, like I'm not registering for this. Yeah. But apparently you did, you know,

So I want to get to the Oscars because you are without question, hands down the best host of the Academy Awards. Wow. That is not true, but thank you for saying that. No, you are. Do you ever worry about pissing off anybody in the audience or members of the Academy? Well,

First of all, I would say that I think that what you're doing backstage is much harder than what I'm doing. It's a can't-win situation. You don't know who's coming. You don't know when they're coming. You don't really know what's going on on stage because you're back there doing your own show. I think that's very, very difficult and impressive that you can do that.

As for me, I think about it, you know, I prepare for a long time for this show. Most of it is thought through, it's prepared. I do, like, I was hanging from a harness before the show. I was in the ceiling, and I had some jokes about Rihanna and her baby. Rihanna was supposed to be in the audience, potentially with her baby, and my wife came out. This must have been four minutes before the show started, and she's like,

No Rihanna. No Rihanna. She's not, you know, whatever. And so I was like, okay, cut the thing and go from that to whatever. And she had to run to the prompter and cut the Rihanna chunk that we had. And so there are always like last second emergency type situations because you cannot, that's one thing you can't predict or rely on the people who you are hoping to be in the audience to be in the audience. And that sometimes is key to making the jokes because you're

If they're not there, it doesn't necessarily work as well. So I had that to deal with. There's a lot of moving parts. You don't know who's going to win. I mean, you really don't know who's going to win any of the categories. Occasionally, at the beginning when we started the Oscars, I tried to get a heads up. I'm like, you know, like 10 seconds beforehand, I'm like, who's going to win this one? So I know what I'm going to say or whatever. They're like, well, we don't know. We really don't know. They don't know until that envelope is open. So I...

Everything is a combination of very prepared and totally unprepared that you have to figure out. And as far as the Academy goes...

You know, they did decide amongst themselves quietly to ask me to host the show. So already I figure like, okay, they like what I do. And when you've done it before, they know what you're going to do. At least they have a general idea of what you're going to do. And quite frankly, I didn't run any of the jokes by them. The day before the show, I did a rehearsal. I ran through the jokes. I'd done no rehearsals. I'd sent no jokes before that. And

No one said anything other than ha ha ha. And I went on and did the monologue the next day. And the celebrities, the advantage that I do have, I think, is that because of my job, and I think you understand this, I've had like almost like a speed dating situation with most of the people sitting in the front. So I've had conversations with them, not necessarily personal conversations, but I do have some relationship issues.

to them. Did you talk to Brendan Fraser after he won? Oh, it's such a thank, well, thank God you asked that question. I was going to ask you if you could figure out what was happening.

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What would you say? He floated by. He floated by. He slowed down and gave us a drive-by. Thank you. Thank you so much. And then started sobbing and just kept going. It was so bizarre. To the point where we went, we're so sorry. And I was like, why didn't we just apologize? He just won an Academy Award. What did you make? Could you make sense of what was happening? I saw him moments before that. I saw him. He

He was alone backstage, I think headed towards you. Okay. Moments after he won the Academy Award. No one was with him. A stage manager was leading him backstage. And I've never seen anyone...

More in shock. I really think he was in complete shock. And I said, and I'm going to try to remember exactly, and you captured his tone perfectly. He looked, he was all teared up. And I said, hey, congratulations. And he goes, what happened? And I thought he was kidding, you know? And I said, what? He goes, what happened? I go, what?

Well, you know, you just won the Oscar. And he goes, was it okay? And I go, well, what do you mean, was it okay? He goes, what did I say? I said, oh, you gave a really, you gave a very nice speech. He's like, it was okay? I said, yeah, it was great. It was good. He goes,

Thank you, Jimmy. And then he wandered off to you. And I thought, oh, man. That's where we picked it up. This is a guy who really didn't think he was going to win. I mean, he was, it seemed like somebody had hit him hard on the head with a pan. From our vantage point backstage, we have this one television monitor that Michael Gelman is standing in front of.

And then there's like four other Academy members there to make sure that we don't turn the volume up because I guess it could create feedback because we're off stage but we're close enough to the stage. So the Academy members and Gelman are basically sucking all of the sound in.

into their ears. We can't hear what's being said and we can no longer see who's won because there are four heads in front of our computer-sized television monitor. That's called, that's not producing, that's reducing. Reducing. Reducing. We are being reduced. And then, so Jan said the speech made no sense.

Jan, there was a nautical theme. I don't know if you remember, but there was a nautical theme to the speech. Was there? Because we don't see or hear anything. It's a surprise to us when the winner comes around the corner. The position you're in is like you're it's like you're working in an emergency room. You've got a bunch of shell shocked people coming in with head trauma. And then you have to stick a microphone in their face and get something out of them. It's.

It's like a psychiatric car crash. There's like a lot of different components going around. I think a lot of them are also starving. We scored a lot of points for putting pretzels under the seats this year. Yeah. Because people come, you know, and they just, they want to fit into whatever they're fitting into. You know, I had a tuxedo from...

I think it was from when I hosted the Emmys in 2020. And so we were supposed to shoot some promos a couple of months before the Oscars. And, you know, we made the plan. We wrote the promos. We were going to wear the tuxedo. Nobody really thought, I wonder if Jimmy still fits in this tuxedo. And it turned out that Jimmy did not fit in the tuxedo. Oh, no. And I look like a balloon animal, you know? It was like a bunch of, like, just kind of bulges all tied together. And my wife...

Is on the set and she just goes, okay, we're going to reschedule the shoot. And I'm like, what's going on? She's like, you don't fit into this tuxedo. It's ridiculous. And I don't want, I'd rather that wasn't enshrined in Oscar history. And that's why I believe in Monjaro. Monjaro. So good. Let me ask you this before I go back to

last year's Oscars, the year that you did not host. And I texted you and I was like, aren't you glad you didn't host? And you actually said that you were sorry you weren't hosting. Yeah, I would have loved to have been up there when that happened. I mean, I loved it kind of thing. What would your take have been?

Um, I don't know in those situations, like when they open the wrong envelope and read the wrong winner, I'm super focused, like to the point where it's almost in slow motion. And I love it. There's something about it. I don't love being on television. I given the choice of

you know, doing like a radio show and having the same salary, et cetera. That's what I would pick. I, I like to be somewhat behind the scenes, not entirely behind the scenes, but I'm more comfortable as a writer or whatever. I don't have, I don't like need to go do standup on the weekends or any of that stuff. But, uh, and this is the big caveat, uh,

There are moments like that where I have a sudden and intense urge to be in the middle of it. That is, that makes me sad if I can't be in the middle of it. And what I've learned from doing a lot of talk show, I mean, a lot of award shows is

is that you have to be nimble. You have to be able to get on stage if something happens. And some of these shows are so planned. Everything is planned out to the second that they don't, I think they made the hosts wait 18 minutes or something after Will Smith, after that happened, before they were even on stage. So they didn't even have the chance to react.

And in a way, those situations are like, it's like being an athlete and getting to have an at-bat in the ninth inning of the World Series. You know, it's like those situations, I really, I love them. You know, I am most alive in those situations. Gelman would have sent me out there and said, break that up. He'd be like, you get in there and break that up.

And I'd be like, but I'm a girl. You're a mom. You're also a mom. Now get out there and separate them and make them apologize. You're also a mom. You probably could have broken that up. I would have handled it in real time. But I'm glad I wasn't there. And thank God Chris Rock handled it as well as he did because that could have gone 30 different ways. He didn't tear up. He didn't try to go after him and

make it worse. He didn't scream or do any of the crazy things that a lot of people might have done. And then for him not to resolve it when he gave his speech...

after he won was a very, very big mistake, I think. It was quite clearly the wrong thing to do. But I've also seen this guy, Will Smith, genuinely be one of the nicest people. And I, you know, I know everybody's nice to me. But I'll tell you something, my staff, you know, they tell me what's going on. And you see it with the way he handles the audience off camera. I'm

I mean, I met him when I wasn't even, you know, when I was hosting a game show, I met him at a Lakers game and he couldn't have been nicer and more like complimentary. And, you know, nobody watched that show. I mean, I get recognized once a month. And so I remember that kind of stuff for sure. And he's, that was definitely the wrong thing to do. I also think it would be a real shame if someone's whole life is judged by one terrible moment.

And I really wish those guys would make up. Yeah. I really wish. It's funny. I remember when we were texting and you said it's the two nicest men in show business. I mean, Chris and Will are the nicest people I've ever met. Really. I mean, really, truly like kind to everyone. I talked to Chris like.

I think it was less than a week after it happened. We talked for a long time. And I think ultimately it worked out. I think he made the... I wouldn't say it worked out well for him, but I think he made the very, very best of the situation, where he handled it artistically. He made an event out of it. He got to say what he wanted to say. And now hopefully, I hope...

because I mean, I always root for people to make up. You know, I will always accept an apology if I feel it's sincere. Always. It doesn't matter what it is. If I feel it is sincere, I will always accept it. But I do hope that they at some point put it behind them because I think it would be a I don't know. I think it's just like a good thing for I know maybe this sounds stupid, but like for the country, it would be a good thing for America. Yeah, for America. Speaking of America, I

I've read this article that the Trump administration was trying to get Disney to stop you from telling jokes about him on your show. Is that true?

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I've read this article that the Trump administration was trying to get Disney to stop you from telling jokes about him on your show. Can you confirm that? I mean, I did not. ABC never asked me to stop telling jokes about him on the show.

I did once have a conversation with someone from ABC who was kind of hinting, but I said, no, I'm not going to do that. And that was it. That was the last I heard of it. But I have to believe that it's true. I mean, it seems to be very well sourced. And I'm also grateful that it never got to me because I think that falls in the category of I don't need to know about everything. And I know that ABC at the

around that time was trying to buy Fox and they were tiptoeing around at that time, which you certainly shouldn't have to do.

with a president, I mean, it's business. It's ridiculous. He should have bigger things to worry about. Yeah, his opinions. Any president should have bigger things to worry about. Right, but then when reality hits and you go, okay, this guy's grudges seem to result in action and people are, and you can't blame them really. And when I say people, I'm mostly talking

Republican politicians, they are fearful. They are terrified of him. He rules through fear because they know he's a loose cannon and they know that he will go to every length. I mean, you know, this guy, he sees Ron DeSantis, who probably agrees with him on everything, suddenly getting popularity and he tries to float the idea that he's a pedophile out. I mean, it's ridiculous, you know? And it's so dirty and so...

befitting a president of the United States that it's shocking, but it also is what it is. And this idea that he's crazy does work in his favor, you know? But you can't help but feel if he'd been hugged 14 times by his parents that...

we'd be in a lot better shape as a country. And I'm also glad that no one ever pressured me in any real way to stop talking about him because that would have been very, very, very disappointing. Yeah, I agree with you. So I want to talk about the way you use your talk show is admirable, right?

You know, I watch you every night. I find you funny. But you also use your platform for such good without making your audience feel preached to or anything. You really do, like, use it for good. And, you know, I just – there was so much about Billy, your son Billy. I know you have four children. I can't believe your older kids are, what, 31 and 29? Yeah. Yeah.

Katie. 31-year-old daughter, Katie, and Kevin's 29. Kevin is 29. And then we have Jane, who is eight, and Billy, who's six now. Wow. So I can't believe he's six. Wow. But I remember when he was born, and it was so scary. I had never heard of TOF. Never heard of that before. Yeah. Me neither. What is that?

It's Tetralogy of Fallot. It is basically a heart defect. He actually had more than one heart defect. He still does, but it's repairable. A lot of people find out that their child has this before the child is born, which is

a huge head start. That's why ultrasounds are so important. We actually had special ultrasound done because the doctor thought there might be something weird and they did like a more intense ultrasound and they didn't see anything, which was unfortunate because once the baby comes out, there's a valve that closes within an hour. And once it closes, you have to go do a surgery to reopen it. And if you can...

get there right away, you can fix that stuff. You get a big head start on fixing it. But...

We didn't know anything about any of this stuff and still don't know a ton about it, to be honest. I mean, I try, you know, I study it. I think you reach a certain age where you're like, God, I can't learn anything else. Medically stupid. But, you know, they operated on him right away and they did another operation six months later. And when they operated on him right away and I was in the hospital, it just so happened that

Congress was voting on the Affordable Care Act and Children's Hospital in Los Angeles. You don't have to have money to have your children treated there. So it's one thing to have a health situation of your own. It's another thing entirely to have your child be in that position and to see that so many families are

around the country who don't live near this hospital and who don't have good jobs, good health insurance, you know, just taking the day off to bring your child to the hospital is devastating financially. The idea that anybody would be against that when it works so well in so many other countries, you know, we're so, we think we're so special here. We're the only, it's America and the way we do everything is the right way. And the smart way would be to look at

other scenarios and go, okay, what works for them to really treat the country like a business where, you know, when Coke comes out with Coke Zero and it sells well, Pepsi goes, now we have a Pepsi Zero, you know, and it's just how it works. It's smart.

and we don't do that. What happens if your kid gets hit by a car? You need to go to the hospital. You need to be able to pay for that. Some of these issues shouldn't even be issues. We need to set them aside. Most Americans agree on that, but...

we become confused because it becomes like, oh, which color am I rooting for? And I just saw it as an opportunity. And so when this is happening, I try to go like, okay, what good can come out of this? And that was the good that came out of it, is I was able to go on TV at what was coincidentally a very crucial time in our country's history. And

And a couple of people, especially John McCain, did the right thing in that moment. And they didn't do the party thing. They did the right thing. And if you, God forbid, are not a person who's good at doing paperwork and good at navigating this kind of stuff, you're screwed and these health...

insurance companies, they're counting on you not being able to navigate and advocate for yourself. They're counting on that. You know, we just took a step in the right direction. We need to keep going because it's important to people and their families and their lives, you know? Yeah, I agree with you. How's Billy doing before we wrap? Because I know he's doing great. Yeah, he's, you know, I have four kids and they're all super funny kids and

He's the weirdest one. Actually, my dad goes, he goes, this one's the weirdest one. He's not though because, you know, sometimes you send me videos and it's always like, oh my gosh, he's doing this weird thing. And I'm like, that's just boys.

Boys do that. That's like... Well, I have another boy and he's pretty weird. You just forgot. You forgot. No, this one is... I'm telling you, Kelly, this is a weird kid. And I don't mean that in a bad way at all. But I mean...

Everything's a joke. He will not complete the ABCs without fucking around after R. We've almost got to Z. No, no. He will lead you and he loves it and he loves scaring us and tricking us. He's just an old-fashioned scamp is what he is. He sounds like a chip off the old block, actually. He's like me now. I was not like that when I was a kid. I was a very well-behaved...

You know, like the kid that the teachers all loved. And his teachers all do love him. But when he comes home, he's crazy. And he does really funny, weird things. As long as he saves it for home. That's what I always said. Save it for home. He'll get naked. We don't even know it. Take off his pajamas and...

You don't know he has no clothes on. And you come in the morning, morning, Billy, and then he just throws off the sheet and he's just laying there naked. And he's just delighted with himself. I had one kid, I won't name names, but I had a kid that used to say, you know when he would get his little toddler erection? Yeah. He would say, Mom, look, it's hanging fat up. Oh, man.

And I can't react to that. That's great, by the way. That's a great... That should be on t-shirts. That should be on bumper stickers. Don't let Billy listen to this. Yeah, don't tell Billy. Jimmy, we love you so much here. I love you too. I was really looking forward to our discussion. If you're not watching Jimmy Kimmel Live weeknights at 11.35 p.m. on ABC... You're not alone.

You are missing all the fun. Seriously. It's my favorite show. I love it so much. Well, you are the best. I thank you so much. This was fun. I'm happy to do it anytime. Somebody drops out, let me know. Thanks for talking to us. We love you. Thanks, Kelly. Thanks, guys. Kiss the fam. I will. Bye, Jimmy. Take care. Bye, Jimmy. Bye.

Good one. So that was a good one. He's the best. I love that man. You're the same person. We are the same person. We've said this before. We realize that we are definitely, somehow we are related. We just haven't connected the dots yet because we are the same person. I forgot to plug our game show. Yeah, you guys are doing it. Generation Gap on Thursday night starting June 29th. Yeah, you're doing a game show with him. Nice.

Love the Kimmel's. Love the Kimmel's. Both of you desperate to get off camera. Desperate to get off camera.

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