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What is up my beautiful people? Welcome back to the moments podcast. You guys still can't process we're making a podcast But here I am saying it again. I am so thankful for you. I am so excited I feel like it's been weeks since I recorded the last episode It was literally like five days ago, but the last 72 hours of my life has felt like an actual 10 years I'm doing a whole episode on what I've gone through the past couple days, but I

You guys really, I don't even know. It's been an emotional roller coaster, let me tell you that. But I'm happy to be back and sitting down. I'm recording in the car again, except this time I'm in the middle of Arizona. My mom's here. We have a special guest. We're about to get into some really fun stuff. But before I do that, if you haven't listened to episode one and two, go ahead and do that. I also just made a TikTok video.

for this podcast where I'm also going to be posting recorded clips like if you guys want to see this filmed then head over to TikTok I might get it to YouTube soon but we're not quite there yet and I'll get there and you know the drill if you don't follow the Instagram already go do that

But let me tell you guys what this episode is going to be all about. I've been so excited to record this episode. I'm a little bit nervous now that it's happening, but I asked you guys on my Instagram story, what are questions that you're scared to ask your mom, but really want to have the answers to? And you guys gave me some good questions and I'm just as scared to ask my mom, except I have to do it now because I said I was going to do it.

But I am super excited that my mom gets to be the first person that I get to have on the podcast because she is my ultimate best friend, my rock, the reason I'm making this podcast, and my travel buddy, which is why she's with me in the middle of Arizona. In the middle of... who knows? Who knows? But I'm really putting her in the hot seat, so let me just go ahead and introduce my mom, Jamie. It's so weird saying Jamie, but here she is. Hey guys!

What's up? What's up? We're nervous. Very nervous. One, because you guys know I don't like to talk in front of people. I don't even let my family watch my YouTube videos. So to have to be recording, filming, doing all of this with her, asking scary questions all at the same time, it's going to be a little awkward. But we're learning, okay? It's a learning process.

And I got my nervousness of talking in front of people from my mom. So yeah, I get really nervous talking in front of people. Even my own daughter, which sounds so weird. Yeah, and it's weird for me to not even be able to talk about these things in front of my mom, except I post them for the internet to see, and I record a podcast every week. But I don't know. I mean, we all have our weird things, and I think that that's definitely one of ours that we share. So, you know, cheers to overcoming our fears. Yes. Did that rhyme? That kind of rhymed. It kind of did. Okay, nice. Yeah.

I never imagined being in the hot seat in front of Burlington Coat Factory. Yeah, well, you guys, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna spill the beans. I was supposed to be in a van. We were supposed to be in a van. I was supposed to buy a van. I bought a van. We had some issues. No more van. I want to do a whole episode talking about this just because it's been a really emotional rollercoaster and it's been a really hard thing to process, but...

That's kind of the basis of it. My dream got a little bit crushed. I know that I'm in the happening and I know that I'll find the reason soon, but you know what? We still get to be on this trip. We still get to do a road trip. We ended up renting a car and we're driving to Texas.

but soon enough i'll be able to take you guys through that whole entire story i have footage of everything that's going to be painful to watch but i do want to share it with you guys i just need you to be give me some grace some patience i'm handling a lot of emotions when it comes to this van so i promise it's coming soon and that's not what you guys are here to listen to anyways you guys want to hear me ask my mom really embarrassing questions about things like

Oh, I can't even say thing. I can't. I'm so immature, you guys. I can't even say the S word. Like, I literally can't even say. Oh, no. Guys, this is going to be fun. But we're going to start out with some easier questions because I need some time for myself to get used to this. And I think that my mom does, too. Yeah, I need to warm up a little bit. We definitely need, like, a warm-up round. For sure, for sure. Okay.

So a lot of you guys know, if you did listen to the first episode, that I had a really hard time in middle school, in college, and then in Hawaii too. I've had a lot of rough patches, and I think that as I've gotten older, it's gotten easier for my mom to see when I'm going through stuff and all that. But it's been such a learning process, and I think it's such an interesting thing to compare things.

what my relationship was with my mom when I first was going through like a bad mental state compared to what it is with my mom now. Like when I was in seventh grade and I was really going through it, I don't think, I don't necessarily think we had a good relationship. Like I think I was mad at you every time you tried to help me.

Always. You always got mad at me. We just fought all the time. And I think that it was just a simple lack of communication. It was, I didn't know how to process my feelings. You didn't understand what I was feeling. So we just took things out on each other. Yeah. Right. And we did. Yeah. And I think that the one thing I've really learned just growing up is that you have to communicate things because if I don't communicate it, you're not going to, you can't read my mind.

No. Like, just because she's your mom and she's your family and you guys are connected, she still can't read your mind.

You know? Yeah, and I remember you would, like, ask for help, and then when I would try to help you, you would be like, what are you doing? Like, no. I don't want that answer. I never wanted to trust my mom. And honestly, we still get in the same kind of arguments, but I just think we've navigated it a little bit more. Like, now I know she's right, but I still choose to kind of not listen, versus when I was younger and this was happening, I just...

I thought she was so wrong, and I did not want to listen to anything that my mom had to say, and I think that that's a phase that we all go through. I mean, you guys can tell me if I'm wrong, but I know that all of my friends in middle school just went through a phase where they're like, my mom is so annoying. She says I can't do this. She won't let me hang out with blah, blah, blah, and she won't let me do this, and it just sucked, but...

We grow past it. I mean, we get out of that phase. We all go through that. It's, I did the same thing with my mom. Yeah. Like I remember my mom tells me. Like they're dumb. Yeah. My mom used to tell me in high school, not when she was in high school, she tells me about stories from when she was in high school where her and her mom would get in fights because didn't she wear like blue nail polish one time? Yes. And you got in like so much trouble. Like so much trouble. She told me to go in the store and get new nail polish because we were going on a trip. So I went in the store and I bought purple nail polish.

Oh my gosh. Instead of blue. Oh, that is so rebellious of you. She just didn't like blue, but what's wrong with purple? Wait, she seriously just didn't like blue? Well, I don't know. I was being a smart aleck. So I went in and I bought purple and I took it off and I painted my nails in the back seat on the way to St. Augustine and we got there and she looked down at my nails and it was purple, which I guess was even worse than blue to her.

And I got in so much trouble. Like, I was a rebel. Anyways, that might be kind of a pointless and lame story. But moral of the story is we fight with our moms all the time. And that's totally normal. And I also just want to say, like, if you guys are struggling with anything on your relationship with your mom or wherever you're at, I just want you to know that my mom is your mom. And we're here for you. And if any of you guys ever need anything, both of our DMs are open. She's your mom today. And we're about to get into it.

Okay, so you guys asked me a bunch of questions. And I think like one of the first things that I want to ask you just because I mean, this is a question that I've always had to when I am going through like a hard place and I'm in a bad spot, like what's going through your mind when you can just kind of see me going downhill, but I won't listen to you and I won't do anything.

Well, so I guess that would have changed. Do you mean, like, when you were in middle school or do you mean, like, now? Because I feel like we've learned. Well, both. Give me both scenarios. Like, I remember when you were in middle school and you would literally text me every single day, all day long. And I would always think there was, like, something wrong with her. We went through every doctor and then I got to the point where I was just, like, shutting down and realized I just had to, like, let you go through it and kind of, like...

Let you suffer a little bit to grow. Does that sound mean? You got to suffer. You got to go through the pain. No, you're right. But you sometimes just have to like...

get through it like I couldn't like I just sat there all the time with the messages all day at work and I remember just being so sick to my stomach but then when it's every day all day you kind of get numb to it so that's when kind of like I felt like after we went to every doctor and we did everything we could like I knew you weren't gonna die and you just had to find your way through it no you guys if you listen to the first episode I I told you that when I was going through like

really, really bad anxiety and depression in middle school. More anxiety than depression. But I thought I was dying of an internal illness because my stomach hurt every single day. I didn't know what anxiety was. I didn't know that that could have a physical effect on me. And I would text my mom, like, "Mom, I'm so sick. We need to go to the doctor. We need to do acupuncture." We just, I don't even know. We tried everything.

Yeah, but I feel like as a mom, being at the age that you're at, not to like, you know, call you old or anything, but you've gone through your own phases where you've gone through the happening. You found the reason. Like, did you realize that that was going to happen for me? And that's kind of why you were just like, I just have to let her go through it.

Yes. After we went through like all of the tests and I knew you were going to be okay. I just, I just knew from experience I had to let you go through it. And did you think that I was actually dying too? Or did you know I was just like anxious? Like, did you think I was making it up when I was, when I texted you that I felt sick all the time?

No, I didn't think you were making it up. You just thought I was a little bit dramatic. You were a little bit dramatic, but that is also the age. But I also kind of felt like, what is going on at school? Like, what's making her like this? But I would ask you, like, is there a friend that's bothering you? And I wouldn't tell her anything. Like, I was full on being bullied, like, in the movies. And I wouldn't say those things. Like, I would briefly mention to her something every once in a while, but...

I don't know. I didn't want to tell you that people didn't like me and were being mean to me. Like, I didn't want to... I think it was like a I don't want to let you down thing. So I wanted it to seem like I just had this perfect life, I guess. But...

It all goes back to the fact that I just didn't communicate anything. So it makes it hard for you as a mom to actually understand what I'm going through and like know the right ways to comfort me. Because if you knew it was anxiety, it might've been like a different route of comforting versus if I just kept acting like I really just was sick and didn't feel good. Yeah. It would have been completely different. We would have taken a whole nother course. Like if I, if I knew that like,

people were bothering you or you were being bullied or, you know, anything like that. I did know it was anxiety. Um, once we went through everything and I knew it wasn't anything else, I knew it was anxiety and there's like only so much you can do to get somebody out of it. I get it from my mama. Yeah. You're just like me. Yeah. We're both a little anxious recording this if you can't tell, but I think, I think we'll loosen up a little bit. Of course.

So I think really the moral of the story with that question and this situation is just you can't expect what you don't communicate. So if you are going through something and you feel like you're at a really tough point, talk to people. Talk to your mom. Just like I've said in all the other episodes. But if someone doesn't understand what you're going through and you don't tell them, they're not going to be able to read your mind. And you're just going to kind of...

And if it's not your mom that you can talk to, like, find somebody else. I think times are so different now. Like, it's okay to talk about your anxiety. Like, when we were younger, like, people didn't talk about this kind of stuff. They didn't communicate it. Like, even when you were younger, I mean, like, this wasn't talked about. Yeah, I mean, it is so much more awesome that mental health is more talked about and...

There's so many people that you can talk to I mean text your friends just be just be aware of how you're feeling instead of trying to like keep things just be honest like get it out so much better if you talk about it. Okay another question I just wanna I'm gonna I'm gonna mix in a little spicy question because we just got really... Jeez we just got really deep so

A lot of people asked, like, do you know when your kids are lying? Because she's got three of us. I have two little brothers. So, do you know when we're lying? Because, I mean, I know things that, like, Colby does that I don't know if you know. Like, how good are your mom's senses? Oh, I totally know when you're lying to me. Really? Like, I completely... How do you know? Just so I can give the girls some tips if they do need to lie, how to do it. I'm just kidding. Guys, do not lie. Do not lie. Anyways. Be honest. And, you know what? It...

I mean, I don't know. I could be wrong. Like, I feel like you guys don't lie to me. Do you lie? I don't lie anymore, but I used to lie in middle school just about stupid stuff. But you guys knew that. You and Dad would always think I was a little liar. I always told white lies. Yeah. But I don't lie so much anymore. No, because you don't have a reason to. But the thing is, is when you would lie, yes, you would. You would lie quite often, but I would choose...

my battles with which ones I called you out on. Like I would push a lot of them under the rug because I didn't want you to know how much I knew you, how well I could read you. So I would just wait until it was like really bad where I had to take it up with you. But the rest of it was like silly nonsense stuff. And I just wanted you to kind of like be you and I wanted to see how far you would push it.

Okay. Is that weird? No, I mean, I feel like that's reasonable and it's fair. And it's also because I think you wanted to build up a trust with me where eventually I would tell you the things I was lying about. And if you were like, call me out on all my lies, I feel like I would have only kept doing it. Yeah, no, I didn't lie about anything crazy. I was a good kid. I didn't, I really was like silly stuff. That's what I never understood. It was like the dumbest, silliest. I just did it for, maybe I did it for like the adrenaline rush, like to, to just like

To see myself on the edge of my seat? Like, I don't know. I guess. I don't know. But anyways, I guess it's true that moms do have that sense and they know exactly when you're lying. So whoever put that question in...

Maybe stop lying? I don't know. Well, yeah, because your mom knows you best or your parents, you know, know you best. I mean, they did raise you. Yeah. They taught you all of our techniques that we use. We learn from our parents. So I guess it really does make sense that they have like that, that you guys have that sense of just, I know exactly what you're doing, when you're doing, what you're doing at all times.

That being said, another question that people ask a lot is, like, why are parents so strict? Like, what is it that makes you guys not let us do the things that other kids our age are allowed to do? I mean, like, I know with me, all my friends were going to high school parties before I was allowed to go to high school parties. So in your eyes, why? Why can't I do what everyone else my age is doing? Because we want to, like, keep you in a bubble. It's, like, it's something that you, like...

don't understand until you have children. Like it's such a scary world out there. And so, yeah, I wanted to like always keep you in that bubble. And I know there was a lot of kids out there like going to parties and doing all these things, but like I wanted to keep you safe.

You just wanted to protect me. I was your little baby. It's like I just wanted to keep your, like, mind innocent, and I had a crazy, like, high school and went to a lot of parties. Yeah, she was absolutely wild, and I just don't think she wanted me to be as crazy as her. Yeah, I didn't want you to. Like, anything that, like...

I went through in my life, I wanted to protect you. Yeah, I mean, I honestly can't imagine, like, having a kid, raising them, and then having to, like, watch them go to parties and go to college and go do all of that stuff. And, I mean, to be fair, I think that you guys were extra strict just because I was your first kid. Because, and because I'm a girl. Like, literally, my little brother, you guys, he's 16, and he can do whatever he wants. And he gets away with everything. So, I just like to think it's because I'm your favorite. Because you're my favorite.

You are my favorite daughter. I just got so excited. I'm your only daughter, Mom. I know, so you're my favorite. I mean, that was... Like, I wish you could have seen your face. You, like, lit up. I got... Okay, you know what? Next question. That hurt my feelings. I'm sorry. I'm just kidding. Okay, so, honestly, I don't know if someone asked this question or it was more just...

something I wrote down because it was a question that I've always had, but what are characteristics that you look for in my friends? Like who, what kind of friends do you want me to bring home? I mean, I've always had to just go with my gut instincts. Like a mom just always knows, like you would bring some friends home and I would know,

Oh, she knows exactly what's going to happen with every single friend that I ever talk about. I mean, she has not once been wrong. It's literally like a superpower. She can tell me what the exact situation is going to be months before it even happens. It really is crazy. Thinking back. Like, it blows my mind. Yeah, but really, I guess you just, you want me to bring home friends who are always, like, supporting me, looking out for me, like, want me to, I don't know, you just kind of...

You just trust it. You just trust your gut. You can tell when a friend is like your friend and really cares about what you're doing and is engaged with the family and, like, comes in the house and has conversation and looks you in the eyes. There's, like, just certain things, like, you need to. Yeah, and this is probably something that it's, like, a hard pill to swallow. But, guys, if your mom or anyone in your family says, like, I don't really trust that person, I don't really think you should have them around, you got to believe them.

Like, you just have to because they're never wrong. They're almost never wrong. And in the moment, you probably won't understand that. Never. I mean, when you used to tell me these things, I'd be like, no, mom, you're so wrong. This person is blah, blah, blah, and blah, blah, blah, and they're the best person in the whole world. And then years later, look. Full circle. It's always a full circle. But anyways, next question.

What are some of the things that you wish you did before I came into the picture? If you guys don't know, I kind of came out of nowhere. But say I didn't come out. What would you have done more of before me? Gosh, I don't know because I feel like I lived like...

a pretty full life before I had you. Like, I feel like a lot. I traveled a lot. Um, I didn't realize it at the time, but like thinking back to opportunities that like came into my life at a young age and I never said no to them. Um,

Like, took me a lot of places. I did a ton of traveling. I knew at that moment I wasn't going to be going to college. So, it wasn't like I regret that. I kind of was her little, I was her little miracle. Yeah, you were. You just, like, I really feel like you were, like, God sent you to me at the right moment in my life before. He always does. Probably, yeah. Like, I probably, like, 99% sure would have gone down a really bad path if, like, you weren't planted in me at that moment. Planted. Planted.

I was planted. You were totally planted. And then I blossomed. Into this like beautiful, amazing thing. Yeah. Oh, gross. And I used to just like. Being so affectionate. No. You can't do that. You're going to make me all emotional. You're going to start crying. No more tears. No more tears. Guys, it's been so funny. Every single time we talk about the V word. No, that sounds so bad. That's. The van. The van. The van. The van. She starts crying. Like I'll send her a TikTok of someone else's.

And she'll start crying and you'll look over and she's just tears coming down her eyes. She's more emotional than I am. I have kind of delayed emotions, so I tend to laugh things off. And when she cries, I laugh. And, you know, it's just... I think that's why we do so well with each other. Like, I'm your rock and you're my rock because... In different ways. Yeah, like...

Like I'm emotional like I really she's telling the honest-to-god truth like I can't stop crying over the van and she sits here and she's like it's happening for a reason and I know that but like we're gonna get home and she's gonna be crying and at that point I'm gonna be strong and like we're gonna be like out of the happening. It's just it's very interesting like how we work our dynamic is definitely weird, but but it's good and it works and

That being said, another question that a lot of people ask is, do you deal with anxiety and do you struggle with these things? And the answer is definitely yes. I mean, we both do. Everything that I struggle with, I got from her, so I know she feels it too. And I think that we actually help each other get past being anxious. Yeah, 100%. Like, I don't really know how I deal with my anxiety. I kind of actually...

have been learning more from you over the process like watching you go through it has taught me a lot yeah i mean i get that does it does it make you more anxious when you see me anxious like is that a mom thing that happens like when you see me struggling does it make you struggle or are you more just like all right here we go again like let me get her out of this like i don't know if i think empathetic is the right word but do you feel the emotions that i feel

I totally do feel the emotions I feel, but I, at that point, like, I kind of, like, put on my big girl panties and I turn into, like,

mom mode of like, like anxiety is taking over inside of me, but like, I don't want you to know that. So I kind of like put on this like false face and are like, come on, this is what we got to do to get through it. Like, this is what we have to do when I try to pick you up. But yeah, like I really want to like run around the corner and cry. Like, you know what I mean? Like I, I always like, I don't want you to feel my insecurities. So as a parent, I've always tried to just like pretend like everything's fine. Like what

What are you doing? Yeah, we were talking about that literally the other day. Probably yesterday. Who knows what day. Probably two hours ago and it feels like it was last year. But you don't tell me that you struggle with the same things that I do in the hopes of it just having less of an effect on me, I think. Yeah, because I don't want you to like...

I'll explain it. Like, the insecurities and the stuff that I grew up with, like, I've always wanted you to be the opposite. So I've kind of, like, tried to train you or guide you or lead you to be, like, the polar opposite of the things that, like, kept me back. Gotcha. So, like, for instance, like...

like dancing and doing things like that like I would never do that like I'm very like oh my god people are watching me I don't want to dance like I'm super insecure about that and so like I would always push you to go dance which is just so weird or like say you were like at a wedding go out let's go and come on you have to yeah because you're like oh oh she can't be like me go get out there go go and I mean I think that that's a good system and it works and it's also just like

I mean, I honestly wish I knew that sooner because it almost puts me at ease with the things I go through because in a way it makes me feel less alone, I would say, because I know where it's coming from and why I'm like that. Right. But, I mean, now I do. Now I get it. But at a younger age... Yeah, at a younger age, but like... I think that that's something that you do almost like block off your emotions in a way. Oh, yeah. Like, it definitely... If it's a mom listening to this, I think that as a kid, don't do that.

So, like, I should have talked about it with you a little bit? Yeah, you should have been more like... For me, if you were like, go dance, go dance. I used to be terrified of that. I would almost want to be like, oh, well, I'm not going to... I'm going to go. Oh, that's so interesting. I mean, that also is kind of just the way my brain is wired sometimes where it's like, oh, I want to, like...

not impress my mom, but like make you proud, I think. So then if you were like, oh, I used to struggle, I want you to go do it for me. Like to make, I don't know. I just think I would have done it. That's so interesting. Yeah. Like I guess,

I guess I need to hear that stuff from you or I guess you need to hear that. Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's teaching each other and it's, I think the biggest takeaway from this whole podcast is just communication. Even if it's awkward, like you just like, this is even awkward. Oh, this is so awkward. Literally we're staring at each other, talking to you guys, talking to this microphone, but, but you guys aren't technically here yet. So it's weird. This episode of the moments podcast is sponsored by better help.

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And I know that a lot of people can talk about their mom with like the boys they've kissed, the boys they've like done stuff with or just the people that they've done stuff with. But I I don't I don't really talk to my mom about that stuff. So you guys ask a lot of questions about it. And I think that that's something a lot of us don't talk to our mom about. So I'm going to do it for you.

Okay, starting simple. When it comes to bringing someone home, like if I were to bring a guy home or have someone take me on a date, what are the automatic green flags? What are the red flags? And what is the like, absolutely not, my daughter cannot hang around this kid.

Like, if he came to the house to pick you up and he didn't come knock on the door and he didn't come in to meet Daddy and I, that's a huge red flag. And you would be like, I don't like this kid? Yeah, like, goodbye. Goodbye? No way. Like, if you're going to take my daughter out and I'm going to trust you, you need to come inside and meet us. Yeah.

And I know that can be hard because when you're like 15 or 16 and you like have this boy, it's embarrassing to you. I mean, like when I was 15 or 16, I honestly wasn't really hanging out with boys, but I know that if I were to have been, I would have done it so sneakily. Like I wouldn't have wanted to be like, you have to meet my mom. Like actually one time I went to the movies, my, this was like my first real date and it was actually when I had my first kiss, but I went to the movies with this kid my freshman year and my mom went to drop me off.

And she was like, I have to meet him. And I was like, mom, no, please, please. No. He was a year older than me too. So he was like a sophomore. And I was like, mom, no, please. You can't meet him. You can't meet him. Like I was so nervous just because I don't know. It's such an uncomfortable thing. Like having your mom meet the boy you're talking to or having to talk to your mom about boys. And then like, sometimes you don't even want to tell them you're going on a date because then they're going to ask you questions about the date. And yeah,

I don't know. Why do we get so nervous to talk to our parents about boys? Or anyone. Whatever it is. But don't you remember, too, though, that you were so embarrassed that I wanted to meet him, but then his mom came out with him and met me? Really? Don't you remember that? Not really, actually. Yes, she came out, and I got to meet her. And so then, oh, I like this family. It really is just, like, a parent thing, like, that you just want to meet. Like, to have that comfort, that face-to-face, like, I can actually...

Trust this kid. And I guess it's the same thing though, like even with a friend, not even a boyfriend. Like so whenever you were going someplace, like if you said, oh, I'm sleeping at so-and-so's house all the time and you wanted to try to do that, like I had to talk to the parent. Yeah, and I would get so mad at you. You were so embarrassed. Because for some reason, some of my other friends didn't do that. Like their parents wouldn't call the other person's mom, but my mom was always like,

What time are you going? Where are you going to be? Who's going to be there? What's the mom's phone number? Can I call her? Every detail. And at the time, I found it to be the most annoying thing ever. But I've grown to appreciate it so much just because even though I didn't realize it, she was keeping me out of so many bad situations and...

I mean, I'm just grateful for it. So if you're at a point where your parents are like super strict, as much as I know that it could suck right now and it probably does a couple of years down the road, you're going to be so grateful because I know that I am so, so, so thankful that I didn't end up on the path that I was trying to go down in high school because there were certain people that I always wanted to hang out around. And my mom just, she knew like, she's like,

I don't think this is you. I don't think this is where you fit in. And I never understood it until I did. And I finally got to the point where I did. It was like I was in the happening at the time, and now I know the reason. Because she just led me in the right direction. And I think that that's really all our parents try to do. Yeah, we try to protect you and keep you in that bubble. And I think another big thing, like, with friends in situations with Lexi was, like, keeping... You're, like, guilty by association. So, like, really...

making sure that you're hanging around with the right people and with social media even back then at the time like you know posting pictures of the right people I wasn't allowed to have snapchat no snapchat because

You take a picture and then it's just, like, out there to the world. Like, I could never see it. I couldn't monitor it. So once I allowed, like, Instagram. And I was young. And, like, we are so young. Someone actually DM'd me the other day and was like, my mom won't let me get Snapchat. What do I do? I was like, girl, thank her. And I just kind of explained that, like, at the time, I mean, it was also when Snapchat first became a thing. So everyone was just, like, flirting with each other, doing, like,

I don't even know. I mean, you guys are all basically about my age. I think about when Snapchat first came out and how people were. I mean, my mom just had good intuition and she didn't want me on there. And I'm thankful for how strict you were all the time. I would go on your friends' pages with Instagram and stuff and I'm like, Oh my god, look at what this girl's doing. Like, look at what... You can...

you can like judge a lot by what people post and what people do and i hate to judge a book by its cover but it's kind of like what you have to do when it comes to who your child's hanging out with yeah and i i mean i hate to be like that too it's like i i don't want to judge anyone and i think that wherever everyone is at in their life they're on that path for a reason but i know that personally that that's not where i was supposed to be and i know that my mom was just looking out for me when she had all of those thoughts when she told me i couldn't do things and

I've just learned so much from it. I was always just looking out for you. Like, I just wanted to keep you safe. I never wanted you to struggle with anything else or...

deal with the consequences that you would like just making a bad choice the consequences that come from it like that would have hurt me so bad so I always wanted to protect you from anything bad happening and also when we're so young we don't realize how impressionable we are and how much peer pressure is an actual thing and in simply someone being like oh do you want to do this it's not like they're forcing you to do it you're just so young and you think it's cool that you just do it

And we don't think about it, and we don't think about things. And I remember I used to have, like, a Finsta. And you let me go to high school parties in, like, my senior year, even the end of my junior year. And, like, you knew that I was drinking every once in a while, but you made sure that I did not take one picture. I did not post one thing. And looking back, if you didn't do that, I wouldn't be here. Like, you just, yeah. I mean, like you said, you're just always protecting me. So just...

Trust your moms, guys. Trust your parents even when you don't want to. And I think the most important thing, too, for you guys to realize is, like, you have one reputation. And it's so important. You can't, like...

You can't get a new reputation. So, like, the things that you do even as a child, like, the impressions that you make on people, even if you're in high school, the impressions that come out, like, kind of live with you forever. Like, I think back to, like, high school of, like, you know, some girls doing certain things or guys doing certain things and, like...

Those memories stick in my head to this day. So when I hear, you know, Joe's name, I think of whatever instantly. So that's why it's so important to like, just be good to everyone. Respect your reputation. Live with good intentions and just be aware. I mean, most of you guys are probably my age, little younger, little older. Just be aware of what you're doing, what you're posting, who you're hanging out with. It all goes back to like checking your surroundings, keeping good people around you because you

If you're in a room with five people who have a smoking addiction, you're going to be the sixth person to have that smoking addiction. I just read that in a book somewhere, but it goes the same thing vice versa. If you're in a room with five people who do community service every weekend, before you know it, you're going to be doing community service every week. Right. So just trust your parents, keep good people around you, live with good intentions, and I think that that's just a really important tip that we forget about all the time. I mean, even now, I forget to listen to my parents, and I forget that they're always right. Mm-hmm.

Before I get into the spiciest question, I think that a question that was asked so many times was, what is the hardest thing about being a mom? Like, not to scare all of us who are eventually going to be moms, but what is the hardest thing? And also, I feel like as your kid, it'll be nice to know that because it'll maybe change the way I act or do. Just, yeah, go on. Gosh, I think the hardest thing is like...

watching you fail. Watching you fail? Like, watching you, like, trip and fall because it's gonna happen. Like, you know, when you're a baby and you, like, trip and fall, it's like, as a mom, it just, like, it just hurts so bad. And it's hard because, like, you know it has to happen. You didn't want them to trip and fall. Like, that hurts when you scrape your elbow. And so...

When you get older, you like trip and fall in different ways. Mental health. I mean, yeah, I mean it can be so, it can be like from like heartbreak to someone like being mean to you or someone making fun of you. And that like, are you going to cry? You guys, it could almost make me cry. You already are crying. You guys, I'm so emotional this week. Like I can't even, but that could make me cry because it's the honest to God truth. Like it,

Like watching those trip and falls. See? You guys see what I'm saying? I laugh when she cries. And she gets, she cries. And then she's making me laugh. But yeah, I'm glad the camera's off. Yeah, we did turn the camera off. What's wrong with me? I like can't even take myself. Sorry, I'm not usually like this.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's the same with anyone that you love. I mean, like with my best friends, for example, and my brothers and my parents, when I see them hurting, it's hard. So I can't even imagine the kind of level that would be on when I literally, when you birthed me. Yeah. I came, like, I am, I can't even process that. Like, I can't imagine having a life inside of me for nine months. Oh, another thing that a lot of people asked, how painful is it really to have a kid? Oh, boy. Yeah.

It is so painful, but I'm sure you've heard people say this. It's like you forget the pain and most moms do it again. That's what I was going to say. You forget the pain because of love. Oh no, I could cry again. The love that is like when this baby is like... In your arms. Oh my God, I can't even wrap my head around it. I have chills. It is just like the most amazing thing that you literally forget everything that you just went through. Is it like immediate? Immediately.

immediate. The first cry just like puts chills through your entire body that is like, Oh my God, you're mine. And now I got to take care of you and protect you and give you the best life ever. And just, I have baby fever just from hearing that.

Guys, I'm not having a kid anytime soon. We don't even have a boyfriend. We don't even have a boyfriend. And if you're going to be her boyfriend, you better come knock on our door. Yeah. Come meet us. Yeah. Green flags. Green flags. Green flags. This podcast is supported by FX's English Teacher, a new comedy from executive producers of What We Do in the Shadows and Baskets. English Teacher follows Evan.

Okay, also going back to the birth thing, obviously you forget about the pain.

after you have the first one, whatever. When it comes... Say you are having a second kid. It comes close to term. You're about to go to the hospital, whatever. You're going into labor. Do you have that fear again of, like, the pain? Does it come back? Oh, yeah. Like, is it harder to have the second one than it is to have the first? And then, like, what about the third? Like, how was that? Yeah, like, as you get closer to the end and you kind of get a little PTSD, it kind of comes back to you quickly. But then the same thing happens. Like, you just, like...

go through hell and all the pain and then you have the baby and you forget it again. But it does. You definitely have triggers. You know what I mean? Like, going to the hospital. I remember saying to Dad, like, oh my God, okay, now this is going to happen. Or like, because you know. Yeah, it's like knowing what's... I mean, it honestly, obviously it's such a different thing. It's literally...

two opposite sides of the scale. But same thing like with my mental health when I notice that when I finally get better, I'm like, oh, I'm so glad that I went through that. Like, I'm so glad I learned from that and I took those lessons and I feel on top of the world. And then,

I can feel myself falling again and I'm like, oh no. And I feel like it's kind of similar to that. Like when you know you're going down a bad mental health path again, you just, well, it sucks. And then you get back to the top and you're like, oh, this was supposed to happen. I was supposed to learn from it. I mean, those are two completely different things. No, but with any kind of pain, like whether it's like a boyfriend cheating on you or something else happening, like when you're in that moment, that's like hardest pain and you're in the most hurt of your life. But like,

you're going to learn from it or you're going to get this amazing baby from it or whatever it is in your life. It's going to turn back into flowers. Like, yeah. And I think that that, that is the one thing that keeps me like such a delusional optimist is just that anything can happen. And I'm like, Oh, okay. It's supposed to happen. You know, my dream of owning a van just got crushed. Well, I guess we move on to the next thing and we figure it out and it really works as cheesy as it sounds. It literally gets me through every single struggle that I have in my life.

But the thing is, you have to believe it. Like, you can't just say, oh, everything happens for a reason, but then in the back of your mind, you're not accepting it. You have to fully, 100%, all in, just accept that everything is happening for a reason. But you're, like, super special in that way. Like, well, that's why you're doing what you're doing now. Like, you have a special talent to, like...

teach that to people and make people understand that because they're like now you're gonna make me cry well I mean like just well yeah I might I don't know like it's just something so special and most people like don't have somebody in their lives telling them that or you know they're not believing it but like you telling it and every day and stealing this into people's lives are gonna like change lives because you do mine like stop doing this but like you you do you like

I'll be like going through stuff and I forget. Next thing you know, you're like just like blowing it off. Like, mom, you're crazy. Come on. Like, let's just keep going, you know? Yeah. I mean, it's definitely a blessing and a curse because sometimes it's like I want to hold, like I want to feel more emotions. I want to be able to feel more things. And I just don't. I sometimes think you, like you're missing that gene. Yeah. But it has to be there. And you eventually, the problem is, is you like...

You like do push it all like under the rug too much. I'm like, do you have any emotion? Like you need to show something, but then you're dramatic. It's like a buildup. Yeah. It's like a buildup and it's a total freaking break. And then we might deal with it for a little bit. And then again, I go back to realizing, okay, it's happening for a reason. Here's my breakdown. I'm accepting it and I'm moving past it. But you need to, you could deal with some emotions along the way. Like it's important to deal with emotions. Like it's,

It's okay to cry. Not like me. I've been a baby all week. But, like, it's okay to cry. Like, you have to, like, understand, like, that getting that out is refreshing. And the thing is, I say that all the time. And I think that that's one thing I'm very hypocritical about is I'm like, talk about your emotions. Feel them. And it's something I'm working on. And I've told you guys that I work on it. But it really is so important to just allow yourself to feel the things but know that it's happening now.

you're on the right path and you're supposed to be feeling it, but, but don't just don't do what I do where you put it off and then you eventually just have a breakdown and then tell yourself you can feel it. We just, just find the balance, work on finding the balance. It's a journey that we're all on. I mean, none of us are perfect. We all have our different flaws, our different struggles. And I mean, me and my mom have similar ones, but still we have totally different ways of navigating through our mental health. Yeah, we do.

Which is just so interesting because everyone does. So, I mean, we could be saying stuff that might not resonate with you at all, or you're like, oh my God, that's exactly what happens to me, which I just think is so fascinating how different we all are. Yeah, we are. But anyways, enough of the sappy, sappy, sappiness. I think both of us almost cried for a second there. We're going to talk about the S word.

We're going to talk. I can't say it. Can you say it? No, because, like, it's such a weird word to me. Like, I struggle with that. I don't like that word. Guys, I can't even say them on my period. Like, I can't even say that. So, we're going to talk about sex. Oop! But it was the most common question that was in the thing, in that little box. So many different variations of just talking to your parents about this. How to...

I mean, tell them anything about it, how to ask to go on birth control, when you know it's right. So I think that's the first question I have is like, as a female, when do you know when is the right time to have with someone? Guys, I literally can't even say the word. We need to get past that. Okay. Can we say it together on three? One, two, three, sex. Okay.

Oh my gosh. Okay. Okay. How do you know when it's the right time? What are the signs? What should you feel? How do you know? Can you teach me? Because I don't know. No. When it comes down to the first time, I mean, obviously there's things like, you know, you have to feel safe with the person. You have to make sure that no one's forcing you into it. You have to just make sure that you're ready. But like, what are other, other things to be aware of? Like, how do you know that someone's not just...

Think about, like, being a teenager. How do you know that someone's not just trying to get you to do that to please them? And how do you know that they actually want to be with you for more than that? Well, I mean, I think, like, the first thing is, like, time for me. Like, you know, you can't be with somebody for, like, a week or two or dating somebody for, like, a month. And I know everybody might, like, laugh at me for, like, saying this. But, like, it's the honest to God truth. Like, I just feel like you need to...

be with somebody for, and I, I think the same way amount of time, because like, you know, you know how things are the first couple of weeks, everything is just like amazing. And, you know, a couple months in, but like six months in, where are you? You know, do you still love each other? Do you still like have fun with each other? Do you feel that connection? To me, the thing is it gets super messy and stuff because I'm the same way. I think that

I mean, I'm not going to do that with someone if I haven't been, if I don't know that I'm going to date them or I'm already in a relationship with them and I'm truly so comfortable. But a lot of people are not in that same boat because of the way that hookup culture has become. Like, I mean, you know how college is. I went to FSU for like two, not even two years, guys. But I've always told my mom that just the hookup culture there is literally you just go home with someone, you talk,

Do that with them and then you never talk to them again. And that's very common. And I think that, obviously, to each their own, if this part, like, doesn't resonate with you and you want to do whatever you want with your body, that's fine. Like, this isn't judging you. This is just... If you are younger and you do have these questions, just hear us out, I guess. Like, I mean, how do you avoid that hookup culture? Like, I... I mean, listen. I wouldn't know. I had to leave the whole school to get away from it. Okay, so, like, I had...

You know, like, through high school, we dealt with the same thing. This is, like, been the way it has been forever. Like, I had friends in high school, and, you know, we would all go out together, and they were, you know, hooking up with boys every night. And, you know, it'd be kind of interesting and funny because we would be, like, in a group, and, you know, there's, like, three girls and three boys, whatever it is. And they're like, oh, let's, you know, go home with them. And I'd be the one, like, all right, I'm going to sit out back. And, like, it was so weird. No, and that's how high school is, too. There was, like, one of those boys...

oh, well, I thought you were going to, like, hook up with me. They're all in the room hooking up. Nope, sorry, you picked the wrong girl. Like, that was just me, and I think it was probably a lot of me, like, probably being insecure with myself, too. That goes back to, like, a lot of the struggles. Like, I didn't, like...

I don't know. I was just super insecure with myself and with my body and with just everything else. So I think that's like the way I dealt with it was like, just didn't put myself in those situations. No, and I struggle with the same thing. I think even now, like I, I have this fear of intimacy just because I'm insecure about like that. Like, I don't know. It grosses me out. Like I, I've, I mean, I literally don't even think I've ever told my mom that I've had the S word before.

But I mean, I think I was in like a 10 month relationship, but still, I never even got to a point where I was like comfortable. I was comfortable enough with the person that it was with, but still just in general, I don't know. No, but I'm still the same way. So it's interesting. It's just still like the way I am as a person, even though I've been like,

I was married for like 21 years. Like, it's just crazy. I think everyone is just like different. And I just like, like I tell anybody to just like respect yourself as much as you can. Trust your gut. And you can't let people like convince you of things. And obviously easier said than done, but, but know your worth. Know like what you really stand for. And if you genuinely feel like this is someone who is going to be with you in the long run and who loves you for more than,

your body, then I think if you feel ready, you're ready. It doesn't matter how long that is, but you have to trust your gut. If you're just doing it to just please this person. And if that's why they love you, then I hate to say it, but they don't. Right. And you're only going to feel worse about yourself later. It's going to come back and you're going to kind of always does. And it's just, you just have to know yourself and to like,

Really just how much you're worth like you have you have one body and you need to love it and take care of it the way I see it is like your body is a temple and the only people who are gonna be allowed into that are the people who worship you and who are gonna see you at your worst and still be there not just when you're at your best and It's sometimes just such a hard pill to swallow because there's people that are like that that we don't want to like let go of and

Like if you have a crush on someone and that's all they want to do with you, you, you choose to believe that they want more than that. Right. But I think that deep down we always know. And instead of just finding our self worth and like tuning into that, I like that feminine energy. I don't know. You just, we, we just, we're all people pleasers sometimes and we just have to learn to put ourself first and to love yourself and to be very aware of,

Who you're allowing into you, literally. I didn't even mean for it to be like that. I just meant, ugh. Anyways. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Okay, so all of that being said, if I were to ask you...

Like, and tell you that I wanted to go on birth control. How, like, what's the best way for me to do that? I mean, when I actually did go on birth control, it was literally just because my best friend went on birth control and her mom was a nurse. So I think she just got it for both of us. And I literally wasn't even sexually active. I'm not on birth control right now because I'm also not. Um, how, how, what is the best way for me to ask you if we were to be back in that whole same position? Because a lot of people don't know how to ask their mom.

I think it's probably like the hardest thing to ask because if you're... I got lucky. I think I dragged... I wanted to go... Well, also, I'll be honest. Why did you want to get on birth control? I wanted to go on birth control because I wanted my boobs to get big. She wanted boobs. That is exactly the honest to God truth. And I would text her, oh my gosh, guys, I would be at cheer practice in high school and my friends would brag about how they were on birth control and their boobs got so big. And I was like, mom, please, please, her boobs got two sizes bigger. And I had no boobs, guys. Um...

but that was why. I do remember that and I didn't want to like, and I didn't want to say yes to it because it's like, why put that stuff into your body until you need it? Like, I don't like medications. We're not like pill poppers in any way. And I really just, it wasn't a good reason. And honestly, I think a lot of it thinking back, it's like I, instead of wanting bigger boobs, I should have just kind of learned to love what I had. And I never, I mean, I never, I don't think that

either of us realized that at the time, like that's not why she was telling me no. Right. And that's not why I just kind of made that realization right now. Like,

You got to love yourself for what you are, who you are. I mean, that's totally off topic of birth control. But anyways, just a little piece of advice. But yeah, it's difficult because if you're asking to get on birth control, you're basically at the same time telling your mom that... You want to. Yeah, I kind of want to, you know, you know that word. So, and as a parent, like if you came to me and like I knew you were like had a boyfriend and you were dating for like a month or two and you came and asked like...

I would, well, what would I do? I would cry. You would cry. And then we, like, I would obviously put you on it. I would. You wouldn't be understanding. Yeah. I would respect that you're, you're coming to me. And, and as a parent, I would hope, you know, other parents would like put you on it and like, like appreciate that your child came to you as hard as it is because like, it's the hardest thing to probably ask.

It's like when that happens at that point, it's really like, oh, she's a grown up. Like, she's really getting old and she's not my baby anymore. Like, I feel like that's how I would be as a mom. I would be more like, oh, she's an adult. Yeah, no, it's really, it's a hard pill to swallow. I mean, really. Yeah, it is. But you can't, as a parent, you can't.

Say no then. Because, you know, kids are always going to find a way to get things. Or, you know, imagine the consequences of saying no. And then your child or... And I mean, not even as a mom. If you're a kid listening to this, it's like, don't... As hard as it's going to be, you have to... If you're going to do those things, you have to get on those things. Because...

You don't want to risk what could happen. It's an adult thing. It is. You're making an adult decision to get in bed with someone. You have to make the adult decision to do what's right and protect yourself. Mm-hmm. I mean, it's a big girl thing. It is. It's gross. It really is. I don't like talking about it, but I mean, it was the thing that people asked the most, so... Yeah. I mean, we had to. Okay, so, I mean, that's really, I think, all we're going to get into on that topic, just because...

I don't want to talk about it anymore, but say, for example, someone gets their heart broken because they let someone take advantage of them. Really just in general, the question is, do you have any tips on handling heartbreak? Because I'm not very good at this one because I honestly can't say I've really had my heart broken, but I'm sure you're older than me. You have. You've been through things. What gets you past that initial heartbreak?

Yeah, heartbreak is hard. And I think, like, even, like, watching your kids go through it is, like, even harder. But I would say, like, because we get so invested in someone else. Yeah. And then... Yeah, we do. And then it's, like, kind of, like, you feel alone. I think after is, like, a big thing. Like, if you spend a lot of time, like, you know, with your boyfriend and you guys break up and you go through that heartbreak, you feel alone, which I think is what most people go through. So I would say, like, having a close...

community around you like friends around you like try to like get out and hang out with your friends go do fun things hang out with your family like keep your mind busy instead of just like staying in your room and because we isolate ourselves I mean same thing I've talked about in past episodes and just in general when we're going through rough patches we completely disconnect and it's the opposite of what we need to do even though it feels like no one can say anything that's gonna make you feel better and

They will. I mean, it might not feel like it in the moment, but just keep your circle close and just know that if this person is meant to be in your life, eventually they'll come back around and they will be a part of your life. And it's really a win-win because if that doesn't happen, then...

You're going to find someone better. You're going to find someone who's really meant for you and really loves you for who you are. And I think something else important like along that topic is, you know, when you are dating someone and you're in high school or college, whatever it is, like don't lose your friends.

I mean, we all like, that's what most people do. They cut them off and they have their boyfriend and that's their whole world. I've been there. I mean, you need to keep your circle of friends no matter what. Like that's so important. Do not ever isolate yourself to one person or one friend or one boyfriend. Like you need to have a circle and don't lose yourself in a relationship. I think that's something a lot of people do, especially when it's so new. It's so fresh. You're so in love.

You give your all to that person that you just lose yourself sometimes in the mix and you, you change your morals and you change the way you think because of the way the other person thinks. And just be aware of that. Be aware of who you are and who you want to be. And, and even through a relationship, you have to stay independent. You have to stay like yourself because if you go all in and you give up who you are, God forbid something happens, you're

It's that much harder to get through the heartbreak and to move on. Well, I think I've always taught you that. Like, you need to, no matter what, be an independent woman. And that's a hard pill for, like, a guy to swallow. Like, in the beginning, too. Oh, it's been a struggle. I mean, with me, because... I honestly do it too much. And I think that that's why I've only been able to really have one long-term relationship is I'm almost too independent. So, life really is about balance. It all goes back to balance. But...

I like can't see myself with a boyfriend one because it just feels like so much work number two is

I'm so independent and like, I don't want to give my all to one person. So I guess if there's anyone else in that same boat, like what are tips for me to like allow? So, I mean, you know how I am. Yeah. And I mean, I was the same way. Like I'm like super independent and always had my job and support myself and this and that. And sometimes you have to like let your guard down a little bit, but I think that comes to trust. There is a part of like being so independent when it really comes to also being

Like, trusting somebody with you. Like, it's a hard thing. It's so difficult. So you just rather be like, you know, put on, like, my Superman cape here and, like, be like, I can handle everything on my own. I'm so independent. Instead of, like, at times, like, letting your guard down a little bit and letting that person love you and take care of you. Like, that's been a huge thing with, like, Daddy and I. You know? Like, just, like, learning to...

Let him in. Mm-hmm. Because I have an absolute shield up. Like, I know there's times I think about how much I want a boyfriend. Like, oh, it would be so nice to, you know, take really cute pictures with someone and, like, have someone love me and, like, go on trips together. But I just don't do that. Like, I don't know. Anyways. Because you just... It's a hard thing sometimes. We're all learning. Yeah, we are. Like, we're just, like... Every day. Figuring it out. And we never have it all figured out. I'm still figuring it out. Yeah. And I'm old. I mean...

No, you're not old. You're just older than me. Wiser. Actually, I can't say that with you because you're wiser than me. No, we both are wise in different topics. True. Okay. We learn from each other. I mean, those were most of the questions that you guys asked, and I think that we covered a lot of things within answering those questions, but I think that this went pretty well and we should do this more. Like, I feel so comfortable. Like, now I could keep talking. I know, but I feel like I can't think of anything else to talk. It did take us, like, an hour. It took us...

Look at the time. It took us a long time to settle in. A really long time to just get in the zone. But I do think that moving forward, when we do a part two, this will be so much easier. Yeah, but they might be like, get rid of that mom. We don't want her on there. I don't think they're going to do that. Guys, please don't hype up my mom because now she's going to be all worried that you guys are going to hate her. She's the best. Oh. No, that was fun. That was fun. It was fun. And I'll do it again. It's honestly so weird because while we are talking and while the mic is on, I feel like that there's actually people...

in here right now listening to us. No, which is so weird, yeah. Because there's literally... I feel like we're, like, on stage somewhere. No, and there's no one in here. We're in the car by ourselves. This is just a speaker. It's so weird. But it's really not. It's just a real feeling. Because I know that it's going to reach you guys, and I think that after the first episode of that happening is why I now feel like people are in the car, because, guys, I don't know. My brain works really, really in weird ways, but...

I mean, this podcast is going to be fun. But like we did it. We did it. Are you proud of me? I'm so proud of you guys. We, we've been meaning to, well, first of all, we've had some, you know, actual difficulties and why we haven't recorded, but also I think we were both just pushing it off because we were nervous and,

but give me a high five we did it we did it and we're gonna do it again yeah and I can officially say I had my first guest on the podcast and it was my mom honored it was me it was my mom and we were recording the camera died kind of five minutes after we started so really I think all you're gonna see on TikTok is our bloopers but they're probably funnier than anything else anyways

So before we end this off, Mom, what is one thing, one last piece of advice that you have for everyone my age? And honestly, anyone who's listening, just one tip. Probably to...

continue to chase those dreams to be like a dream catcher to always like I've always come up with these like crazy ideas in my head and I want to like take over the world and I think I've always told you just like anything you want to do you can do it and like you're lucky like you have the support of me to be as crazy as you are my mom's my literal hype man and I can tell her

That I want to run across the country and buy a van. And even if it doesn't work out, she still supports me. Like we did it. And we learn from it. And every single time, it works out. So don't give up on your dreams. Everything is possible. I never imagined to be recording a podcast in the car with my mom. And I don't think she did either. No, like never. I can't even like talk in front of people. Like this is my biggest insecurity. And this is the crazy thing.

Every insecurity that I've had in my life my child for some reason makes me like have to live it and get through it like I

Like my mom, grandma, Mimi, like watching that, like everybody knows I can't even like talk on camera. I can't do things. And like you are making me do that. I'm breaking your shell. I'm like, get out, get out, get out. But this is all I say is like chase your dreams. I have dream catcher tattooed on the back of my neck, but like I can't do it myself because I get scared, but I get to like do it through you and live through you and like, well, we're doing it together. Like, yeah. So it doesn't,

Just don't give up. Just follow those dreams. Chase them. Chase those dreams, girl. Chase those dreams. What the heck? We're going to end off on that note. We answered most of the questions you guys had, and we will do a second one if you guys want it. If you want to hear my mom talk more, we're so down to do it. I think we're pros now. But I love you guys, and I'm really excited for next week's episode. I think it's going to be probably the most personal I'm going to get because it's something I just went through, and it sucked, but...

You know what? We're vulnerable. We go through the moments together. That's why this is called moments. But I love you guys and I hope you're smiling and I will see you next Monday. I love you. You're the best. Okay. Bye.