7: Moments in Friendship
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My beautiful people, welcome back to the podcast. What episode are we on? Number six, I think. Today we have a very, very, very, very special guest. This is going to be interesting. This is definitely going to be something. We've never done something this professional together, but today I'm here with my best friend. A lot of you guys know her, but I'm going to be introducing you guys to Miss Lissette Christina Maughan.

Lisette, tell them what's up. Hello, what's up? I can't do this. Today's episode, we wanted to talk a lot about friendship because a lot of people have asked to see Lisette on the podcast. When I put this on my Instagram story, like, oh, who do you guys want to see? Who do you want me to interview? Who do you want to chat with?

Literally 100 people said Lisette. Whoa. Whoa. So I think it's time. I think it's time we record together. Okay, so Lisette, tell us a little bit about yourself. I'm Lisette Mon. I'm Lisette Mon. Okay. I go to Florida State University. Yes. Yes. I am an accounting major and I graduate next semester.

And besides that, she's also my favorite person in the whole entire world, and she is the one person that I could not live without. We've been friends for how many years now? A lot. A lot. Fourteen years, and going strong. Sometimes, I want to rip her hair out, but only sometimes. Only sometimes. We're also going to work on Lisette's...

speaking because she she tends to get real quiet when we're talking and with where the mic is positioned we have to kind of talk loud because we're sitting in mater the van if you guys don't know about the van totally think you should go listen to the last episode i would also like you guys to know the situation has only gotten crazier i think the whole van needs a whole new engine so everything's a mess but it's gonna work out it's just gonna take some time

And that being said, also do not forget to rate the podcast, follow the podcast, download the podcast, all of the above on Spotify, Apple Music, wherever you're listening. Go for it. And we're happy you're here. Anyways, guys, back to today's episode. I post on my Instagram story questions that people may have about friendship or how to keep a strong friendship, how to have a healthy friendship. Honestly, all questions friendship related, and I figure there's no one better to do it with. There better not be. There better not be.

Than my best friend. So we wrote down a list of all of those questions. We're kind of going to go through them. Before we get into those questions, I think we should give you a little bit of backstory on how we met and how we got to this point. So I'm going to go ahead and let Lissette take over the story. Oh, no. Because she thinks to think it happened differently. Okay. Okay. So in my opinion, in my memory. Okay. I believe to what have happened. Okay.

I believe what happened was we were both at Boca Jets cheer tryouts, and our moms were sitting next to each other, and we were trying out, and then I think it was a water break, so we went to our parents, and then we met, and then we talked the rest of the trial. But I think Lexi thinks that we met before and then went to our parents, which actually could have been true. I don't really know. I actually kind of forget. But then...

What? No!

Did you introduce yourself? I don't think that, that's why I think it's our parents. We should ask our parents. You think they know? No. Anyways, that literally doesn't even matter that much. But what really mattered was that after meeting, I was like, come to my family dinner. Our parents thought we were crazy. But then two weeks later, we had our first sleepover. And at that point, we were pretty much inseparable. Yeah. And both of our parents were team moms on our cheer team. And I'm pretty sure I like asked to go on your team.

Because we got put on different teams. Oh. Remember, like, U90 or whatever it was? Yeah, we were 90 pounders. Whatever it was. But all besides the story. We kind of became inseparable from Boca Jets. And then we ended up doing competition cheer together. We went to the all-star gym near us. I don't even know who told our parents about it or whatever. And then we go. We were on the same team. We, like, went in when it was... We went in when...

It was like already middle of the season, I think. And somehow we got on a team. Yeah, somehow. And then... And then Lissette... Lissette. Lissette excelled in cheerleading faster than I did. So she was always on kind of a team ahead of me. We would sometimes be on the same team. Yeah. Like we double teamed one time for the same team. Yeah, that's true. But Lissette was always a better cheerleader than me. And we really kind of just got stuck in a friendship.

Because we would travel together, and since our parents had gotten so close at that point, we would always share hotel rooms. We would travel, like, all over Florida. We laughed so hard, had so many, like, literally iconic moments, like, core moments from my childhood. Oh, 100%. Since then, I think I consider her my sister now, more than a best friend, but also my best friend. I agree. Anyways, let's...

Get into the questions. Yeah, you tell them what's up. I know, I know, I know. I'm actually so excited for her podcast debut because I've wanted to do this for so long since I first started the podcast. And we just, we kind of do long distance friendship a lot of the time. And it's our first day back home together.

And it's happening. It's going down. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to be able to listen to it, if I'm going to be honest. Honest, just because I don't know if I'll be able to hear my voice. No, it's really... However long, I'm going to listen and be like, alright, done. That's it. We're done. No, I can't even listen back to half my podcasts. I've listened back to a couple of them.

I don't know. I just, hearing my voice so many times after I said everything, I'm like, ah, I don't know if I can handle that again. Yeah. But we're rambling. Let's, let's get into these questions. I'm going to have a list of all the questions that we wrote down, and then we're just going to talk about them, I guess. Do you get jealous, and how do you handle it? Well, I could start on that one. Yeah.

I get very jealous. I've gotten a lot better with it, but for such a long time, especially in our friendship when we first had to separate because she went to college, I was just super protective over Lissette being, like, my best friend. And, no, I know, it actually sounds so stupid, but it's exactly what was going. I was like, no, she's mine. You can't be best friends with her, and you can't be best friends with her. Like, no. But,

It's definitely hard, but I think you eventually learn, like, when you have enough confidence in the friendship, it doesn't really matter. That was just hard because it was, like, a change. Overall, though, Lissette doesn't get that jealous. I definitely struggled with jealousy in a friendship a lot more than you, I'd say. Yeah, I don't know why. I just, you definitely would always get more jealous than I would, but not, like, in a bad way. Like, it's not like I'm not jealous because I don't care. I guess I'm not.

think actually no I think it's because you know how we're saying the whole like um including like you you will always make sure to like include me when you meet new people yeah I feel like I what sounds bad not that I don't make an effort I like wow that doesn't even like Lexi no it's not it I'm

But, like, you know what I'm saying? Yes, because I, whenever I meet new people, Lissette is just so casually part of conversation. And then the other person will always be like, who is Lissette? Like, I feel like I've met a lot of new people recently in my life, and I'll just bring you up like they already know you. And they're like, literally, who are you talking about? And then I give them the whole background. And eventually, I find it so important to, like, mesh my friend groups, and I think that that's one reason we don't get so jealous of each other. It's just because now her other, like, best friends

best friends are also my friends. Yeah. And same thing with my, like, it just goes both ways. And it works out. Like, we all are just friends. Even if, like, I'm not as close with someone that you're, like, close with, it's like, I still know them and, like, I'm friends with them. It's not like it's this random person that you're hanging out with all the time that I've never met them before and don't know, like, whatever. Like, whatever. I've been saying that a lot.

But I think since I also want to include like friendship advice in this podcast, I think that's a really, really, really super duper important thing is that when you have someone who's really close to you, make sure that you tell people about them and you make them feel welcome into your other friendships. And I understand having like different friend groups and friends that are

you do certain things with, but just make your friends feel appreciated and make sure that they do the same for you because I think that's going to lead to a healthier friendship no matter what, really. Next question. Okay, next question. Yes. How do you know when someone is a true friend? This one's good. It's hard. It's really hard. I feel like it's a feeling, like, I don't know. It's always a trust your gut kind of thing. Yeah. Like, I don't think Lissette and I ever had...

maybe it's also because we were so young when we met and we were just always together but there's never been there's never been a point in my life where i'm like maybe that's not a good friend like maybe i don't want this person in my life and i mean no yeah no no they're seriously gonna listen to this and be like are you guys friends and i feel like we just trust each other and we like just work you know

Hearing Lissette get deep and emotional. No, I can't. I can't do it. Like, you don't understand how hard this is for me right now. Like, I can't even... Me having to speak loud enough so the microphone can hear me is already hard enough. Then I have to get deep. This is not... This is not my thing. One thing interesting about our friendship is that I, like...

I have very deep conversations with a lot of people and Lissette is not one of those people. Like we can't sit down and get super deep about what we're feeling mentally and where our emotions are at just because like, I don't know. It just doesn't happen.

Yeah, it just doesn't. And it's also maybe because we know each other's emotions so well. That's what I was going to say. Since you tell me everything that's going on, I already know how you're feeling about it to where you don't even have to speak it because I know. It's not like we have to go deeper. Yeah, just by you explaining the situation, explaining whatever. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, moving on. Next question. One thing you love about each other that the other is insecure about. That's a little deep. That's super deep. See, Lissette, you're doing good. You're doing good. Do you want me to go first? Okay. I can't. I think my personal favorite thing about Lissette is how hardworking she is and determined she is when she's...

when it's something important. For example, she's really good at school and she's in school and she does school. I am not on that level. I don't do school. I'm not good at school. So one thing I do though, and this is where it's interesting because I almost act like it makes me angry. School? No, because for example, I'll like want her to come do a trip with me or go

or go somewhere. Oh, yeah. And she'll be like, no, like, I have class. Like, I have school. And she's like, no, like, get out of it. I'm like, what do you mean get out of it? It's mandatory. What do you want me to do? I'm not going to try to move my exam or whatever because... No, that's not... It's not always like that. She's like, just email your professor. I'm like, no, I need time to study. I want to go to class so I can learn. Go off, sis. No, that makes me so mad when you do that. No, it's true. It's one thing that causes...

not that we fight, but it's something that causes issues between us is because I always, like, look for loopholes, and we just kind of view life differently. So when it comes to, like, missing class, I, in my past, like, when I was in school, I'd, like, find a way to either get stuff done early or, like, email my professor, but it all goes back to the fact that I actually am, like, so proud of how driven you are in school, and I think sometimes I just wish we could, like, do more stuff together, and that's why it makes me angry, and then that's why it makes you angry, and then...

It just becomes a whole thing. Yeah, I wouldn't even say angry, though. Angry is definitely the wrong word. We just get, like, heated at each other. Annoyed. Yeah, definitely annoyed. But, like, not angry, like, annoyed, and then I'm like, no, I can't do it. And then you're like, alright, fine, and then we're fine. It lasts ten minutes, and it goes away.

Okay, so, Lexi... What you got? Um, I don't know how to word it. Like, I know what I want to say. I mean, kind of the same thing, but in a different way. Like, your work ethic, in a way, like, you don't... I don't think you don't realize things that you've accomplished. Even, not even, like, now. Just, like, growing up, you know how you're always like, oh, I'm not doing enough. I'm not doing enough. Like, you're doing... Okay, stop. You're making me emotional. No, I can't do that. Not that I just... No, we just don't do emotions. Yeah, we don't. We don't hug. No. No. Yeah.

I think the only time I ever hug you is if I, like, haven't seen you in, like, a year. Yeah. I didn't even hug you yesterday when I got back. Okay, next question? Well, no. Let's elaborate. More compliments now? Lisette's like, we got emotional for .2 seconds. I'm done. What's next? No, but we just have... We both have a super strong work ethic in totally different ways. Yeah, very different ways. Like, my work...

Yeah, they're just opposites. Like, I work more towards school and, like, career. Like, academically driven. Yeah, you're... I'm more, like, entrepreneur driven. Like...

I don't know. I don't want to say money-driven, but in a sense of you've always had a job. So not money... Success-driven. Yeah. And academic-driven is also success-driven. But money isn't the right word, because it's not like you're just like, oh, let me get as much money as I can. No, it's not like that. Yeah, not at all. I'm actually not... I love to make money. It makes me feel accomplished, but I don't do what I do to make money.

No, and I'm not even saying what you do now. I'm saying that you used to babysit. You worked in social catering. Like, that type of stuff. Not, like, taking away the fact of, like, whatever you're doing now. Yeah, we're both just on our grind in different ways. Now we can move on to the next question. Next question. One thing you can't wait to experience together? Each other's wedding. Oh my god, yeah. Like, I just am so excited. If I'm single at your wedding...

What if I meet my husband at your wedding? You better not be single at my wedding. I know, I don't want to be either. Yeah, because I think you're going to get... What do you guys think, actually? Who's going to get married first? Yeah. I used to think it would be me, but now I actually don't... Well, but I'm not necessarily on the fast track right now. Yeah, we're both going in the slow lane. We're like barely chugging along. Anyways, I think it's going to be Lisette now. Really? I mean, I think just because you're doing so much... Like, once I get a job, I'm stable, right?

Like, I'm like, I'm in that spot. I'm staying there. That's what I'm doing. But you, you never know what you're, yeah, like people I meet there. But for you, it's like you're always traveling. You don't really want to commit to anyone because you don't know where you're going to be in two months. You're totally going to get married first. Stop. Oh my gosh. What if you meet your husband at your internship?

I can't wait to play on Lissette's bachelorette party. Oh my god, same. It's gonna be so fun. You're, like, such a good party planner. I will not be able to plan yours because I don't know how to plan. Yeah, I don't know who I'd ask to plan my party. I feel like I'd end up doing it myself. No! No, okay, I could do some stuff. I just, I definitely couldn't do everything because it stressed me out. Who would be, if you got to choose another friend of mine that helped you plan, who would it be? Courtney. Courtney? Oh, yeah.

Courtney Swift. I feel like Courtney would be really good. I need to have Courtney Swift on the podcast soon. Yeah. I always say Courtney Swift. Yeah, you do. I don't just say Courtney. Anyways, moving on.

Guys, I have no idea where we left off. We just had to take a brief intermission because Lissette got the job. I got the internship. She got the internship, which leads to the job, and I'm so proud of you. I'm so excited. And this is huge, you guys. This is actually amazing, and we're going to celebrate tonight, but I do want to still finish this podcast because we just should, and now the vibes are really high. I know. Very high.

Guys, this is insane. Go DM Lissette right now. And if you listen to this and give her like the biggest DM hug, congratulations because, dude, she deserves it. I'm so proud of you, dude. I am so excited and relieved. Be proud of yourself. Say, I'm proud of myself right now. I'm proud of myself. Affirmations. All right, all right. Okay. I don't know what question we have. Well, we'll just, I guess, skip to the next. We're going to pick one.

Um, small fights, big ones. When is it a problem? Yeah. So this one is fun to talk about because on my Instagram story, I said that me and Lissette have been friends for 14 years and never gotten in a fight. We got in one actual fight. Yeah. It was still stupid. It was so stupid. Honestly, it was my fault though. Yeah. Yeah. What happened, Lissette? Tell them what happened. Well, yeah. Tell them what happened. I can't even like, okay. So Lexi had an issue with a girl.

That bullied her in middle school. Yes. And then, it's such a long story to explain. I can't even explain it without getting it all though. I can make it short. So, basically, moral of the story, the girl who bullied me was family friends with Lisette's family. And it was just kind of all super messy.

But then it all just ended up causing us to drift apart for, like, a month. And then she got super close with this other girl, and I got super jealous. That didn't have to do with the fight. At least not on my part. On my part, it didn't. That was, like, the whole thing. But...

Anyways, that was settled. But really, that was our only real fight. Yeah, I remember she would tell me, she's like, like once we started talking again, and she was like, yeah, my family kept asking like where you were, and I just had to like lie. I didn't tell my parents that me and Lissette were in a fight. And honestly, it's so obvious now that they knew. Like we didn't hang out for a month, and we just kept saying, oh, it was like two months.

It was two or three. Yeah, but I think what really restarted through the kids was our friendship. No way. We couldn't have gone that long. No, it was, like, less than two. It had to have been less. It felt like a year, though. Yeah. It was so weird. There's no way we could have gone that long. But we still cheered together, and I remember the day I got my period. I think that's when our friendship started to come back again, because I texted her. I was like, I know we're not super close right now, but I thought you were the first person I had to tell that I just got my... Ew, so cringe. I know. And then, like, at cheer practice, I based her at the time, and, like...

We'd be like obviously practicing And I'm just like basing her like not even talking to her Honestly that's probably what made us start talking again Because we had to But still that was a stupid fight That happened for stupid reasons And now when it comes to us fighting I think what works so well for us Is that we don't like hold things in

We're very honest with each other, and we also know each other so well that it's very easy to just be like, dude, you're doing the thing again. Like, stop doing that. And we just do. It's not like one of us is going to be stubborn about it or try to change it. We had to take another intermission just because Andrew called us. Andrew's Lissette's brother. Best person ever. Not better than me, though. Not better than her, though, obviously. Obviously. So he wanted to say hi to you guys.

So, anyways, I think a big thing... I think that internship just made me have, like, a spark of energy. Now I'm, like, ready to talk. Good. Let's talk. Let's talk. So, anyways, I think a big thing about, like, our fights now is that since we, like, basically grew up together, like, now it's, like, sisters, so it's, like, we don't care to, like, call each other out when something's happening. Yeah, we're very straight up. Oh, wait. That's not even what I was going to say. At all. I was saying that...

Anyways, she lost her train of thought. Yeah, it actually just jumped away. It just whoop, off the bridge. I hate when that happens. But I also wanted to go into this a little bit more and just say how to know the difference when like, it's normal to have fights and friendships. I mean, that's how you grow together and you learn together, but there is like a line and a lot of people ask like, how do you know when that line's been crossed and when this is just not a good friendship for you?

And I really think it comes down to how that person makes you feel overall. If you find yourself in a friendship where you constantly feel like you're battling, like, negative feelings and you constantly feel hurt or... Which happened to us. I mean, I feel like me more than you. We had that happen in a friendship in our past. And I mean...

Yeah. And it was hard to like figure out, like I'd keep like going away and going back. And then we went in a constant cycle. And then I honestly still am in that cycle. But it's kind of it's a different situation for each of us. But if you're feeling manipulated or hurt more than you're feeling happy and excited and fulfilled to be with the person that you're with.

that's when you know it's a problem. And it's super hard to let go of those friendships because sometimes they're long-term friends. And then you grow together and you realize that this isn't the kind of person you want around you anymore. And you have to, like, make that executive decision that this isn't good for me. But you really just have to draw the line at if you're happier most of the time or if you're upset most of the time. Mm-hmm.

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Alright, next question. How do you not let boys get in the way? This one's fun. Yeah, that is good. Thankfully, Lissette and I, it's not that we don't have the same type. Like, we both find each other's, like,

I guess, like, attractive, but it's not like... We're drawn to the same people. Yeah, yeah, no, we're not drawn to the same people. But, like, we both can appreciate, like, oh, yeah, that kid that you like or are talking to, like, yeah, he's cute, he's attractive, but I'm not gonna be like, okay, let me go steal him, like, what? That would never even cross my mind. We've never had that mindset before.

And I know that in a lot of friendships, it seems to be a common thing that happens. It's like, like a lot of people commented like, oh, what do I do with like my best friends hanging out with your ex or with my ex? First of all, that's not your best friend. Yeah. Second of all,

We've just never, ever, for one second, like, if I'm talking about someone I like, Lisette would never be like, oh, no. Yeah. I want to talk to him. The only time that would ever happen is if, like, we see a cute boy across the room and we're like, dibs. And it's like, no, I saw him first. But, like, we're never even going to go up and say hi because we're too scared. Right.

Yeah.

Well, are you saying, like, in the sense of them wanting to spend time with the guy? Yeah, when it comes to, like, quality time. Because in a lot of friendships and situations, someone gets a boyfriend, and all they want to do is hang out with that boyfriend, and all they do is talk about that boyfriend. And don't get me wrong, me and Lissette talk about our boy problems. I talk about my boy problems to her all the time, and she's a trooper for listening to me. But we've never really had an issue when either of us has had a boyfriend. No, because, well, that goes back to you saying with the...

how, like, you always will... Like, when you have a new friend and you're talking about me, they end up just knowing me, so then that... Like, you're always, like... Like, when you had a boyfriend, you'd be like, oh, Lissette's coming. Lissette's coming. Like, so you, like, force... Like, you don't force me, but it's like you force us to be friends, so then it's never, like... Like, if you guys ever do anything... Obviously, if you want to do, like, a date or something, I'm not going to be like, no, hang out with me. But then there's also... Because you, like, equal out your time to where...

there's also so many times where we all hang out together. It's not only you hanging out with him, you hanging out with me. It's like, no, there's times where it's all of us. Yeah. Which, and, like, for some reason, I feel like I never feel like I'm, like, third wheeling that bad. No. There are moments, but, like, not, like, that bad. Here's what it is. Like, you don't do it.

We were talking about this before we recorded this episode, but we were sitting in my room and I was thinking about it and I was like, I think the reason that that's never been an issue is because I value our friendship just as much as I would ever value a boyfriend. Like, I would never put a boy above you or spending time with a boy above spending time with you just because you would both be such important people in my life that I would want to keep it so balanced and...

I think that's just an important thing to know. Like, if you do get into a relationship with someone or you have a friend that's in a relationship with someone, like, communicate with one another that the friendship has to be valued as much as this new relationship. Like, yeah, it's fun, new, and exciting.

But your friends are going to be there for you longer than a boyfriend. A lot of the time. A lot of the time. So, I don't know. Just stay aware of that if you feel like you're the one who's, like, putting your best friend off. I feel like the big thing is just making sure you're aware of it. Because people will get lost. I mean, like, they'll put on the goggles and then all they see is, like, the boyfriend. The boyfriend goggles are so real. And I've experienced it. Like, I've had friends where they get a boyfriend and it's like, oh, do I even exist to you anymore? And to be fair, what I could have done is communicate that I felt...

like I've been dropped or I've been yeah not neglected but you know yeah I guess neglected yeah and yeah that's just another really important thing with friendship is communication like a lot of people asked us about communication and sound like one of the other pages that I wrote down but communicate anything you're feeling all the time it's the only way you can't read each other's mind to Lissa and I can read each other's mind sometimes it's kind of concerning yeah but

You have to voice what you're going through, why you feel a certain way. Otherwise, it's never going to change, and then it's constantly going to be the same issue over and over and over again. So just remember that. We can move on to the next question. Okay. How do you handle distance? Well...

Me and Lissette kind of fight like a couple because the longer we're apart, the more communication problems we have. Like when we're together, we don't fight. Like, well, Lexi, you'll be like, oh, can you go get me this? Can you go get me this? Can you go get me this? And I'll be like, what, am I your mom? I'm not doing that. But that's like the extent of our fights when we're together. Like that's it. But then when we're apart, it's like we fight over stupid stuff only because we only fight...

Like, when, yeah, when we're apart, we fight over stupid stuff. I'll be like, it's always stupid stuff. Like, it's like, yeah, like, you won't.

You won't, like, talk at some thing. No, I'm telling you. I can't even say it out loud. It sounds so stupid. Like, I won't. I'll get super caught up in what I'm doing, and I, like, forget to respond to texts, or, like, I won't FaceTime. And then I get mad when you do the same thing. Yeah. Like, we both just forget sometimes that we do have other lives going on because we're so used to communicating 24-7. Yeah. Literally every thought that goes through my head is texted to her or voiced to her. And same thing, vice versa. Yeah. Yeah.

So, all back to communication. I think... Yeah, communication is, like, probably the most important thing. Just, I feel like all around in every aspect of your life, too. Yeah. Like, not even just friends. Mm-hmm. Long distance was definitely an adjustment for us because we went from spending every single day together at school, on the weekends, constantly together, and then she went away up to college, and I was still a senior in high school, and...

It was just super hard to adjust to seeing her with, like, new friends and new people. And it wasn't something that we really talked about too much because it was more something I just knew that I was not being dramatic. It's not something you dealt with just, like, internally because it's... Because I knew that she was still my best friend. I knew that she wasn't doing anything wrong. I knew that she was having fun at college. And it's not like I ever stopped talking to you. Like, we still texted all the time. You just saw me, like, getting close and, like, going out with these other people. And you're like, but that should be me. Just because we, our whole life growing up,

We had always been together no matter what we did. If we went out to a party or something, like we were always together. But now you were seeing me like doing those things with other people and you weren't even there. So I feel like that was it. And same thing. And a lot of people also ask, like, have you guys always been in the same friend group?

Honestly, yes, because we always cheered together, so it was always our cheer friends. And then in high school, we shared pretty much the same friends, except, like, in our classes, because we were in different classes, because we were in a different grade. We knew of all, like... Yeah, she would come to my grades parties, and I would go to her grades parties. So we've always been in the same friend group until that happened. But now, after all these years of her being in college, I would consider myself in her friend group. Like, when I go up and visit them at school, I feel very, like, part of it, you know? Oh, yeah.

Okay, next question. Was it weird for you when I, like, when you went to school, were you ever like, oh, like, Lexi should be here? Not like that, but I feel like I text you and be like, it's so weird going out without you, like, this is so weird. Because you hear, like, the same songs that we listen to. Like, in high school, I don't know if I ever went out without you. I don't think we did. That sounds, like, so bad, but, like...

I mean, not bad. We were, like, connected at the hip. Yeah, actually. If we were in the same grade, we would have won the senior superlative of dynamic duet. Oh, 100%. 100%. And I remember when people would, like, invite you to a party or something, you'd be like, all right, Lisette's coming. I still do that. Yeah, yeah. And they're like, yeah, it'll be, like, obviously type thing. No, I'll get asked on a date. No, but now? I'll get asked on a date and be like, okay, Lisette's coming. No, it's true. She sent me a screenshot and I'm like,

what are you doing? I'm like, I don't know. I don't want to go on a date. I'm scared of boys. But now, now with like getting invited to things, I feel like it's just like, at least on your side, it's like, they won't even say like, hey, come. It's like, come bring Lissette. Yeah, you and Lissette. It's so funny. And same thing with our families. Like, she's part of my family. I'm part of her family. Like, we talk about Lissette on my family vacations if she isn't there all the time. And sometimes,

Same. Yeah, same here. It's funny. But we do a lot of trips together, too. Like, she's just... She's part of the family, and I'm part of the family. Exactly. We move on to the next question now. Do you actually not fight? Well, we kind of talked about that saying the one... Yeah, we kind of just went into it. Yeah, so I guess that we don't really need to cover that up. We just argue like siblings. Yeah. Because it's like... And I wouldn't call them fights. I think it's like bickering. Yeah. That's what it is. And you'll, like...

pissed me off or something, and then, but I'll tell you, I'll be like, why are you acting so sassy, or why are you doing this, and you're like, I'm not, and then we won't talk for, like, ten minutes, and then that's it. No, it's so funny, because I'll be so mad at Lissette, and I'll tell myself, I'm like, okay, I'm actually gonna hold this grudge until she apologizes, like, I am not gonna text her until she says sorry for acting however way, whatever way.

And then I'll, like, come across a TikTok and I'll go to send it to her and I'll be like, no, I'm not sending this one. I'm so mad at her. I'll come across another one that's, like, really good and I send it to her and we'll literally just talk to each other being like, can we not be mad at each other anymore? And then I'll go, wait, you were mad at me? Yeah. No, that exact situation happened probably, like, a week ago. You hadn't talked to me for a while, but I was doing other stuff, so I didn't even notice. And then you sent me a TikTok and you're like, or no, I don't even think you sent it. You just texted me and you were like, can you, like, can we not?

not be mad at each other anymore like I've been wanting to send you like 20 TikToks but I didn't because I told myself I wouldn't text you and then that's when I was like oh you were mad like what and then I said sorry when you explained or whatever yeah normally when we do fight though it kind of goes both ways like it's yeah there's times like I'm just in a bad mood and I'm just like a b-word the fact I couldn't I got scared to say the b-word anyways I'll just be like have an attitude or she'll do the same like once a month

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Next question. It's kind of scary. What do you do if a friendship falls out? Advice. So, we kind of, no, we didn't really touch on it too much. It's a hard thing to back away from a friendship. I've tried to do it, and I'm not very good. I'm not much of an expert on this, because I always go back to people that hurt me. Because I always think that people are going to change, and they're going to trust. And Lissette did that for a while, too. And honestly, ends up doing it also. It just kind of takes you a little bit longer to come around.

I'm not coming around. Okay, she's not coming around this time, she's best. But we say that every time. No! Okay, this one's different for her. But I'll explain. Because Lexi, for some reason, just likes to have people walk over her and then feel bad for them when they're the one... Whatever. That's a topic for another conversation. No, it's a different story time. Leaving a friendship that's hurting you, it comes down to just knowing that you have to put yourself first. And distancing yourself from someone is not an easy thing to do.

Sorry guys, my dog came in the van. Oh my god! You can't fit up! I'm sorry, but we're both- He's trying to jump on the step right now! Oh my god, no like- I think the key is just to take slow steps back, and a lot of times when you're trying to leave a friendship, but it's someone that you're close to, you put a lot- you rely on them a lot, and you end up being the one who keeps texting them, and keeps communicating with them, and keeps asking to hang out with them. Oh my god, you're not gonna- Okay Sam, you can cut that part out when I just like yelled at the dog.

But I'm going to just say that part again. When you're working on distancing yourself from someone, at least for me, I'll find myself still reaching out to them and still like making plans just because I don't know, it's my comfort zone or I rely on that person. I don't really know what it is, but you just have to really slow, slow down, sit back, think about what you need. And if you find yourself wanting to send them something, just don't do it.

simply let it go. And then eventually, it just happens over time. And I feel like over time, though, like, having that time where you're not talking to them, you'll realize if you do want to be friends with them, like, if you actually miss them, and you're like, wait, maybe I shouldn't cut them out. Because, like, when I went through that situation, I realized there was a point where I just stopped even thinking about it. And I was like, okay, then that is what was right. That's what was meant to be. And you also...

If it's like a harder situation than that where you can't really just completely drift yourself, it's important to be honest. Depending on how close you are with the person, I think you could really just be like, I need some space. I'm working on myself and I don't know what's good for me right now. But I need to figure myself out. And a lot of times people can respect that. And if they can't respect that, that's on them. And it's a hard thing to do. I'll say that. And I'm not a professional. I literally suck at doing it. So giving advice is kind of just advice that I need to hear as well.

But that's really all I got on that. Anything else? I think that's it. I mean, a lot of questions kind of touch on the same type of thing. Yeah, that's true. So I feel like we already did touch on the rest of it. Okay. Yeah, a lot of these I feel like...

Resonate with each other. Yeah. How to talk to your friends when something they do or say that upsets you. This one I do want to talk about because this isn't, like, an issue I've ever had with Lissette. This is an issue I've had with other friends, other groups of people, and new friends especially. Like, I'll meet people and I'll think they're great and then we'll be out or something and they'll just start saying comments that I really don't think are okay. Like...

Comments that are just kind of unacceptable are normal for a lot of people, and they shouldn't be. But this person was basically asking, how do I tell them I'm upset with the way that they're talking about other people or treating other people or just acting? Or making jokes that are... Just making disrespectful jokes. Uncomfortable. And I've been in that exact position. And my...

I think my number one tip when something like this happens is be straight up. Be like, I do not like those jokes. They make me uncomfortable and they're really disrespectful.

and see how they take it. A lot of people are willing to just kind of work on fixing that and realize that you're making them a better person. And it's normal for people to slip up a few times after that. Like, we all make mistakes. We're all human. It all takes us a while to adjust. But if it's something that's consistent and it doesn't seem like anything's changing after telling them enough times, you have to, like, draw the line. You're like, I...

You have to realize who you really want to be surrounding yourself with. I've talked about this in a lot of other episodes, but the five people you keep closest to you is who you're eventually going to become. So even though you might love this person in certain settings, if they are constantly making jokes, ripping jokes that just make other people feel bad, you're going to find yourself doing it too. It's inevitable and it's just kind of how things go. So try to see if they're willing to change and if they're not, then...

find yourself backing off because you don't deserve that you don't need that no one deserves that and no one should be treating people that way it's a subject I'm very I feel very strongly about because I've been in that position one too many times and eventually

You just know that you're done. And I feel like it's important to, like, call them out on it because they might not even be aware. Or even just, like, if people are laughing at the jokes, just don't laugh. Yeah. And, like, maybe they'll get the hint or something. Or other people will be like, oh, I wonder why she's not laughing. Like, maybe that's not, like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've been there with that one.

So, I feel you guys. Next question. Are you good friends because you're similar or because you're opposites? Oh my god, Lexi. I say... I think we're more...

I think we're more opposite, 100%. We're definitely opposites. And I think opposites attract as a whole, as a general statement. I consider Lissette to be a very type A person, and I am like, schedule this, this has to be done to do this, and this has to be done to do this. I'm like, super go with the flow, I can do this without doing any of this, let me just work the path. I don't know.

But definitely opposites. And then there's moments, though, where we will be on the exact same brainwave and we'll think the exact same. But I think the brainwave thing is just because we've known each other for so long that our brains are just, like, the way we think is the same, but our personalities are different.

So that's why our brains will be, like, we'll be thinking the same thing at the same time. Be like, whoa, I can't believe you just thought of that. It's actually scary. We will, like, send each other the exact same Instagram story at the exact same time. Yeah, that just happened, like, two days ago. Like, somehow we'll be viewing the same thing at the same time. It's happened on multiple occasions, too. It's super duper weird. Or we'll send each other the exact same TikTok, like, right after one another, like, each other. Yeah.

But I'd say opposites. I'd say opposites, but since we spend so much time together, very similar now. Yeah. And we just work. I don't know. We just work well together. We have a very...

good system of friendship I feel like I don't there's not even a way to describe it because it was just like natural and it's been so long that it's like become that there's no way that we can pinpoint when anything happened or how it happened because I mean we were so young like we don't even know we just kind of grew up and then whatever yep

All right. Next one. Another question was, how do you handle conflict in a healthy way? Communication and honesty and literally just working on getting comfortable enough with a person where you can straight up be like, I don't like when you do this because it makes me feel like this. That's how we've done it. And obviously, I don't remember exactly how we handled conflict when we were little. Like, obviously, I think our parents got involved. But I mean, what kind of conflict did we have when we were in elementary school? Oh my gosh. When we were in Sanibel? Oh!

Alright, so we... It was like, with my family, we took Lexi on our trip to Sanibel. And... I don't even know how old we are. I think it was probably... No, it was definitely after Jamaica. We were young. So, it was probably sixth grade... Middle school. Middle school, okay. No, no, no. Yeah, we didn't... No, we... Wait, no, we weren't. Those pictures, we were so... Oh, it was elementary school, 100%. Anyways, we were in elementary school. Okay, yeah. So, she...

I mean, I guess I was just being lazy. Like, I don't even know what I wanted to do. Sometimes things never change. Yeah, yeah. So, I guess I just wanted to just, like, hang out and, like, relax. And then she wanted to go in the water and, like, go on a tube. And then I was like, Lexi, it's my family vacation. We're supposed to be doing what I want to do, not what you want to do. She went off on me. Yeah. And then she goes back to the room and she starts being bad. My bad.

crying and then my mom goes in and like what's wrong? She's like I want to go home. I'm having my mom pick me up. My mom's coming to pick

however far away we were from home. Yeah. And I think that was, like, one time when we were little, like, our parents would resolve our conflicts. But even when we were little, we didn't have that much conflict. Yeah, that was definitely, like, probably our biggest fight. That was our biggest fight as kids. And then we got over it, what, an hour later? You still stayed on the trip with us. Your mom didn't pick you up. No, it was so stupid. And then we were fine. It was so stupid. But Lissa really went off on me. She's like, this is my trip. We're doing what I want because I invited you here. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like...

I'm going home. I don't even want to be on your family trip anymore. You sound like such a brat. And that was, like, probably your first family trip you came on with us. That was the first mon family trip that I went on. Oh, that's funny. Anyways. And the mon family doesn't go on very many trips. So, yeah. I don't even know what question that was that we got there. But next question is, how open are you guys with each other? Every single thing. Yeah, like...

I mean, I don't really see a reason not... I feel like I'm also, though, very open with everyone. I don't have anything to hide. I don't, like, care. Honestly, me too. You know? Like, I don't think I'm ever, like... I ever, like, have to, like, constrict... I don't know if that's the word. Yeah, it's definitely not the word. Like, I feel like I don't have to hold back in front of people. Yeah. Because, I mean, if they're not going to like me for me, then you're not going to... Me for me. Me for me. Me for me.

Our favorite Kodak song is Me For Me. And then, like, you're just, then we're not ever going to be friends. Yeah. Facts. You tell them. All facts, no printer. Like, I just feel like there's no point in not being open with someone. Advice from Lissette. If you're not going to be me for me, if you're not going to like me for me, you're done. Yeah. Done. No, but really just, we're both open books. But in general, I mean, we know every single detail about each other's, like, daily life. So I would definitely consider us friends.

Super open. Like, I don't think there's anything that I would hide from you. There's not one thing that we haven't told each other. Mm-mm. Like, ever. Yeah, no. Next question. How do you build trust? Don't break it. Yep. Pretty much. Don't break people's trust. Like, it...

I agree.

What's next? Traveling together. Traveling together. I don't really know where we were going with that. Yeah, just the places we've been. But I think a lot of people also ask, like, how do you not get annoyed with each other? Yeah. We definitely do. But you're, like, she's the one person that I could... I mean, we stayed together for a month and a half in Hawaii in the same bed, in the same room. Like, sharing, like, a tiny, tiny, tiny room. Yeah. Tiny bathroom. And we just don't have issues. Like, our fights are so minuscule. And, like we said, they're just bickering. Yeah.

And we just, if we do find ourselves getting super annoyed with each other, we just go on our phones and don't talk for like an hour or two at max. At max? Like that's pushing it a lot. Not even. Oh my gosh. We've also just, one time when we were in Hawaii, me and Lissette, I wanted her to make a TikTok with me so badly and go on a hike with me.

And I went to go record the TikTok and she was giving me absolutely no energy. She was giving me nothing. Which TikTok? I don't remember what the TikTok was, but I remember getting so, so, so pissed off at her. And I was like, I'm going on the hike by myself. Do you remember this? And I was just so, one thing, another person asked, what's our least favorite thing about each other? And what's our favorite thing about each other? Do you want to go first?

No, you can take it. Okay. I know what your least favorite thing about me is. Yeah. It's obvious. It's so easy. For me with Lissette, it's not that she's lazy, because that's like the wrong word. It's that she's either all or nothing.

Like, if I really, really want to do something and she doesn't want to do it, it's not even like she tries to force excitement for it. Like, she'll be like, I don't want to, like, she won't, she'll give me nothing. Like, it's a blessing that she's on this podcast right now because this, like, whole media thing isn't really her thing unless she's in the zone, which I get. Like, I would like that at a point, too. But I just sometimes wish that she would give me a little bit more. Okay.

And also, my love language is words of affirmation, and hers is definitely not. So sometimes I wish she would just give me... We're, like, getting into a whole therapy session right now. Yeah. A little bit more. But, I mean, they're all things that we're working on. And my favorite thing about you is just we have so much fun together. Like, you're just, like, an unmatched... When you do have energy. Like, an unmatched energy, and people just, like, love you, and you're just...

I don't know. You're just Lissette. Like, that's easily my favorite thing. It's what everyone says. It is what everyone says. Like, you're just Lissette. Which, then I'm like, okay, so what does that mean? It means... Where does that help? That doesn't help me. It means that you're funny, you're a great person, you're... Okay, like, I wasn't asking for compliments. I was...

Did that sound like I was fishing? Like, that's not what I meant. Yeah, it actually did. Okay, well, that's not what I meant by that, because I don't like, that makes me awkward. Yeah, so, like, I'm just Lissette. No, no, no, no. Okay, no, like, that's not what I'm saying. Like, I'm saying, like, whenever people, like, I'm just, like, describe me, because I don't even, obviously, I don't know what I'm like. I've never met myself, and everyone's answer is always, oh, you're just Lissette. I'm like, okay, I'm just Lissette. An icon, a legend, like, literally my favorite person ever. Okay, so, anyways, my least favorite thing about Lexi. She's the worst.

Would be her bossiness. Oh, my. And so bossy. She is, like, like, I mean, not all the time, okay? I have moments. Like, I'm not gonna say that. Like, you have moments where you be super bossy, but then you also have moments where you be super, like, giving, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like, you'll kind of do the same. But I feel like that kind of leads into, like, when you are like, oh, she won't do this with me, it's because I get stubborn because you get bossy. Yeah. Because you're like, make this TikTok with me right now. Get up. Get up.

do it. And I'm like, no, I'm not getting up. Like you can't tell me what to do. So then I get stubborn and then you get mad. Cause then I'm not doing it. And then I get mad. I mean, not actually mad, but like, no, I'll be like, stop being so bossy. This is, that's probably like the most we fight about. Yeah. That constant thing in like different forms of it is, is what it is. I'll be bossy and she'll be stubborn. Yeah. And then we'll get over it. But do you have a favorite thing? Favorite? I'm just going to end on my least favorite.

I mean, yeah, like what you said, just like we have fun together and like you're fun to hang out. I'm so bad at confunding people. It's so bad. No, I literally just tried to look at you. It's like really bad. I looked away. She was starting to go off and I looked at her and she goes, I can't do this. No, we just can't do this with each other. I mean, yeah, like you said, I can't do words of affirmation. I can't sit here and tell you the great things about you because...

I think the only reason I've gotten better at, like, affection, not affection, but just, yeah, I guess it is affection. Showing, like, appreciation for Lissette is honestly just in general, like, when I started doing it online and I've had to be, like, such a public person and having a literal podcast and always, like, I don't know, talking in front of a camera and talking to my phone has just made me in person more...

Yeah. I don't know. Vulnerable to people, I feel like, is, like, also a big part of it. But, yeah, that's that. I really do feel like we covered a lot of things in that, and I think if we keep going into more questions, we're just gonna be... I feel like we're just repeating ourselves at this point. Exactly, in different sentences. Yeah. But if you guys want us to do...

a part two with like more specific questions or if you feel like we're helping you learn anything in any way which is so weird to think about yeah but i hope you guys enjoyed this i am really excited that i got to have lucette on the podcast i'm excited to be here i'm excited to be stop i'm sorry honored sorry sorry sorry sorry i think that's really all we got i think we could probably wrap it up um i had fun recording this i guess i guess i never really know how to end

how to end these I say that in every single episode but I will say I'm so grateful for you guys so happy we have this podcast going and I feel like it's on a roll right now I'm starting to work on merch I wanted to get it done before the holidays but I don't know that that's gonna happen just because since COVID like production is super backed up on everything and I want to create something really awesome and it's not just like repping something that says the moments podcast

Like, I want you to gain something from what I create. I want it to be sustainable. So I've decided I'm going to take my time putting it together. But I hope you guys are down to be patient with me because it's going to be awesome. I have a lot of really cool ideas with moments. I want it to be more than just a podcast. Like, I want us to be – it sounds so cheesy. But, like, we are a community. Like, I really think that we've – you guys have taught me so much. I hope that I've taught you guys some cool life tips.

But anyways, I'm just rambling. We're going to end it here. Go catch up with all the other episodes. If you want to know about the van, that's the last episode. And don't forget to like, subscribe, do all... I don't know exactly what you do. Review. But we love you. Lissette, you have any last words? Thank you for having me. Anytime. It took a lot of getting used to. Talking to a microphone in a van, I feel like I'm talking to...

Nobody? Well, it is a weird adjustment. And I think the next one will be even more adjusted. So if you guys want another one, just let us know. But I hope you're smiling, and I love you, and I can't wait to talk to you next Monday. Beautiful people. That was miserable. I love you guys. You're amazing. Have a beautiful rest of your day. Goodbye.