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Ep. 4.5 Stoptimizing: Creativity, Burnout and Life Beyond Productivity with Maria Bowler

2025/3/4
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Nora McInerney: 现代生活节奏快，压力大，许多人都感到筋疲力尽，难以平衡工作和生活。我读了Maria Bowler的新书《创造时间：超越生产力打造生活的新愿景》，书中探讨了如何摆脱生产力陷阱，过上更充实的生活。这本书并非提供具体的技巧或方法，而是引发读者对时间和生活意义的思考，帮助人们找到更健康的生活方式。 我个人也深受生产力压力的困扰，常常感到自己做得不够，应该做得更多更好。这本书给了我很多启发，让我意识到不必总是追求完美，要学会接受不完美，享受生活中的点滴美好。 在与Maria Bowler的对话中，我更加深刻地理解了现代人普遍存在的倦怠感，以及如何克服这种倦怠感。我们探讨了如何平衡工作和生活，如何找到自己的价值，以及如何创造一个更健康、更快乐的生活方式。 Maria Bowler: 我出生在八十年代，当时流行的观念是‘你可以做任何事，你可以成为任何’，这导致人们追求过多的目标，将自我价值与成就紧紧联系在一起。然而，即使实现了目标，也可能无法带来真正的满足感。 我曾经在纽约一家杂志社工作，虽然这是我梦寐以求的工作，但实际工作却很枯燥乏味，而且为了保持这份工作，我不得不一直保持高强度的压力。这种经历让我意识到，仅仅追求目标并不能带来幸福，重要的是要找到一种更平衡、更可持续的生活方式。 在写作过程中，我区分了‘生产’和‘参与’两种心态。‘生产’指的是努力创造，而‘参与’指的是让自己成为创造过程的一部分。我发现，当我能保持‘参与’的心态时，写作过程会更加轻松愉快，而我的成就感也更加平和。 我建议人们不要总是追求完美，要学会接受不完美，找到自己真正热爱的事情，并全身心地投入其中。同时，要学会拒绝不必要的事情，给自己留出足够的休息时间，保持身心健康。

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The conversation begins by acknowledging the widespread exhaustion from modern life's demands. The author's book, "Making Time," offers a different perspective on productivity, focusing on thoughtful living rather than quick fixes. The discussion explores personal experiences of striving for success and the dissatisfaction despite achievements.
  • Widespread exhaustion from modern life
  • Critique of the productivity machine
  • "Making Time" offers a different perspective on productivity
  • Dissatisfaction despite achievements

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Rise and Grind, Girlbosses! It’s time to GROWTH HACK your way to your BEST SELF and make this the ULTIMATE year. If you don’t have time, you can make time, because excuses are no excuse.

Just kidding! Like so many of us, author Maria Bowler found herself caught up in the Productivity Machine, which demands we do more and more and more for the sake of…what, exactly? For the sake of more, of course! 

Maria’s new book, Making Time: A New Vision for Crafting A Life Beyond Productivity is not a book of tips and tricks and life hacks, but a gentler and more generous approach to how we spend our one precious life. It’s a perfect read for anyone who feels burned out and not “enough” – you can get your copy here) and support Maria, small bookstores and this show. 

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