2GB Drive with Chris O'Keefe – Full show July 11
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On Sydney's 2GB, this is Drive with Chris O'Keefe. Good afternoon, Sydney. I hope you're enjoying your Thursday. Happy Thursday. Weekend's just around the corner. Now, we've got lots on this afternoon. Are you a daylight savings fan? I am definitely a daylight savings fan, but the New South Wales farmers, well...

They're pushing to have daylight savings scrapped altogether. I'll dissect that one soon. I reckon that's a shocking idea. Look, there's a major shortage of palliative care medicine too. That is very, very concerning given there are many people who are in end-of-life care and they need that little bit of medicine just to make their last days and weeks as comfortable as they deserve them to be. But the shortage of this medicine really makes you wonder...

And what's actually killed more people, nuclear power or lithium-ion batteries? Look, the safety care scare campaign that the Labor Party's running on nuclear, it's just not based in fact, and I'll explain it in a second. Plus, I've got $1,000 up for grabs in Guess the Olympian, another double pass to Bridge Climb, as well as $200 worth of free fuel. Right now, 17 degrees at Russell Lee and 17 at Greystanes. Live, local and unbiased.

It's Drive with Chris O'Keefe. It's eight and a half past three, 131-873 is our open line number. You can text me 0460-873-873 or if you'd prefer to email, the address is drive at 2gb.com. Now this has just come in to the newsroom from the New South Wales Police.

And it's in relation to two bodies being found in Marsfield, near Macquarie Park there. So police have been called to Menzies Road at Marsfield following the reports of a concern for welfare. So officers attached to the Ryde Police Area Command, they've arrived and found the bodies of two females inside this home in Marsfield. Now, the woman...

She's believed to be in her 50s, dead inside the house, and there is a girl dead inside the house too, believed to be aged in her teens.

Neither have been formally identified yet, according to this information from the police. They've established a crime scene there at Menzies Road at Marsfield, and detectives are commencing an investigation into the circumstances around it. So police called to reports of a concern for welfare. They arrive at this home in Marsfield near Macquarie Park.

And police find two females, one woman in her 50s and a girl in her teens dead inside this home. If you know anything about it, 1-800-333-000. It's quite a concerning incident, obviously, and we'll keep you up to date with any developments throughout the afternoon. But two women dead, a teenage girl and a woman in her 50s found inside that home at Marsfield, 131873.

Now, there's going to be another inquiry into Greyhound Racing NSW. Now, it wasn't all that long ago, was it, that... Well, it doesn't feel like it. It's eight years ago now that Mike Baird decided to ban Greyhound Racing in NSW. He copped a whole lot of flack for it and he had to backflip. So, fast forward, Chris Minns is now the Premier of this great state and he has said, ''We will not be shutting down the Greyhound industry in NSW.''

However, this independent inquiry will be led by an experienced investigator. Her name is the Honourable Lee Drake as Acting Commissioner of the New South Wales Greyhound Welfare and Integrity Commission. And the inquiry will examine complaints about Greyhound Racing New South Wales' governance and operations, as well as the safety of the Greyhound Racing tracks themselves...

and a whole bunch of animal welfare issues that have been raised specifically by the former chief vet of the greyhounds, Alex Britton, in an exit interview that he gave to Human Resources. And on that, there are some concerns that the whistleblowers may not be protected properly in this inquiry, but the minister today, David Harris, he put paid to that. We've always got to be careful with whistleblowers that...

that we don't compromise their identities because that may dissuade other people from coming forward in the future. So legally, we'll be very careful to make sure that people have the opportunity to put on the record their concerns, that those concerns will be examined. But at the same time, we don't want to create an environment where people don't want to talk about issues. So that's the Minister for Gaming and Racing, David Harris there. So the inquiry...

will be conducted in accordance with the Greyhound Welfare and Integrity Commission's powers, and will cover issues like this. Greyhound welfare and the care of greyhounds, including the adoption and rehoming programs, the processes and management, including procurement and recruitment practices of Greyhound Racing NSW, the reporting and accuracy...

So any serious allegations will be referred to ICAC. It also says in this press release and...

The Greyhound Racing New South Wales board will need to show cause to the minister as to why its members should not be stood down from their positions. So the poor old dish lickers in a world of hurt. 131873.

Well, Anthony Albanese has refused to say whether gas is a sustainable investment. It's a bit strange, isn't it?

Now, he's refused to say whether he will categorise gas as a sustainable investment in his promised green rating framework. And this is for institutional investors. So the money markets, effectively, the government will say this is a green rated investment and trying to, I'm going to say, coerce institutional investors to put their money into some of these green rated energy sources. Right.

But gas might not be on that list. Now, this seems strange. So Labor's proposed green rating system will not include gas as, quote, sustainable, even though we need gas. And the Prime Minister's made no bones about the fact we will be using gas for a very long time to come. So I don't know why you can't say it's not sustainable. That's just politics, isn't it? 131873.

Well, Blues coach Michael Maguire, he had a plan to rekindle the famous New South Wales team bus gauntlet. Remember when they used to drive the team bus down Caxton Street towards either Suncorp Stadium or Lang Park?

But that plan's been torpedoed by Queensland police. So Queensland police have said to Madge and the New South Wales Blues, you are not to drive the bus down Caxton Street because it's just far too dangerous, far too dangerous. So it's dead and buried, the practice, driving down past the Caxton Hotel towards Suncorp Stadium, simply because it's...

The Queensland supporters can't be trusted. They bang on the windows of the bus. One year, I think Phil Gould said the bus was almost tipped over because the Queensland supporters, they get into the Caxton Hotel or they get into the pubs and the restaurants in there, they get full of ink and then often can't handle that ink and do things that they...

may well deem, seem to regret down the track. So unfortunately for Michael Maguire to fire up the Blues, he's going to have to find another way because the Caxton Street gauntlet will not be run. Live on 2GB, have your say. 131 873. So we revealed yesterday that the Minsk government will sack 225 people in service New South Wales thanks to a $110 million budget cut.

Now, there are some internal documents increase for people on the phone to service New South Wales to over 25 minutes. At the moment, you're on hold for, on average, two minutes.

So cutbacks in fraud control for grants and rebates are also likely, and there will be potential for delays in getting grants and support programs out to people in natural disasters. So $110 million in cuts to Service NSW, 225 people to be sacked, which will lead to longer wait times at Service NSW, without question. Now, we broke this news yesterday, and we had some whistleblowers call us from inside the organisation.

And it's worse than we thought. So this is just wave one of cutbacks. Wave two comes in August. So more people are expected to lose their jobs in wave two. And employees within Service NSW have been told to expect wave three and wave four of cuts too. Now that makes sense because if the $110 million cost saving is divided across just 225 staff, then...

All of those people, I suppose, are on an average of $450,000 a year each, and that's not possible. So I have been told that the $110 million in cuts for Service NSW is a hard figure. So that's the number they've got to rip out. How Service NSW gets to that number is up to them. Now, there could be more than 225 people who lose their jobs. It just depends on how management determines to save that money.

So what will this do to the service at Service NSW? That is my big question. And I asked Minister Jihad Dib this directly on air yesterday, if you missed it, and I said, listen, if you stuff up Service NSW because the men's government is trying to be tight with money, then there is definitely going to be voter backlash, without question. Service NSW is a triumph. It is a great success.

organisation that does really good things for the people of New South Wales, but for some reason it's now being targeted by the Minns government for cost savings. $110 million now, just wave one. Looks like we'll get wave two, three and four of job cuts too. They're going to want to hope to God it doesn't impact service. 18 past three.

It's 22 minutes past three and you can have your say on the 2GB open line 131873. You can also have your say for less with Amazim. Don't pay too much for your mobile plan. Break free from your expensive telco and escape to better value with the Escape Plan by Amazim. Now, did you see that Labor MPs have been told off for using those stupid cartoons and the jokes and the memes with three-eyed fish and the like?

And they've been told off because it is a bad way to counter the nuclear argument, the Labor apparatchiks have concluded. Well, they're finally cottoned on that this is a stupid thing to do. So Queensland Labor MP Graham Perrott has even gone on the record about this. Now, Graham Perrott has told the Australian newspaper, it was important not to alienate people who wanted to have a discussion about nuclear...

And he says this, quote, it's not something I joke about because I think you can't be serious about cost of living if you are joking about nuclear power. Power is a serious issue for people. Look, he's spot on, Graham Perrott there. It is a serious issue for people. And this is Labor again, political and intellectual arrogance. Can't get out of their own way sometimes. And these stupid memes and jokes about the safety of nuclear power, they are just not based in fact, nor are they based in reality.

So here are some facts. I've done a whole bunch of digging on this and I did lots and lots of research on it. So since 1945, only about 500 people have lost their lives in nuclear accidents all around the world. So that's it. In almost 80 years, 500 people globally have lost their lives in nuclear accidents.

Now, many of which are from radiotherapy or medical nuclear experiments rather than accidents at power stations themselves. And almost every single one of them occurred before the turn of the century. Now, that's a number that might surprise you, only 500, considering the fears that the community often associates with nuclear energy.

Now, contrast that against a much more recent statistic. So in just the past two years, nearly 300 people have perished in fires. Just in the last two years, 300 people have perished in fires sparked by lithium-ion batteries. You know, the things they put in electric bikes and scooters.

So let's just break that down. Nuclear accidents, well, of course, devastating when they occur. They've been relatively rare and thankfully infrequent in their fatalities. Now, these incidents, they get massive media attention. They provoke widespread concern about safety and environmental impact. Sure. Yet the actual human toll remains surprisingly low given the magnitude of these supposed events. So,

You've got lithium-ion batteries on the other side, electric bikes and scooters, which have been enabled and championed, mind you, as an answer to climate change. There is no question they are on balance more dangerous to human life than nuclear energy. The last major nuclear power accident was when the Fukushima nuclear power plant was the subject of that tsunami and earthquake back in 2011.

And that was rated as the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl. You know how many people died in that? Directly from the nuclear accident at Fukushima. How many do you think? One. And it was from cancer seven years later. In comparison, just two weeks ago, in a lithium-ion battery factory in South Korea, 22 workers died because of a massive fire. 22. How many in Fukushima? One. Seven years after the incident.

Now, will Labor MPs create cartoons with e-scooters or e-bikes catching on fire and spreading this scare campaign around theirs? Of course not, because that's an issue that's got a sanction to be okay by the left of politics. So we're not going to make jokes about e-scooters or e-bikes because they're good for the environment. Well, they're not good for human life.

So how about we have a bit of perspective in evaluating risks associated with different technology? So while nuclear energy evokes deep-seated fears of these catastrophic accidents, the actual number of lives lost has been remarkably low over the decades. While in contrast, the rapid adoption of lithium-ion battery-powered devices...

There's been unforeseen risks that have cost hundreds of lives in just a short few years. Yet why is nuclear, nuclear power being demonised by the Federal Labor Government and e-bikes are not? You tell me. 131873.

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The inside word on everything Sydney. It's Drive with Chris O'Keefe on 2GB. Trish has called in from Liverpool. Trish, there's something happening on the roads you've seen. Yeah, there was a delivery truck and a ute stopped in both right lanes turning right onto Newbridge Road. This is the intersection past Heathcote Road coming down Moorbank Avenue. Traffic backed up completely all the way past the M5.

It's going to be a slow run through there now at this time of the afternoon, that's for sure. Good on you, Trish. I really appreciate the heads up, and I'm sure many of us do too. That's Trish at Liverpool. Truck breakdown with a... It was a delivery truck, Trish reckons. Intersection of Heathcote Road and Newbridge Road there, and traffic is banked back all the way up the M5. Sharon's called in from Kingsford. Sharon...

You've got a strange text message from Energy Australia, I'm told. Yeah, well, I just wanted to know whether you were aware or anybody else was aware of this, Chris. Apparently there's been a change to the federal government rollout of the $300 rebate and it won't come into effect now. I thought it was the 1st of July.

That's what I thought too. So what does it say on the text message, Sharon? Is this text message purporting to be from Energy Australia? Yes, yes. And it's now been rolled out on the 31st of July and it appears that – and it won't – actually it says that it won't be fully in effect until the 19th of August.

So this text from Energy Australia... Sorry, I'm just going to clear this up. So this text from Energy Australia says the federal government has made changes to the $300 energy rebate. It will now come into effect from the 31st of July and won't be fully in effect when? Until when? 19th of August. Right.

Right, okay. Well, we've spoken to the Treasurer's Office, Jim Chalmers, and he said they've made no such changes. So has this text message, Sharon, we've asked Energy Australia, but has this text message got a link or anything on there? Does it look dodgy? Yeah, it does. Yeah, yeah. No, it doesn't look dodgy. It just looks like an Energy Australia text. But

It's not a scam, is it? Why would that be a scam? I mean, why would that be a scam one? I don't know. Don't click the link, though. You never know. No, no, no, no, I haven't. But I just thought, I've not heard about it. And funnily enough, I got my energy bill, electricity one, on Friday. Not only has it gone up $130, which I'm...

beside myself but it's got nothing on there saying minus the $75 rebate so are we not going to know whether there's been a rebate if there has been one because there's no nothing on the bill at all

Well, Sharon, I'm just a little bit worried about that text message. Please don't click it. It could be a scam. Tim on the text line says, Chris, I've got the same message. Got it 15 minutes ago. Sharon, we've got a call into Energy Australia. Jim Chalmers' office says they've made no such changes. So this doesn't just quite add up. So bear with us and we'll see how we go with getting some answers out of Energy Australia. Thank you so much for your call. Thank you so much for your call, Sharon. I've got to run off to the news. You have a good afternoon.

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Josh Bright in the newsroom. G'day. Good afternoon, Chris. A police investigation is now underway after a woman and a teenage girl were found dead inside a home at Marsfield. Police have described the alleged murder of three children in a house fire at Layla Park as one of the worst cases of its kind in the state. A new inquiry into greyhound racing in New South Wales has been unveiled by the state government, which will look into claims made by whistleblowers as well as examining complaints about the governing body's governance and operations.

and research suggests ineffective teaching methods may be contributing to poor maths results among students across Australia. In sport, Ash Barty has once again shot down rumours of a tennis comeback after playing in a Legends doubles match at Wimbledon. The frustrated Aussie told reporters she's run out of ways to say no, she won't be coming back to tennis. We'll have more news in sport at four.

Thanks, Josh. It is 28 to 4. I'm going to speak to a New South Wales farmer from Griffith coming up next because the New South Wales farmers are going to vote on scrapping daylight savings. They want to scrap daylight savings, our farmers. Why? I love daylight savings. And it would be remiss of me not to mention this. The great Dennis Lee, who delivers our traffic updates so superbly and expertly, a big happy birthday. Dennis, let's check the traffic.

Well, I'm a big, big fan of daylight saving. I absolutely love it. I absolutely love it. You get home from work, you spend a bit more time with the kids in the sunshine, you can go for a lovely walk and life's just a bit better in the sun, isn't it? Of course it is. But things might be about to change if the New South Wales farmers get their way. So next week, members of the Farmers Association will vote on whether they should knock two months off daylight saving. So daylight saving itself would finish earlier.

So historically, farmers, they oppose daylight saving because it means they start their day in the darkness during summer. So in most cases, you're probably still dark until 7am. But an argument can also be made that farmers can spend extra time with their kids in the afternoon, can't it? So where's the line anyway? Rod Gribble, he's a farmer from rural New South Wales and he's on the line for us. Rod, g'day.

G'day mate, how you going? Do you hate daylight saving, do you? Yeah, that's a pain. I mean, not real good for us. I'll just correct you there. My main business is contract harvesting and we have a small farm. But I'm hopefully, what the proposal is, to knock a month off either end because it starts too early and goes too long. So you want to go through, what, November through February or something? Or November through March? November.

Yeah, well, it should be just only, you know, in the summer months. But, look, I can understand why, you know, you and city people like it and some townspeople do. But for us, it's a supreme pain in the arse in the early and late start of the year because...

You know, it's dark in the mornings when it starts. So how can that be any daylight saving? And, you know, for our business, as well as you've got to think about the kids going to school. You know, they're standing out on the side of the road when it's dark in that early time. That's not a good idea.

So, you know, a proposal to drag a month off either end is a good compromise for everyone. How does it affect farmers? You know, for people who've never lived on the land and worked on the land, tell me how it affects your day.

Okay. Well, for instance, even though, you know, we work any time, but if we want supplies from town, and specifically in, say, my job, you know, harvest time, things like that, most businesses shut down at 5 o'clock, which is probably got another three and a half hours of daylight at that.

And so if you need some parts or things like that, you can either not get them or you have to pay a premium because those businesses, they may offer an after-hours service, but they've got to pay those staff double, triple time, which is all passed on to us. Often we've got to pay what's called an opening service for someone to go down there and get some parts for us. After 5 o'clock.

Yeah, yeah, yep. What's daylight savings got to do with that then? Okay, obviously we need a big lesson here of learning. Harvest doesn't finish at 5 o'clock. It goes all day, you know, from whatever time it is in the morning to whatever time at night is. And so if you break down, as in, you know, you need some parts or things like that, and that business is closed, how are you going to get parts to keep going?

Yeah, sure, but if they close at 5, they close at 5, right? I'm not following you. Sorry, I'm not following you. That's obvious. Probably I'll have to maybe put it into maybe your context and let me just have a think about this. Say, okay, you get paid by the hour or you're on a salary. Just say you get paid by the hour and the business decides, well, let's kind of shut it, you know, 1 o'clock.

So you don't get paid anymore just because the business decides to shut. You only get paid for the hours that it's open. Yeah, right. Rod, I've got absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but I appreciate you coming on. Thank you so much for giving us your insight to it. I think you might be able to vote on it for the New South Wales Farmers Conference, but I don't think it's going to go anywhere. Thanks so much for your time. 131873. It's 19 minutes to four.

It's a quarter to four and I've got a special school holiday treat for you. So I've got tickets to the Sydney Symphony Orchestra. The Sydney Symphony Orchestra is just magnificent. Beautiful, right? Parents, grandparents, it's certainly one to bring the kids to. Family-friendly show, this one. It's to introduce kids to the world of orchestral music. It's called the Symphonic World of Dance.

So give us a call, 131873. First five callers will get the tickets. If you want to go see the symphonic world of dance, first five callers, give me a call, 131873. I've got some tickets for you. It's on at the Opera House next Saturday, July 20. So don't call in if you can't make it. Saturday, July 20. I've got the tickets for it. It's a great activity for the school holiday. So 131873 if you want to go.

If it's happening in Sydney, you'll hear it on Drive on 2GB. Well, the New South Wales Labor government, here's a little bit more planning propaganda from the men's government. They're going to use a league table to expose councils that are dragging their heels in approving DAs.

So they need 377,000 extra homes within five years. And the league table, it's been published for the first time on Thursday, and Georges River, North Sydney, and the Sutherland Shire are the slowest councils in Greater Sydney in terms of approving DAs. So if you live in Georges River, North Sydney, or Sutherland Shire, you probably know that if you've got a DA. They're the slowest councils in terms of delivering DA approvals.

But if you live in Wallandilly or Blacktown, you're laughing. Most speedy. So it takes 53 days if you live in Wallandilly to get a DA assessed and 65 days if you live in Blacktown to get a DA assessed. That is very fast. George's River, 259 days. They should be ashamed of themselves. They've got absolutely no reason for that, George's River. You know, in and around Coggera, Hurstville.

Oatley, Mortdale, I know the area extremely well. And for them to be taking 259 days to approve DAs or assess DAs is just far, far too long. Anyway, well done to Wallandilly and Blacktown still. The league table, all it does is shame councils rather than build homes. The council isn't going to take any notice of it, are they? 131873. There's a man that's been charged after... He's been charged with murder.

of three children after that Layla Park fire on Sunday. So he's 28 years old. We can't say his name for legal reasons, but he's been charged with three counts of murder, five counts of attempted murder, as well as destroy damaged property with intent to endanger life. And he was charged after he woke from that induced coma at Westmead Hospital, where he was being treated for burns and smoke inhalation.

Three kids, a five-month-old girl and two boys aged two and six were killed in the fire. And I heard Danny Doherty, the head of the homicide squad, call it one of the worst, one of the worst incidents that he's seen of this nature ever.

in New South Wales history. Now, this guy, the 28-year-old, remains under police guard at Westmead Hospital and inquiries under Strike Force Carriage, sorry, Cabridge, do continue. Live on 2GB, have your say. 131 873. Alan's called in from Dover Heights. G'day, Alan.

Yeah, I've just stepped down off the harvester up here, mate. At Dover Heights. Yeah, yeah, and getting the weed in. That farm that you spoke to, I always thought that those harvesters, I thought he said he had a small farm and he was a contract harvester. I always thought that they went day and night, those blokes, when they were harvesting. And it didn't matter what the clock said. Like if it was 11 o'clock at night, they'd still be working.

Yeah, and if it was 11 o'clock at night, they'd need parts, right? So I couldn't follow his argument. I wasn't being rude. I was just trying to... To be completely honest, if the farmers want to put a proposal to the New South Wales government and say daylight saving is too long, well, be my guest. That's a fair argument to have. I just couldn't make heads or tails of what he was saying. I support him on that. I support him on that.

But, you know, cutting a month off at the start and cutting a month off at the back, I'd agree with it. But, you know, he just – I think he's barking up the wrong tree by saying that he can't get parts. Well, you won't be able to get parts if it's 3 o'clock in the morning if you're still stripping wheat. Yeah, fair point. Good on you, Alan. Appreciate your call as always. Brian's at Cronulla. Hello, Brian. Hey, Chris. Love the show, mate. Thank you, Brian. Good, thanks, mate.

Oh, look, mate, we've got to keep daylight saving. It's a must, an absolute must. And, look, I love our farmers. They do a great job. I buy all their produce just like every other city slicker. But, you know, think about family. And, I mean, if that bloke could take a back step and just say, think about your family. There are double-income families everywhere trying to make ends meet. We get home. There's not much time spent with the kids because no daylight. Right.

So we have a bit more daylight. We're going to actually take the kids down to the park, spend a bit of time with them. Think of all the electricity we save by not burning all those lights, you know, night on night for training and all that sort of stuff. So I understand it's a bit of give and take, but we can't get rid of daylight saving, please. I agree with you, Brian. I absolutely love it. And as someone who works until six o'clock at night, if I can get home and take Henry to the park, I'll take that every single day of the week. Good on you, Brian. Tim's at Mascot. Hello, Tim.

Bye, Chris. Mate, that whole interview just beggars belief. Like, I can't see the farmer cruising around with an Apple iWatch. So if he doesn't like it, just don't stick to the daylight savings sign. That makes no sense, mate. Didn't make any sense to me either. Good on you, Tim. Appreciate your call. Sandra's at Dural. Hello, Sandra.

What was it like growing up on a market garden? Sandra, I've always wondered.

Well, it's a bit different to the big farms out in the central west because it's more hands-on. We obviously do have tractors and a bit of machinery, but it's head down, bum up because it's more hands-on the way I grew up, you know, obviously quite a few years ago, but far more intensive. But I didn't know any of the farmers or any of the kids in the Hills District where I grew up, they all loved it. What kind of stuff did you grow?

Everything from tomatoes to cucumbers, zucchinis, potatoes, cabbages, carrots, everything, a bit of everything. Good on you, Sandra. I really appreciate you. It's one of the, I think, great... I know there's a few still around sort of Londonderry and places like that, but it's one of the great shames of the Sydney sprawl that...

Our market gardens have sort of gone by the wayside. I remember Barton Park right near the airport there. I think they're still there. There were Chinese market gardens when I was a kid. I'm sure they're still there. Maybe they're not. But we used to have them in suburbs all across the city, didn't we? But unfortunately, with all the houses that we've built and all the people that we've needed to fit in, lots of those market gardeners have made a whole lot of money out of their land. I'm going to go to Ian at Goulburn. Hello, Ian. Good, thanks, Ian.

Yeah, we're a sheep and cattle farmer. There are good and bad things. We also make hay. We make loosened hay and we need dew. So at night, we'll start baling an hour later. But in the morning, it gives us an extra hour on the clock to rake. So it's sort of good and bad, so it's all fine.

If you're shearing, it gives you another hour of daylight after the shearers knock off to get sheep back to their paddock and shed up and do things like that. And my comment about the New South Wales time is they're only voting on it.

And I can tell you, there aren't too many farmers who are members of the New South Wales Farmers' Now because they've got uses like that, fella, coming on and speaking for them. No wonder most farmers have rejoined like I have. You know what? Farmers are fair dinkum kind of characters. Let's be fair dinkum for a second. Would it matter what the Farmers' Federation votes on, the New South Wales Farmer votes on? It's not going to happen, is it?

No, of course not. We've got a democracy. All right, Ian, good on you. I appreciate your call. Thanks so much and keep up the good work. 131873. Now, we won't take these calls on air, but congrats to Sally, Maria, Brian, Sylvia and Karen. They're all going to the Symphony Orchestra, the Sydney Symphony Orchestra at the Opera House, the school holidays. If you want to go, Saturday the 20th of July, the Symphonic World of Dance.

is on. It's on at 10am. So if you want to go, there are heaps of tickets around. Jump online and get them. It will be a wonderful school holiday event.

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Now back to Drive with Chris O'Keefe on Sydney's 2GB. It's seven minutes past four. Thank you for your company on this Thursday afternoon. 131873 is my open line number. If you want to give me a text, 0460873873. Or, of course, you can email me, drive at 2GB.com. Lots to give away still this afternoon. We've got a double pass tomorrow.

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Drive with Chris O'Keefe on 2GB. Now, a little bit more information on what's occurred here at Marsfield. If you've missed it, the bodies, we can now confirm at least, the bodies of a mother and teenage daughter have been found in a home in Marsfield near Ryde. Now, police were called to the home on Menzies Road.

And it was just after 10.20 this morning, and there was clearly reports of a concern for welfare. I've just seen some footage come through on Nine News, and it looks to be just a normal brick home in a suburban street. So it's not a block of apartments or anything like that, just a normal brick home in a street on Menzies Road in Marsfield.

So the woman in her 50s and the girl in her teens, yet to be formally identified, however, we can confirm they are mother and daughter, and both are now deceased. Obviously, police are there. They're going to be there for quite some time. If you're in and around the area, give Menzies Road a wide berth.

However, if you know anything that's occurred here, call Crime Stoppers 1-800-333-000 because detectives, crime scene investigators, they're all there at the moment, 131-873. Now, palliative care patients, unfortunately, they're facing quite a significant amount of uncertainty because there is an ongoing shortage of crucial pain medicines.

in particular morphine-based medicine. So if you have had experience with palliative care with a loved one, you know that you are just desperate for them to be comfortable. That's all it is. All you want in palliative care is for your loved one to be comfortable in their final days or final weeks. And of course, morphine-based medicines ensure that is the case.

Yet over the past year, at least six essential pain medications have been withdrawn from the Australian market. And because of that, doctors are trying to find alternatives. Now, some of these alternatives just don't work as well. And some of them also cause unwanted side effects. Again, you just want your loved one to be comfortable. And less effective unwanted side effects is not comfortable.

And the replacement medicines too, they can be a bit more expensive because most of them are not listed on the PBS. So the Therapeutic Goods Administration got in touch with this about it. And they tell us that they recognise that this is a real problem with manufacturers suddenly pulling the pin on products in Australia with no warning whatsoever. But the TGA says they can't compel...

people to manufacture these products and medicines and then continue to supply them in Australia they can't guarantee their availability Dr Michelle Gold is the president of the of the Australia New Zealand Society of Palliative Medicine and she's also the director of palliative medicine at the Alfred Hospital in Melbourne and I'm pleased to say she's given us some of her time doctor thank you so much

Thank you for the opportunity to have a chat. No, this is terrible. And I know from first-hand experience what it's like to have loved ones in palliative care, and it's just, it's hard enough, let alone seeing them in pain.

That's right and often people have taken a little while to work out a stable and effective pain regimen with their doctors and to have to change that really when you're in the last months or even weeks of your life is not something any of us want to see. So what is the situation at the moment? Why are these manufacturers just pulling the morphine based medicines from the Australian market?

The pharma companies don't actually give us a reason for withdrawing the medications in most situations. There have been other drugs, not necessarily pain medications, where some of the items that you need to make it have become hard to find. But in this situation, that's not the case. More things have been around for decades. I think it's a commercial decision, unfortunately. As in the Australian market's just not big enough?

Not big enough and maybe not profitable enough. So when you talk about replacements, what are some of these replacement medicines and what are the problems with them?

The main replacements for the oral morphine liquid are other brands of the oral morphine liquid. The main problems are that they're not on the PBS as you indicated. So people can be paying multiples more than if they had a prescription of PBS medication, so six times as much if you like. And that's a real burden on people. I don't need to tell anyone about the cost of living crisis at the moment and to add this onto it is really hard for people.

Especially people who effectively are on their way out.

Well that's right and then they may even, their partner may also have to stop work to help care for them. But the other problem that we're concerned about is that some of these replacement medications, even if you can afford them, are a different strength to the ordine mixture that people have been used to. And that can lead to mistakes happening where people might accidentally and completely inadvertently either take an overdose or an underdose and then leave themselves in pain.

What can we do to fix it other than just make the stuff here and have the government direct the pharmaceutical companies to supply the Australian market?

So they would be two really wonderful solutions, but there doesn't seem to be any ability for that to happen in the foreseeable future. What ANSPAN would like to see is that the minimum period that a company must provide notification before withdrawing a product should be at least 12 months, and that would provide more time for these substitutes and other brands to apply to PBS for listing products.

Sure. As the Minister, Mark Butler, he's usually pretty reasonable and responsive. Has he said anything to you about this? We've requested a meeting with Minister Butler, but we haven't been able to meet with him as yet. The TGA, anything from them? Well, the TGA are certainly aware of all of this and have been...

very much trying to keep doctors informed by keeping information on their website as to what products are available. But as I said, if you can't get them at a reasonable price, and in fact, if most community pharmacies aren't able to access them at all, it doesn't really help the patients. Sure. Doctor, I really appreciate you jumping on. Thank you so much. It's a difficult topic, but one that we need to discuss because we can't have people that have lived long and fruitful lives just writhing in pain in their final days or weeks. I really appreciate it.

My pleasure. Thank you for your interest. That's Dr. Michelle Gold. She's the president of the Australia New Zealand Society of Palliative Medicine. 131873, if you've got a personal experience with this, what's your experience being in palliative care or with palliative care, I should say?

It's a terribly difficult period, really, really difficult. Lindsay says on the text line, Chris, the other big story in this space is a looming critical shortage of IV fluids. We've been told that there is no supply until December and that will put lives at risk potentially. Lindsay, thank you for that. We will definitely chase that one up with both the TGA and the minister. But intravenous fluids, critical shortage, no supply until December.

Live, local and only on 2GB. It's Drive with Chris O'Keefe. Well, a US man has been charged over a $7 million meth package. This story in the Daily Telegraph. So it's a joint investigation with Homeland Security and the American man is facing a life sentence in Australia for attempting to possess 250 kilograms of methamphetamine.

So police are alleging the 40-year-old agreed to purchase the meth for more than $7 million from an organisation based in the United States. And the AFP arrested this guy at Sydney Olympic Park yesterday after he allegedly attempted to take possession of the drugs. So they searched a Silverwater address at the same time, uncovered a number of items. They will be placed under further investigation, but...

It's part of a larger investigation between the AFP and Homeland Security into a US organised crime group who they allege are helping import border controlled drugs into Sydney. So 250 kilograms of methamphetamine this guy is alleged to have tried to take carriage of.

$7 million worth. He is now in custody and is potentially facing a life sentence, 131873. Well, I don't know if you heard this with Ray Hadley a little earlier, but our very own David Thirsty Morrow, he will be fast-tracked into the NRL Hall of Fame. So David Thirsty Morrow is going to be fast-tracked into the NRL Hall of Fame and he's

thoroughly, thoroughly deserved. Now, Ray Hadley spoke about this this morning, and he said that after a meeting of the judges, he... Look, there was one of sorrow but joy that David was to be acknowledged as a member of the NRL Hall of Fame. And Ray spoke to Thirsty's wife, Christine, yesterday about this. And, look, emotional...

I'm told that everybody was trying to hold it together because, of course, Thirsty has been diagnosed with brain cancer. He is battling brain cancer. He was awarded an Order of Australia medal in 2005 for services to the community, sport and sports broadcasting. So for Thirsty, who's called rugby league for, you know, decades and decades, 40, 50 years, 50 years Thirsty's been calling. So for him to be a member now of the NRL Hall of Fame is...

thoroughly, thoroughly deserved. So to Thirsty, we're all thinking of you, mate, and that is something that all of us here at 2GB and everybody in the wider rugby league community are just so happy for you because you just deserve it, mate. You really do, and we're hoping you're going okay. 18 past four.

It is 22 minutes past four and the 2GB open line is ready to hear from you. 131873 can have your say for less with Amazim. Don't pay too much for your mobile plan. Break free from your expensive telco and escape to better value with the escape plan by Amazim. Now, here's an interesting one. So the Mona Art Gallery, you'd probably call it an art gallery, wouldn't you? The Museum of Old and New Art in Tasmania. The Australian's reporting that

They've been fooling the world at Mona because the Picasso that it's displayed for three years, well, all of the Picasso paintings that have been hanging at Mona in Tasmania are fakes. They're fakes. And the clue should have been locations for the three works. Now, initially, Mona's ladies' lounge, a woman's only space, but it was shut down by discrimination, anti-discrimination court. Well, it was hung there and it was also hung in a woman's toilet in

And the real creator of these quote-unquote Picassos have been disclosed as artist Kersha Kacheli, the flamboyant and provocative wife of wealthy gallery owner and professional gambler David Walsh.

And the fake Picassos, they said it was just a bit of fun. Others are saying Mona has effectively been defrauding the people who've been visiting there, hoping to get a glimpse of these Picasso artworks, masterpieces. What do you make of that? Do you think it's a bit of fun or do you think it's a bit much? I know that Mona is supposed to be a different kind of art gallery.

bit edgy, pushing the boundaries on your traditional art galleries that we have in Sydney and Melbourne and the like. But I don't know about this. If you're going to promote the fact that you've got Picassos hanging in a gallery, only two years later tell everybody, hey, sorry, those were fake. Might have taken photos next to them or admired them and we treated you like morons because no, no, no, they're not Picassos. They're fake.

All right, second clue for $1,000 in Guess the Olympian. At 18 years old, at 18 years old, this Aussie won the blue-ribboned men's 100-metre freestyle Olympic title at Rio in 2016. So at Rio in 2016...

At just 18 years old, this Aussie won the men's 100 metre freestyle. Okay, so that's your second clue. If you think you know the answer to who this Olympian is, give us a call after five o'clock. I'll give you the cue to call and there'll be $1,000 on its way. 131873. I've just got Mick who's texting, Chris, just heard about the shortages of crucial medical supplies. What would happen if there was a global conflict?

We as a nation have to start and look after number one, us. Well, Mick at McGrath's Hill, I do, well, I do agree with you. And I've been banging on about this for a long time. Australian manufacturing, be it pharmaceuticals, be it trains, planes and automobiles, be it anything. We saw it with the pandemic.

When the whole world was trying to get the one thing, as in face masks, there was one Colourbond shed in Shepparton in Victoria that made face masks. That was it. Nowhere else could manufacture them. Yet we needed hundreds of millions of the things. And when you can't import them from overseas because your supply lines are cut off, what do you do? So I just think it is really reductive of Australian governments of all persuasions.

to think that we can't make things here in this country. So if I hear a politician, I don't care if they're Greens, I don't care if they're Teals, Labor, Liberal, doesn't matter. If they stand up and say, we want to own and make things here in Australia, they'll always have my support, including when it comes to our pharmaceuticals. Ben's called in from Bly Park. Hello, Ben. Hey, mate, how are you? I'm well, thank you, Ben. What's happening?

I just don't think anyone should really be that surprised about the lack of medication. Paleo care has been in crisis in this country for years now and we went ahead and legalized euthanasia coast to coast. We've seen it happen around the world. When you legalize euthanasia, the companies that were making this thing off at a loss don't want to do it anymore.

So do you think legalising voluntary assisted dying is what, trying to solve the problem of palliative care or it's adding to the problem of palliative care? I think it was a mistake to legalise it without addressing the palliative care problem in the first place. I'm not going to claim that anyone did it deliberately to try and solve that problem, but it was a problem that could have been fixed, something that didn't have to happen, and now we've made it easier and...

We've seen it happen across the world. You introduce euthanasia, the companies who are making these products at a loss don't want to do it anymore. They've got other products, they make them instead. Well, Ben, it's a good point. And we've got a problem here in Australia, and we've always had this problem in the sense that our market is small, right? There's not many of us. So if you've got overseas companies making things, whether it's cars...

morphine-based medicines for palliative care, there's not a whole lot of people here that they can sell it to to make a whole lot of money in comparison to, say, Europe, the United States, Asia and the like. But what I want to ask you, Ben, is when it comes to palliative care in crisis, of course it is, it's been that way for a long time. And this might sound a little cold, however, legalising voluntary assisted dying or euthanasia

It does address that problem. Logic tells you it does address that problem in palliative care to some level anyway.

Look, maybe in a logical way it does. It is quite a cold approach. But how many people are being pushed into euthanasia who otherwise wouldn't if the palliative care services were where they need to be and where they want to be? You spoke to an expert before in palliative care. I bet if she could have her way, she'd be doing things a whole lot different. We'd have the medicines, the services we actually need.

rather than ignoring that problem and offering this alternative, which is a really cruel and, in my opinion, inhumane alternative. Ben, I appreciate you jumping on. Thank you so much. It's a very difficult conversation sometimes to have, especially around euthanasia and voluntary assisted dying. And I was always of the view, I was always of the view when it comes to voluntary assisted dying that I can't,

Am I comfortable with it? No, I'm not. Am I going to judge anyone who decides to do that for themselves? No, I'm not. It's ultimately up to the individual, isn't it? And my concerns are always about families trying to coerce their loved ones who are sick into making that decision.

and the guardrails around people making that decision to ensure that they are making it with all their faculties. But still, am I comfortable with it? No, but of course, there wouldn't be many humans that are comfortable with the idea of it. However, I certainly won't be judging anyone who decides to go down that path.

In the newsroom, Josh Bryant. G'day. Good afternoon, Chris. An investigation is underway into the deaths of a woman and a teenage girl whose bodies were found in a home at Marsfield in Sydney's north. The New South Wales Greens are criticising the state government's new greyhound racing inquiry, describing it as politically constrained.

Police hold concerns for the owner of fishing gear found on rocks at Newcastle Beach. A search was conducted but no one was found nearby the items at Dudley Beach. And a report shows two in five working women have experienced a decline in their mental health over the last 12 months. In sport, round 19 of the NRL kicks off tonight in Brisbane. The Rabideaux is looking for six straight wins when they take on Wayne Bennett's Dolphins. We'll have more news in sport at five.

Thanks, Josh. 131873. Here's something. Former New South Wales Premier Dominic Perrottet has been snapped having coffee with former Prime Minister Scott Morrison. These photos are in the Daily Telegraph. And the telly is reporting that Dominic Perrottet is just days, maybe weeks away from resigning as the member for Epping. Now, I'm sure that's true of...

I know that's true, I should say. Whether it's days or weeks, I don't know what the timeline is, but Dominic Perrottet will clearly not be seeing out his term as the member for Epping. He's got seven children. He can't be sustaining a family on a backbench's wage. And he's been the Premier of New South Wales, being in opposition...

as a backbencher, is probably not on his... Well, he's done everything that he can do in Parliament, in my view. So all the best to Dominic Perrottet if he does decide to quit the New South Wales Parliament and follow his mate Matt Keane on the way out. It's 29 to 5. Well, today's an important day for our country and for our veterans because it is the inaugural Middle East Area of Operations commemoration.

Been a lovely ceremony, a touching ceremony at the Cenotaph in Martin Place, and I'm glad that this day's been created. I think that our Middle East veterans, well, they're the new forgotten veterans. We never forget the Anzacs, the Diggers of World War I and World War II, and it took us a while, but we're now starting to rightly commemorate our Vietnam War veterans as well as our Korean War veterans. And I think it's high time that we

and remember those who have put their lives on the line in the Middle East, as well as those who lost their lives and those families who are still with us. Now, Australia's participation in the Middle East has come at a terrible cost. 41 lives lost in Afghanistan and two in Iraq and Kuwait.

And while many have returned with long-lasting physical and mental trauma, I know a couple myself, guys who are in the armed forces. They went to Afghanistan and they've come home and they're just not the same guys that I grew up with. They're not. And they've suffered a terrible toll. And I know from firsthand speaking to them that they do feel like they are sometimes a forgotten part of our military history.

So today I think is a good step in the right direction. Mick Bainbridge is the president of the New South Wales RSL. He did tours himself in Afghanistan and East Timor and I'm glad to say he's on the line. Mick, g'day.

G'day, thanks for having me, mate. No, thank you for coming on. How's today been for you? It's been tiring, but it's been extremely rewarding to see, you know, old veterans, young veterans, all of them coming together with the community and especially with their families to commemorate the inaugural commemoration of the Middle East area of operations. July 11, why did we choose this date?

Look, there was a fair few dates put out there to the membership. This date in particular was voted on. It did have some contention. It was the withdrawal date from Afghanistan. And I know that with that brings some veterans not wanting to be involved at this point in the day. But our older members felt it.

imperative that they make sure that there's a commemoration to make sure that our younger generation of veterans don't go through what they did waiting decades for their thanks and I think it's a day that's going to stay and it'll be there when veterans are ready to come and commemorate it in their own time. Will it take a little bit of time do you think to be widely and broadly supported by veterans who served in the Middle East?

We're the first state to take this up. We would like to see it on a national basis. But the memorial's just not for the KIAs we suffered overseas. It's also for the deaths in training. It's also for the countless suicides that our veterans have fallen at the hand of. And it's particularly important this year because the Royal Commission is concluding in October with its final report.

And RSL New South Wales felt compelled to make sure that this happened and make sure that those veterans are thanked and know that they're heard. And we're taking steps to make sure that we can do everything possible to make sure that that service is recognised. I've got mates of mine who served in Afghanistan and they didn't come home the same guys, right? And that's no surprise if you are going over to a theatre of war. However, I've had long conversations with them and they do feel...

at times, and Mick, I want to get your insight on this, that they aren't a part of the broader veteran community. As someone who did tours of Afghanistan and East Timor, have you ever felt like that yourself? Yeah, look, I have, but I joined RSL quite young.

I found the older members to be fantastic mentors because to be really fair and honest, the problems that younger veterans are facing today are not too different from our older Vietnam veterans and they were a big help to me. I still receive fantastic mentorship off those guys within the membership and our membership's growing. We're back to 30,000.

generally there's about a five, maybe a 10-year gap between someone leaving defence and then engaging back into the ex-service organisation community like RSL New South Wales. So the more we get in, the more effect we can have on the ground, the more issues I'll be aware of, which means I can lobby government to ensure that we get the outcomes we need. So engagement is key. Is that...

The period between leaving the ADF and then engaging with the RSL, 10 years, is that because, what, they just want to put it behind them for a period of time? They want to see what the world has to offer? Why the disconnect?

I think, you know, I guess in my own journey transitioning from defence, I struggled with it. I had to really step back from defence for a while and, you know, really understand what it was that I wanted from life. And I realised quite quickly that being...

being in a place like an RSL sub-branch is a good opportunity to meet with like-minded people and they know the issues without you really having to explain it. So if someone's having a down day or they've not been able to be contacted, then someone in the membership has always got their back. So that I think is a real safety net and I think it's a fantastic community to be a part of. Mick, you're a wonderful man. I appreciate you coming on. All the best.

Thanks so much for having me. Cheers. Mick Brainbridge from the New South Wales RSL. He's the president now. 131873. I reckon it's an important day and it's probably taken too long for us to have a day to remember the veterans of the Middle East area.

of operations and July 11, well, you heard from Mick there, it wasn't everybody's cup of tea. It's still, as I said earlier, it is a step in the right direction because I know firsthand we need to make sure as a country we give these guys and girls a big, big hug because they've put a lot on the line for us. 18 to 5. Live on 2GB, have your say. 131 873.

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So he has not been located and officers attached to the Sydney City Police Area Command have been notified and they hold serious concerns for Nawaf's welfare as he is non-verbal and autistic. So he's only 13 years old. He's Middle Eastern appearance, tall, heavy build, short black hair. If you want to check it out, he's wearing a black jacket and green pants. His photograph are on... The photographs are on the New South Wales Police Force's

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from the role. At the end of the coming bushfire season, he's been in the job five years. It doesn't feel like five years, but he's been there. Rob Rogers, the commissioner, for five years now leading the RFS. He's been a member, Commissioner Rogers of the RFS, for 45 years. And he became a volunteer of the Belrose Rural Fire Brigade in 1979. He

He then joined the salaried ranks as Deputy Fire Control Officer for the Greater Taree District in 1995. He was appointed Deputy Commissioner in 2011 and then Commissioner in July 2020 after, of course, Commissioner Shane Fitzsimmons retired. And that was after those terrible 2019-2020 bushfires. And as a Deputy Commissioner, he did a hell of a job during that period.

So Commissioner Rogers, he'll continue in the role until the end of the official bushfire period, which is early next year, and then they will transition to a new leadership. So all the best to Commissioner Rob Rogers for his new endeavour. Australian sons, let us rejoice It's the breach we've been waiting for

Well, Joe's at Hornsby and Joe needs to answer this question. What famous Aussie actor once worked as a rigger on the Harbour Bridge if he wants to go on a bridge climb? Joe, do you know the answer? Yeah, mate. Good old hoax. Paul Hogan. It was Paul Hogan. Good on you, Joe. Well done. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. You know, I must be living under a rock. I doubt it. You are a St George supporter, however. Good call. Hey, Joe, who are you going to take? Have you been on a bridge climb before?

No, mate. No, no, no. I'll take my lovely wife. I've got to do the right thing. Yeah, good on you, Joe. It's great fun. Enjoy it. Make sure you pick a nice day. So that's Joe. He's going on a bridge climb. Thanks to Bridge Climb. And let the school holiday games begin with $150 off a family bridge climb plus a free holiday game room to keep the troops entertained all day. If you want a book, bridgeclimb.com.

Live, local and only on 2GB. It's Drive with Chris O'Keefe. Here's an interesting one. In the city of Sydney, around Glebe, Waterloo and Zetland, there's more than 200 alcohol-restricted zones that could be lifted. And this is a result of a new report. So this is a fairly big change.

And there's a whole bunch of new evidence in a report that the city of Sydney has done to see if the alcohol-free zones work. And there are currently 428 alcohol-prohibited zones in the city of Sydney council area. And they're looking at dropping them to just 238, so basically almost halving them.

So the council report says there's a lack of robust or reliable evidence to show that alcohol restrictions are effective in preventing antisocial behaviour.

So the police didn't provide any evidence on how and when they use these restrictions or whether or not they're enforced. But you can get fines of up to $2,000. And currently, if you're in an alcohol prohibited area, police can seize, tip out or dispose of alcohol in those zones. And if you are intoxicated, there are fines that can be issued up to $2,000.

So Glebe, Waterloo, Ultimo and Zetland in the inner city will have big, big reductions in alcohol-free zones. Now, I think in some cases these alcohol-free zones are fair enough, especially when they're in and around common areas where there are people who sit there, drink all day and then engage in antisocial behaviour.

be it urinating on walls or trees in full view of families and children or people going to work or whatever it is, or they end up getting drunk and having fights in the street. That's what happens. It might be a tough thing to discuss, but that is exactly what happens. And that is the reason that those alcohol restricted zones are placed there by council. So the city of Sydney council without input from the police, uh,

have said, well, there's no robust or reliable evidence that these things actually work. I've seen them work, not in the City of Sydney Council, but I've seen them work in my own council, in the Inner West Council, at the front of the Woolworths there at Balmain, right near the old War Memorial.

It got terrible with people just drinking there all day and engaging in antisocial behaviour. And that stuff doesn't scare me. But when you've got kids, there's schools all around the place, people going to the supermarket trying to buy their goods for the day. It's not a nice thing. And if you put the alcohol-restricted zones there, well, it may well move the problem down the street. I don't know. But it certainly has stopped it occurring there. So I just say to the city of Sydney, that's fine.

probably something that they need to have a really long hard think about Paul's called in from Wetherill Park G'day Paul

How you going, Chris? What's happening, mate? Mate, I just hopped back in my truck and I heard you talking about Hose. You didn't realise there was a rigger on the Harbour Bridge. No, I didn't. Now, as an old bloke, my memory is that he stopped someone jumping off the bridge and Mike Willesey got him on a current affair and...

And he had Mike Wallersey just crying in laughter. And that was Paul Hogan's start to fame. That was his breakthrough moment, was it? Correct. I'll have a look at that. I remember it was in the 70s. I'll have a look at that. Because he did a lot of the Australian ads, didn't he, on top of the Harbour Bridge. There's the famous one where he's on top of the... The view's not bad up here, he says.

They're correct. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've seen photos of him in his overalls up there and he used to be a lifesaver at Granville Public Pool and stuff like that to steal round Aussie bloke. Good on you, Paul. Remember when he used to sell the cigarettes?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, no. Anyhow, have a, you know what? You can't say that anymore, but he used to say, you know, it's long, it's smooth, like you say. Very good advertising back in the day. Hey, Paul, appreciate your call. Thank you so much for that little bit of Aussie history. 131873.

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And I've also got a unique opportunity that I want to share with you to buy an historic regional pub. Forget this. Just $100,000. Reckon you could be a publican for $100,000? I'll explain all soon. First with the news only in Sydney. It's Drive with Chris O'Keefe on 2GB.

Well, I want to cross to Sydney's northwest. So the bodies of a mother and daughter have been found in a home in Marsfield. Now, the woman in her 50s and a girl in her teens are yet to be formally identified, but it is our information that they are mother and daughter. Alex Heineke is at the scene for Nine News. He's on the line. Alex, what have we got?

Yeah, look, a truly tragic set of circumstances this afternoon, Chris. I mean, you're absolutely right. That's what we've heard from police as well. Two bodies discovered, that of a mother and her daughter, a 53-year-old mother and a 13-year-old daughter. Now, at this stage, police can't rule anything in or out. They can't tell us if this is suspicious or not. But speaking to neighbours, Chris, they're absolutely rattled.

by this. They know the people inside that home. They know the family that live there very well. And they tell me that they didn't hear or see anything out of the ordinary. That is up to the discovery of their bodies. When police arrived, firefighters and ambulance as well, making this street, Menzies Road, a crime scene. The scene right now here on Menzies Road in Marshfield, look, plenty of detectives, plenty of forensic crews as well, Chris, coming and going from that property as they try to figure out what exactly happened.

Are they looking for anyone, police, or is it a bit early at this point? It's too early to tell. Usually they tell us if there is any threat to the public, if there is a manhunt on, but they can't tell us one way or another. Really, I guess an odd set of circumstances, but repeating that news, two bodies discovered out of a mother and a daughter, Chris here in Marsfield, the Savo. Alex, appreciate your time.

Cheers, mate. That's Alex Heineke for Nine News. Yeah, a lady in her 50s and a girl, her daughter, in her teens, yet to be formally identified. Clearly, that story's got a bit to run. But given that the police haven't said that they are looking for someone, that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Just at this point, it means that their investigations are continuing. But whether or not anything suspicious has occurred, well, we'll find out soon enough.

If it's happening in Sydney, you'll hear it on Drive on 2GB. Now, I found this one interesting. So Greyhound Racing New South Wales is in a world of hurt. They lost their CEO the other day. There are allegations of animal cruelty, inflating rehoming numbers. There are issues around workplace behaviour, all this sort of stuff. All this sort of stuff. So...

The Minister, David Harris, the Minister for Gaming and Racing, is launching an independent inquiry to examine the complaints about Greyhound Racing's governance, operations, track safety, as well as animal welfare issues. And a lot of this has to do with the fact that

The former chief vet of Greyhound Racing New South Wales, Alex Britton, gave a pretty scathing and concerning exit interview to Human Resources, the contents of which have been leaked. And, well, if you take that as gospel...

The greyhound racing industry has got serious problems. It hasn't cleaned itself up like we were led to believe. Kevin Anderson is the shadow racing minister, former minister for racing in the state of New South Wales, and he's on the line. Kevin, g'day. G'day, Chris. You concerned about this stuff?

Yeah, absolutely. We've been watching over the last 15 months how I think the greyhound racing industry has slipped backwards to a point now where we're seeing the ex-chief vet write a really serious and concerning report with some pretty serious allegations in it. So something has happened over the last 15 months. Is it just 15 months or is it one of those things that has just been occurring under the surface for many, many years? No.

No, I don't think so. I think prior to 2023 when we kept a very close eye on the industry with the Greyhound Welfare Integrity Commission as well as Greyhound Racing New South Wales to ensure that track safety, the animal welfare and integrity was paramount, we set up

significant funding pathways for capital works programs to upgrade tracks, as well as a future fund of $5 million for the next five years to ensure that, you know, those track safety upgrades were made. Looking at Musselbrook, a brand-new track rebuild, Grafton, a brand-new track rebuild as well. I think the industry was on the up and up, but there's just something happened over the last 15 months, and I think that, look, you know, there appeared to be, from where I sit,

There appear to be more suits in the executive of Graham Racing New South Wales than there is in Parliament. You're not necessarily blaming the government here, are you? You were blaming the former CEO, Rob McCauley.

No, what I'm saying is over the last 15 months, something has happened within management and administration of Greyhound Racing New South Wales. They seem to have taken their eye off the ball of participants and mums and dads and those owners and trainers and the grassroots that keep the industry running, you know, from the north to the south. They just appear to have taken their eye off the ball and focused on executives and not the real grassroots which keeps the industry going. Did you have a blue with Rob McCauley the other day?

Well, Rob McCauley and I were at Gunnedah at a race meeting there, and I asked him a couple of questions about why things weren't being done, which is exactly what the inquiry is going to find out and inquire into. And, yeah, look, it was an interesting discussion. What did he say to you?

Look, he didn't give me the answers that I thought should have been forthcoming. I've had a great interest in the industry for a long time. I know where the money was. The money is not there now. And there appears to be some holes in the rehoming program with USA Greyhounders Tets program. I'm not convinced that the numbers that he's talking about are right.

And, you know, tracks and the upgrades like at Taree have stopped. Lyft goes a no-go. Tamworth promised never delivered. And Goulburn as well. And I was asking him these questions. And anyway, he didn't appear to have the answers that I thought he should have. Did he offer any choice words?

No, look, it was a robust discussion and I was seeking answers and I just wasn't getting them. And I seem to think that, you know, given the Capital Works program, there's $18 million in there, the Future Fund again of $5 million for the next five years. Prize money was up prior to 2023. There's a lot of work going on. It just seems to have slipped the last 15 months and he couldn't give me the answers that I thought that he should have. Kevin, before I let you go...

I sort of made the point yesterday that, you know, you were there, I was there when Mike Baird banned greyhound racing and then backflipped on that ban. If we have an inquiry now that uncovers serious animal cruelty and other practices that, you know, aren't up to community standards, there is a risk that the greyhound racing industry loses its social licence and the community isn't willing to give it a second chance. Are you worried about that too?

Look, I'm concerned and I believe that there needs to be that confidence and stability in the industry. I think that it is there. It's just been lost at an executive level. Excuse me, Chris. Lost at an executive level. Across the industry where I keep going to tracks,

There are those that love the industry. The confidence is there. The government needs to provide stability. I think that this inquiry will do that. It will look at some of those management and compliance and reporting processes that I think have not been forthcoming, but the industry is solid. It has got a bright future. I think GWIC...

The Greyhound Warfare Integrity Commission does a good job to ensure that the lifetime tracking of greyhounds is robust. And then once they leave the industry, it goes to the companion animals. Look, I welcome the inquiry, but I've got great confidence in the industry going forward. Kevin Anderson, appreciate you coming on. Thanks so much. Thanks, Chris. Shadow Racing Minister Kevin Anderson, 131873. I just...

If there's stuff in there out of this inquiry that shocks the pants off the community and is intolerable, I just worry where this goes. 131873. Now, when Joe Biden has lost the support of Hollywood, you know he's in trouble, right? Not just any schmuck in Hollywood either. George Clooney, of all people. When George Clooney says, hey, hey, hey, Joe, it's time to go, given he is a long-time donor and supporter of the Democrats...

you know there's trouble. So George Clooney said this, if you missed it, quote, he wrote an opinion piece for the New York Times. The one battle he cannot win, as in Joe Biden, is the fight against time. We are not going to win in November, we being the Democrats. We are not going to win in November with this president. On top of that, we won't win the House and we're going to lose the Senate.

This isn't only my opinion. This is the opinion of every senator and congress member and governor that I've spoken with in private. Every single one, irrespective of what he or she is saying publicly. George Clooney, only a couple of weeks ago, he hosted a $28 million fundraiser for President Biden. Only a couple of weeks ago. $28 million they raised for President Biden's re-election campaign. So for George Clooney to say this...

It is, without doubt, a significant intervention. And when you've got prominent figures like Clooney from the entertainment industry beginning to publicly express doubts, well, it's a shift in public perception, right?

Political support is a fragile commodity and Biden, I reckon he might find his footing increasingly precarious, regardless of how much he tries to stare down his colleagues. If traditional liberal voices like those in Hollywood start to waver, you've got a big, big problem. And let's be serious about Joe Biden. 81 years old to be president of the United States is just too old.

I'm sorry, but you've got war in Ukraine, war in Gaza, a bullish China, an ever-threatening Iran, an unpredictable North Korea, artificial intelligence transforming workplaces and industries, the economics of climate change and the renewable energy and all the rest of it that goes with that. Inflation is still a major issue worldwide. He is 81 years old with clear cognitive decline.

Joe Biden can't manage this stuff. And it's not just a Joe Biden thing or a Democrat thing. It's an age thing. It's just father time is undefeated, right?

Now, as Joe Biden digs his heels in, I think his colleagues are just starting to tell it straight right now. You've got Vermont Senator Peter Welch. He's called on Mr Biden to quit. And he wrote an essay published by The Washington Post. He said that, quote, we have asked President Biden to do so much for so many for so long. It has required unmatched selflessness and courage.

And we need President Biden to put us first, as he has done before. And I urge him to do it now, as in resign. Ultimately, Biden's decision, it's going to be pivotal. It's not going to be pivotal just for himself, but for the future of the United States and the future of the Democrat Party in the United States. And whether he chooses to step aside or forge ahead and be defeated in what will be a catastrophic defeat...

That will shape the narrative of Joe Biden's legacy and it will influence the trajectory of the United States. And this isn't just a decision that will resonate in the US itself or this isn't just a decision for people within Washington, D.C., but this affects the lives of billions of us in the free world. And I think Joe Biden stepping down is only a matter of time. 20 past five.

It's 24 minutes past 4, 5, sorry, and you can have your say on the 2GB open line 131873. You can also have your say for less with Amazim. Don't pay too much for your mobile plan. Break free from your expensive telco and escape to better value with the escape plan by Amazim. Now, I've just received this from Energy Australia because we had a...

a little earlier in the program, in the first hour of the program, that said she received a text message and a whole bunch of you said you received the same thing from Energy Australia saying that the $300 bill

rebate from Treasurer Jim Chalmers and the Prime Minister Anthony Albanese for your energy bills, that $300 rebate will kick in on the 31st of July, this text message has said. If you've got this text, give us a call 131873. There was some concern that it might have been a scam, but it's not a scam. And we asked, just checked with the Treasurer's office, we said, hey, with your energy bill rebate,

Have you pushed it back? Is it not being rolled out on July 1 like you promised? And they said, no, it's all happening. It's all happening. Well, according to Energy Australia, and it says this, Energy Australia today contacted customers. So the text is rigid. It's genuine. Energy Australia today contacted customers to let them know of federal government changes to the timing of the $300 National Energy Bill relief.

Energy Australia today contacted customers to let them know of federal government changes to the timing of the $300 National Energy Bill relief. Well, have they pushed it back or not? They promised us that we would get $300 off our energy bills on July 1. And then we asked and they said, no, no, no, we haven't changed the dates.

Energy Australia are saying that, no, no, no, we need to let our customers know that the federal government have changed the timing of the $300 National Energy Bill relief. Well, we'll follow this up tomorrow because this seems very odd, very, very odd. So somebody is lying to us and I would say that it's not Energy Australia at this point because they've at least given us an on-the-record statement as to why they've sent mass text messages to Energy Australia customers.

So when are we getting our $300 that you promised us? Was it July 1 or is it now being pushed back? Like Energy Australia has said, we'll follow it up with the Treasurer tomorrow. On your marks, set, guess the Olympian. Okay, do you want to win $1,000? Do you want to win $1,000? That is your cue to call 1-300-722-873. You've heard the clues, I've given you two.

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The answer to who the Olympian is that we are chasing you will be a grand richer this afternoon. 131873. Police have just sent us an email too in regards to something that has occurred in Tweed Heads. So there were reports that in Tweed Heads South, there was an altercation whereby somebody was using an axe and using that axe as a weapon.

But police say that they were called to a shopping centre on Mnjimbal Drive at Tweedhead South and they've attended the scene. Several people were involved in the altercation and a man aged 25 was injured.

An axe was not used. There was no axe, we are told. He's been taken to the Gold Coast University Hospital. Weapon seized by police for forensic examination. So a weapon has been used, but it was not an axe. 131873. Ian's called in from Oakville. Have you got this text, Ian?

Yes, good afternoon, Chris. Look, I generally get my energy bill late July and it's due in September. Well, I'm with Origin Energy and I got my bill last week and there is no mention of a rebate in it at all. Nothing at all? Nothing at all. Nothing at all. So I haven't paid the bill and I was very insufficient when I heard your comment. Ian, were you expecting you'd have the $300 off this bill?

Yeah. But it didn't apply to this bill. Okay.

Good on you, Ian. I'm going to chase this up. This doesn't make any sense to me. Somebody's got their wires crossed, and I'm assuming it's the federal government. Whenever they try to roll out a program like this, they often get it wrong. Thank you, Ian. I appreciate your call, and thanks for the information. Now, Alicia's at Glossodia. Hello, Alicia. Hi. How are you doing? I'm good. How are you? Well, do you want to win $1,000? I sure do. All right. You've got to answer this question, Europe.

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Josh Bright in the newsroom. G'day. Good afternoon again, Chris. Members of the public are being asked to help find a teenager who's gone missing in Sydney CBD. Nawaf Al-Anazi was last seen near the Sydney Opera House and there are concerns for his welfare as he has autism and is non-verbal. Police have described the alleged murder of three children in a house fire at Layla Park as a tragedy and one of the worst cases of its kind in the state.

The Gaming and Racing Minister has announced the appointment of a top investigator to lead an inquiry into the state's greyhound racing industry. And a man has been caught trying to smuggle 100 live snakes into China by hiding them in his pants. In sport, the Sharks say halfback Nico Hines has had successful surgery on his broken ankle. He's expected to be sidelined for two months. We'll have more news in sport at six.

Thanks, Josh. Coming up, we'll speak to Scott Haywood, see what he's got on money news and how the markets have been doing. And I'll tell you about this unique opportunity. I reckon it's good value. An historic, beautiful old regional pub can be yours for just $100,000. Sounds cheap, right? It's 25 minutes to six.

A weather update. We'll be here to help in unexpected weather. NRMA Insurance. 14 degrees in the city at the moment and 11 in our west. Temperatures tonight, 9 degrees in the city and 7 in our west. Tomorrow, partly cloudy. Tops of 18 in the city tomorrow and 18 in the west.

Scott Haywood's got money news for you after 7 o'clock tonight. Scott, how are the markets?

Markets were good, Chris. Good afternoon to you. Yes, the Dow Jones, NASDAQ and S&P 500 last night, our time, all rose more than 1%. And that set the scene for our market today, gaining 72 points or 0.9% to 7,889. We are within just about 0.3% for all-time highs. Tech stocks, miners, real estate, investment trusts,

all leading the way. So a very good day for Australian investors. As again, that threat of US cutting rates means money becomes cheaper and the US market is rallying on the back of that. CommBank, Spending Insights. Speaking of interest rate cuts, we're all hanging on it here in Australia, albeit it looks unlikely for 2024, depending on who you ask. But CommBank, their Spending Insights, that gives us a little bit more information.

Yeah, you're right. I don't think there will be any change to the RBA cash rate for the rest of the year. We'll ask the CBA tonight about that. But yes, they released their annual household spending index. And of course, the old favourites, which is utilities, transport, both up more than 5%.

up nearly 10%. Like, what about the cost of insurance that keeps on going up? What's the justification for it, Scott? Oh, look, it's reinsurers are saying that there's more claims. And, you know, in the pandemic, there were a number of claims, both from a death point of view that was a little bit extraordinary and also income protection where people were sick. But fundamentally, I've never known anyone... I'd love to hear from 2GB calls, actually, if anyone's actually found insurance go down year on year. That was up, as I said, nearly 10%. But the interesting thing, Chris, was that...

and I'm going to ask the Commonwealth Bank tonight, is that online travel bookings, fitness clubs, memberships of footy clubs and rugby clubs, and sporting goods stores bumped up recreation to a very high level. Now, this is in June, remember? So, you know, we're starting winter, so you generally put your hands in your pockets and don't go out as much as you do in spring and summer.

But that was a big increase. Also, more people, particularly in Queensland and New South Wales, are hitting the pubs, taverns and bars more than they did a year ago as well. So maybe that's where there's some growth is. Of course, since July 1, we've seen the Stage 3 tax cuts increase the minimum wage and we're going to start getting electricity rebates, which means July could be even a bigger month for spending. And that waves a red flag to the Reserve Bank and the Australian Bureau of Statistics for inflation. Now, Scott, I really like stories out of Vegas. Do you? Are you in any of them?

Don't tell me. Don't tell me we're on air. Tell me on the weekend. Is there something happening in Vegas? There is something happening in Vegas. There's always something happening in Vegas. Well, this is literally...

too good to be true news. Tommy's story dug this up this afternoon. There is a casino called The Mirage, which is in a stack of movies. You'll see it, especially in the 80s and 90s. It's in the background of so many movies. They're going to shut down on the strip in a week's time. So that's next Saturday our time.

Now, due to state laws in Nevada, it has to get rid of money from jackpots before it does. Now, I know you're online looking at flights right now, Chris. That's okay. That's okay. We can both take a week off next week. But progressive jackpots...

are the property of players and gamblers. So the casino, by law, has to get rid of $1.6 million in the next seven days. Now, they're going to give $200,000 in guaranteed winnings for people who play the slot machines each day until the casino closes, and they're going to reward $400,000 on certain days to winners from table game jackpots.

Now, I haven't put my leave in yet with Nine Radio. We don't have to worry about it. If you go over, win 400, come home, doesn't matter. But if you can fill in for Money News next week, because I know Deb Knight's not around. Well, she's probably there. I haven't texted her to see where she is. She's probably there.

She steps at the mirage. What an extraordinary event. Too good to be true. A casino being forced by law to give away money before it closes down. So, yeah, a bit of fun there. We'll talk about that again tonight on Money News. Good on you, Scott. We'll hear from you then. Seven o'clock, Money News with Scott Haywood. Now, here's the other big news today. And it's not...

Look, we know Americans can, on occasion, be quite insufferable, but I think the Poms will be taking the cake. Our English brothers and sisters will be taking the cake over the next little bit because they've managed to win it at their semifinal to make the final of Euro 2024.

They've won 2-1, defeating the Netherlands. This was early this morning, and it was a 90th-minute goal that secured the victory. 2-1, England over the Netherlands. They are in...

The final of the UEFA European Football Championship to play Spain very shortly. And everywhere you hear it, don't you? The English, they just think it's coming home. It's coming, it's coming, football's coming, it's coming, football's coming.

On 2GB Drive, let's duel for fuel. Yes, it is all thanks to Shell V-Power, fuelling your drive home, the duel for fuel. And our contestants this afternoon, we have Leonard at Liverpool. G'day, Leonard. Hey, mate, how are you? I'm well, thanks. Leonard and Marks at Chroma. Mark, g'day.

Hey, Chris. Mark, you ready? You want to start us? Oh, good. Let's do it. Your time starts now. Mona Lisa hangs in what French museum? The Louvre. Correct. George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty were part of which music group? The Beatles. The Travelling Wilburys. The first iPhone was released in which year? 03 or 07? 07. Correct. What's the national flower of Japan?

The Blossom. Correct. Which NRL team won the 2010 Grand Final? Melbourne, Tom. Go the Dragons. Which... I'm sorry, Mark. It's the greatest Grand Final of them all. You won three. That's pretty good. Leonard, you ready? Yes, I'm ready. Your time starts now. Which tennis Grand Slam is played on a clay surface? Wimbledon. The French Open. True or false? Australia has active volcanoes.

True. Correct. What year did Australia last host the Commonwealth Games? 1998. In 2018, which food never expires, pasta or honey? Honey. Correct. Which three primary colours are represented on the American flag? Red, white and blue. Correct. True or false, the Harbour Bridge was built before the Pyrmont Bridge? True. False, Leonard. You need that to win. Leonard, that's a win. Righto, gentlemen, it's a tie.

Your names are your buzzers. Yell out your name if you want to answer this question. You ready? Which country is home to the pyramids of Giza? Leonard. Egypt. Well done, Leonard. Bang. Mark, well played, Leonard. $200 of free petrol coming your way. It is the jewel for fuel. We play it every afternoon here on Drive.

And now, a preview of what's coming up on Wide World of Sports. Pick your favourite Kia from the award-winning Kia Sportage to the street-cred delivering Kia Seltos or Kia's most powerful car ever, the all-electric EV6 GT. Horsies back with Wide World of Sports coming up next. Adam, what's on?

Big show as always, Chris. So the Blues, they were blasted by music and crowd noises today, training to acclimatise them for the decider at Suncorp Stadium. You know, they're a very venomous mob up there. Apparently they tried to get audio from Coggera crowds, but it just didn't move the needle, so they've had to look elsewhere. I need to be careful. John Steeley's in here too. There'd just be traffic from the Princess Highway. LAUGHTER

Oh, man, Joey Johns will come on with all the latest because the Rabbitohs are up against the Dolphins and we've got Origin latest. The Immortals, another Immortal to be added, as you know. It's got to be an eel, right? From the 80s? Yeah. Sterlo? Sterlo, Bert, Brett Kenny, huh? Bert was a good player. There's going to be a list of them. But they've cut it from five years to three years. So normally you had to be retired for five years. That makes me think they want to get Cameron Smith in there. What about Ronnie Coote?

What else does he have to do? There's a whole list, isn't there? Darren Lockyer, Brad Fittler. Glenn Lazarus? Jonathan Thurston. Well, mate, Lazarus won 1,000 comps. Yeah, at different clubs. Could play. Weird unit, but could play.

You said it. So, mate, yeah, we've got all that covered. Plenty of big issues. Nick White from the Wallabies, he'll join us because they're playing Wales in the second test, of course. And Craig Gabriel, he'll give us a recap on Alex Diemen or having to pull out of his match against Novak. I'm no massive rugby union fan. I've had my say on it, but I enjoyed the Wallabies test on Saturday. Gritty. I did. Gritty, and I think they'll get better. Good on you.

That's Hawsey. Adam Hawsey is coming up next with Wide World of Sports. That's it from me this Thursday afternoon. We've got plenty to dig into tomorrow. I promise you I will get to the bottom of this energy bill rebate. The $300 we've been promised from the government. There's a few different versions of events. I'll nail down the proper thing that's happening and I'll bring it to you tomorrow. 131873. I'll see you then. Bye-bye.