2GB Drive with Chris O'Keefe – Full show July 15
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On Sydney's 2GB, this is Drive with Chris O'Keefe. Good afternoon, Sydney. It's a chilly old Monday, isn't it? I hope it's treating you well. Now, our coverage of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump continues. Now, the former president has just spoken. I'll bring his comments to you very shortly, but this is the first time we've heard from Donald Trump properly since he was shot at that rally.

Now, Tony Abbott, the former Prime Minister, as well as former Ambassador Arthur Sinodinos, they're both my special guests this afternoon on what all of this means for both the United States and us here in Australia. Now, a little closer to home, is Chinaman's Beach at Mossman...

Is that racist? Is the name Chinaman's Beach racist? Because some people say it is and are demanding it should be changed. Let me know your thoughts on that. And what about this? A train line from Liverpool and MacArthur area down to the Illawarra. Should a train line like that be revived? Well, the union says yes.

And it's probably not a bad idea, you know. I've got lots to give away too. $1,000 if you can guess the Olympian. Tickets to Featherdale Wildlife Park. A double pass to see the ice skating show with none other than Torval and Dean. And of course, $200 of free fuel right now. 16 degrees at Coogee and 14 at Cobbity.

It's eight and a half past three, 131-873 is our open line number. Of course, you can send me a text if you prefer, 0460-873-873 and email drive at 2GB.com. Now, if you're just getting in the car, the dust is settling on the attempted assassination of former US President Donald Trump.

And former President Trump has just spoken. He's done an interview with the New York Post and his quotes, a classic Donald Trump. So the former president said this, quote, the doctor at the hospital, and just when I'm reading this, just think of Trump saying it in his accent. The doctor at the hospital said he has never seen anything like this. He called it a miracle. I'm not supposed to be here. I'm supposed to be dead.

And Donald Trump went on to talk about the iconic photo we've all seen of his fist in the air and the blood on his face and the big American flag in the background. And President Trump said this, quote, a lot of people say it is the most iconic photo they've ever seen. They're right. And I didn't die. Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture.

He also praised the crowd at the rally, which he puts at 55,000 people, and he praised them for remaining calm. Quote, a lot of places, especially at soccer games, you hear a single shot. Everybody runs. Here, there were many shots and they stayed. I love them. They're such great people. Seems like he's in pretty good form, President Trump. I am glad he's okay. The world is glad he is okay, regardless of your politics.

But how did it come to this? So US politics, it's pretty feral, to be honest. And far too often, we see American politicians playing the man rather than the ball. And the mainstream media, well, it is a basket case in the United States, a basket case. It's tribal, it operates in silos, and it tells their audience what they want to know rather than what they need to know.

Anyway, it's not any surprise that some nut has tried to take things into his own hands. But earlier today, seems a little late for this, but nonetheless, it's come anyway. President Joe Biden addressed the nation. There is no place in America for this kind of violence, for any violence ever. Period. No exceptions. We can't allow this violence to be normalized. You know, the political record in this country has gotten very heated. It's time to cool it down. We all have a responsibility to do that.

Yes, we have deeply felt strong disagreements. The stakes in this election are enormously high. Look, thank God we live in Australia, right? But here's what we know about the shooter. 20 years old, his name was Thomas Matthew Crooks, and he worked as an aide in a nursing home. Look, he was reportedly registered a Republican, Thomas Crooks. But then he also donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project in 2021, and that aims to encourage Democrats to vote.

His former classmates, they've spoken out to various media outlets. They say, look, this guy, he was relentlessly bullied. He was a loner and he wore hunting outfits to school. And get this, Thomas Matthew Crooks was apparently denied entry to his high school's rifle team because he was, quote, a bad shot. So far, no clear motive has come to hand. But given how the Secret Service clearly dropped the ball here,

Can you imagine what security must be like in Wisconsin? Because Donald Trump has landed in the important swing state ahead of the Republican National Convention tomorrow, where he will be formally anointed as a Republican candidate for President of the United States. Nine's US correspondent, Lauren Tamazi, she's in Wisconsin and she joins us live. Lauren, g'day. Hi, Chris. Extraordinary 24 hours. What's it like in Wisconsin now?

You would think that 24 hours on from an attempted assassination of a former president that security here would be even tighter, but reality is the Secret Service says it doesn't need to change anything. It is quite remarkable. Nothing at all.

Look, I mean, security for these things are already really tight. You've got the Republican conventions every four years. There are 50,000 people descending on here. And we're seeing, you know, tons and tons of cops, of Secret Service, of military members who are walking around the street. But today the Secret Service came out and said, no, they've got this covered. And look, I think the really interesting thing for everyone here

at home is, Wisconsin here, it's an open carry state, right? You're allowed to walk around with a gun. Now, in the past 24 hours, none of those rules have changed. You can still walk around with a gun. In fact, the only place you're not allowed to walk around with a gun is right in the actual convention itself. You're not even allowed to take a tennis ball in there, but yet you can get around with a gun. It is truly quite remarkable. I noted there's been some sort of suggestion, well, maybe, just maybe...

What we've seen happen to Donald Trump, given Joe Biden's been vocal, given the Democrats have been vocal about gun reform and firearm reform, there might be some sort of gentleman's agreement moving forward to the November election. That doesn't seem the case, though.

Chris, this is America. You know how it is. I just can't see anything changing moving forward. And you've got, even if Donald Trump and Joe Biden make that gentleman's agreement, you have so many voices who are adding on to the pile here and potential VP candidates for Donald Trump, who we know he will announce that VP this week, who are blaming Joe Biden and the Democrats for this happening to Donald Trump. Now, that just

fuel for fire of already passionate Americans. We know how fiery people can get about politics here. So what happens now is really going to be an interesting turning point. The election was already so high stakes for America. How does this change things? It certainly is such a turning point here. Lauren Tomasi, you're doing a great job. Thank you so much for joining us.

Cheers, Chris. That's Nine's US correspondent, Lauren Tamazi, live from Wisconsin. Of course, the Republican National Convention is being held tomorrow. Trump will be formally named their candidate for president. Later in the program, I'll speak to our former Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, on his reflections as what has occurred in the US over the last 24 hours. Then later in the program, former Australian ambassador to Washington DC, Arthur Sinodinos.

Live, local, on 2GB. It's Drive with Chris O'Keefe. Now, I thought what we saw yesterday with the assassination attempt of former President Trump is symptomatic of a serious societal ailment. And that ailment is the catastrophisation of issues and the loss of reason and sober debate. It's either got to be nothing or everything, zero or 100 kilometres an hour.

And anything in between where the truth generally exists, well, you can't argue that, can you? You can't offer nuance. Now, people often accuse us here at 2GB of being outrage merchants. But you know, I know, that there's more rationality and thoughtfulness that is offered up here on this radio station than what occurs in other parts of our community, let alone what occurs in the United States of America. But let's just look at things a little closer to home.

And I just want to make an argument here. So I went to the Australian Museum on William Street yesterday. Brilliant day out. Brilliant day out. But as we're walking out of the dinosaur exhibit yesterday at the Australian Museum, there's a big exhibit on climate change. Sure, climate change exists. And while its consequences are up for debate, I wasn't offended by the fact that there was a climate change exhibit at the Australian Museum. I didn't care at all.

And it talked about extinction issues and how a warming planet can impact Australia. And all this stuff at the Australian Museum is effectively aimed at sort of kids and school students to inform them. But then I saw this. On the wall of the museum, it says, quote, What can we do?

We need to act now. Over the next few decades, we will find it increasingly hard to live comfortably in our world. Sometimes it can feel like the climate battle is lost. One person can make a difference. Embrace renewable energy. Eat less meat. Drive and fly less. Talk to others and don't invest with banks and funds that support fossil fuels.

We need governments and businesses to move from a fossil fuel economy and invest more in climate-friendly industries and practices. And then it says, join one of the many groups calling for these changes. That's on the wall of the Australian Museum. Now, not only does this offer no nuance...

or talk about the consequences of making decisions like driving and flying less or the practicalities of eating less meat and embracing renewable energy and moving from a fossil fuel economy, none of that is qualified in what's on the wall directed at children and schoolchildren at the Australian Museum. It also doesn't point to the fact that Australia produces just over 1% of global emissions. But this call to action on the wall at the Museum

To join the many groups calling for change, well, next to the spiel has a whole bunch of posters from the school climate strike. And one of those posters says, quote, I'd be in school if the planet was cool. Well, it was a great day out, but the fact is the exhibition was effectively encouraging kids to skip school to fight for the climate crisis. Should a taxpayer-funded museum be promoting kids wagging school?

I wouldn't have thought. Shouldn't a museum be promoting kids to learn as much factual information as possible about global warming and Australia's part in it? Now, we asked the museum for a statement. They told us, quote, the climate change posters are a small part of the exhibition and are not positioned as a solution to climate change. That's not true. I saw it. The posters are part of a display that highlights community concern for the environment.

A free exhibition, Changing Climate, brings together specimens and personal objects that reveal a range of stories around experiences of climate change. Now, you could have fooled me. You know exactly what you're doing, the museum, Australian Museum, and now you see me try to get out of it. But I think that it goes back to just offering a bit of nuance and qualification to argument because nothing is black and white and offering kids as much fact as possible is important.

especially when it comes to global warming and Australia's part in it. Like, what about this? The United Nations principal panel on climate science shows that Australia is seeing a decreasing number of cyclones hitting the east coast of Australia. I thought we were supposed to be swamped by natural disaster. We're having fewer cyclones. We've never had a lower number of cyclones in Australia since 500 or 1500 years ago. So there were more tropical cyclones in Australia when Jesus was alive than there are now.

And we should teach our children that Tuvalu, the Pacific nation, is not disappearing into the sea. The University of Auckland, in a peer-reviewed study, used satellite imagery to measure Tuvalu's land area between 1971 and 2014. Guess what they found? Tuvalu grew in land size by more than 73 hectares, or almost 3%. Again, we should be sober in the way we teach kids about global warming.

We should try and pollute our planet as little as possible. We should use renewables if and when they are cheap and reliable. When they are cheap and reliable to power our homes and industries, use them. So far, they are not. We also need to tell our kids that climate change will not lead to the extinction of human beings.

The pace of human improvement is rapid, it continues to be rapid, and global warming will just make us continue the arc of improvement just that little bit slower than we would have otherwise. Because if us adults teach our kids the world is burning, we can hardly be surprised if they act terrified. Plus, the art of debate and disagreement, we seem to have lost it many, many years ago.

1-3-1-8-7-3. 21 past three. It's 26 past three and a man has been arrested after a body was found in a car park on Sydney's northern beaches. So police are treating the discovery as suspicious, but as you would have heard in the news with Josh Bryant, there's no obvious injury. So it's a bit of a curious one, this one. So...

Officers were called to Illakai Place in Dewy, and this was just after 7 o'clock this morning, because members of the public had called police reporting that a body had been found in an apartment complex car park. So the 40-year-old's body was found. A 37-year-old man was arrested just after midday today at a unit at the complex. Riot squad officers were heard banging down a door too.

So he was wearing a green hoodie, this guy. So neighbours have told the Daily Telegraph this. He was walked to a police car and taken to Manly Police Station and is assisting police with their inquiries. So neighbours say that they saw a black hatchback approaching the property multiple times before 5am this morning and the dead man is yet to be formally identified.

So all very strange given that there is no obvious injuries, yet the police are clearly still treating this as suspicious. 131873. A little sports news in the Gulf. Adam Scott has narrowly missed his first PGA triumph in four years. Look, he tried hard, didn't he?

But unfortunately, Robert McIntyre, home favourite, he's a Scot, he snatched victory at the Scottish Open. He's 44 years old now, our Adam Scott, mind you. And he looked on course to pick up another big win two days before his 44th birthday. And it's a pretty prestigious event, the pre-British Open event. He was two shots clear of

And McIntyre had just three holes to play, but the Scot managed to rope the Queenslander in and win the Scottish Open. Well, it still puts Adam Scott in a good position heading into the British Open, which of course is a major.

S2GP is your home of the Olympics, 11 days to go and we're giving you the chance to win $1,000. So the first clue for this afternoon's grand is this. I compete as B-Boy J Attack, but my name is Jeff Whitey in the fun and games department who writes these questions, he's making it all a little harder, I think.

So your first clue, I compete as B-Boy J-Attack, but my name is Jeff. And B-Boy is B-Boy. J as in the letter J, and attack as in the full word attack. But my name is Jeff. Google it. I'm sure you'll come up with something. I'll give you your second clue in the 4 o'clock hour, and we'll give away the $1,000 after the 5 o'clock news.

In the newsroom, Josh Bryan. Get out. Good afternoon, Chris. Police say they are treating the death of a man at DY as suspicious, but there were no obvious signs of injury. His body was found in a car park. A parliamentary inquiry has found the best interests of the community was not the focus of the Roselle Interchange design and construction...

The assassination attempt on Donald Trump has turned attention to security measures for politicians at home and banks have been ordered to pay back $28 million to low-income earners who have been incorrectly charged higher fees than they should have been. In sport just a day after starring on NRL debut for the Seagulls, halfback Jamie Humphries has signed a two-year deal with the Rabbitohs. He'll join the club next year. We'll have more news in sport at four.

Good on you, Josh. We'll hear from you then. Coming up, Chinaman's Beach near Mossman. You ever been to Chinaman's Beach? Do you know it? Well, people are now saying it's racist. Do you think it's racist? It could be renamed, you know. I'll speak to Roy Bendall. He's a Mossman councillor and he's up and about on this one.

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or a great news story that no one's heard about yet. Drive at 2GB.com and a $100 Mr. Rose's voucher could be yours. Now, 131873, have you ever been or do you live near Chinaman's Beach in Mossman? And do you think its name, Chinaman's Beach, is racist? Call me, 131873, because there are calls to change the name because it apparently has racist connotations.

It's a very small beach, this one, so it's 250 metre stretch of sand in northern Mossman. And a second generation Chinese-Australian wants it renamed. Osmond Chu is his name, and he says Chinaman's Beach is hurtful and derogatory. And he told the Mossman Collective the term Chinaman is primarily used as a racist slur against people of Chinese or East Asian appearance.

Look, we invited Osman Chu on the program today. We didn't hear back. And look, he's entitled to his opinion. No one can really agree on where the original name came from, though. And records from the New South Wales Geographical Names Board show the name was associated with nearby Chinese market gardens, which were run by members of the Chinese community in the 1800s. Some historians disagree, though. They say Chinaman's Beach was named in 1977.

after Chinese anglers who loved nearby fishing spots. But my next guest, Mossman Councillor Roy Bendall, he's got even another theory on the history of the name. He's on the line for us. Councillor, thanks for your time. Thank you very much, Chris. I love your show. Thanks for coming on. So firstly, Chinaman's Beach, where'd the name come from?

Well, my family's been here for five generations, Chris. I remember my grandmother taking me down to that beach and we would collect shells which looked like elongated fingernails. And they're actually...

and we'd call them Chinese fingernails. And the name has been used in this community for over 100 years, and we're pretty sure that that's where it derived from. I've never heard of Chinese market gardens in the area. There would be no reason for a market garden down there. It's a sand dune, the soil's not good, and it's surrounded by an escarpment. So they're not going to get anyone coming down to buy it off. And plus, we had no people there in the 1800s.

Because there was no bridge to the spit. Yeah, sure. So, you know, I think they're trying to justify why it's called Chinese without acknowledging that there's actually a seashell called a Chinese fingernail and they're prevalent on the beach and they're there to this day. So, I mean, kids go collect them all day. I mean, they're wonderful little things. Talk to me about the people who want Chinaman's Beach renamed.

Well, if you look at, you can think everything is racist if you look through the lens of racism. I'm not buying it. I mean, this area is actually very popular with our Chinese community in Mossman. In fact, I've got 12 of them coming down to my house on the weekend for a mayoral launch party. And no one has ever raised...

the issue of it being racist. In fact, they're proud of it. Well, the members I've spoken to in the community. So, you know, it's a bit like when Blacktown, where they had a referendum out there about 20 years ago, should we change the name there because it's racist? And it was the Indigenous community who rejected it.

So, I mean, I think we should embrace these names. I mean, we've got Clifton Gardens and Chowder Bay down on the other side of Mossman, who's named after an American sea captain, and Chowder Bay because he was from New England. Now, they were mocking him at the time, but we're not changing the name, and I don't have much of Americans jumping up and down complaining about it. But, I mean, it just disappoints me. I mean, let's just embrace these things and be proud of it.

Is there any mechanism for Mossman Council or the Geographical Names Board to change the name of the beach? What I'm getting at is how realistic is a name change?

Oh, it could be done. I mean, what we would have to do is poll the whole community and then make an application to the Geographical Names Board for a name change. I mean, if you went in there saying that the community's upset because it's racist, then you'd probably have a better go. But I don't think there's an appetite for it. And there's not even an appetite within our Chinese community for this. So you've only effectively heard one complaint?

Yes. Right. And it's been called Chinaman's Beach for 100 years. Right. It's a beautiful beach, though, if anyone wants to go there. It's a kid's paradise down there. Stunning, stunning, stunning. Free barbecues. It's Mossman. Mossman's very good, and it's a wonderful place to bring children. It's safe. It's a lovely, clean beach. Councillor Bendall, before I let you go...

I think, speaking of Mossman, I remember Balmoral Beach had that Aboriginal land claim on it. I think that request was knocked back from the Crown Lands Department. Is there any update on your end?

Well, it was. Subsequently, once that one was knocked back, we've found out that there's another one beside it, so that one's going to work its way through the court, but there's an active one at the moment. It's called Little Ashton Park and it's right next to Taronga Zoo. So, I mean, we had to actually take the state government to...

run through an administrative court to actually find out where all these claims are. But yes, so there's a current one going right next to Taronga Zoo between the car park and the zoo.

And we're going through this process again of having to prove from when the claim was lodged that this has been in community use. But it's actually very worrying because all these land claims are on Crown lands and our Crown lands are next to our parks or next to our beaches.

So, unfortunately, I think this is going to continue for a while. That's one of the reasons I'm running hard for mayor at the next election, mate, to ensure that we keep fighting those things. Councillor, appreciate you coming on. Always welcome. Thank you very much, Chris. That's Mossman Councillor Roy Bendall. 13 Aboriginal land claims in and around the Mossman area, including Little Ashton Park...

Next door to Taronga Zoo. That'll be worth a pretty penny. 131873. Now back to Chinaman's Beach. What do you make of it? Should we change the name of Chinaman's Beach in Mossman? There's a gentleman who thinks it is terribly offensive. What do you make of it? Do you think it's racist? 0460873873. It's a quarter to four. Now just on our new ferries. So Labor's new Australian-made ferry...

known as the John Nut, well, it's got steering problems. So Lachlan Leeming's reporting this in the Daily Telly, but the steering issues which have played Sydney's ferries have returned, and one of Labor's first, this is the Minns government, Australian-made vessels, it was rushed to a shipyard for urgent investigations because there was an issue steering the ferry during testing. It's a Parramatta River-class vessel,

And they were doing trial runs last Thursday. When it's steering, it listed 20 degrees after it was caught in the wake of another vessel. So it's been rushed to Balmain Shipyard for inspection. Now, a bit of an embarrassment because they carried on a lot, didn't they?

the Minsk government about all these overseas built ferries. They were lemons. They are lemons. But we built this in Tasmania, I think, the John Nutt. And it looks as though it's experiencing steering problems now. And, you know, they complained uphill and down dale, didn't they? The Minsk government about the Liberal government's procurement. Rightly so, too, because we shouldn't be building stuff overseas.

But if we're building them here in Australia, the government's got to be open and honest about the problems that they encounter. 131873. Now, we're looking at a very, very cold few days. Very cold few days. And it's a result of a rare weather event that's growing above Antarctica, which will bring more cold fronts and rainfall to the southern and southeastern parts of Australia in coming days and coming weeks.

So it's a stratospheric warming event, which is beginning to occur by an abrupt increase in air temperature high above the Earth's polar regions, which is in the stratospheric layer, about 40 kilometres above the Earth's surface. So the warming event filters down through the atmosphere and ultimately allows chilly polar air to drift away further from Antarctica and closer to us here in Australia.

Now, if this process occurs, the southern parts and southeastern parts of our country will experience more cold fronts, stronger winds, low pressure systems. I did note that Orange in our central west, I think it's Wednesday, is looking at a top of one degree.

A maximum temperature of one degree in Orange. So it's cold. We're feeling these wintry blasts. So when you're going outside, I even noted today when I just went for a walk to get lunch, that while the sun's out and it says it's 16 degrees on your weather app and on the Bureau of Meteorology, the wind that's ripping through town, you can just feel it, can't you? It is icy and it certainly cuts through any layers that you've got on.

If it's happening in Sydney, you'll hear it on Drive on 2GB. Now, Chinaman's Beach at Mossman, what do you think? Is it racist and should the name change? Daphne has called in from Mossman. Hello, Daphne. Well, hello. I don't think they should change it at all because I think it was named after the Chinese...

seashells that you get there. They're a long, white thin shell and they look like fingernails. I can remember going down there as a kid and we always used to go looking for them. I'm 88 now and it's always been named Chinaman's

and I should think it would be a shame if they were to change it. There's so many places now that have been changed and it's not right. Leave it as it is, please. Daphne, thank you so much for your call. I think you reiterate a lot of people's thoughts. You have a lovely afternoon. Henry has called in from Victoria. G'day, Henry. G'day, Chris. I'm nowhere near Chinaman's Creek. I'm just calling to say that...

If it was called Australian Man's Creek or English Man's Creek, would there be such a fuss kicked up about it? Well, I don't know. Is the word Chinaman racist? I don't know. I'm not Chinese.

No, I'm not either, but I do have a son-in-law who's Chinese and he doesn't seem to think that it's racist. He says, yes, I am Chinese and he doesn't object at all to people calling him a China man. All right, Henry, appreciate your call. Some do, some don't, I suppose. Shane's at Collaroy. Hello, Shane.

Chris, I'm 70 and it's always been called Chinaman's Beach. I can't believe for one minute because of one person saying he wants the name changed. Like, if he doesn't like it, move. Go back to somewhere else. It's absolutely appalling to think that any time is wasted by any one person in the council because one peanut wants the name changed. And it's not racist at all. It's rubbish.

Good on you, Shane. It's more of the same rubbish we get every day. Yeah, and I think that's what people are fed up with, right? It's just constant, and it doesn't stop. But we'll keep calling it out. Scott's in Townsville. Hello, Scott. Yeah, hey. How you going, mate? Good, thank you, Scott. Yeah, I was just thinking of one of the last times I watched cricket. When the spinners come in, they play left-arm Chinaman.

Yeah, left arm wrist spinners. I haven't seen it. We were just asking that just in the news break there, in the ad break there. When's the last time you heard anyone say that on the broadcast? Because it used to be pretty regular, right? So a left arm wrist spinner would be called left arm Chinaman, but I haven't heard it for a while. Yep. Have you? No.

Yeah, oh, I haven't heard it in a while, but you know what I mean, though? That's how it was described. Yeah. All right, good on you, Scott. And I was doing a little bit of reading about that, just why it was called left arm Chinaman. And supposedly it was in relation to an English cricketer who was bowled out by a left arm bowler who was bowling the equivalent of the googly, right?

And it's first known to have been used in print in The Guardian in 1926 in reference to the possibility of Yorkshire bowler George McCauley bowling a googly. And it became more widely used after a test match between England and the West Indies at Old Trafford in 1933 because Ellis A. Chong, as a player of Chinese origin, he bowled slow left orthodox, left arm orthodox spin.

And he had one of the players stumped off an Orthodox delivery and supposedly, as he was walking away, said, fancy being done by a Chinaman. And that's how left-arm Chinaman occurred or came to be part of the cricketing parlance. But as I said, I haven't heard it spoken like that on a cricketing broadcast for a very, very long time. 131873. Final call on this one. Matt's called in from Blacktown. Hello, Matt.

G'day, Chris. How you going? I'm all right, mate. How are you? Good, good. Everyone's whinging about this tournament's beats. What about the name Blacktown? Like, it's the same thing, isn't it? Yeah, well, the councillor said that there was a... ..there was a vote where...

There were some people who believe that the referendum should be held, effectively a type of referendum in the council area, to see whether or not the name should be changed. I think it may have occurred a couple of times in both council and the population. Matt said, no, no, no, we don't want the name changed. It's strange. All right, Matt, good on you. You have a good weekend. And here's a good one. Is a Chinese burn racist? Yeah, well, that's a good question. I don't know. Is it?

Can you say that anymore? Can you say, oh, don't give me a Chinese burn? Maybe you can't. What about Indian giving? I always thought that Indian giving was a normal thing. Can you say that anymore? You know, when you give someone a present and then decide to, or gift, then you've got to take it back. You're an Indian giver. Is that racist now?

Again, maybe it is. I'm not sure. It's hard to keep up with this stuff, isn't it? Six to four. The four o'clock news is coming up very shortly with Josh Bryant. Now, just to finish off this debate, I've just pulled this up. So this was in eight years ago. So 2016. And Blacktown will keep its name after councillors decided against a referendum for a name change. So discussions of a name change began in 2015.

after some councillors suggested it would help modernise the city's image and move away from the name's racial undertones. This is Blacktown we're talking about. So the council settled an amendment to the name following a two-hour debate. But get this, 3,000 residents were surveyed by Blacktown Council via telephone, public forums, online and hard copy. 80% voted no.

to changing the name blacktown 131873 a place mind you where mount druid is i think it's the biggest population of indigenous people anywhere in australia now a man's been arrested following an incident at hunters hill this is on fig tree road at hunters hill police were called there and

and smoke was seen coming from the property. And when police attempted to approach the property, they found a man inside armed with a machete. So that man, 56 years old, has been arrested. Coming up after the four o'clock news, the former Prime Minister of Australia, Tony Abbott, will join me. His reflections on the Donald Trump attempted assassination.

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at 2gb.com plenty coming up this hour former prime minister tony abbott will join me with his reaction to the attempted assassination of donald trump and where to for now where to from now for the united states and what impact will it have on us here in australia

And also, I'll speak to the RTBU because they want the New South Wales Government to finish the Malden to Dombarton rail link. That is, a rail link that goes from the MacArthur area to the Illawarra. It's not a bad idea, you know. First with the news, only in Sydney. It's Drive with Chris O'Keefe on 2GB.

Well, a doctor accused of sexually abusing two patients. Can you believe this is the accusation that Ahmed Al-Sadani sexually abused a sexually touched a 28 year old woman during a medical consultation at a medical center in Arncliffe on June 4th.

And he's accused of raping a 19-year-old woman during a medical consultation at the medical centre at Arncliffe on June 26. Well, he's been granted bail at Sutherland Local Court. Ahmed Al-Sadani, Dr. Al-Sadani.

And he was granted bail after promising to pay $1 million if he breached any of the conditions. So he's agreed to pay a $200,000 deposit to the court towards the sum. He's been barred from acting as a medical practitioner and has handed over his passport to police.

So according to his online profile, Al-Sadani has 17 years of experience in medicine and has been working as a GP in Australia since 2011. And he will be back in the Downing Centre local court September 10. Ahmed Al-Sadani. Heinous allegations. 131873. Now, overnight passenger trains will resume running on the Hunter line from tonight.

Monday the 15th of July, after services were suspended for more than two weeks due to some safety risks related to that ongoing illegal activity. You know, the protest activity? So it's been disrupted by illegal protest activity since the 25th of June with more than 20 separate incidents that have stopped rail traffic. And it's all the, you know, anti-coal people. Police have made 33 arrests, 96 charges have been laid.

So they've deemed it safe enough to run trains again because they've had five nights of no incursions into the rail corridor. So from tonight, overnight passenger trains will resume running on the Hunter line.

Well, there's been a lot said about the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, but the questions in my mind are these. Firstly, the obvious one. How did this bloke, Thomas Matthew Crooks, manage to drag a rifle across a roof just 150 metres away from a former president and then manage to get a few shots away as well? Whichever way you cut it, it is a major failure of the Secret Service.

And here's the other part of this in terms of motivation. It's difficult to expect anything else, although we hope we could. But when the rhetoric in American politics is so violent and deeply personal as it is, surely that is a recipe for disaster. Now, 24 hours on, President Joe Biden, he's addressed the nation and he is demanding calm. There's no place in America for this kind of violence, for any violence ever. Period. No exceptions.

We can allow this violence to be normalized. You know, the political record in this country has gotten very heated. It's time to cool it down. We all have a responsibility to do that. Yes, we have deeply felt strong disagreements.

The stakes in this election are enormously high. But what does this do to American politics? And what does it mean for the last remaining threads of civility in the United States? And how is it going to impact us here in Australia? Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott, he joins me on the line with some of his insights on this. Mr Abbott, thank you for your time. Thank you, Chris. And yes, shocking events over the weekend in the United States. But we have to move on from them.

Were you surprised, like many of us, that there was such a failure of the Secret Service and law enforcement to allow someone to get a shot off while Donald Trump was there campaigning? Well, I think, Chris, you made two very good points. The first is that there does seem to have been a failure by the Secret Service because

It seems that there were people in the crowd warning police and others that there was trouble brewing. They could see this guy on the roof, apparently armed. So, yes, there is some explanation for the Secret Service. But I think the more fundamental point is just the combustible nature of political debate in the United States in particular.

And the problem with debate so often today is that when people disagree, instead of putting it down to a simple difference of opinion, they tend to put it down to some kind of moral failure. So the people you disagree with aren't just wrong, they're bad. And it's not as bad here in Australia, but we're suffering from elements of this moralisation and polarisation of debate that

And yes, it's good that President Biden is now calling for calm. But I've got to say that his side has been just as culpable as the other side when it comes to demonizing their opponents. Now,

At the end of the day, in a democracy, we have to accept the voters' verdict and we have to give the other side at least credit for being sincerely patriotic and wanting the best for the country. We can argue forever about whether their actual policies are good, bad or indifferent, but what we shouldn't do is demonise the individuals, play the man rather than the ball and

pretend that there's no goodwill just because people happen to be on the other side. Is this a new phenomenon in your mind or has this been part and parcel of American politics for quite a while? Look, I don't claim to be the world's biggest and best student of American politics. I think they've always played their politics pretty hard. I don't

1880s, I think it was the Grover Cleveland presidential election. And it was two guys, James G. Blaine and Grover Cleveland. And I think one side said, James, James, James G. Blaine, monumental liar from the state of Maine. And then the other side said, Grover

Grover, mum, mum, where's my pa? Gone to the White House. Ha, ha, ha. So I guess by the standards of the 1880s, that was pretty personal and pretty low. So I suppose there's been a lot of invective of the sort you wouldn't normally expect in an Australian election.

in American elections over the years. But I do think that the polarisation, particularly the demonisation of President Trump, has gone way beyond anything we've ever seen before. I mean, some of the social media posts by Democrats, including the President himself, have been right over the top. And let's hope that...

Everyone now takes the president's advice and they do calm it right down and they do attribute at least goodwill to people on the other side. Do you think that this moralisation, polarisation is born out of the fact that, you know, while they're on different sides of the fence now, there was a civil war at one point and these values were fought over, citizen v citizen? Yeah, but that was about slavery. And you can understand why...

that particular issue aroused incredibly strong passions. On the one hand, there were the, I think, righteous moral passions of the North, and on the other hand, the mercantile and self-interested passions of the South. I don't think there's anything like the same objective seriousness in some of the current debates. I mean,

whether you think climate change is the greatest moral challenge of our time or not, whether you think that January the 6th was a riot or an insurrection, I just don't think these are quite on the same level of those days. And that's why I think it is possible for the temperature to be low. And I think it's possible for people to cool it if they've got sufficient character and

That's the real test. Do the senior people in the United States polity at this time have sufficient character, in the end sufficient magnanimity, to turn the temperature down and treat each other as decent human beings, even if they happen to disagree about politics? What's your assessment on that? Do they?

Well, let's wait and see. I think what happened on the weekend is an incredible wake-up call. I mean, it's a long time since a presidential candidate or a former president has been shot at. Let's hope this is a reminder that...

of just how serious things can get. Let's hope we see, to use Lincoln's immortal words, the better angels of people's natures in the weeks and months ahead. Just before I let you go, Mr Abbott, and I am speaking to the former Prime Minister of Australia, Tony Abbott, there's a book by Stephen March. It's called The Next Civil War, Dispatches from the American Future. Now, this was written in 2022, and his conclusion was the United States...

is heading to a second civil war because it is descending into the kind of sectarian conflict usually found in poor countries with histories of violence. What we've seen over the last 24 hours, is it difficult in your mind then to disagree with him? Well, I do disagree. I don't think America is heading into a civil war. I don't think American politics is at a particularly high ebb at the moment, but...

There's a lot of good in America. And I think that, yet again, what we will see, whether it's immediately or in a little time to come, I think what we will see is that amazing capacity of the United States people to regenerate themselves and to improve themselves.

We've seen it time and time again over the last couple of hundred years, and I'm confident we'll see it again. But I do say this, Chris, we need to see it again because the United States is the indispensable country, the indispensable nation, and the U.S. president, regardless of his or her faults or qualities,

He is the leader of the free world. In a sense, he's our president too. And that's why it's important that that individual be the best possible individual.

As I was watching the events of yesterday, I was very thankful we're here in Australia. Mr Abbott, thank you. It's 23 minutes past four, just off the back of that chat with the former Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, in regards to the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. I'm going to go to Rosemary at Parramatta. Hello, Rosemary. Good afternoon. Chilly afternoon, Chris. It is chilly, isn't it? What's your view on it all?

I think the biggest challenge the general population here in Australia has is we have no understanding of how rabid politics actually is in America. And I don't think even rabid is the right description for it. I was in the States and quite literally just in an area where they were setting up for a Republican rally.

And it just fascinated me. So, you know, I was sitting on the sidewalk cafe just watching it, watching the security police go up onto the roofs and block off... ..check the laneways and block off the laneways and...

And then start patrolling the area to the point where, I mean, I grew up on cattle stations, so not much actually intimidates me. You know, wild bulls and wild horses do not intimidate me. But I actually said to my host, I need to get out of here. That much...

It just didn't feel right. No, and it was the implied violence from what they were protecting. And I don't even know who the candidate was. He was a Republican governor or something. And I was just like, I just needed to get out of there because my host just sort of looked at me and said, where do you want to go? And I said, I actually want to go back to the airport, get on the first flight back to Australia. Yeah.

And it really is that overpowering. You go to a street corner meeting here of a politician and you might get three or four people turn up. But to see people flooding in...

and wearing their banners and pins and carrying flags and so forth, it really is quite overpowering. And it's a bit strange because here in Australia, we don't sort of glorify our politicians or politicians

our political parties, thankfully. You know, they're just people and it's an obligation and a duty to go and vote and engage in the democratic process. But outside of people on the margins, there's no sort of championing of the individual here in Australia like there is in America, nowhere near. He saw our local federal member in Woolies a few weeks back. Mm-hmm.

in the pet food aisle. Yeah. As you do. That wouldn't happen over there. No. And first of all, he's just an ordinary person and I had a question that I wanted to ask him. So I just walked up and introduced myself and we had a two or three minute discussion. And then he took my number and moved on. You would never see a politician in a supermarket in the States. Right.

You just don't see it. Hey, Rosemary, great chat, great call. I've got a double pass for you to go and see Torval and Dean, okay? Oh, thank you very much. I appreciate that. You're very welcome. The skating legends Torval and Dean, they're on their last ever Australian tour, Kudos Bank Arena, June next year. If you want tickets, tickertech.com.au. Lindsay has called in from Eastwood. Hello, Lindsay.

You know, Chris, I was a bit bemused when I heard Biden yesterday or the day before say that this isn't America. And the reality is that, of course, they've assassinated four presidents and had a go at trying to assassinate others as well. And it is part of their culture. It's been like that since 1865 when they...

When Lincoln died, and I just think that they just don't get the fact that it is part of how they do business is killing their presidents, four of them. Indeed. I saw one of the universities from the States put something out, and they reckon that in the history of, you know, since Abraham Lincoln, 15 presidents or presidential candidates have been shot or shot at. Fifteen.

And it just seems to me that they still don't get it. And Michael talked to someone earlier in the day about the gun thing, and she was sort of saying, oh, no, the only answer for people with bad guys with guns is more guns for good people and things like that. I mean, they're a long way from getting it, aren't they, really? They are indeed. But they just don't understand that their culture actually does allow them to kill their leaders, which

which is very unusual in any other country, and particularly in a democracy, of course. Indeed. Supposedly the blue-ribbon democracy the United States is. Lindsay, I really appreciate your call, as always. Thanks, mate. That's Lindsay from Eastwood, 131873. Just on that, so just of the 15, Truman, Roosevelt, Ford, Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, JFK, Bobby Kennedy, Wallace...

Ronald Reagan, 1981. All of these people have been shot. 11 days until Paris 2024. The opening ceremony only 11 days away. Your second clue if you want $1,000.

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Let's check the newsroom with Josh Bryant. G'day. Good afternoon again, Chris. A man has been arrested and taken for assessment in hospital after a standoff and house fire in Sydney's north. Police were called to a property this morning. A 56-year-old man was allegedly armed with a machete. Smoke was later seen coming from the home at Hunter's Hill. A fire was extinguished by firefighters. Premier Chris Minns has condemned the attempted assassination of former US President Donald Trump, saying it's a

and also praising the gun reforms passed by the Howard government here. Overnight passenger trains will resume on the Hunter line tonight after being suspended for more than two weeks due to the ongoing protest activity on the rail corridor and the Princess of Wales has made a rare public appearance while undergoing cancer treatment attending the Wimbledon's men's final with daughter Charlotte. In sport football superstar Lionel Messi's been forced off with an

ankle injury as Argentina won the Copa America final over Colombia 1-0 in extra time. We'll have more news and sport at five. Good on you, Josh. The Malden to Dombarton rail line connecting Port Kembla to the MacArthur region. Do you think it should be built? Well, the rail tram and bus union say yes. And you know what? I tend to agree with them. We'll talk about it next.

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Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Consider the fund's PDS and whether the product is right for you. It's 25 to 5. Now, how many of you remember those plans back in the 1970s to build a rail link between Wollongong and southwest Sydney? So the Illawarra and southwest Sydney. So work started on the Malden to Dombarton freight line back in the 1980s.

But the project was abandoned in 88 with the line half built. Well, now there's a push to start things up again and finish the job. What do you reckon about this? Because I reckon...

It's a pretty good idea, given that southwest Sydney is one of the fastest growing regions anywhere in Australia. I think it makes sense to link that part of the world with the Illawarra via rail, especially given that you've got a freight line mapped out and ready to go. Well, the RTBU is calling this potential project a game changer, and their newly minted secretary, Toby Warnes, is on the line for us. Tony, g'day.

G'day, Chris. Good to be here. Good to have you on, Toby. So let's talk about why the union thinks this is a good idea.

Chris, to us it's a bit of a no-brainer. We've had a decade of multi-billion dollar rail infrastructure spend by the previous government, which is being finished off by the current government. We're in a line here. As of 2019, the cost of the project was estimated to be $805 million. As I heard you just say, they're both...

hugely growing areas and it just makes sense to connect MacArthur to the Port Kembla region. The corridor itself, I'm assuming it's still reserved, right? Is it still gazetted as a rail line? It is, absolutely, Chris. And how much of it has been built already? Or do you have to repurpose it?

No, no. I mean, there's those famous images you see out there on some of the rail YouTube channels where you've already got a half-completed bridge. It would be a matter of just completing that. And as I said before, the rail corridor is still there. It'd be just a matter of laying the tracks, putting up the overhead wiring and getting started.

And it's a hell of a lot more safe than jumping on Appen Road for the people of the MacArthur area and southwest Sydney if they want to get to the beach. Absolutely. And I mean, particularly now, we're in a cost of living crisis. We're in the middle of a climate crisis. The cleanest form of transport in our view is rail transport. It's just, as I said before, it's just a no-brainer. Have you had any luck with the Labor Party, with the men's government?

Yeah, Chris, as we said in our release, we've put in an amendment to the Building Sustainable Communities platform chapter for the upcoming conference. It's a broader motion, but it calls to...

Have another look at disused rail lines all across the state, and that includes this one. So that's received at this stage support in principle. We're going to keep pushing for that to move to full support at the conference. But yeah, we'll be having our discussions within government as well. Would the RTBU and you as the new secretary support potentially a metro train, make it driverless from Appen to Port Kemblau?

I don't know about that, Chris. We've had our differences with Metro. It's one of those things. As I said before, we've seen multi-billion dollar expenditure on shiny new Metro trains. This was completed, as you said, in the late 1980s. So I think it just makes sense to make it into an extension of our existing heavy rail line.

Well, it could be a project that the Minsk government may well adopt because they're not building anything else. They're just finishing everything else that the former coalition government started. So this could be actually one of their ideas, right?

That's absolutely right, Chris. And that's what we're trying to get at with this exploring rail options for regional New South Wales. We think that the Labor government can put its foot forward here and really sort of put its name to developing regional New South Wales through building sort of efficient transport links.

Well, good luck with it. I'll see how you go with the Transport Minister, Joe Halen, and the Premier, Chris Minns. But, Toby, all the best with the new gig.

Thanks, Chris. That's Toby Warnes. He'll do a good job too. He's the new secretary of the RTBU here in New South Wales, taking over from Alex Classen. I'm sure we'll have him on the program when they have their inevitable fights over wages and conditions and their inevitable go-slows and strikes and overtime bans and everything else that goes with causing the New South Wales train system and Sydney trains problems.

plunging into chaos, but he's an extremely intelligent young man, Toby Warnes, and I think he'll do a good job for the members of the RTB here. If I could talk to the animals, just imagine it, chatting with a chimping chimpanzee. Imagine talking to a tiger, chatting with a cheetah. What a neat achievement it would be if we could talk...

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And here we are, the appearance of Her Royal Highness. Yeah, she sat in the royal box at Centre Court alongside her daughter, Princess Charlotte, and her sister, Pippa Matthews. And they watched Alcaraz take on Djokovic Sunday local time. So only a second public appearance, Catherine, the Princess of Wales, since announcing that cancer diagnosis. And she presented Alcaraz the Champions Trophy...

And it was deja vu because they both met a year prior in almost identical circumstances. The princess presented him with the winner's trophy for defeating Djokovic in 2023 too. So well done to the princess of Wales, Kate Middleton.

or Catherine, the Princess of Wales, I should say. It looks like at least she is getting the treatment that she needs, and it was great to see the reception she received in Wimbledon after being out of the public eye for so long. 131873. Now, if you live in and around the Inner West or you drive through the Roselle Interchange...

You'll be interested to hear this. The traffic chaos and congestion that erupted in our inner west after the opening in December of the Roselle interchange was unreasonable, unacceptable, and the interchange was designed and built to fatten the pig for sale, effectively, to ensure that the West Connects got a better sale price to Transurban.

And the report has been handed down after a months-long inquiry by the Upper House of New South Wales. And the committee's chair, Greens MP Kate Furman, said that... ..and increased road safety risks...

And there's 17 recommendations, including calls for Transport for New South Wales to review a number of design elements at the junction, as well as change the way it models traffic. And it wants to look at rat running on local roads as an immediate priority. I think it's settled down a little bit, hasn't it? It's certainly nowhere near as bad as it was when it opened in December of last year.

Chris Min said the most disturbing part of the report was that the previous government had been aware that there would be serious disruptions to the inner west, but did not consult widely nor consider them in the design. So it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. But ultimately, I think that ship sailed. The roads opened. They can just sort of muck around at the edges and manage the traffic the best they can.

The inside word on everything Sydney. It's Drive with Chris O'Keefe on 2GB. Now just on a rail line from MacArthur to the Illawarra, the Malden to Dombarton rail line. Started building in the 1980s. Building of it ceased in 1988. Now the RTBU wants the men's government to finish it. Colin's called in from Sinclair. Hello, Colin.

From St. Clair, mate. Oh, St. Clair. Hello, Colin. How are you? How you doing, mate? Yeah, mate, I actually worked on that line. I was a ballast gang on the railways. We used to lay all the ballasts out. Now, they were building up from Uniondale up through Dumbarton all the way through Robinson to Mostow and coming out near Picton. Everyone who goes towards Picton, you'll certainly let the inside, a big gorge and a big railway line going across and it was half-built.

I think Nick Greiner actually closed the job down when he got in the parliament, in the office, and they were halfway through building a tunnel through for the trains to go through. And then everything just got stopped. If you have a look on the YouTube channels, there's a whole bunch of, I wouldn't say kids, but younger people, that go looking at the disused rail lines and abandoned rail tunnels and the like and say,

Colin, this is one of the ones that features pretty heavily. What was it like to work on? It was pretty good. It was going on really well. And the idea of it was to bring the coal trains, instead of going all the way up through metropolitan railway lines and in through Enfield and back out again, was to send them straight across through that line straight to Port Kemla. Because it was a freight line, wasn't it? Yeah, that's the whole idea of doing it in the first place. But...

It's not too hard to bring trains down from Campbelltown and turn left onto this line and go down through that way if they build it. I don't understand why they closed. If they had built it way back then when I was on the rail, it would have been a great line to have finished because it took a few hours off, a lot of hours off coal trains running on the Metropolitan Line. Would you support it being rehabilitated? No.

Oh, hell yeah, yeah, 100%. It was a great line. It was going to make a lot of difference to rail carriages and too many goods trains on the main lines. It was going to take a lot of goods trains off that line, which was going to make a lot of big difference, you know? Good on you, Colin. They should have... No worries, mate. Have a good afternoon. Richard's at Malabar. Hello, Richard. Hi, Chris. What do you think of it?

Great. And the reason I text was because my late mate who passed away last year, Bob Spanswick, was a great supporter of this. And the reason was for two reasons. As the gentleman said, 1988 was the Grider government stopped it. And there was also... And three things would happen. It would unleash all the freight on the metropolitan line. If you go to Hurstville, you'll see train... Suburban trains are held up

because commercial freight and freight lines are caught on the tracks. Unleash that. That's the first thing. The second thing is when we build a...

a submarine pen for the nuclear submarines, it has to be on the eastern seaboard. Port Kembla is at one of those in the scope because it's so deep. Well, if you're going to have that there with all the infrastructure and all the steel and everything, the university and everything, you want a freight line to take out heavy rail because if you've got cruise missiles, you want to...

store them inland away from the coast and everything. But isn't this, haven't we got the inland rail that's going to solve many of these problems? I know that they've got some sort of practical issues with it, but wasn't this Barnaby's brainchild as to the reason why we're building it?

No, because the inland rail is from Melbourne inland right up to Tamworth coming into Brisbane. This would open up the coast and Port Kembla to the Great Southern Road, which means farmers would be able to cut the freight for farmers exporting out of the Riverina, out of the Central West and all that area, as well as provide new jobs. And it would mean you'd have to provide steel out of Wyala. It's a no-brainer.

Absolute no-brainer. Good on you, Richard. Well, hopefully the men's government listen. 131873 now. David is at Springwood. Hello, David. Hey, Chris. How are you going? I'm all right, David. Hey, what animal's this? What have you got for me, David? Mate, that's got to be a seal, surely. It is, David. It is a seal. Hey, a family passed a Featherdale Wildlife Park coming your way. You got kids?

Perfect year, mate. We've got a 15-month-old, so he's absolutely going to love it. And I'm sure the nieces and nephews can all fight over the remaining spots. Good on you, David. Hey, family pass coming your way. And if you want to go to Featherdale Wildlife Park this school holidays, they've got their free wildlife adventure trail for kids all July. Check out featherdale.com.au. David from Springwood.com.

He's on his way now. Did anyone catch the Euro this morning? You know, the final of the Euro, Spain v England. Weren't the English just so very upset? 2-1 it ended up. The UEFA Euro, the Spanish taking it out. It looked like it was one all for a bit and you thought, oh, the Poms might finally win a major one. But no, unfortunately to our English friends, it ain't coming home. This car was coming, was coming.

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shut them down and they're working with an external provider to address the operational issues. And this isn't just Star in Sydney. You've got Treasury Brisbane, the Star Gold Coast and the Star Sydney.

all having their poker machines non-operational. You can still go and play table games and visit the bars and the restaurants and all the rest of the entertainment. But pokies are off limits at the Star Casino. Coming up, I'll speak to Arthur Sinodinos, former Australian ambassador, about the Trump situation, and I'll dive into the issues with the CFMEU.

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Drive with Chris O'Keefe on 2GB. But first, gee, the CFMEU's in a bit of trouble, isn't it? Unsurprising, because for anyone who's had even the most fleeting of interactions with the building game, you cannot possibly be surprised that the CFMEU is embroiled in allegations of corruption and criminality.

Now, the fact that you've got Labor members of Parliament as well as the ACTU claiming to be shocked, it's laughable because the depth of the problems, they might be worse than what some thought, but everybody, and I mean everybody, knows that the CFMEU has problems galore. Sally McManus, the boss of the ACTU today, she tried to sound surprised.

There have been serious allegations made about parts of the CFMEU over the last couple of days. I want to make this very clear. There's no place, no place whatsoever for criminal activity in unions. As a union movement, we completely oppose this. We will resist it and we will stand up against it. LAUGHTER

It's laughable how farcical that comment is. We will resist it and we will stand up against it, according to Sally McManus from the ACTU. Sally, you've been in the unions for 20 years. So what happens now? The Victorian branch of the CFMEU has been placed into administration.

So you've got the National Secretary, Zach Smith, saying he'll use new powers to install a leading lawyer to oversee an independent investigation to probe allegations of wrongdoing. So the sum total of this is the CFMEU will investigate itself, a leading lawyer or not,

The CFMEU's paying the bills. You know which way that'll go. That'll get to the bottom of things, I'm sure. Now, all of this, all of this is why the Australian Building and Construction Commission was established and it is why it is still necessary.

Now, the ABCC had a 91% success rate when taking cases to the federal and other courts. 91% success rate. Yet, the Albanese government shut it down and gleefully shut it down. Let me just run you through a few examples of why everybody acting shocked today is embarrassing.

In 2022, the ABCC prosecuted a union official over allegations that he threatened and verbally abused the managers of a Woolworths distribution centre. And he said, get effed, you see. This is a small industry. I can make your life hard.

There's one in Queensland where CFMEU officials aggressively confronted a building senior supervisor. They blocked a truck, refused requests to leave the area and called workers who weren't union members filthy dogs and effing scabs.

There was a $840,000 fine for the CFMEU threatening unlawful strikes at Brisbane construction sites. Almost a million bucks. Oh, but very surprised Sally McManus, the ACTU, and of course, members of the Labor government. Very surprised the CFMEU could be facing such allegations as we saw in 60 Minutes and the Sydney Morning Herald.

In Victoria, the CFMEU filed for 400 entry notices, 400 across nine projects worked by one Melbourne builder in four months. So they wanted access to building sites 400 times across nine projects in four months. In WA, union members allegedly yelled scab and dog and you'll end up dead if you keep going like this. And they yelled that at workers who crossed a picket line.

Allegedly, the union's Queensland boss, he went to jail for two years in 2019 for receiving $161,000 in home renovations from a developer. His name was Dave Hanna. The CFMEU unlawfully entered an apartment site on the Gold Coast and physically blocked concrete trucks while calling a female safety advisor an effing dog C and barking like a dog at her.

You had four senior New South Wales officials fined a near record $1.2 million by the federal court for coercing botany cranes into signing a union agreement. You know what they said? Quote, just agree with everything in the EBA. Let's move on. You don't want your blokes off site, equipment damaged, cranes wrecked, when in the end it's going to be our way. Look, I could go on and on and on. I could.

But that was all the stuff that the ABCC successfully, in most cases, prosecuted in courts. Yet Sally McManus and the Labor government stand there with a straight face and try to tell us they're shocked at reports that the CFMEU is embroiled in allegations of corruption and criminality. Pull the other one. They are complicit, these people, in shutting down the Australian Building and Construction Commission.

Tony Burke said it was the commission, not the union, that was the problem, remember? He said that it was established by the former coalition government to, quote, discredit and dismantle unions and undermine the pay conditions and job security of workers. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, it wasn't, Minister Burke.

It was to, at the very least, slow down the very worst elements of the CFMEU, a union you seem to have no interest in questioning the conduct of. None. There should be an immediate referral of some of these allegations, where the jurisdiction is appropriate, to the new national ICAC. And in some instances, the police.

Even then, I wouldn't be holding my breath that any of this stuff will stop any time soon because forgive me if I don't take the indignation from union's Labor Party comrades seriously when they've stood by, watched it, knowingly, for years and years and years. The breaking news you can trust. It's Drive with Chris O'Keefe on 2GB.

Well, returning to our top story today, Donald Trump has broken his silence and he's done a series of newspaper interviews about the weekend's assassination attempt. So Donald Trump has spoken with the New York Times and Trump called the attack, quote, surreal. He said this, the doctor at the hospital, it was the New York Post, sorry, the doctor at the hospital said he never saw anything like this. He called it a miracle. I'm not supposed to be here. I'm supposed to be dead.

He went on to talk about that iconic photo too that we've all seen, his fist in the air, the blood on his face, the United States flag behind him. And he said about this, about the photo, Donald Trump. A lot of people say it's the most iconic photo they've ever seen. They're right. And I didn't die. Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture.

He also praised the crowd at the rally, Donald Trump, which he puts at 55,000 people, and he praised them for remaining calm. Quote, a lot of places, especially at soccer games, you hear a single shot, everybody runs. Here, there were many shots, and they stayed. I love them. They're such great people. It's good form, President Trump. I'm glad he's OK, but earlier today, President Joe Biden, he just called for calm. There's no place in America for this kind of violence anymore.

for any violence ever. Period. No exceptions. We can allow this violence to be normalized. You know, the political record in this country has gotten very heated. It's time to cool it down. We all have a responsibility to do that. Yes, we have deeply felt strong disagreements. The stakes in this election are enormously high.

They are, but President Biden, he's not without fault. In fact, earlier I spoke with our former Prime Minister Tony Abbott and he pointed his finger at the Democrats for their role in riling up American voters. The problem with debate so often today is that when people disagree, instead of putting it down to a simple difference of opinion, they tend to put it down to some kind of moral failure.

So the people you disagree with aren't just wrong, they're bad. And it's not as bad here in Australia, but we're suffering from elements of this moralisation and polarisation of debate. And yes, it's good that President Biden is now calling for calm, but I've got to say that his side has been just as culpable as the other side when it comes to demonising their opponents.

Well, someone that dealt with President Donald Trump as well as President Biden very closely was Australia's former ambassador to the United States, Arthur Sinodinos. And I'm pleased to say he's on the line. Mr. Sinodinos, thanks for your time. Hey, Chris. Good to be with you. What was your reaction to what happened 24 hours ago? Um...

I was shocked. I was saddened. I was depressed by it because it's one of the things we've been fearing with this campaign, with the level of rhetoric that's been going on and how polarising the situation has been in the US.

In fact, on one level, I was surprised nothing like this had happened before because just the amount of talk, the amount that each side is seeking to demonize, dehumanize the other, just the levels of violence in the words alone.

has been sort of, you know, I think at an elevated level in this campaign. I thought the last campaign in 2020 was a pretty tough campaign, but this one's continuing to, you know, surpass it, be tougher and with more twists and turns. You were there. Yeah.

during the 2020 election campaign, how do you rate this one up against what you saw last time? And what struck you when you were witnessing that firsthand as to the difference between American politics and what we have here in Australia?

Well, look, if the Godfather Part 2 was a better picture than the Godfather Part 1, then I think we can say this election is an even tougher, more divisive election than the one I witnessed in 2020, which was done under, you know, the umbrella of COVID and all the other stuff that was going on. So it's already produced more twists and turns than I expected. Yeah.

But in terms of where this is sort of all going, I think it's too early to tell the electoral impact. It'll certainly produce the iconic photographs that you've seen, and that will be playing to Donald Trump's campaign. But the thing we've got to watch for here is how do particularly independent voters react to all of this?

And they're still there. They're not a big group, but they're still there. How this motivates people to come out to either vote for Trump or against Trump, what impact it has on President Biden's calculations about whether he stays in the race. To some extent, this has taken that issue off the front page, obviously. So it's literally like a ricocheting bullet trying to work out where this thing will land.

So for the people that say, oh, well, that's it, Trump's won the election, do you think that that's premature? Well, I think it's premature because we've still got months to go. We don't know what President Biden's going to do and we don't know what issues might unfold going forward. And in previous elections, we've often had what's called an October surprise, which is something that happens at the last minute. Like in 2016, the FBI came out about...

Hillary Clinton's private emails, right? They resurrected the issue right at the end of the campaign. So you get these things that come out of the blue. So anyone who says they know where this is going, well, you know, they could turn out to be right. But in my experience, as I saw in 2020, we had a whole series of events happen that by themselves, they're what you call black swan events, right? They're things that you don't expect to happen, but we had three or four of them in a row. So

Don't count this one out until election day. I was hoping actually out of this, the two leaders might come out and say, look, not only do we have to reduce the level of violence in the language that's being used, let's focus on policy and issues rather than people. Let's also do something about the gun violence. But already you're seeing...

Chris, people retreating to, you know, these are the surrogates, to their normal positions of how do we use this to attack the other side? Didn't take long, did it? No, but that goes to your point at the beginning about the polarisation in the US versus Australia, right? I mean, in Australia, frankly, with compulsory voting, preferential voting, independent electoral commissions, the fact that we don't politicise every layer of the courts,

I think gives us more of a capacity to hew towards a broad center, right? A broad center as opposed to what happens in the U.S. where you have to motivate people to come out and vote for you. You have to make them angry in your favor or against your opponent. And that means you've got to push people's buttons. And that can lead in all sorts of directions. Yeah.

I had your former colleague and the former Prime Minister Tony Abbott on the program a little earlier, and Mr Abbott made the point in America at the moment, it feels like just because you disagree with someone, then you've just got to make a moral judgment that that person is a bad person. Was that your experience in America, or is that just what we're seeing on the television? No, no, no. What's happened in America the last few years is that families...

can't sit down and have lunch or dinner together because they often come to blows over who they support or don't support, right? So it goes to my point before, the language that's been used to describe the other side is to essentially delegitimize them, dehumanize them, right? Whereas what needs to be done now, I'm saying, is these leaders have got to say, we've got to work on some issues together. Let's start on gun reform. Yes, let's have an election. Let's talk about the issues. But let's have some ground rules.

about how we engage. I'm not optimistic about that, are you? No, no, I'm not. But Chris, sometimes when things look like they're going in one direction, it's very linear. Something will happen that potentially puts it off in another direction. You just don't know. Arthur Sinodinos, I really appreciate you coming on and I'll leave you with this. What did Russell Crowe once say when he won an Oscar? God bless America, but thank Christ for Australia.

Indeed, mate. I'll second that. Thanks, mate. Good on you. That's Arthur Sinodinos, former Australian ambassador to Washington, D.C. 131873, of course. This story has got a long, long way to run, so we'll keep you updated with all the developments as they come in. It's coming up to 28 past five. You just heard there with Mark Ferguson speaking about the North Shore kid who's become a baseball millionaire. His name's Travis Bazzana.

And he is poised to earn roughly $15.6 million because he's just earned himself the number one pick in the major league baseball draft in the States. So the Cleveland guardians, the Cleveland guardians have taken the 21 year old Travis Bazzana. He moved to the U S to play college baseball for Oregon state. He's from, I went to school at Tarahumara high. I think, uh,

He's a former cricket player, rugby player. Played soccer too. And he's hit 28 home runs...

And 66 RBIs this college season. And he's the first Australian ever to be taken in the first round of the draft, let alone the first pick. Travis Buzana, 21 years old, Taramurra High, now with $15.6 million as the top pick in the Major League Baseball draft. Hopefully he goes on to massive things over in Major League Baseball. 131873. Nick's called in from the Gold Coast. He wants to talk about the CFMEU. G'day, Nick.

Yeah, g'day, mate. How are you? I'm well, thanks. That's the way, yeah. So the point I'd like to make is that we all know unions throughout history worldwide have had a reputation of being corrupt. There's very little we can do about it. But the thing is, with regard to them donating to the Labour Party, what surprises me is that we're allowing donations from anyone to politicians or any other public servant

when that in itself tempts corruption? And, you know, if a referendum were to come around, would the people say yes to politicians taking donations? Well, the question would be, what's the alternative? So it'd have to be publicly funding elections. See, we'd have to spend, I don't know, $10, $20, $30, $40, $100 million a year of taxpayer money...

and give that money to political parties to run their campaigns. That's the only alternative. No, because there is another alternative, and that is the media are always there wanting to have interviews with politicians, so we don't actually have to pay for the advertising. They will just do it for free.

Yeah, but how do they run the campaign then? You've got phones, you've got all the people that you need, you've got all the merchandise that you need, setting up all the signs all around the different parts of the suburbs. These things aren't cheap. No, because I ran for Queensland in 2020 and I had to fund all that myself. Yeah, so what are you saying?

I'm saying they will figure it out. So each individual person who's running for a spot as a politician, they have to fund that campaign. Okay, so how do you propose they fund it? With their own money, like I was asked to. Okay, but what's their own money, their parliamentary wage? No, no, no, because I wasn't elected. I was just running for the first time. So were you working at the time?

Yeah, I was working. So I ran in the Corumban by-election in 2020. And yeah, I didn't get any money given to me for any funding of my campaign. What do you do professionally?

Professionally, so at the time I was driving trucks. Okay, so the truck company, right, pay your wage, you use that wage to fund an election campaign, can be seen as you favouring the truck company because they're paying effectively for the political campaign. You see my point?

I see your point, but the thing is that could be applied to anyone. For example, I'm just making this up, but say my brother works for the construction industry, does that mean I'm going to favour the construction industry once I'm elected? ICAC would say yes in some instances.

Probably, yeah, I would say so too. And I worked in construction for years worldwide and there's a lot of corruption in the construction industry with regard to tenders and all this sort of thing. And we all know that that does happen. But by, well, firstly, stopping tax...

donations being tax deductible would be a nice first start. But also stopping donations to public servants, I think, would be another good start because it just, it tempts corruption. I don't know if it's happening, but it certainly tempts it. Understood. Good on you, Nick. I appreciate your call. 131873. I think there's some sympathy with that view for sure, but I think the only...

possible alternative to the system we have at the moment is publicly funded elections and whether or not the voters would be happy with taxpayer money being spent on the electoral and democratic process. I'm not so sure.

In the newsroom, Josh Bryant. G'day. Good afternoon, Chris. Police say they are treating the death of a man at DY as suspicious, but there were no obvious signs of injury. A man is assisting with inquiries. A parliamentary inquiry has concluded the interests of the community weren't the top priority in the design of the Roselle interchange.

A man has been flown to hospital after being bitten by a sea snake in the Northern Territory. And Shannon Doherty, best known for roles in TV shows Beverly Hills 90210 and Charmed, has died after her years-long battle with cancer. In sport, the Australian Boomers are in Abu Dhabi for practice games against the USA in Serbia before they fly to Paris for the Olympics. Early tomorrow, they'll face American NBA stars LeBron James, Steph Curry and Joel Embiid. We'll have more news in sport at six. Thanks, Josh.

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All right, that's your cue to call. Do you want to win $1,000? Can you guess the Olympian? I gave you the cute clues a little earlier in the show.

So if you think you know the answer, call me now. 1-300-722-873. 1-300-722-873 is the competition line number. One more time. 1-300-722-873. Who is the Olympian? You've had two clues and there's a thousand bucks if you can get it right.

A finance update. Experience the magic at Masterton Homes Warwick Farm Display Village. Open every day, 9am to 5pm. With two brand new Masterton designs on display. Well, checking finance, Scott Haywood's got money news for you tonight after 7 o'clock. Scott, how'd the markets go today? Well, you're calling for gold medal approaches. I can see what our share market hit a gold medal target today. It cleared for the first time the 8,000 point mark and stayed above it.

up 0.7% or 58 points to 8,017, led by a very strong lead from US markets. Every sector finishing the green. So if you're looking at your superannuation online, if you're in a high-growth fund with exposure to Australian shares, I think you'll be very happy with the performance this financial year, just 15 days in. So again, a very good day, despite the fact that there was some mixed news around a few financial stocks today.

Origin 3, State of Origin 3 Wednesday. You reckon fans are splashing out, eh? Are they splashing out? This is an absolute nation's economy money for jam. ING research showed that a total of $2.4 billion has been spent watching the State of Origin games in the last two years. Now, of course, the big game is on Wednesday night. $2.4 billion?

2.4 billion. 2.4 billion. That's a B, not an M. B. And, you know, so, you know, many people are wanting to focus on a party rather than a game. In New South Wales, people were splurging out more than $900 million on the game compared to in Queensland, a total spend of only $310 million. People are having...

at home, they're ordering takeaway, they're buying drinks, they're having everything except going to the venue because it's so expensive to see the game live. The latest average from ING says that if you go to the game live, including transport, parking, having a couple of beers and dining, it could cost $395 per person. So it's the economy that's growing around the fact...

that people are doing it at home. And I think that's still linked to the pandemic where we watched so much TV and we were all hibernated so much in terms of what we did and didn't do. But yes, of course, the third match is this Wednesday night. And of course, 2GB will be not only talking about the physical battles, but on Money News tonight, I'll talk about the financial battles that will continue across the nation. Look forward to it. Good on you, Scott. Scott Hayward with Money News after seven o'clock, 131873. Now, Vicky's called in from Bosley Park.

Vicky, how are you? How are you doing? Good, thanks. How are you? I'm good, thank you. So you've got to tell me something. You've got to tell me who this Olympian is. I compete as B-Boy Jay Attack, but my name is Jeff. I'll be one of the youngest Australian Olympians in Paris at age 16, and my sport is making its debut at the Games. Who am I? Right, he's Jeff Dunn, and he's doing breakdancing, of all things. Did you have to Google that, Vicky?

I was going to say, you're doing well if you've heard of B-Boy Jay Attack, but Jeff Dunn has just won you, Vicky, $1,000. Well done. Oh, fantastic. Thank you. No, you're very welcome. You have a good afternoon. And make sure you enjoy the Paris Olympic Games live and free on Channel 9. And, of course, we'll be broadcasting it right here on Sydney's 2GB.

The breaking news you can trust. It's Drive with Chris O'Keefe on 2GB. Well, it's official. The King and the Queen are coming down under. So Buckingham Palace has confirmed King Charles III and Queen Camilla are travelling to Australia this October. It'll be pretty short, the trip. And since King Charles, of course, he's recovering from his cancer treatment and...

It's the first time that we've seen a reigning monarch visit Australia since the late Queen Elizabeth II back in 2011. So it's been quite a while. King Charles has made 15 official trips here over his time. And most recently, he opened the Commonwealth Games on the Gold Coast in 2018. Now, Charles and Camilla, they'll probably only come to both Canberra and Sydney in October.

But they are coming to Sydney, and it's always good. So 131873, what are some of the hidden gems King Charles III and Queen Camilla should visit when they're here in Sydney? We know all the highlights, the bridge, the opera house, but they've seen all that. So over to you, 131873, off the beaten track, what should we tell the king to come and check out on his visit to Sydney? Now, I was thinking about this. I reckon the best pie ever, ever in the history of pies is Oatly Pies.

It's on Oatley Avenue, just opposite the Memorial Gardens there near the train station, Oatley Pies. And the chunky beef is a must-do for the king. And while we're talking food, he can go down on Elizabeth Drive at Mount Pritchard. There's a mob called Two Foodies. It's right next to the Speedway service station on Elizabeth Drive at Mount Pritchard. It is the best bowl of Vietnamese pho you will ever eat.

They seem like pretty knockabout people. King Charles and Queen Camilla? What about a chunky beef pie at Oatly Pies or a bowl of pho next to the servo on Elizabeth Drive at Mount Pritchard? You tell me, 131873, what are the hidden gems that the King and Queen should check out when they visit Sydney in October? 131873. Say a gracious thing. Live on knowing. Don't say.

Where should the King and Queen visit here in Sydney when they pop into the Harbour City in October? Jeannie's in Yagoona. Hello, Jeannie. Hi, how are you? I'm good, thank you. Where should they go? Harry's Capital Wheels. Where else could you go in Sydney? It's perfect. All the famous people go there. Frank Sinatra visited there, didn't he?

Yeah, I think they've all done there. It's wonderful. I've been there numerous times. Good on you, Jeannie. Enjoy. Thank you so much for your call. That's a good one. Down at Woolloomooloo. Harry's Cafe DeWheels. Rob's at Bondi. Hello, Rob. G'day, Chris. How are you doing? Where should they go?

So I reckon North Sydney Council have a facility at Ball's Head, which is called the old coal loader. So it's where they used to bring the coal of the ships down from Newcastle, put it into the harbour and then use it on the steam vessels that worked the harbour back in the day. It overlooks HMAS Waterhenne and great, great views of the harbour. Good on you, Rob.

And it's a sustainability, a view of sustainable living within the city area. So it's got chooks there and how to live with nature, knowing that Charles is a... He loves that. He's a full greenie, isn't he, King Charles? He'd love that. And there's another one here. John, Chris, the King and Queen should come down to Newport Bolo for a beer and a lot of cheer.

That's John at Newport. Peter says the King and Queen should go to the Italian Bowl or on King Street at Newtown, not too far from their accommodation. Victor's at Alexandria. Hello, Victor. How are you going, Chris? I'm good, thanks, Victor. Mate, let's go to Robertson, have a pie, but the best pies there are the chicken and mushrooms. The chicken and mushrooms at Robertson Pies, eh?

Yeah. They can take home a sack of potatoes too, the Robertson Spuns. Good on you, Victor. Brian's at Bellrose. Hello, Brian. Yeah, good day, mate. How are you? Well, thanks.

That's good. Where should they go? Look, I think they should come to the Belrose Polo, mate. Look, this is the true Australian people. All the background, all of the Aussies that live around here, mate. We're all probably a little bit older than you. But look, they'd enjoy themselves. They'd settle in nice and...

We might even be able to get a decent meal for a change. If the King's coming, they'd want to step it up. Good on you, Brian. Enjoy it. So Brian's votes, Belrose Bowling Club, 131873. Final, John here on the text line. King Charles could visit all our coal-fired power stations being closed and demolished. He espouses from his private palaces and private planes to save the world legacy. Fair enough, John, 131873.

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Yeah, let's do it. Your time starts now. Australia is separated from which country by the Tasman Sea? New Zealand. Correct. What shape is a boxing ring? Square. Correct. Which country did Spotify originate from? The US. Sweden. Who won the Euros last night? Spain. Correct. Are there hippos in Colombia? Yes. Correct. Finger lickin' good. Slogan of which fast food chain? I missed it. Finger lickin' good. Slogan of which fast food chain?

Knuckles. KFC. Gabe, Gabe, Gabe. Chris, you ready? Yes, mate. Your time starts now. The Greatest Scrape is a war movie starring which legendary actor with the last name McQueen? Steve. Correct. Who won the most women's Wimbledon singles titles, Navratilova or Serena Williams? Navratilova. Correct. Peru is located on which continent?

South America. Cricket bat. Traditionally made from which specific wood? Willow or pine? Willow. Correct. Ottoman Empire. Headed by which country? Turkey. Turkey, Chris. Very close. Hey, Gabe, you got four. Chris got three. Well done, Chris. That was outstanding. Feel free to ring back later in the week and have another crack at it. It is the Jewel for Fuel. We play every afternoon here on Drive.

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Football's not coming home, it's not coming home. Wasn't it good to see the Poms lose this morning? Is that bad? That I took real glee out of it? Jeez, you're nasty. Spirit of cricket. After the spirit of cricket, I want them to lose everything. Oh, well, I can make it better for you. What about Joe Root, the former England captain, coming out today and he goes, oh, we should never have played the 21-22 Ashes series because of the COVID restrictions in Australia. What a goose!

Football's not coming home. It's not coming home. You're nasty. You're nasty. You know how we're talking about the King and the Queen coming. Steve on the text line says, Chris, when the King and Queen visit, they should enjoy lunch at Mark Levy's Pronto Cafe in Sylvania. That's Steve from Singleton. I don't think they'll get in. Too busy. Oh, well, mate, they're going to have to make a booking. LAUGHTER

No, everybody's welcome. We're getting close. Are you? How are you feeling about it? Yeah, not too bad. Yeah, not too bad. We're in the testing phase. I tested chippies today. Tested the chef too. Yeah, he's gone. Anyway. What's on the show? Brad Fittler's with us tonight. Jerome Luai is going to bring us up to date with Origin and Mark Bosnidge to talk about a couple of big games in football. Of course, Argentina winning and Spain being in. Football's not coming home. Goodbye. Not coming home.

See you, Levy. That's it. That's Wide World of Sports coming up next with Mark Levy. Of course, big match on Wednesday. State of origin number three, the decider. We can't wait. We'll have everything you need to know and more, of course, the late mail tomorrow, 24 hours out. That's it from me. I'll see you tomorrow at 3 p.m. Bye-bye.