'Bound to fail' - Trump-Musk feud - Luke & Clinton dissect explosive breakup
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20 to 5, well did you see this coming? I think a few of us did. Elon Musk and Donald Trump have fallen out of love and you would have seen these social media posts today. So Elon, of course the richest man in the world, put up a post saying it's time to drop a really big bomb and claimed the real reason about what's going on at the moment in this fallout is the fact, and he didn't give any details, but that Donald Trump is named in the Epstein files.

The Jeffrey Epstein case. And you know those photos have been floating around for years that show Mr Trump in the presence of Mr Epstein. No one is denying that that occurred, but this is an allegation effective of Elon Musk. No details yet, but that Donald Trump has actually been caught up in the wrongdoing. I want to bring Luke Grant in on this because he's been keeping across this in the past couple of hours. G'day, Luke.

Hello, Luke. G'day, Clinton. How are you, mate? I'm good. Was this bound to fail, this relationship? Well, I think so. You know, it just seemed too good to be true that, you know, you've got the bloke with the biggest wallet and the bloke with the biggest weapon, let's call it that, in the power he wields.

And at some point, they weren't going to see eye to eye. I think that was a given. But what's happened today is extraordinary. You referenced the Epstein files. Now, one of the things here is that Elon knows stuff. He was in the room. He's heard the conversations. And he would have been, you know, very close to Donald Trump and all those around him. So he's got firsthand evidence of

Now, if the worst thing is the Epstein file, well, he's dropped that, you know, kind of in day one of this feud. But what else has he got? And I think that's what Trump has most to worry about. And of course, what Donald's got is he's got billions and billions of subsidies paid to Musk and his companies, particularly around the electric car mandate. I mean,

I mean, I'm hearing Trump supporters who've got Teslas and now keying their own cars. I really don't know what happens next. Mate, there was a beautiful AI-generated tweet that had Elon and the Trumpster saying, ah,

We fooled you. Only joking. What a great prank. And that was just AI generated. So, look, I don't know. Are they going to come out all of a sudden and say that? I don't know. Is Trump going to fire up and, in fact, really enforce the cessation of subsidies? That'll cost Elon a quid, no doubt.

Where does it go? But it's just wonderful to watch and to quote that former independent who was a right royal pain of the you-know-what.

This is beautiful in its ugliness. That's what it is, my friend. I always thought it was a strange marriage, given that Elon Musk is a pioneer, whether you like electric vehicles or not, he is a pioneer when it comes to EVs. We always knew that Donald Trump was pretty much anti-EV. Do you think maybe the motivation for Elon becoming such a big supporter, a big financial supporter in the end, was to win the support financially of the Trump administration for his electric vehicle? Yeah.

Interesting thought, because let's not forget, Elon Musk spent $250 million supporting the Trumpsters campaign. $250 million. Now, Trump's saying today, Elon Musk knew all along this was part of the bill. We were going to do this. Musk now saying, oh, look, they've tried to get this bill in late at night. I knew no details. So it obviously really hurts Trump.

Musk in the back pocket, no doubt about that. But to think that he could win Trump or bring Trump into electric motor vehicle land, I don't know. I think, you know, he's obviously very capable and very persuasive and he wields lots of power, but

there came a point where Trump said, no, I just can't do that. Because both men agree on this, that a balanced budget is the outcome. And if you don't do that, then you shouldn't be in power. They both agree on that. So I don't know where Elon thinks that Donald Trump can save a quid. And if he thought he was going to, you know, he had a Donald Trump for the changing, then he got that horribly wrong. And even today, mate, when he wrote that he'd decommissioned

Now, of course, that transports the NASA astronauts and supplies to the International Space Station and does so many other great things in space. I mean, you've got to say that the hatred...

And the feud is so explosive. And then to wheel out the Epstein so-called mention, there's no proof of that. And for Donald, I mean, he's got the German chancellor sitting next to him in the White House and he's firing off. I mean, how uncomfortable must that have been for this old bloke?

Anyway, I don't know how it fixes itself, but I get the sense, as probably you do too, it'll probably get a whole lot more ugly if that's even possible. Now, Elon Musk did present the Donald with a Tesla a couple of months ago from memory. He doesn't drive, does he, Donald? No, no, but the Trump kids and others, they hop in this red thing. It's a magnificent-looking car.

And they do laps around D.C. taking pictures of it and them in it. So it's a real toy for the family. I don't know that Donald sits there and drives anything, quite frankly. But, no, that's got to be now picked up and taken away. Well, they've got the autopilot. How awkward is this? They've got the self-driving technology in the Teslas and the U.S. Yeah, yeah, yeah.