What if I tell you that everything we're going through right now, every event since the 1950s, 60s and 70s and onward, it's all actually happening according to a divine plan. It's all been ordained long time ago. It's all been foretold. I can go to anywhere, university campuses, prisons, mosques, gangs even. I can go to them and say, you want to be completely forgiven. They will
They will say yes, well join the jihad. When you have people who feel guilty, when they are afraid of eternal punishment, when other factors comes in like identity crisis, the feeling of anger over injustice, deprivation, alienation, when all of this come together, it is a toxic mixture which makes people vulnerable to people who could recruit them. I'm Thomas Small with Eamon Dean, former Al Qaeda member.
This is Conflicted, a podcast series where we explore the war on terror, of Islamist terror, of America's adventures in the Middle East. It's an extremely complex tapestry. We are going to do our best to unpick those threads for you to make sense of what seems to be a lot of chaos. It collapsed.