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Zionism and It's Discontents

2022/4/13
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Eamon
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Thomas: 本集探讨了以色列建国背后的复杂历史,以及它对中东地区文明冲突的影响。从青铜时代到奥斯曼时期,再到20世纪初的犹太复国主义运动,这段历史充满了民族、宗教和政治冲突。作者分享了个人经历,以及对以色列和巴勒斯坦问题的复杂情感。他认为,讨论以色列问题如同在雷区行走,稍有不慎就会引发争议。同时,他也指出,他母亲的村庄曾被以色列占领,这对他个人情感产生了深远的影响。他母亲对巴勒斯坦人和以色列人都感到愤怒,认为巴勒斯坦人的存在导致了黎巴嫩的灾难。 本集还分析了近期内盖夫峰会,讨论了伊朗及其代理势力对该地区构成的威胁,以及与会国应对伊朗核野心和地区冲突的策略。峰会也关注水资源安全问题,并计划每年举行。此外,本集还回顾了以色列建国前后发生的恐怖袭击事件,以及这些事件对地区局势的影响。作者指出,这些事件的受害者包括阿拉伯以色列人,这提醒人们该地区族裔和宗教的多样性。 最后,作者探讨了阿拉伯与以色列关系的变化,以及未来走向和平还是冲突的可能性。他引用了一位海合会高级政策制定者的观点,认为以色列对该地区构成的威胁有限,而伊朗才是真正的威胁。作者认为,关注以色列这个“虚构的敌人”符合过时的阿拉伯民族主义叙事,而伊朗才是真正的威胁。 Eamon: 本集从历史角度分析了以色列和巴勒斯坦问题的根源,特别关注了伊朗及其代理势力对该地区构成的威胁。他详细阐述了内盖夫峰会,指出峰会旨在应对伊朗日益增长的威胁,特别是其精确制导武器。他解释了沙特阿拉伯未正式参加峰会的原因,以及约旦缺席的原因。峰会还讨论了伊朗的核野心及其对地区粮食安全的影响,以及沙特向埃及提供资金援助以应对粮食价格上涨。 Eamon还分析了胡塞武装袭击沙特阿拉伯海水淡化厂事件,以及该事件对地区局势的影响。他指出,胡塞武装袭击沙特和阿联酋的设施,以及其远程武器的先进性,是内盖夫峰会关注的问题。他认为,以色列在水处理和管理方面技术先进,而沙特阿拉伯的海水淡化厂曾遭到袭击,凸显了水资源安全的重要性。 Eamon还分享了他与海合会高级政策制定者的对话,该政策制定者认为以色列对该地区构成的威胁有限,而伊朗才是真正的威胁。他认为,关注以色列这个“虚构的敌人”符合过时的阿拉伯民族主义叙事,而伊朗才是真正的威胁。

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The hosts discuss their hesitance to talk about Israel due to its complexity and the potential for controversy, sharing personal experiences and perspectives on the topic.

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Having avoided it for as long as possible, Aimen & Thomas finally turn their attention to the state of Israel: its backstory, its modern re-emergence, and its impact on the civilizational fault lines crisscrossing the Middle East. In the present day, Arab statesmen have never been closer to their Israeli counterparts, both sides united around a shared enemy: Iran. This marks a dramatic sea change from the past, and to help explain it, as so often this season, this episode reaches back into the Bronze Age, establishing the mishmash of peoples who have long called the Holy Land home, before returning to the pivotal late-Ottoman period, as Jewish migration to that corner of the Ottoman Empire, under the banner of Zionism, inspired the local Arabs to respond with nationalist ambitions of their own—culminating in the first Arab-Israeli war of 1948

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