Episode 2: Naughty and Nice
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All right, everyone. Welcome to episode two of Pillows and Beer with Craig and Austin. Thank you all so much for listening to our first episode. You made us trending on the Apple charts and we were as high as, what, 34, I think it was. So glad you all enjoyed it. We're very grateful. I think that episode one went well. What do you think, Craig? I think it was good. I think we were a little...

A little intoxicated, but that's what happens with you and I. Found us a little bit to find our groove. But I think we got it now. A little bit of a sweet spot. I think two glasses of wine, maybe a beer is our sweet spot. Yeah. Yeah. Like three quarters of a bottle. I mean, you know, we're both big guys and.

And three quarters of a bottle, you know, you give me a couple of glasses of Savvy B, Craig, I'll tell you whatever you want to know. That's it. And that's kind of the point here. And I was going to say, I mean, we were a little emotionally charged last week, but I think we're going to be emotionally charged every week. I mean, that's just we're both got most dramatic in high school. And I grew 2006 was a Panther. And what were you, Craig?

was an indian an indian yep indian river indians green and gold okay the providence panthers from providence panthers black and gold that was us black and gold yeah i was green and gold um and we did our superlatives were uh most dramatic i got best smile and most dramatic

Still hadn't kissed a girl, I don't think. But both of our pictures were the same thing, right? Yep. We were both whispering into the girl who was most dramatic. A secret into the girl that won most dramatic. I think that I was whispering. Maybe I was receiving. I don't remember. And my mouth was open like...

Oh, yeah. It's the same picture, though. Maybe they do that in all the yearbooks. That's really funny. But yeah, I mean, apparently I just found out you had other names, other intentions for this podcast. Oh, just like, you know, kind of interesting, right? So, you know, when we were doing this during quarantine, Craig, you know, obviously lots of things, you know, were different. But the first idea that we had was Pillow Talk, right? And we thought that was a great name. It is a great name. It is. I think it's going to be the name of my book, probably. It should be.

In fact, it totally should be because pillow talk is funny. Yeah. The solo cups go down. Solo cup. We're not drinking here. Well, actually, it's empty. Well, we'll get to that, but there's a nice and a naughty glass, but we'll get to that later. We'll see who gets the nice glass this week and who gets the naughty glass. Interesting, because I kind of did that, you know, like the nice and the naughty mask with my sister over Christmas. Okay, but.

A couple of things that, you know, we kind of thought about with pillow talk was that it was kind of, it was kind of Craig, you know, focused. Right. And, and, and, and Craig, you're very kind. And, and, and, you know, we did not argue about this. I just want you to know, like, this was not an argument at all where I was like, Greg, it's all about you, you know, but like it, it was kind of just like, you know, very graciously like, okay, well let's, you know, figure out something that can like incorporate, you know, both of us. It was not like, it was not like that, but I just thought that like a couple of funny things happened.

could be said like one of them that I thought was um, you know my idiot best friend and

That's a good one. I just think it's kind of funny. It's like, you're my idiot best friend. Like, Craig is kind of like an idiot, you know, savant. My idiot. Oh, you're saying that I would have been the idiot and my idiot. We were both idiots. Interchangeable. Yes, absolutely. And that's why it works. You know, kind of like, you know, wearing a shirt that's like, you know, I'm with stupid. Yeah. Right. And it's like, you know, wearing a shirt. That's a good one. Arrows that are both pointing to each other. I have one that maybe you told me about.

Actually, now I have a better recollection of this, and this will be a portion of our show.

For now on, moving forward, some special weeks, I guess. But Beanbag Boys. Listen, Beanbag Boys will always hold a special place in my heart. And I almost think that regardless, not to sound lame, but like that should be like a piece of merch that if it's like we ever sell merch for this thing, it'd be funny to like. We are the Beanbag Boys. Bo Clark was one of the.

Well, he was part of the first three beanbag boys, the three of us, at least our first guest with it. He wasn't in a beanbag, but we clearly were. And for some reason that day, we just kind of decided to. We were like, let's set it up here and sit in these beanbags. And it just so happened to be a pretty memorable moment.

you know, quote unquote podcast. I think that's something we'll bring back. Eventually is the beanbag boys. And towards the end of the podcast, we'll bring in someone to who's equally as intoxicated as us. And we'll start our Harry Potter names. We'll start to go live. Maybe.

if that's a thing. Yeah. And you know, when we're recording these to get in the beanbag because it's like a comfortable kind of setting. I know that both of us love interacting when we would bring someone live with us on Instagram was our favorite thing. I mean, we would get hammered doing it, but if we can figure out a way to have y'all call in during these things or come on to our zoom, all of a sudden we think that we're like, you know, Howard Stern here and we can just, and let's call her. We're the beanbag boys.

all right do you have any other names that you're gonna use um my best friend um was stupid there was one more like i'll think about it you know later during but but we really didn't give much thought because we kind of both conceded like immediately it was like look let's not let's not like focus too much which i understand is like the first thing that you want to do but you know sometimes coming up with the name is the hardest part oh it's so hard and and and i know that you know

So we down South was not, you know, the first year and then, you know, King's calling was not, you know, the first thing for me, it took me forever. Are you satisfied with your name though? Dude, naming things is so interesting. Right. And, and like, I don't know about you, but when I go into any restaurant or store on King street or, you know, anywhere, like I'll look up and be like, I wonder if they're satisfied with their name.

All these years later, like, is that a thing that you wake up one day and you're like, why did I name my company this like now I have to do it. It's like my LLC it will DLC is different, I guess, but I, I am happy because I made a decision where I overthink a lot of things in my life is Craig knows and everyone knows but

But I was like, I'm not going to overthink this and I'm not going to let this like bog me down. No, I think you hit a sweet spot. And when you do hit that sweet spot, you're like, finally, I can move on to what's more like important. And we actually talked about that the other night with my partners. If we ever do collaborate with King's Calling, we decided unanimously that we would –

we would never be mentioned. We love the name and we love you doing it. And we would just be there as consulting things. We were just like, we don't, we don't want it to be brewing down South. We don't even want to be like part of it. We just want it to be like King's calling and your thing. Well, thank you. You know, that's a good name. It's kind of a vote of confidence. Like,

Well, and you're the beer guy. It, it, it, it like plagued me, you know, for a bit. And like, I'd be sitting like on airplanes and I'd be like writing down names and doing this. And then it would eventually like my brain would turn a mush and I'd eventually be like, like the name of my brew would be like, you're an idiot, you know, brewing company. And I'd be like, Oh my God. How did you get the King's calling? Ah,

I guess a number of reasons, you know, King street is like the main thoroughfare on, uh, in Charleston. And that's where this whole thing was established. My Instagram moniker does have the word King in it. And so, so it, it was very, felt very, very good to, to find the word King. Right. And I was like, Ooh, Ooh, I want to focus on this word and figure it out from the word King.

So I suppose that if I'm referring to myself as the king, which sounds, you know, super like, like, you know, conceited or, or, or, you know, whatever the word is, um, or be the king. Right. If I'm referring to myself as the king, then making beer and beer is my calling. King's calling brewing company. That's good. And that's kind of where it came from. And when that happened, I was like, let's stop overthinking this and move on.

As we discussed earlier in the show, here's our naughty and nice of the week. I give you, I think I'm going to give you, so it's funny. I think you're naughty for bringing the situation that we've dealt with into our lives, but you are nice this week by staying unbothered and golfing with your family the entire time that one of the biggest Instagram posts

scandals has hit our show that i've been a part of it so i'm gonna give you the nice glass this week you can drink out of the nice wine glass you did you stayed nice you stayed out of it i'm gonna give myself the naughty glass because i'm on television calling someone trash about 30 times i was a naughty boy at the reunion i think that's how i see it i okay all right what do you think uh

I don't want to, you know, dispute you and call myself naughty, but you can. Yeah. Tell me why you deserve the naughty glass. I don't deserve it this week. Other than maybe my DMS to people. Oh, tell me what's going on in the DM. So I usually don't get each other to girls. Stop. I don't, but this week I did get a 350,000 K girl, but,

But I also show, and I'm not lying about this, and Austin knows this, when I am dating someone, her and I go through the DMs together. Oh, you do? Yeah, because we think it's funny. Because if you didn't, then it would be unhonest. Or dishonest. So Natalie and I do this together. I sent a couple of ones, Craig. Oh, you sent some DMs? No, no, no. Sorry. I screenshotted some funny ones for this specific reason. Because Craig and I kind of talked about it, and I was like, Craig, I think it'd be funny to do like...

And on this week's segment of Pillows and Beer. I have screenshots from years ago. And it's like DMs of the week. An announcer voice like. Yeah. DMs of the week. Rundown. Okay. So the purpose of this is not to call out anybody. Oh, no, Will. You'll never hear their names. I think it's to like encourage more show because it's.

Well, you always know pillows and beer is the number one rule with Instagram messages. No, no, no. Is don't be private. No, ever. Yes, okay. Don't be private. Let's just reiterate. Because if you send a message at the end of the day, look, 50% of the relationship is physical chemistry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're going to look. And if it's private, you're not going to mess his breath. Yeah, correct.

You're so right. Because preach that the entire quarantine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's right. Because during quarantine, it was so funny. Everyone was like, who's single and who's not? And I was like, okay, Craig is single and I'm not. You know, I was figuring out things, but...

So I was doing this on Craig's behalf. I was like, Craig, I'm living vicariously through you. You're like these girls that reach out. So yes, don't be single or sorry. Don't be single. Don't be private. Be single. Don't be private. Okay. So I just think it's interesting because then the people out there could like, you know, laugh and want to hear about it. So I took a couple screenshots because, you know, Craig is right. We get a lot of the same either DMs. No, not like in the same...

Well, I'm sure that that too. I'm sure that there's some girls in the shop. But what I mean is that we get a lot of the exact same ones where it's like, hey, I'm coming in town. Where should we eat? Hey, I'm in a bachelorette party. You're coming with my husband. And where should we go? And where are you going to be? And what do you do? Which is great. But this is an easier way. These are outside the realm. Okay, so...

Someone texted me are unsolicited and in parentheses or yeah, in parentheses kind of tit pics appropriate to send. Do I respond to that? If you're over 18? Yes. Oh, I see. I never respond. That's why I'm such a weakling. You don't respond. I've never, even when I was single, I never responded. You know what would get me to respond though? Our messages that say like, Hey, and stuff. I will say, I just got one again. Like I said, now it goes through these two, but.

It says, what's your favorite cheese? Like, that's funny. But for me, the people that say, hey, or what's up, is who I'm going to respond to. What? They just say, hey? That's all it takes? If you're going to do the pickup line thing, like, I was never part of that, like, dating app scene. Okay, okay. So another one, right? So they don't all have to be thirsty, right? So this one, because I was about to post it, Craig, so like...

you know i blocked out like his name and everything yeah go yo dude we shotgun brews late night fish mexico how can i get some of your brews up here in philly so well we uh kind of like craig said like yes the wedding was not the last fun thing that happened to me in 2020 i did go to see my favorite band fish in mexico in february before we began a film

And yeah, so this guy just randomly reached out. Hey man, we shotgun bruised late night. And I'm like, yes. I love that. Thank you. Awesome. Speaking of DMs, I need some advice. So I know you're a well of this lady. There is a lady in my DM. That is, yeah. Yes. No, no, no, no, no, no. Craig, before you say this. Okay, no, go. Okay. I'm going to say that there is a girl that I've never interacted with. I've never met in real life. I've never spoken to. But.

But after recently checking my DMs that go in your other folder, whatever it's called, it seems that there's a lady that believes that she's in a relationship with me. And it's starting to sound like she's sending this person money. I'm not really sure. Again, this is a disclaimer for anyone listening and everyone on the Internet.

that you are never taught. Like we all have one profile and it's the one with the blue check mark. We don't have side profiles. There's a catfish story with Austin, which is hilarious, which we will tell one day where a girl said, Hey, this is my private account because my manager goes through my verified account, blah, blah, blah. That doesn't happen anyway. So don't talk to our accounts that aren't us.

But this lady, I think is sending this guy money or thinks she's dating me. She messages Austin now too. So Austin, what do I do?

Because as soon as I accept the messages, I mean, I obviously it's gotten to a point now where I have to say something because I think that she, I mean, this lady actually thinks she's dating me. And again, I've never spoken to her before. Yeah. Um, let me, let me look up real quick because of what she sent me recently, Craig. I mean, I can spend hours. You know this because she reached out to me too. She's in my DMS a bunch, you know, but she doesn't think that, you know, we're in love or that we're dating or anything. Um,

You're just my best, the best man. And so then, yeah. Yeah. So then since she has been reaching out and the last thing that she sent me, Craig, which is kind of scary and kind of like you, someone's got to talk to her or take her phone away or I don't know, but she said, Hey Austin, this is Craig's friend. I saw that you sent me a text message, but it didn't have anything written out in the text box. Is everything okay? Tell Craig that I said, Hey,

And I'm like, so now someone's catfishing as my, one of my best friends to get to her too. So they're like, there are some scammers out there. Well, yeah. So, all right. So that's my, so I wanted to be like a reoccurring guest on this. I think that'd be really great. Well, I always said that I would contact catfish, but you should though, Craig, I think, I think that you should reach out to her and you should say something and you should say, Hey, I know that you've been talking to me for a long time, but, but I,

I have never spoken to you. So if anyone else has impersonating me, I really apologize for that, but it's not me. Maybe she'll be like, Oh my gosh, thank you for telling me. And then y'all just have like a fun little, but you're right. You're right. Because now she's forever in your inbox. Cause I definitely have, you know, one of those where I had like, you know, responded and I was like, you know, thank you for the kind words. And now even if I move them to general, if I move them to general, then it's still like, you know, pops up in my DMS that like,

There's a DM waiting and I'm like, all right. So that was the dark. That's my naughty glass of the week. Wow. Is that my dark weird DM? What's your weirdest DM fun stuff? Cause we're not even talking to Snapchats. We're talking to DMs on Instagram. I can say that I've had all the classic DMs.

dms like you know if it's not working take it out blow on it stick it back in oh my god nintendo game classic that was always a funny one that people sent me in the beginning of the show so what what are the weird ones that you get okay well like asking you for toe pictures or that though oh no no no feet guy no no no god crag that

happens to you. And that makes so much sense to me that people are like, Hey, Craig, like are your feet ticklish? Which I've gotten like a, like, you know, one or two of those, but I bet you got a lot of those. When, when I ask you, what's the weirdest DM you've ever got? What pops in your head? Um, I guess. Yeah. I can't even think. Right. Because I,

you know recently in my head has been so inundated with with with so many things that that are going on and and people like are reaching out and they're like hey i know that you're into blondes right and then they lobby you know themselves um on like but i can be your new act yeah like you know brunettes are right and people like the ones that reach out with the funny things just make me laugh

All right, everybody. We're back. I currently have a Bud Light. Austin has a... I have a White Claw. A White Claw. We're switching up, but... I have a natural lime-flavored White Claw because last time we drank one. Yeah, I've got this whole box of Hall...

haul wine though along with other boxes that i need to open from being gone for the last week so how about you say i open these boxes real quick sure you can come and you know while you do it and this is not like an advertisement at all it's just that hall is so it's so kind to us right well yeah they say it's like the best thing ever it's like it's like when you go home and there's like a box of hall wine just sitting on your stoop you're like

Yes. Well here, how about you pull the first one out of this box Austin while I open the other and tell us about it and pop it open. First bottle.

that I pull out is Jack's Masterpiece, which is funny because there are two of them that are my favorite. I don't know about you, Craig, but it's Jack's and then the Catherine Hall Collection. That one's great. The 1886 is probably my favorite. But it's funny. We're talking about Hall because out of our going lives during quarantine, the infamous lives. I always pull it off

Yeah, Austin's pulling the label off instead of cutting it at the top, the seal. You know, Hall reached out to us and we've become great friends with them and they make a fantastic product. Just so happens that one of our favorite restaurants in Charleston is called Hall's Chop House. So it all goes together. Actually, we need to tell you about our favorite spots. Maybe at the end of this episode, we'll do a little visitor's guide to Charleston. This swanky is... Well, I'm still unpacking from getting moved into my house. I couldn't go any deeper if I...

Here, give me the wine. Here, open my first package for me. Amazon Prime. So is there anything better than coming home and there being packages everywhere? Craig's first package.

A tanning glove from Gaia. Okay, Craig has a tanning glove. Yeah, tanning mitt. I lost my tanning mitt. Austin and I have a project coming up, and I'm going to want to be tan for that. Austin, you use a tanning mitt, don't you? Yeah, yeah. Well, after being friends with you, I realized that that's a thing, and tanning mitts exist. Absolutely.

actually, and, and, and kind of like on the reunion, I, I did tan my ankles with a tanning. Yeah. The tanning mitt. Right. Because I was like, well, all those out there, it's a Southern thing. Like a vanity, a magnification vanity mirror. Oh my God.

You don't even wear contacts, do you? No, it's for grooming. You pluck your eyebrows? Yeah, it feels good. Third box is a giant ring light that our friend Justin Anderson had in his house. It's this ring light. Remember that really thick one? The big one? All throughout quarantine, doing Watch What Happens Live and all of that stuff, I never had a really good setup. Now I am back.

So also, actually, I have a kegerator being delivered tomorrow. I know that. That's actually very exciting because Craig reached out to me and he goes, do you sell your beer in sixes, right? And sixes is a beer term, right? Like the frat keg or like the keg that you're all accustomed to, that's a half barrel. Now a six barrel is –

Basically, I knew some beer stuff. And Craig was, no, you saw it literally in the description where it was like, this kegerator fits a six barrel. And so you regurgitated it. And I understand that. And that's funny, but I was like, who told you that term, Craig? No, it was good. So Craig bought a kegerator that serves six barrels. And we'll have that on tap. It'll be amazing. Speaking of getting packages delivered, Austin, how great is HelloFresh? I mean...

23 plus options. Right. I think that a really cool thing about HelloFresh rather than going to the grocery store and like, you know, forgetting things that, that you have to buy and ingredients and this and that these are pre-portioned meals that are delivered to your door.

And yeah, the package comes with everything you need. There's nothing worse than going to cook something and not having all the ingredients that you need or not knowing what you can cook with what you have. And so HelloFresh delivers simple, fresh meals that you can make yourself. It's actually an awesome date activity. I really, I really enjoy cooking. It's brought my love of cooking back to my house. And honestly, my favorite this week was the chicken over garlic Parmesan spaghetti. I thought it was amazing. Right. And so that's,

Honestly, the meat package that they sent us, one of the things was Gouda Vibes Burger. That was a very, very tasty option for me the other day. I also love the Cranberry Dijon Pork Tenderloin. I don't think that's something I would make. You're fancy like that, Craig. But they make your engine. The Cranberry Dijon Pork Tenderloin. That actually sounds really good. And if I cooked that for like a date or something, they'd be like,

Oh, you are Mr. Fancy Pants. HelloFresh turns you into an incredible chef. It's easy to do, easy to follow, and it comes with everything you need. Also, I save a bunch of money using HelloFresh because I'm not at the grocery store overspending and buy... I mean, how many times do you go to the grocery store, spend $200, come home, and then you forget the cumin, right? And you're like, what? I've...

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Speaking of travels, this time last year, you and I were both in Mayakoba, Mexico, or that is the name of the resort. I'm not sure what town name is. I think that it's Mayakoba. Mayakoba was great. I don't know. But I had just come back from a wedding in Mexico, kind of swearing that I'd never go back because it was an intense week. And my partner and great friend, Jerry, reminded me that he was getting married in Mayakoba two weeks later. So...

I, Austin was my plus one and I think we had a heck of a time. Well, I think it was funny because yeah, I was Craig's plus one and y'all just don't know because I,

I mean, Craig and I were in like a honeymoon suite, right? But like, it wasn't like a suite. It was a villa with our own pool. We were in a villa with like, you know, Craig was in the main room and I was in like, you know, this other, you know, room that wasn't even attached to it with like our own pool. So it's like you slide it open and you can just like, you know, dive in the pool or fall in the pool and, and much to Craig's chagrin. Yeah.

unfortunately i don't know why why was i so like you know reckless also i just take his clothes off every night just get in the pool because you were i did you were in one of your i literally your freedom stages because sometimes when you would go through your breakups you would just feel free all of a sudden and i feel like that was a freeing moment remember skinny dips in that pool like every night and craig was like not impressed or well amused or anything and he'd be like

But then, you know, I would much rather you not get naked and jump in the pool. And I was like, I'm getting naked, Craig. This is who I am. And then I ended up, I'm always so shy when I'm out. But one of our friends, we went on a beach walk. We're going to talk about this? I love it. Why not? It's a podcast. Thank you. And so we're walking down the beach and there's a really cute girl sitting by herself at the bar. Who's your wingman?

Me? Yeah, and then don't think about it. I don't mean, that's up to you, pal. Okay, sorry, go back. Yes, Austin was my wingman. No, I'm talking about Kelly, not the girl. Kelly, remember Kelly we were with? McGinty. Sure. Remember her and her boyfriend? Anyway, we'll cut all this.

all right remember we were with two people big beard yeah yeah yeah got it okay so we're going down the beach there's a girl sitting across the bar uh by herself beautiful but i am too shy to talk to anyone and she keeps like looking over and austin's like you need to talk to this girl but i was too shy so him and our friend kelly i walked up to did you okay i don't remember i like you know walked up to her i saw that extra i got a margarita for us and i was like hey

well what are you doing my buddy craig over there needs a date to the wedding she was like oh i've been checking him out anyways yeah you have so i end up right got a date to the wedding yeah so i end up uh i i go to the wedding with austin well we almost don't make it to the wedding yeah yeah she did not come to the wedding because in my opinion that'd be rude okay okay we almost didn't make it to the wedding because we jumped out of the shower pontificating now but um

But what are we leaving? No, the shirt. We didn't make it to the wedding because I didn't have a shirt. Okay. No, no, no. We made it to the wedding. No, but we almost didn't because basically now all of a sudden I have a date to the wedding. I don't have a shirt. So I thought I could just get away with wearing a blazer and no shirt to the wedding. Well, it just kind of came to the point of like you start to get ready and then you're like, I really hope that everything's here. Right. And like how many times you've done that? Because I do that often where I'm like, okay,

I packed for this trip and the sole purpose of the trip was the wedding. Now let's hope that I didn't just pack, you know, tank tops. Cause we all know crap loves his tank tops. And like, I actually packed the things that I need to be a, you know, a human at this wedding. And yeah,

that's you know what i do and like it always happens i'm like oh my god you forgot your belt like if you just want to double check but you never do austin you idiot so i don't you know craig doesn't you know even like in a single check he he just like you know throws things together so the fact that you forgot your shirt for jerry's wedding and and like you didn't realize until like

We're on our bikes, we're on a ride up there because it's like what you do. Well, I think Kelly came out of her room and was like, where is your shirt? Okay. Okay. So where'd you get one from? I don't remember. So we go to the- So who gave you a shirt? Yes. Because I have a selfie here. I'll find it as you talk. So we get to the wedding and we get to the ceremony. And I think I remember asking, I don't know if I told Jerry or not, but maybe Alexis, Jerry's wife.

Also, happy anniversary to two of them. They're in my Cobra right now. That's right. No, because it literally was a year ago. Which is why that video was so funny that it popped up. It was like...

a year ago today you know then my then my date showed up and uh austin and i were like smoking cigars or he was because i'm not a huge cigar guy then i was like hey what's up and it was kind of a moment of spontaneity that i was happy about because austin's always telling me to be more outgoing and um it was great wait wait was this uh 2020 versus 2019 no january 2020 yeah it was 2020 okay why can't i find

So anyway, yeah. So we, yeah, we've, we've had some adventures and we also hold on, hold on, hold on. So, you know, we were not a part of Jerry's wedding party. Correct. And we were going to the beach that day or, you know, one of the days and Jerry was playing his like, you know, Friday afternoon, you know, groomsmen golf game.

So, obviously, we're not in the groomsmen party. All right. So we get there. We rent. We get bikes. What you do customarily is that you play golf or you play around in golf with your buddies. And it's kind of a point to this because, Craig, we're going to jump into, like, who is better and why. But I think that when we were going out to the beach. Wait. Okay. Just start over because that took forever. Okay. Okay.

So we're going out to the beach. Jerry's playing golf with his groomsmen. Right. And you and I were just going to have drinks. We're going out to the beach. Yeah. Which we like, you know, hop to every resort when we were out on the beach. It was kind of ridiculous. But...

We just so happened. I mean, talk about coincidence, Craig. Like Jerry was on the hole that we were like riding our bikes on. He was like, Hey, you idiots. Oh yeah. And so we jumped on to play and hit. And I like hit two beautiful shots and literally like birdied or part of the whole, you know, invading suit and making a barefoot. It was ridiculous. And the guys that we were playing with were like, what the hell?

And I was like, listen, that was a one-off. But, you know, everyone in that group thinks that I'm a ringer for sure. So after golf, we obviously hit a couple more beach bars, and one of them ran into Alex Ovechkin. Alex Ovechkin. I can't even say his name right, but I love him to death. I've never met him, but big fanboy. Yeah.

But we didn't do, we tried not to go up to him and, you know, because he was eating with his family, but we had to at least shout to him because we were there for Christina from Maryland too. Right, right, right. So, so I think that's something kind of funny. We saw him from the bar and we've been in that position. We've been in Ovi's position multiple times, you know, we're eating with our family and people want to know how to come up to us.

People are either going to laugh or think that we're so self-absorbed. Like they just compared themselves to Ovechkin, one of the best hockey players of all time. Right. And they just said that they eating with our families and Mexico with our parents who like pay for our dinner. Yeah.

And that, no, we're not with our families. We're not with our wives and children. It's really funny, actually. But there are nine different approaches, basically, that people take. Nine? I feel like I could put you in a category. The German nine? No. No. I think there are nine. I mean, let's run through them. People would be like, I'm not supposed to know you, but apparently my friend does. Okay, guys. This is all Craig. Okay, so number one.

I'm not supposed to know. Apparently, I'm supposed to know who you are, but I don't. Yeah. But my friend over there does and really wants me to take you a picture. A thousand percent. But in this scenario, that girl that's saying I'm supposed to know who you are, she's the super fan. Well, she's always the one that tries to hook up with you. Yeah. In my opinion.

Well, because there's one, they're either the super fan or the other one when they're just like, find out that you're on TV or whatever. And now they want to. Okay. So that's one. Yeah. Then there's nine. I don't know. This is amazing. I love it. Here, let's just go with the best one. My version of the best one is like, Hey, I love your show, man. So does my wife.

whatever it is like, Hey, I love your show. Can I get a, would you mind if I get a picture or, or just ask me a question and I talk to you guys. Okay. So number two, my favorite experience ever was in Lowe's. I was shopping for light bulbs and the guy working at Lowe's said, and look, nothing against Naomi, whatever. It's not, but it was during that season, Craig and I are going to start drinking and where we, when we say things that we shouldn't, we have to take, okay, that's a good one. So drink. So I think that when Craig says her name, he should drink him.

Vice versa. When we say our ex's names, we drink. But I want to tell everyone how to approach a celebrity, even though I hate that word, but whatever. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not getting passes. We're doing nine. I know. Hold on. I'm telling you. Lowe's guy. Lowe's guy looks at me and he goes, hey, just...

So, you know, man, I really thought your girlfriend was a pain last week. You know, I think your sewing is pretty cool or something. Okay. And I ended up having a 10 minute conversation with this guy because he just, he went into it. Like, I already know you are. So what you're saying about this interaction is that this is like, like,

You just pick up into the season. An offhanded compliment about what's actually happening on the show. No, they just talk about it. Like, hey, I saw that pool party this week. How drunk was Pringle? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they just talk to you as like live interactions. Okay, hold on. Let me give you three. Three is the man that approaches you.

Oh, my wife would kill me if I didn't get a picture with you. Yeah, that's a good one. You know, and I laugh. No one's forcing you to watch with your wife. Okay, that was what, three or four? Three. Okay, I'll give you four. The guy who goes, man, my wife used to make me watch your show, but now I fucking love it, guys. Yeah. I get in trouble all the time for watching the show without her, and she comes home, and I'm watching it already, but yeah, she used to make me watch that shit, and now I fucking love it. That's the golf tournament guy. Oh.

Golf tournament guy is into it. So that's four. Golf tournament guy. Okay. That's good. Five. You know what? I'm just going to go ahead and do it. There's the super fan, right? I love you guys today. I love you guys. I love you. Oh my God. I just, I, oh, I've been watching the show. Okay. So that's fine. But I don't hate that at all. No.

That's also super nice. Makes you feel good. Yes. If you're nice and you come up to us, we will talk to you all night long. That's a good point. One of that though. I have one. Sometimes we do six. Okay. Is it the one where we want to keep talking to the person, but they don't think we do. So they walk away and you're like, no, no, no, no. Go back. Go back. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's six then. That's six. Okay. So there are girls sometimes that come up to us.

And we're actually willing to like continue the conversation or guys, it doesn't matter, but they feel like they're bothering us. So they leave. Right. Okay. So that's six. Does that count as one? Not really. Cause I was, mine was going to be the one that says like, there's nine. Okay. We've got to grasp the straws here. So it's your turn. Then I'll, I have number seven being overzealous here, Craig.

Seven is I don't want to be like annoying or anything, but like, can I get a picture with you guys? And that happens when you're eating. That's who we didn't want to be like, hey, I don't want to be that person. That happens every single time. No, I'm saying that's what we almost did to Ovi. When it's like, hey, I don't want to be that person. And it's like, well, you are. No, no, no. Oh, that's it right there. I don't want to be that person. I don't want to be that person as one, but you are. Eight. Eight is innocuous and innocent, but it's

when you're trying to keep a low profile and the person comes up and says, are you Craig from Southern charm? And you're like, Oh, you have that mask on, but I still know you. Yeah. And it's really nice. But like, we would have liked if you just said like,

hey what's up like i'm not trying to blow your spot up but like blah blah because then it brings like a lot of attention i can't tell if this list kind of makes us sound like obnoxious you know i mean it does but it's just true because it's funny because you could jump right on you know exactly what i'm saying you know no no well that's why it's kind of worth talking about because whether or not you're sitting there and you're like god they sound so full of themselves like it it's just like a fact of life and it's funny because like it happens and craig you and i and

We love it. We love to interact. I want to change a thing. The person that offers us a shot or sends us a shot or wants a picture. It's amazing because what that means is that we're like... It's nice to be liked, right? That's nice to be liked. I'm just now learning that again, Craig. It's nice to be liked. I'll give you my impression or what I would do in that scenario because I'm nervous as hell. That's number nine.

I think number nine is the person that after all their friends are talking to us and everything comes up, doesn't say hi, doesn't introduce themselves, just taps you on the shoulder and says, just so you know, I have no clue who you are. And you're like, okay, cool. I don't know the

you are. I know. I actually love saying that back to them. Like, all right. Like I wasn't trying to prove myself to you or anything. It's always a bachelorette party. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's like, but it's not like, Hey, no, because there's some that come up for a picture and they go, I don't know who you are, but we're mean about it. You know, we're not, but it, but, but it's definitely like an eye roll because I'm like,

I didn't ask you to approach me, but you did. That was the thing. And then you just put me down. So here's a – we'll end on a positive note about this, though. This is my favorite type of person is – I mean, like you described as supreme, but not even that. Just someone that just goes, you know, their belly up to the bar next to us, and they're like, hey, man, we just had our third chop-off of the day. Just wanted you to know that, like, it's really cool. My wife loves your pillows. Or they do. Or just like –

something nice, but if I was to go up to someone, I would have waited for Ovi. Here, say I was going to go up to Ovi. This is interesting, y'all, because I am going to cut off Craig. Don't worry, I'll give Craig his time to talk. Okay, y'all will hear Craig. But Craig and I

Craig does not, right? He's so hyper aware of what's happening, right? He's like, no, no, no. And I'm like, Craig, if I don't approach him, then we're not going to talk to him. And that's just a fact of life. So I'm going to approach him and I'll be the guy to break the ice. And I might look like a little bit of a dweebus, but then that opens it up for you to talk to him, right? But if it weren't for me. Well, I'm very hyper aware of...

And it hurts me. And it's almost how much like almost when I started the pillow business and I had all these pillows in this room that we're sitting in now and I couldn't get them. Like I wouldn't mail them out because I was like, well, what if they don't like this? What if it's not perfect? What about, I don't know. Like the tip, like I'll get up, like I'll stay at the table and change everyone's tips because like, I'm like, well, that server knew who we were and they're going to think we're cheap tippers or anyway. No, no, always y'all. It's like infuriated almost. Cause Craig's like Austin, Austin,

You know, ma'am, can I get another beer? And then he'd be like, Austin, say please. And I was like, you didn't even let me finish. You're just so hyper aware of everything that's happening. Just relax. Yeah, I am. I am hyper aware. So now. So if I was to approach that, I will, I'll just put it in. This would have been a challenging one because Ovi was eating with his family. Yeah, but we had for him to get up to go to the bathroom. I would have. No, no, no, but we did.

And then we exactly what, you know, we did. And then he's coming back from the bathroom. He said, Ovi, like, we love you. Thanks for everything you did. I was like, Hey, Ovi, you know, big dance, which is super cliche, but I think that's what I would do. I think I would. All right. So if I walked up, cause I've had a few run-ins and one, I,

Hold on, but we have to be very clear. Alexander Ovechkin, number eight, plays for the Washington Capitals. Craig is from the area. The Caps are actually my favorite team growing up, my second love behind the Orioles, because I grew up in the D.C. area, but then I moved to Charlotte, so now I'm all Charlotte sports. But

That's who he is. And hanging out with the Gretzky's was really funny because Ty, the oldest brother that runs the Gretzky camp, was like, oh, Vetskin, he's only 200 goals away from my dad's record. I'm like, relax, Ty. No, but it's funny, right? Because anyways, Ovi is, you know, like he should already be in the Hall of Fame, even though he's playing kind of guy. So he is, that's who...

The guy is that we're talking about. And his nickname is Ovi. He is, he is Russian as hell. He has like three, three fricking teeth. But yeah. So here, I mean, because I, all right, there have been some people that like, I wanted to go up to that. I haven't before. And we are in Charleston. We're always out. So how should people come up to us? I think for me, it'd be like, Hey,

Hey, Craig, sorry to bother you, even though they're not bothering. We have to kind of preface this. Well, I actually have to do my. We don't think Craig. We don't think. OK, well, maybe you do. And it'd be beautiful. Craig definitely thinks that he's Craig thinks that he's like a B-lister. C-minus. I go with C-minus. Maybe C-now. After seven years of TV. But no, no. And Craig had a major glow up. Right. So, like, you know, Craig. Which you're due for. Yes. All right.

All right. Hold on. Let's do it. Yes. We don't think. All right. We think it's absurd. We love our fans. I just don't want to come across as like, if you come up to me, I might give you an autograph. I think the key is, well, the autographs hold everything. That's a funny day. The day you get your first autograph. And I was with you at the airport bar. Can we just say that our level of like, you know, quote unquote fame is like so perfect because it's like,

we don't put a tackled we don't we don't like end up in like you know the daily register or like you know things like that and like

you know, after hanging out with certain people. And then I, you know, and then we showed up in every single thing. I was like, Oh my God, I don't want this level of like, I like being, I mean, there's times where I'm like, why didn't people take pictures of us on the beach in Mexico? And then we've hung out with people where they do do that. And you're like, Oh my God, thank God they don't. And I'm like, Oh my God, because I gave her like a high five in public. I mean, we're banging. So anyway, if I was to go up to someone or to me, this is the way it goes. Like,

you're just treat me like i don't want to say without but so you just walk up and you're just god why don't you struggle with this i know ridiculous because this is this is exactly what i would say these are the best ones hey craig sorry to bother you i know you're with your friends and stuff i just want to say i love this show i think you guys are great and uh me and my wife are here me and my husband are here because we love the show and um

Do you mind taking a picture? And every time we're like, not at all, but like, do you actually want to talk or like do a shot? And they're like, wait, well, we didn't want to bother you. And you're like, guys, it's Charleston. Come on, hang out. Someone walking up to you and, and, um, you know, giving you a compliment or flattering you a little bit. I don't need to be flattered, but nobody is going to be upset at someone saying that, oh my gosh, I love you.

I love just don't come up and say like, are you that guy? Like, are we supposed to know you just be like, Hey, awesome. What's up? Hey, Craig, what's up? Like, you know, we're at your restaurant. Obviously you're here. We're at your, like if they're at the brewery, and let me tell you why I think it's like endearing to kind of act towards us, you know, this way, because, because yeah, Craig, like, you know what?

On the C-minus side, okay, fine, fine. I'll give it to you. Craig's a C-minus. I'm D, okay? I'll take D. And it's like endearing because, you know, TMZ ain't following us.

I don't ever say ain't because my mom hates that, but it gets the point across in a sense. All right. So if they're at the brewery, what are they going to say to you when they're at the place that makes your beer? Yeah. Okay. Just do your rundown of it. Okay. Okay. Short and sweet is good. I don't know how to do that, but short and sweet rundown of what I would want. So someone comes in, they drink my beer, they have my beer in their hand, and they say, Austin.

Hey, okay. This is always my favorite. Like, you know, the timid person, like,

They're like, hey. Also, we see you before you think you do. We know that you're trying to muster the confidence to come up. And Shep's actually really good about just being like, come over here. Just come over here. Like, we see it. So I think it's great if somebody approaches me and they have my beer in their hand. Okay. And this is a scenario of I was at the brewery and they approached me and they had my beer in my hand.

Hey, Austin, I'm drinking your beer. It's so good. Congratulations, by the way. Right. And then there's always, you know, the husband there, the boyfriend or the fiance. And they're like, oh, yeah, man, you have great beer. And then they say, would you mind if we could get a like it's such like a sweet thing to be able to say yes to someone. It's like we're on this.

funny little adventure that we've been on for a little bit, Craig. And, and I just think it's fun that people get enjoyment and entertainment out of it. And you're like, no course. Right. And then, and then when they want to sit there and ask questions and then they walk away from it going, you're such a normal, just like a normal guy. I'm like,

I mean, it gives me all the satisfaction in the world. And that's all that I need. I don't need someone to come up and be like, you are so handsome. I don't need all that stuff. But someone to approach you and say they love my beer, that they're rooting for me, and good luck in the future. And oh my gosh, I love the show. We're so proud to approve the Hanner Show. That's it, Craig, right? We like you a lot more than Shep. Okay. Scratch it all.

Craig just nailed it on the head. Just say, I love you so much more than Shep. And we will give you whatever. Full stop, period, and move on. And I'll be like, you're coming home with me. We're drinking some Hall wine. And I'm sure it's the opposite for him, too. Go up to Shep and be like, we think Craig's just a baby. Craig's just, he's a loser. Go up to Shep and be like, why do you give Craig such a hard time? That is gold. Yeah.

And then tell me you did that and I'll be in your Christmas card. Yeah. And Craig, Hey, okay. We'll actually do that regardless. But I think that because we're kind of like, you know, going down this path and we're doing all this stuff, we're doing like a podcast and a lot of other stuff together.

Hint, hint, wink, wink. That we need to have a Christmas card for next year. And we need to send it out to a lot of people. Oh, yeah. We'll have a pillow to make a Christmas card. Yeah. It'll be good. Totally should do that. So I think we give them... So I think we give the listeners kind of a...

Our guide to Charleston, at least, you know, almost when you're reading one of those magazines on the plane, like a day in the life of us in Charleston, because how many messages do we get a week asking us for that? I understand because what's the number one thing that you get?

I'm coming in town with my husband. I'm coming to town with my wife. I'm coming to town on a bachelorette party. And where should we go? Okay, exactly. We get this message all the time and it's, and we actually do want to help people out. It's just the Instagram message. We're world is weird. Okay. As soon as you start to engage with someone, you don't know where it's going to go. I would say my perfect day. Are we going to pick the dad, the mom, the bachelorette party, the bachelor party? What are we going to pick?

I would just say my perfect day, your perfect day, and then we'll pick one of the things. I'd say I'd go to lunch at 167 Raw. And what it's going to be, it's going to be about a half hour to 45 minute wait. This is with a best friend or significant other. I'm not going to go by myself. Best friend, significant other. All opposite for me. Okay. 167 Raw. And then you're going to walk down during your wait. You're going to give them the number and we're going to go to 152 Bin, which is a meat and cheese place.

and wine place. Then you're going to go back to 167 Raw and have some oysters and the special, well, you would get lobster roll and the swordfish pastrami, which is amazing, but you get two specials. They have an entree of the day and a butcher's cut of the day. Then that night, I would go to Hall's Chop House.

for dinner and that's pretty much in my life the best food and Bev day you can have just those two restaurants you can fill in the other things you're going to do drinking eating between them but if you hit 167 raw halls chop house you will see someone from Southern Charm most likely you are in my opinion being very boring with that list are they fantastic restaurants yes but we just talked about that's where you would take a girl on a date and I understand that like

depends the kind of date that you have, the kind of girl that you're with, what you want to accomplish. Okay. So a day in the life, we're talking breakfast, lunch, dinner, and I'm going to run you down it. Okay. There's a place called DAPS. We jump on my golf cart. We go to DAPS. They literally can and fresh squeeze their mimosas every day. So now that COVID's hit,

They can. They're mimosas. They sell them by the four-pack. They're freaking amazing. They sell them for like $26 a four-pack. I've seen it on Uber Eats, and I thought it looked amazing. I haven't been there. So daps for breakfast. Daps, right? They have things like Captain Crunch pancakes, Fruity Pebble pancakes, all these hashes, breakfast burritos, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Sounds amazing. It is all-day breakfast, right? And that's why it's great. You don't have to get there before noon or something. Lunch, Leon's. I don't want to...

to give away these places crack because they're already busy enough but leon's is literally this amazing spot in uh an old body shop it's it's in an old body shop so you know it automatically you know gives it character and and you know there's like you know the garage doors that open up to the patios and that's their tagline is fried chicken and oysters

So you want the fried chicken, you know, if you want oysters, sure. As Craig has said before, you go to one six, seven, if you want oysters, there are many other, you know, Charleston's known for it's bivalves. What about dinner? Okay. Dinner. I mean, you, you already said halls. So now I'm going to pivot to something that's fun. Okay. Cause my day is, is, is about like, you know, levity and, and, and being joyous and, and not that you can't be there, but,

fit no holy moly I don't know but while he's making that decision of dinner we would be at both Uptown Social and Dispensary for drinks yeah um we just look and and uh

Hall's Chob House is an amazing dinner. We'll come back with you each week with recommendations. We'll keep trying stuff. We'll travel around. The little golf cart tour segment. This is a good little segment. We'll have to do what we can do on a golf cart in like two hours or three hours. Yeah. And we'll do that for you guys. Well, for our second episode of Pillows and Beer, we're happy.

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