Episode 21: Pratt Daddy Part Deux
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Hey everybody, this is Pillows and Beer. My name's Nick Norris. I'm the producer of the podcast, as you may or may not know. Unfortunately, Craig is out feeling sick right now. Austin is off celebrating his birthday. Happy birthday, Austin. So we are going to decide to give you the Spencer Pratt Part 2 interview, as many of you have requested. And then towards the end of the show, Craig and Austin will be answering some listener questions that you've submitted over time. So please stay tuned.

Please wish Craig a speedy recovery. Wish Austin a happy birthday. And without further ado, here is Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag in their interview from a few months ago. And then, like I said, please stay tuned to some of your questions. And with that being said, this is Pillows and Beer. Well, tell us about... This may be the first podcast that I'm blackout on. Tell us about the hills, though. Yeah.

Give your... Hold on. I'm black. This is... Just so you know, this is the third bottle of champagne. It is. We're counting. And I have... Spencer, if you could see it, I have one, two, three, four, five, six Bud Lights on the table in front of me and an empty bottle of Cabernet. All the respective brands and...

you know everything else for maybe i don't know about ipas but last beers i drank was when i was 17 years old because once i figured out there's like champagne and hard alcohols like so you should send me some of your magical i will i will and uh and and and yeah but when we drink liquor it goes i don't know what to say but we go fast but i think that

Like, is there any way if I send you a six pack that you can like open a portal, you know, with it and be like, I think that this six pack. Crystal portal. Yeah. I stopped doing that because I felt like my real personality.

What I really know and believe is going to get me killed. So I've kind of dialed back, like my knowledge of what's going on in this world as real as that is. So like, I'll definitely, you know, grab out a vintage crystal wand that I have. Spencer and I are definitely brothers. You know, but like,

Like as much as you think, you know, like I've seen. I'm the East Coast version of you. We've never gotten to talk about it. I've had people appear. Let me, you can nick this out or whatever. In real life, as Heidi's my witness, I've had people pop out out of nowhere when we're on a hike. Real life.

like they appeared like a hologram and give me a message from the galactic command saying they're from the future, the past. And this is what you need to do in the future. Like the level of weirdness. Is it positive though? Or is it dark? Like, do they give you a positive?

message of being like, you need to help. They keep it very 100. I'm not going to repeat it on this. Well, you don't have to, but I'm just saying, is it dark or positive? It's real. It's not positive. It's not positive. Like where we're headed. And like, so I'm on the level where like, I feel like people are coming from different dimensions and giving me messages that I'm not even supposed to be. We're, we're way past. Like, if you think, you think, you know, we're talking about like, until you've experienced like,

How many UFOs have you seen with witnesses? I have under, I have less than three experiences, but I have a lot of stories that people have told me about out of body stuff, but I haven't experienced.

I'm at the level with witnesses that I'll call up multiple people where I've been in a place where things that are so past what you've seen on YouTube, TikTok, so scary, freaky. People are walking through windows and breaking the glass because they're so scary. I'm telling you, I don't know what I've done in my life, but we're talking about next level shit players. What?

I love it though. I love, I mean, that's what got me into crystals and everything. It's like, I see like, I don't know if I tracked it, but I have witnesses. So I'm like, I don't sound like the crazy person. Cause I'll call them up. Like remember when we're in the backyard of Malibu, what the F happened in their life? So, so that's why I always go back to like,

It's the facts. It's not like, well, Spencer's a conspiracy person. I don't like the word conspiracy. I love facts.

And the more people that witness things and I have that. So the only time I didn't have witnesses is when Heidi and I were having sex on the beach in Costa Rica on the, on the chase lounges and the lightning storm and the UFO came down rainbow colored back and forth in the lightning bolts. Like I don't have a witness on that, but that happened. So,

So I don't care. Tell me you came harder than you've ever come in your entire life. I don't even know if I came. I think we may have stopped because it was so next level. What the F? And from that day on, there was a drone. I

I don't know whose government, who it worked for. A drone followed me every day in the sky. I could look up in Costa Rica and there was a drone above my head falling. So I don't know, because keep in mind on this jet, I brought all my Lemurian crystals. I was making grids. I was talking to the, you know, like I wasn't just, I was trying to attract people.

multi-dimensional frequencies. You know what I mean? Like it wasn't like just eating my tacos. Like I was, I love it, dude. And we want to come out and film with you guys. If the Hills continues, which I think it is because you guys are doing, uh,

great and we'll fucking love to come guest star why don't you tell us just so we have it I mean tell us about the new season and plug the show because I mean viewers are gold full of disclosure Triller TV on the app that's where we should all be yeah so plug plug I don't even know if I'll be on this season of the hills because I'm too real everyone hates me I'm the bad guy why do they hate you

That's why we love you, by the way. I can't stop telling the truth. And the truth, everyone goes, oh, low blow. Oh, my gosh. And everyone wants to play the nice guy and pretend and worry about their image and use. Everyone lives their lives now if they're an Instagram filter. How there's all these lenses you can add to your feed. Yeah, it's bullshit.

People live their lives like that. So real people scare people and I'm too real. I can't, I don't care. Like you can cancel me a thousand times because I'll never be canceled because I know I'm with the truth. I love everybody. I don't care what gender you are, what race you are. We're not discriminatory. How you identify yourself, whatever. But if my truth is like scary to you,

I'm sorry. Who's the trailer that you guys are talking about though? Is that, so that's different than the Hills. It's called trailer TV. You don't know about the app trailer. I don't, I I'm not in a bad way. I'm saying like, you've, you've informed us about this. Oh, whatever. Austin gets mad at me. Cause I say not in a bad way, but I, let me rewind you. Yeah. Tell us, tell us like a, like a Tik TOK, a Snapchat and Instagram. They're an app, right?

So I feel like if they're giving Heidi and I the opportunity every week, every four at four 30 on Mondays, we get to go live. If you're letting me be live for 30 minutes straight and no one's editing this, there's no like to me, that's the realest way you're going to get to meet Heidi Spencer. So that's why I'm pumping up Triller. But obviously I love MTV. I'm not shading them. The problem is cast members. Okay. Real life.

They are all protecting their imaginary images. And here's what I've learned about humans. There's people that are straight up delusional of who they like, yo, you are not what you think you are. Like, let's, let's, let's like, let's stop playing pretend. So that's why I'm hyping up trailer TV. Cause it's hiding. I live 30 minutes.

Again, you and I are more similar than you would think. The whole genuine thing and authentic thing. What I've realized is I thought people were being fake to try to convince everyone else about what their thing was. But you then realize they actually believe like who they're putting off. And you're like, oh, wait, you really don't realize that you're just a fucking loser. I just argued on camera with the cast member for a solid 20 minutes.

that they literally thought they were more famous than this person that this other cast member was connected to. I argued for 20 minutes just because it's like, I'm getting paid. I'll argue with you. I don't care. I'm not going to be like, there's cameras on me. You want to keep arguing? That's a good thing to say by the way. You are getting paid.

So I'll fucking argue with you. Yeah, exactly. I'll argue with your simple ass. But you're not faking it. You're not faking it. Yeah, not getting paid. Not getting paid. We wouldn't even be talking to each other. Of course, of course, of course. You are getting paid, so I'll argue with your simple ass. There's three cameras on tripods. They're zooming on me. I'll argue with you as long as they're continuing to film me about that you think you're more famous than this person that I'm referencing. I'll play pretend with you.

In real life, we wouldn't even be talking because I would be like, you need to be in a mental hospital, you lunatic. Right, right, right. But because of this thing that, you know, we're in. Yeah.

So, so you play ball essentially is, you know, what you're saying? As long as everyone's paying me, all these people are working hard. They're Mikey me up. I'll play imaginary with this lunatic. Let's go. And I'm a lunatic by the way, as well, you know, and that's what you're thinking. You're like, I'm a lunatic too. So you have self-awareness, like you get it. Like there's lunatics who don't have self-awareness.

You know what? You're already a crazy person. You know what, man? What you just said is, in my opinion, a very huge kind of component that

I think people need to know. And it's self-awareness. Self-awareness, like if you're crazy and you know that you're crazy, that's called self-awareness. Like that's amazing. That's amazing. It's called knowing what you're doing and doing it fucking anyways. And that's because I have conviction. That's because I want to be doing what I'm doing and I want to be doing what I'm saying. And that is that.

I think that that's amazing. Self-awareness, self-awareness people. It's a real thing, but that's why I don't love his music. I'm not like a Kanye West. I don't have one song I play of his. That's why I love Kanye West and everyone hates on Kanye West because I truly believe he has self-awareness. He knows what he's doing. He knows what he's saying. It was like, he's crazy. He's bipolar and all this.

all this then I'm like no I don't agree I think he knows exactly what he's saying sometimes what he's saying people don't understand maybe he doesn't articulate it right and again I'm not a Kanye West fan I have one song that I play of his music but when I watch how he does I'm like

This guy knows his heart. So like pass how he figures out how to play it in the media game. This like he. No, totally, totally, totally. He married the right woman. And the woman has all the followers in the world. You know, they got today. They fell for divorce. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I do. So, but that's because. Because if you're on social media, then you have to be actually blind to not know that they got divorced today. Yeah.

So in my opinion, I understand why Kim filed for divorce because she doesn't want to live in Wyoming. She doesn't want to live this low key. Like Kim likes her life. She loves to go to Erewhon. She loves the Valley. She loves in Kanye's get a place where I was in 2010 where I'm going to live in the middle of nowhere. I'm going to do it. So I relate to that guy so much. Is that what he's doing right now?

That he's living in Wyoming? He lives in Wyoming. If that doesn't connect to how I felt, I don't know what does. What's he doing? He's doing him. And it's like he doesn't need to worry. Is he recording or is he just being... Living his life. Like a billionaire recluse. It's like once you get so famous and I was there, I'm not there anymore, and so rich, I'm not there anymore, I was there, you get to the point where you're like,

I'm going to do me. And then however I want to do it, he's on another frequency where he can do him. So be a billionaire. Dude, I'm all for it. By the way. Hey, you know what? I didn't like Kanye, but guess what? Now I do leave. Yeah. I don't like her ass and go and do you and live in Wyoming. Dude, fuck her anyway. That's my point. That's my point. I don't know. Kanye. I'm not a Kanye fan. I'm not a Kanye fan.

But if you're Kanye and you want to live in a ranch in Wyoming and not be IG storing all day every day when you could be... Imagine if Kanye IG storied every day or Snapchatted or IG Live. He can...

The fact that he doesn't want to do that shows me... He would get... Every day, main post, video magazine. A million plus views a day. God, you can't even comprehend what he could do. Right, right, right. He's not this lunatic. He's not off his meds. Whatever he's doing, he's doing what he wants to do. Again, I'm not a Kanye fan. I don't listen to his music, but I feel him.

And I understand him. And I, I love that. He does not care. Sorry. You guys get that. Like everyone in the comment section, everyone on the post and everyone that does this, they don't understand. It's a TV show. No. What we got to do to make a successful show. We don't get it. We, you know, yeah, we say things maybe wouldn't say if there weren't cameras. And I feel like he's the, the spirit animal of that. Like,

So, again... So then what you're saying is that you commiserate with Kanye because you think that Kanye is a genius on some level? Or is it just because you commiserate with him that he was married to this just awful woman who literally might be the thirstiest woman on the entire planet save my ex-girlfriend? So...

I love, I'm biased. I love thirsty women. I was at one time. I do love your ex girlfriend. I know you do. So I'm biased. So I look at this and I appreciate that energy. And I,

You can search tweets, Kim telling me on Twitter, can't wait till me and you and Reggie, we can all hang out. Like there was a time where Kim was tweeting me and it's like there used to be a joke underground where Kim would go to anything that opened. A drawer, if a drawer opened, Kim was there. And you know what I learned?

He's a professional. I, if I had done what Kim did, I will be more successful. If a drawer opened, she was there wearing a fucking. Yeah. A custom dress. So I'll never shade that level of grind and hustle and your ex. Like I'm looking, I followed your ex on my Finsta full disclosure. Cause I'm like, this girl is grinding like good for her. Like I'll never hate on somebody and,

Like, I don't care what they are. There's a real person, how hard it is to have success and work and like be fit and all and be a mom. So I don't know who she is as a person, but I know how hard it is.

Yeah, man, no doubt. Yeah, I know how hard it is to get posts and likes and engagement. So I am never the hater. That's why I love all these TikTokers. Everyone's like, like I try to get Brody on TikTok. I'm like showing off Brody, all these young kids. He's like, I don't get it. It's stupid. I'm like,

These kids are millionaires, dog. Like these kids and these stupid dances are millionaires. So I'm so biased and like I never go to my heart on like who they are. I don't care because it's hard to be successful. It's hard to get likes, it's hard to get views. So I'm going to give it to you. Well, Spence, we –

Nick said, obviously, this will be probably one of the best podcast episodes of the entire year. It's amazing. I'll never, like, stretch shade your neck. Yeah, Nick can come on. But, like, now, like, we have everything. Like, this is great. But, Nick, we also are drunk and just kind of want to hang out with you. So, if you're down. I stopped podcasting a long time. Like, finally, two guys on my level.

Yeah, let's just hang out. You know, like Nick, tell us like we have everything. In full disclosure, when I watch your show, I always say I'm on the wrong show. I say that all the time because I'm on a show where everyone is about their own thing. You can't have fun. You can't like and every one of my cast hates me in real life. Maybe they pretend they hate me.

And I don't know if it's jealousy because I want to win. I want season eight. What are you guys at? 10? I want that. Exactly. I want on our reboot. I want season eight. I want everyone to win, but everyone feels my glow and my positivity and my success. And they hate on me and they want to bring me down and they don't want to shine with me. And that's what I learned about the devil.

The devil gets in people's ears and the jealousy creates and all these sins and all these things. And I'm always like, man, I want people to win. I don't care. I want to have a great life. Yeah, like we root for each other. Like at the end of the day, that's the difference between Jeff and us. I don't know if Nick edits this out. No, no, no. Nick doesn't. No, Nick. Watch this. Watch this. I'll give you facts.

So when I started becoming Snapchat of the Year, I got the awards, the most views. MTV brought me back in the fold. God bless them. Viacom. And I was doing recaps of their incredible show, Siesta Key. Siesta Key was their...

No, if they're not at the bar and there's no cameras, it's irrelevant. So I started recapping Siesta Key for Cosmopolitan Magazine. Yeah, we remember that. You were doing that when we were there. MTV brought me back. They're like, hey, you want to fly to TRL when TRL existed? And I was like, I'll fly every Monday night, dock my Siesta Key recaps out, and I'll fly home. So I was doing that.

The MTV execs were like, we want to do a show about you. And I, and I regret this now because of how everyone's playing me out. I said, no, let's bring the Hills back. Like, we can't do that. I'm like, we can. Let me call these people. Let me know. I know we're going to do a show about you, Spencer. And my selfless win as a team spirit was like, no, let's bring the Hills franchise back.

And they did, but nobody gets on my cast. They're like, do you guys rewind? They wanted this Spidey show. You want to Heidi Spencer? And I said, let's bring everybody back. And now everybody turned on me. I'm the bad guy. Still. How are you still the bad guy? It's like, you want everyone to win Luke. I say that like we're all root for each other. And that's how does the cast film with you? I'm like, well,

What are you talking about? This is real life. So what are you doing that's like, how are you the bad guy right now? This isn't on the podcast. This is just us hanging out. Yeah, we're hanging out. I don't care. Nick Erickson.

I'm too real. I can't stop myself from being me. When cameras are on me, this is my time to be me because I want to be able to tell my son like, hey, that's your dad. I'll keep it 100. But you can't keep it 100 and keep...

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Get your first month free at greenlight.com slash pod. Greenlight.com slash pod. I got a question. So what's it like being on reality TV? Like how many friendships have you actually like lost due to reality TV? I have zero friendships on reality TV. Heidi is the only human in the minus other shows where people, you know, except for the Hills and MTV. What about Kristen?

Kristen knows me, but if we were on a show together and I had to keep it 100, maybe she wouldn't like me. Because Kristen knows I keep it. How did the scene go with her? Kristen's amazing. She backs Heidi. But I'm saying if Kristen is a full cast member and if she makes decisions that I have to have a real opinion on, I love Kristen. I feel like Kristen is incredible, but I can't.

I think you're talking to this person's whack.

I'm going to say it. And then maybe Kristen's like, I can't stop myself from being 100 because I've been around too many real gangsters. Like I grew up with around real huge, like I'm not a gangster, but I've, I've experienced real games. Like you gotta be 100. You gotta really. So Kristen loves me now. You know, I don't know the backstories, but when you and Heidi started dating, who was it that broke like,

You guys lost a lot of friends when you guys started dating, right? Or was it LC and Heidi or something? We started dating with no friends. Like here's the thing about reality TV.

everyone on camera is doing them they don't care if you're happy and you're loved well if you're good at your job then you're doing you yes but a lot of people are fake and it's a lot of people 99.9% are fake and they're trying to worry about their Instagram their brands there and that's why everyone's always like freaking out about what I'm doing how it's gonna affect the crystals like I

I sell rocks that have been in the earth for a million years. What I do on a reality show is not changing the rocks. If you want to believe in the energy, which I do in them, I'm not changing them after a million years. I am a fucking, I want the richest, best thing ever.

So if I'm selling something, it's because I would wear it. So that's why I would say like people like this will hurt your career and your business. I'm like, no, it's not. I'm selling something that's been on the earth for a million years. I didn't change this. I'm just helping facilitate getting it to you. So that's why I'm untouchable. And that's why the whole cast hates me. They all can't stand me. I'm the bad guy. But why do they hate you though? What happened? Because I keep it 100. Everyone's like to play pretend and whatever.

So it is what it is. And I'm not judging them. People live how they want to live. Austin's always had my back, which is good. I have no one but Heidi that keeps my back. So I know everyone I film with, everyone I'm on a show with, they will turn on me immediately.

Get that, Nick. Get that snap. Nick's got it. Sound effect, Nick. Like, Nick, in an instant, if they have a chance to take me down and go back to time machine, everyone hates Heidi and Spencer. They would love to do that. And I'm fine with that. If that's how you get your juice for 14 milliseconds, good luck. Here's a question that I have. And it kind of just popped to me, right? So, okay, fine. And you've told us.

10 times. I've been this drunk in a minute. Thank you. Good, good, good, good. So, so I'm hammered. You told us. What time is it over there? It's early. We got. Yeah, yeah. Hold on, Nick. Nick is the bell. Nick can always interrupt. So, so Spence, you told us in the past, like, you know, 10 minutes for like, oh, you know, they all hate me. They'll hate me. They'll hate me. But, but.

Is Heidi like a redeeming quality for you, right? Where people are like, okay, well, like we respect the fact that his wife is Heidi and we love her. See, Austin didn't watch the early years of you guys. You're right. You're right. I didn't. I didn't. No, no, no. Not in a bad way. No, I know. So actually, I shouldn't have interrupted. Not in a bad way. It's not in a bad way. I know that. So I'm asking you.

Yeah, that's right. You get that fucking picture, baby. I'm not going to picture my homie. Picture baby. No, let me be 100. My homie just had a stroke and he's been texting me this whole time and I haven't responded. He's like, not every day your best homie has a stroke. And I'm like, I'm going to live podcast. I'm sorry. I love you. And I'm not drinking at all. So we ran into Brody one time and I didn't like Brody, but Austin did.

But Brody and us, we had a run-in in a club in LA. No, no, no. Can we finish this first question? The first question that I had to you was, do you think that your father now... You said Heidi. Yeah, okay. So your father now, your wife is a mother. You are a family. Do you think that this...

is like in like in like people can't just now be like fuck you you fucking miserable fucking cunt you know and and I said they still write that to me they still here's what I've got to the life

I'm so thank you guys for getting me this trunk. Yes. I love it, dude. I would just put the microphone. What a fun Friday night. I put the soft mic on my. What a fun Friday night. You don't have a windscreen on yours, but we do. And they're soft. And so I'm pressing against my eye sockets. It feels good. You'll get a rash if you put your face to this. Yeah. I rub it on my face the entire time. This has a four hour podcast. That's what Joe Rogan does. And he's the man. Thank you, Nick.

So we're saying, I'm sorry. I'm texting my homie. That's like, you don't care that I had a stroke. I'm in the hospital right now. I'm like, I can't fix it. I'm not a fucking doctor. I love you. I don't know what you would call you. I don't know what to do here. I'm not a fucking doctor. I'm podcasting bro. Yeah. All due respect to Brody. The last time Brody and I were real friends was 2000. No, I did the math. It was 16 years ago, bro.

Brody does not like me. Yeah. So we were in this bar. That's 2005, bro. That's when I was in high school. So we were with Randall, Wala's husband, our fiance. Wait, are you younger than me? How old are you? 88. I'm 37. Jesus, I'm older than you guys. Old as fuck. You're an old bag of bones. Wait, you're only 33? Yeah.

Wow. Congratulations. You got a step up your hustle. You're going to get rich now, dog. Dude, I'm going to fuck everyone you've ever known in your entire life. I'm going to connect you to my billionaire homie. You need to get this Bitcoin. I want to be friends with your billionaire homie. Yes, I would like to be. I don't like billionaires. You got a 1600 on the SATs.

before they changed it where now you got to get like a 2600 or whatever. You don't even take that as a tease anymore. I'm sorry. I was texting about how many they got the stroke. Spencer. Spencer. Spencer.

Spencer, how many women do you think I can have sex with in the next six months? See, this is what I learned. Heidi always tells me this when we're having sex. It's real. In the middle of fucking Heidi. This is the words of encouragement. You need to get one Heidi. No. No, no, no, no. I just got out of...

Let me tell you 100%. You wouldn't have got out of Madison if you had Heidi. Let me tell you, that's a fact. If you think, homie, Brody and I were with Hugh Hefner at the Playboy Mansion for years before I met Heidi. No, no.

At the actual Playboy Mansion. At the actual Playboy Mansion with Hugh Hefner before I met Heidi. For years with Brody. Before I met Heidi. I already know what's out there. Let me tell you. You find a real one.

So Madison wasn't it. That's a fact. She's a great star. She's a great, like, let's create attention to the show. I'll support. She's a, she did what she needed to do, but is that who you're going to marry and have a baby with? Never facts. All due respect her. I think she's great. Fact.

Max, I'm not initiating here. I know you're not. Actually, you're doing the opposite. What I'm telling you, until you get the Heidi level where you unlock

a new level you're not going to want to be looking for other girls where do I find Heidi is my question I don't know because it was God where do you find a Heidi man because I was planning on being a Bane Illuminati sex symbol for my whole life I never I wasn't trying to get a girl like I said a girlfriend to me was the devil like yeah right you loser fuck that's where I was at

But then I was in the jungle and it's such a... I say this to Heidi all the time because even when I'm saying, she's like, I know you want blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I always say...

You know what John Sally told me in the jungle? If I'm a celebrity, get me out of here on NBC. And John Sally, supposedly the record person, if you Google this, had the most sex in the history of the world. Beat Wilt Chamberlain. This is John Sally, NBA player. He beat Wilt Chamberlain. He told me what he learned. I'm trying to go for that record. I promise you. Get ready. He'll tell you this.

Your dick can only go in one hole. So you could have like, I, maybe I'm misquoting him, but yeah,

You could have five chicks. They're the hottest chicks in the world. They're all, you only have one dick. So you could play all these. Oh my God. Look, all these girls here. There's only, he did it. How weird, like imagining what the next level is. John Sally did it. He made it very clear to me of a world. He described it. I lived in the coast freaking jungle with him.

He described it. I don't think they aired it, but he told me what is out there and what he did in his record. He beat Will Chamberlain. And he will tell you when you get the one that matters and I'm out there, I'm telling you like,

Trust me. If you think you two were pimping and playing, all due respect, you're not from L.A. I don't care what you say. I grew up in L.A. I grew up with the hottest girls, all the models, all the actresses, all the... Yeah, I'm sorry for your miserable fucking life,

Or you didn't grow up like a normal human. You grew up an absolute fucking asswipe with a bunch of asswipes. I lived a life that I'm not even trying to shade you guys. That's where you grew up, Spence. You grew up with asswipes and a whole bunch of plastic sixes. I'm not trying to shave you. I grew up in Los Angeles. It's a whole nother...

Like a high school party had 14 high schools at it. Like you, every girl you can ever comprehend was at this mansion. Like I grew up different. Like every movie I've seen, they've never done it. Never show. I've seen like what I, I have witnesses to like how I grew up.

I wouldn't be with Heidi if it wasn't special and magical and meant to be. So until you feel that, I'll never tell you to wife up. I will tell you to be single. I'll tell you this. My own dad, my own dad told me all due respect to my mom, like, don't get married. My dad told me that. Like, so I only got married because I found that –

next level sparkle special thing. So don't until you find that you do you you live your lives. No, it's not. It said right into my earphone. I said Austin's a psychopath. Yeah, and he totally Spencer tell the psychopath that I'm friends with how

If you can't use a reasonable judgment. Yeah. Like everything Spencer said was reasonable, but I was like, you're both psychopaths. You. Multiple people have called me a psychopath. I've heard that. No, no, no. I'll go to the loony bin with you, bro. No. A thousand percent. All right, Spencer. Spencer, here's where you could actually deliver some help. It's been awesome talking to you. Everything you're saying is right.

But when you fall head over heels with the wrong person, it's tough to get out of it. It just,

It just is. And a lot of people want this advice. Hey, Nick. You're totally wrong, man. We're just chatting now. Free Heidi hopes she doesn't listen to this podcast. Unless you're wasted, too. Yeah, he is. Fuck, I love you, Nick. Spencer, tell Austin how you get out of something when you fall in love with the wrong person. I fall in love with actual prostitutes, like

Women that legally, if you describe what they do, is prostitution. I'm not shading women. I fell in love with pre-Heidi prostitutes, like where they were absolutely like,

You've been in love with a prostitute before? No. So don't play like falling in love with the wrong people. I've done that. That's called being confused. So that doesn't mean that's the right person for you. Yeah, but how do you move on from that? That's what I'm saying. How do you move on from falling in love with the wrong people? You wait until you find somebody that... Bro, it's not my same thing.

I'm not saying it's your same thing. I'm just saying you have told everyone that you're moving on from this person that you fell in love with. We all know you were in love with her and there's nothing wrong with that. That's what you have. You have now chosen to move on. So I'm asking Spencer if he has any advice on how to move on. It's not a mind. It's,

It's not a thing that like you, like I can describe to you. It's a feeling. I would have bet my life that I'll be single till I was 70 years old being a fucking killer. Until you met your Heidi. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, it's a wrap. I'm done. I'm married. So were you with someone when you met Heidi or no? Or are you single? No, but I'd already done. Like I was in love with the process. Yeah.

An actual prostitute. Are you kidding me? Are you guys not hearing what I'm saying? Pay money for some bullshit. What was her name? Simon? You grew up in LA. All right, everybody. We're going to take a quick commercial break for our wonderful sponsors, and we'll be right back with Spencer Pratt. Pillows and beer listeners, our family. Do you ever have trouble picking the perfect Father's Day gift that will genuinely make your dad go, wow?

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Like, how did you get through that? We had the opposite of a producer like you guys and at a point do now, but it's like they're not trying to make us likable. And I do think that you guys have such a likability within the cast. And I do think your producers are protecting you. And when you're in it, it's hard to hear it and feel it.

feel it wrong. You're not wrong. Yeah, I really I feel that way about your show. And that's why I love your show so much because it's fun to watch. Like, that's why sometimes I can't watch the housewives because I'm like, I don't want to sit here and just watch pure negativity. There's like fun elements. There's sassy elements. There's but you but it's likable, you know, so it's like I like to watch something when I put my son down at the end of the day. But for us, you know, it was like screw the world type of thing. And it created negativity, but it put us together stronger.

And, you know, that's why we're such a strong couple. But that's great. But you're so well-spoken. And we see the same thing with Spencer and when we did your guys' podcast. It was awesome. But you're so well-spoken and you see stuff how we do. And it's funny and it's interesting. And sometimes it's hard to – And you're so hot, by the way. Yeah.

Thank you. That's so hot. But it is hard to get through this though. That is so nice. Thank you so much. So you should listen to what I say. But it's cool that I am a thousand percent here for you. Did you guys find each other while you were filming or before we started filming? No, so we met when I was 19 and we were in the club and actually Brody Jenner and Kristen Cavalier were dating and I was like, don't you guys have somebody for me?

And they're like, no, no, no, we have no friends for you. And then like, I was, I felt like the shit at the time. Literally, I was like on an MTV show. There was only a few. I was one of the only younger girls in the club. Like, I just felt like I was on cloud nine. I was dating like actors and blah, blah, blah. And I saw Spencer and it was love at first sight. I literally was obsessed with him. And he had 10 playmates around him, the hottest girls ever.

you've ever seen in your life and they were obsessed with him and he just got done producing the princes of malibu which was on fox he was on fire he was so successful but i didn't know any of that or care because i'm like uh i'm the successful one out of the two of us i'm on air i don't know about your past but like uh it's awesome it's amazing i'm sorry bitch i'm the famous one yeah i'm fucking you and your stupid i was like i'm hooking up with blah blah and blah blah you can get in line

So, yeah. And then I changed my number on him because I told him I was like falling in love with him. And then he went around telling everyone amazing. And that's before you change your number on people. You did not do that then. It was like a whole process. And so we spent like three or four months trying to get my phone number and everyone's like, Hey, he's begging for your number. I said, anyone who gives him my number is cut off, done. That's it. I will never talk to that person again. And then I started dating kind of his fat brother and he got like,

super upset and then he was like fine i'll start dating yeah i would be upset too but i didn't know they were i didn't know they even knew each other i didn't even know they knew each other and they they were like distant friends but anyways so then um he's like fine i'll get back on her on season two and i'll start dating adrena and so when he walks in with adrena i was like bitch you are that was my crush i liked adrena

Just as a fan. No, she is. No, she is. No, I mean, I was a fan of all of you guys. She had fat boobs. Well, it is one thing to say that you're hotter than her now. And I'm not saying that you weren't back then, but yes, you have aged well. Yeah, so anyways...

She came in with Spencer and I was like, oh no, this is not happening. And he was like, no, I'm just fake dating her to get back at you. Cause I'm so mad. He's like, I'm not interested in Adrena at all, but I am mad at you. And I just thought it'd be a good play to get on the TV show and see you again.

And so then once I heard that and Adrena told me the same, she's like, no, he's not interested in me. He's literally just trying to get back at you. And I was like, fine. Okay. I love him. There's nothing I can do. I'm like obsessed with him. I love him so much. And then that was it. And then we, we've been together since I was 20 and now I'm 34. So we've been together for 14 years and we never had a problem since then. Yeah, no, I mean, that's amazing. And that's why,

it's just, it's awesome to hear what you were saying. Awesome. Obviously it's tough to hear for him still, but, but it's not, it's not bad stuff. That's the thing. It's not like, Oh, well you could have done better. You could have done this. It's like, Austin, you are good enough. You're a really good dude. Yeah. And so it's, but the TV world is it's stressful and it's tough. And,

And those exes keep coming in your face and on camera. And then it's a whole different thing. You know, it's like that's way more stressful than just breaking up with somebody. It's like breaking up with someone and then having them sabotage you and then always being around and then having that conflict and then having them be able to drag you back in emotionally. See, Austin should hear this because he said that before. It is.

This isn't normal. It's not. Usually when you break up, you can just leave and you never see each other again. Austin, Heidi just said that

Being on a TV show as someone makes it that much harder because then they drag you in a drama and you have to see them and on scenes. Yeah, and then they look hot and then you see them with somebody else and then the feelings you wouldn't have had to like heal up and move on, you're feeling and you're like, wow, well now I'm feeling more for her than I would have because she's hitting, who's that new guy? Why did I forget his name? Oh, yeah, Pringle.

Pringle, Chris. Yeah. So it's like, so you guys never had that. So you and Spencer did. I mean, I watched your guy's show. I was a fan boy. But I felt like you and Spencer were always a team. You know, I, I didn't know how I felt about you back then. Like, and that's what's funny is like, I told Spencer, I don't know if you heard, but when we came to do your guys podcast,

When we were in LA, I was like, what? What? Wait, we're going to like, you know, because you didn't know how you felt about people. And then we met you guys in person and we could not have been bigger fans of you guys as humans. And that's why. Thank you. Yeah. We were like, we want to have them on our podcast now because it really is.

And we didn't realize the engagement that you get from podcasts that you actually get to show everyone a more complete picture of who you are. The show doesn't show. You get your own narrative and it's a through line. Like this show is what, three, four minutes of you guys for how many months integrated in a group you're not in.

You know, so it's a whole different thing than your own life and everything that you're going through and how you feel. And that's, that's the whole thing is the narrative. You, we now can control our own narrative. Who is that? That's that. That's me in the pink shirt and the bowl cut.

I look like a little babe, right? Like a little baby. A little boy or a little babe? A little babe. Like babe the pig. Oh. You know, like a little baby. Like a little baby. Not like hot, but like I look like a little babe. Like put me in a manger and fucking put me out to sea. No. No.

No, don't be so rude on yourself. Why are you so negative about yourself? I just think it's funny. He's been beat down for a while. I feel like you're so negative about yourself. I'm so confused. Nick, do you want to say hi to Heidi since she's now just looking at this guy on the side of the screen and doesn't know you're her main guy? You're killing me, dude.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Nick's here. Nick's our boy. Say hey to Heidi. I haven't seen you, Nick. How are you? Good. How are you? I like that red ear drinking. Thank you. Hey, show her your pajama pants, Nick. Oh, my God. Craig, Mr. Sewing loves the designs.

Oh my gosh. So my little brother lives for pajama pants. Oh my God. She said ponds. Awesome. And I have matching pajama pants for the show. I can't even pronounce it. Pajama ponds. We love y'all so much. So thank you so much for hanging out with us so much longer than the podcast. Cause it was just a fun hangout. Sorry. Sorry. I, uh,

I bought a hoodie and it says ski fast and eat ass. All right. Well, we love you guys and we can't wait to hang out in person. All right. We love you guys. When you're in town, let's fucking lean meat. He ate my lamb chops. Oh, you. We got to go. This guy. I love you guys so much. Bye.

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Does Austin having a new beer in development at King's calling? Also, let's start doing these quick. Okay. No, I don't. I'm moving to another production facility and they're going to absolutely streamline my beer. So I cannot wait to have one. Do you watch any housewives franchises? If so, what's your favorite? No.

I think if I had to pick a favorite, it'd be New York. I don't watch them, but girls I've dated. Yeah. And we know that we know like your Ramona. Yeah. And Sonia. Well, wild. And Dorinda from Bravo con. Yeah. Okay. Okay. New York. Awesome. Did Kyle share any learnings from lover boy? Well, absolutely. Kyle and I spoke at length a few different times about the,

what it takes to move your product to different territories, states, et cetera. And we had great talks. I really, really hope that they're played. Who knows? But the answer is yes. Kyle knows what it takes. Kyle has done a lot of things. I definitely listened and appreciated the things that he had to say. Austin, do you watch Schitt's Creek? Yes. Yes.

This isn't terrible because we've never answered this. In Charleston, celebrating law school graduation. Congrats. But what's one thing that she should do here? I don't think we've ever named that. It's not a bad question. What thing that you should do in Charleston? If you're in Charleston, I'm like, I think you should get on the water, Craig. Like, you got to get on the water. But is that feasible for everyone?

Well, yes, because I think you can rent a boat. You can rent. You got to get on the water. That's my answer. And that's fine. It's my answer. It's a sunset cruise, and it's not a bad answer. And it's why I was pushed to join a boat club so I could take people out on the boat. So you're right. Taking a sunset cruise is good. If I was to do anything here without involving other. Also, don't take a fucking horse carriage here.

Those poor fucking horses. But what you should do is walk around south of Broad, like the Battery.

you will see the oldest liquor store in the country where Blackbeard used to get his rum from, and they'd run it through an underground tunnel. You'll see the cannons they used to shoot, like, in the war. Like, I think that side of his really cool walking about. You better understand that the Civil War began here in Charleston. Yeah. Well, you can see where the first shots were taken. It's awesome. You can see the armory. It's actually really cool. The cemeteries have graves. Of course, we took our friends here. Like, you know what I mean?

I took Andy and Scotty and Jack down there. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think if there's one thing to do, go walk and go down to the market. Yeah. I think go walk. This stuff is what I would say. I mean, Austin's not wrong. Get on the road. Yeah. But that's all part of that. Like, and, and, and, and if you go and walk, right. I mean, of course,

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Austin is right, though. He is right. Go get on the water. Go look at that stuff from the water. Harbor Cruise. What's the plan for the limo in Craig's driveway? Are you booking bachelorette parties? The plan is that we're yelling at Jerry, who's fucking worthless half the time. I mean, I guess he's like, Phil,

oh my god right now jerry is gonna listen to this and be like he's an absolute piece of shit craig he's gonna i am the most productive person in your life he's gonna throw a bucket of paint so he listens to these in the store and he's gonna throw a bucket of paint on the wall let's be like come on craig come deal with your fucking worthless partner right now because i just threw paint on the wall let's just say let's just say that jerry has final say on what ends up on this podcast which is hilarious well it's hilarious that's not true

He has, he gives us over, he gives us, what would the word be, Nick? He gives us oversight, but we actually have final set. Sure. Okay. Sure. But we don't listen to it after he does the edits. Yeah, exactly. We don't listen to our fucking podcast. So what I just said was right. Jerry has final say. Yes. Because you and I don't listen to shit. We just do this and then we dip out. Yeah. I would die if I had like, I don't know.

No. All right. Take that flag. That too. Don't say that. Only the die part. Don't say I die. If I have to listen to this. Cause then the viewers like, well, what are we doing? Plan for the limo on my driveway. Apparently we're waiting for the title. We might've gotten it today. Why don't you answer that? Why don't you listen to your own stuff? Oh, why don't we listen to our own stuff? I'm just going to call Nick.

It would, it's just never, it's my anxiety. Like it's never been there for me other than like what Austin will tell you guys is I used to play the first episodes of the show in my house and after parties, but now I'm authentically myself.

And I just do it. And then I don't want to kind of, I don't want to look in the mirror. So yeah, I don't listen to this shit. Cause I don't want to look in the mirror. I tell you guys the absolute truth. I think Austin does too. Nick, I don't know what role he's playing sometimes. No, but,

But Nick, Nick, what are you, a cop? When we're real open about stuff, it's tough to look at yourself in the mirror. And so that would be a whole series on its own. Listen, watching us listen to ourselves. I mean, that would be. Oh, my God. Dude, correct. We would be. You might see our brains. I would get so absolutely lit.

Because we have to be drunk to listen to our shit. That's the point. So that's why we don't listen. All right. What's the plan for the limo and Craig's driveway? We would love to start using it. I found a driver. We want to take it to the opening. Were we instant friends or did it take time to vibe? We were instant friends and I walked up to Austin. And what did I say to you, Austin? Craig said,

So your buddies were Shep. I said, yeah. He goes, let's be best friends to piss him off. And I was like, this dude's going to be my buddy. Yeah. And we did it. Favorite restaurant in Fenwick. Go to your dog's name. Yeah, but it's the town we live in. Catch 54 or Steve's. All right. Just cut that too, because I can't remember my buddy's restaurant. Or I'll just add it in. We'll go back and read. Is Austin dating anyone? No.

From Wildcat992. What? Oh, from Wildcat. No. No, I'm not. I'm single. If you had to cover yourself in glitter, what color glitter would you pick? Purple. Oh, that's good. No, blue. I went gold. Teal. Teal. Even though I'm a silver guy. I went gold. I'll take gold glitter. Teal glitter? That's my color. I love it. Teal, dude. Definitely teal. All right. When will you visit Connecticut? Never.

Kidding. I went to a bar in Connecticut one time. It was this really, really awesome bar. It was called Tequila Mockingbird. Get it? Yeah, they're all over Ocean City in Delaware. Oh, what? Tequila Mockingbird is all over Ocean City in Maryland. Is there one person that two of you refused to interview on a podcast? No, and I think we've proved that. That's my opinion.

I will ask. Austin, I think the best part of this is just being truthful and clear. And I don't think if we have someone on here, we're showing favorites to anyone. We're just going to ask them everything we want to ask anyway. And I would hope that our integrity lives through that we could have anyone on here and be like, we're going to ask what any of you guys are thinking in your car. That's right. I think that...

You know, Craig and I have, have done not to toot my own horn, but we've done a phenomenal job of finding friends and people and there might not be friends, but new friends or, or people that you might not like. And guess what? We, we still decide to hang out with them because I, I,

I don't care. I just don't, I don't care much. And on the lives we brought people on because like anytime you're going to start to censor everything, like you're in trouble, like you might not see it, but you're in trouble. And Austin and I, I think my goal of all of this will be that you can throw anyone in front of us.

and we're not going to take a side, but we're going to fucking get to the bottom of whatever's happening. Like we're not endorsing someone by bringing them home. We're just, we're interviewing them. That's the whole point of this. Favorite Marvel story, arch or favorite entourage character. Oh, well both. Oh, hold on. There's three questions here. Okay. Favorite Marvel story. Okay. No answer. Answer it right now. I love Thor. I love Thor. Okay. Iron Man.

I love Thor because of when he went back and saw his mom in one of those. Okay, Iron Man's great. I love Iron Man because of Robert Downey Jr. He's awesome. And the story. The Whitney's buddies. Yeah. Favorite Entourage character? Oh, drama. A thousand percent for me. Drama's great. I know who Craig likes. Who? LaFari.

Oh, I love Ari. But, I mean, I love Vince. Dude. Because I wanted to be him one day, even though I never, I was in law school. He was the worst actor on the whole fucking show. I know. You're right. But I wanted to, like, I wanted to be him one day even though I was just going to be a lawyer. Trauma's amazing. Trauma's, he's fucking, dude, dude, let's get Kevin Dillon on our podcast. That would be awesome. Let's get on Vince.

Which one we relate to. So maybe I, which one of what? The third question is which Andrade's character you relate to. Oh, sure. Sure. Sure. Okay. Fine. Drama. All right. There you go. He's a dramatic motherfucker. He's absolutely hilarious. He's slighted at all times. He's my favorite. Yeah. Have you ever been to Wrightsville? North Carolina? Yes. Have you been in, well, I've been in the store.

Yes, I will be in the store a lot this summer. I go to Cricut all the time. I have Trompop in there. I stroll up in there. What's kind of awesome is when I ordered the kegerator for this podcast room, Austin didn't know what to think, didn't know if it was going to go. It came. So now that I told him I just ordered the kegerator for the store, he actually believes me and will be there on Tuesday. When I listen to your podcast, I just want to jump in on the back and forth. Thank you. And we'll get a phone number for that set up. Nick, is there a way that we can have

audio from a phone number come through? Yeah, I can look into that. It's just tough, you know, since it's a podcast, not a live show, you know? Yeah, but we have like the second... What the fuck did you just say to me, Nick? God damn it. This is not a live show, dude. This is...

What is the biggest change in life that has come from the show slash podcast? Guys, I think that's a no-brainer. Let's just do podcasts. The fact that Craig and I have our businesses. No, let's do the biggest change in life that's come from the podcast. We get to show you who we really are. Yeah. Have you ever met Bill Murray? No.

Yeah, but those stories stay in Charleston if you've ever met Bill Murray. I have a really good one, actually. Austin will tell you the best advice I ever gave him. Remember? Yeah. You know what he said? Yeah. I was like, Craig, how do we meet Bill Murray? He said, you don't meet Bill Murray. He meets you. I was like, true that, Craig.

That was like two or so years ago. Yeah, and if you were here, it's good. All right, fuck, marry, kill. Pizza, mac and cheese, chicken, and tins. Great question, Jen Reniger. I'm absolutely marrying pizza. I just have to.

Well, you got to finish this question. Okay. Well, I was waiting for your backlash. No, you don't know I'm going to answer that. That's why this is a good question. I have to kill off mac and cheese. I'm going to fuck mac and cheese. Yeah, because they probably feel good, too. Is it wrong? No, it would feel good. No doubt. Sorry, pizza, you're dead. I'm marrying chicken dinner. You're killing pizza.

Yeah, I'm going to get married. Well, I don't want to, but I'm going to marry chicken dinners. I'm going to fuck mac and cheese. I'm going to kill pizza. The thing is this. No one said we couldn't get sauce. So if I'm dating some chicken tendies, I want some. Well, no. I want some. You get whatever a true attriments that you get from it. The thing is that pizza makes me like... I don't feel guilty about... I don't eat well, but...

I could eat a million chicken tenders and feel fine. But like with pizza, I get my own head about it. So yeah, I'm going to marry chicken tenders. Favorite Disney movie. Say it, Craig. Favorite Disney movie for me.

If I have to pick a favorite, it's going to go Aladdin. Yeah, we both said this shit at the same time. You said it before me. Were you guessing for me? No, I was not at all. Oh, you were saying yours too. Yeah, mine. 100% Aladdin. It will always be Aladdin. I hated that my parents showed me The Gliding King as a kid. My family used to. It's my favorite song. I've seen it on Broadway. I've seen it in New York at the like.

Whatever that place is that has beds and blankets and shit, like the new one. I don't know. I love Aladdin. My second favorite would be Frozen. My favorite character is going to be Olaf. Who's your favorite Disney character? I mean...

We'll see you coming and having a drink with us? Yeah, definitely. Genie, are you kidding? Rob Williams, peak Rob Williams. He is genius. I'm okay with that. See, the things that are important, we're together on. House is burning down. What are you saving?

Damn, there's nothing in my house that I really, really care about that much to say at the top of mind. I'm sure that there is. Since my house has been through so much shit, I think I'm just running out. It'd probably be like, what are you going to save? How about this? We'll say, what will you be sad to realize that you lost? Yeah, honestly...

This sounds so lame, but anything that my mother has given me, like as a Christmas present, it's life. Like I cannot let go. Like I can't let it go. Can you save your cards?

Yes. Everything, dude. Everything. Even if it's a shirt that I don't like. She's like, no, no, no. Just send it back. It'll actually help me. No, that's weird you say that. I have them upstairs and my mom was just going through my closet. And there are some shirts that I don't even wear. And I was like, I think you got this for me, Mom. And she's like, someone else can wear it. I can't get rid of anything that my mom gives me. My mom gives me...

And on the driver's side, like pocket in the door are a lot of cards for me. I would be sad that...

Here's the one thing that I lost that I hate is that I had a picture of my golden retriever growing up that I took to college with me. Who? That his name was Champ. Oh, man. I didn't know you had a dog before. He was my best friend. Yeah, I didn't have any friends growing up, and my golden retriever is my best friend. And I think I lost the picture of me and Champ, and it was before, like, you

You're just going to tear at our heartstrings like this? Yeah. I had a Polaroid picture of me and Champ, and I lost it. That's right. What do you think? Nick's probably like 2-26 right now. He's like two kills. He's died 26 times. His team has died and lost every time. Played more so. Different kind of game.

Hey, everybody. Thank you so much again for listening to this special episode of Pillows and Beer, episode 21. My name is Nick Norris. We'll be back to regular program scheduling next week with Craig and Austin. Hopefully, Craig has shaken off his cold. Austin's shaken off the birthday celebrations.

And we'll be back to, you know, their normal antics on the show. In the meantime, please enjoy this week's US Open and this Father's Day. Please wish your father a happy Father's Day. And yeah, I know what I'll be doing this weekend. But until then, have a great time. Find us on Instagram at Pillows and Beer. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you listen to us.

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