Episode 8: Thank You for Your Service
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What's up everybody? This is Craig and Austin with Pillows and Beer episode 8. Somehow we are still alive after this insane project we just did in Vermont. I think it's gonna be an absolute banger. We are here in New York City at the Mondrian on 30th and Park and we are recording live. Okay. With sparkling red wine from one of our great new friends countries, Italy.

And the room service girl just said that she loves the podcast. And now Austin and I are flying high. What's up, Austin? Craig, hell of an intro. I love that. We are not live when you listen to this. That was wrong. But we are, damn, yeah, we're at 30th and Park on the 11th floor. Come and find us. No, please don't.

No, do. Yeah. On the 11th floor? Yes, we are on the 11th floor. But I'll never tell you which room. Yeah, so let's see. We're at the Mondrian. Norma at the Royalton.

So we kind of left our hotel to go and find a bar to have a drink or two and some soup as one does in the middle of the afternoon on a Tuesday. You know, big soup people. Austin's being converted into a big soup guy too. I did have lobster, lobster, lobster bricks, lobster bisque last night. We went to some sceny restaurant. We didn't know it was sceny. I didn't know it, but apparently it's where famous people go. Okay. This is funny. Craig, what was the name of the restaurant?

It was pistachios. It was called pistis. Pistachios. We went to pastis last night. I just learned this new term. FOS. Vermont. French onion soup. I don't know if I like it or I don't like it.

But Jack and Hannah taught me that. Have we? Jack and Hannah love them. We had so much fun with them. Our final night in Vermont, we met up. We, okay. How do we even? Yeah, so. Let's tell the story. So we met a mutual, we met a mutual friend.

So Austin has followed this guy, Jack Matrani, old professional snowboarder for Burton, host of the X Games. He currently is a professional snowboarder for Burton. And his brother Luke followed them for years. They're the friends group, F-R-E-N-D-S, because there's no I in friends. There's no I in friends. Which I've learned from Austin. And his fiance was on our film crew.

for the project we were just working on. She's our babysitter on the mountain and she's a total badass. She rips, obviously. So we went to dinner at Hen of the Woods in Burlington. Hen of the Wood. Hen of the Wood, which actually is a name of a mushroom. Yeah. Had an absolute banger of a dinner. Oh my God. Two nights ago. So basically this woman, Hannah, was like, I think you know my husband. And I was like, okay. Yeah.

okay you know what does that mean right and uh she's like you know jack i was like jack jack jack matroni i was like ha ha

I do not know your husband, but I would love to, to be honest. I've been a follower and fan for years. And yeah, so we were able to have this awesome, awesome dinner. And all we did was laugh and eat amazing food and drink a whole bunch of wines and play catchphrase. We played catchphrase at the table. It was like a drink, dirty martinis, drink wine. And we basically ordered a classic Pilar fashion or Amaro.

We drank... Sorry. Yeah, whatever. We did an Amaro flight, which is basically like... What is it? DJ Steve? Yes. A flight that doesn't include Jaeger, which I was pissed about. Yeah.

but there's Fernette's and which tastes like wet soil to me, but I like it. Super bitter. So we basically ordered the entire menu. And then when they came to get mains from us, we were like, you know what? Is anyone in a hurry here? We're like, no. And we're like, run it back, run back every appetizer, run back the oysters, run back the cheese, run back the mushroom toast, scallops. And we ran it back. And then.

We were hammered by the time the mains came, and it was overall an amazing experience. Yeah, I wouldn't say hammered. I would say that we were delightfully toasty. We laughed the entire dinner. Exuberant as to be. Also celebrating being done. I mean, we can't wait for you guys to see what we just did, but it's cool. It was our last night in Vermont. Let's just say that. It was our last night in Vermont. It was our last night in Vermont.

Flew to New York, which is probably the hairiest flight I've been on in maybe seven to eight years. It's like, you know, those flights where like you are flying and you're like, all right, I'm making peace with God right now. I am. I'm like,

Maybe going to text my mom, but like, you know, your knuckles are white from gripping the, and, and you turn your phone back on just so when you hit the low enough altitude, in case you're going down, your text message will go through, which sounds dramatic, but I actually had to put my headphones in.

I turned them on as loud as I could possibly go and then just closed my eyes. And it was as soon as the pilot took the plane off autopilot, the entire plane, like, I mean, we must have like shifted to the left by 50 yards or I mean, I don't know what it is, but the whole plane was like the people, if you weren't in your seatbelt, you were screwed.

But yeah, it was shaky, scary. We were also hungover as shit. But the pilots, the landing was actually awesome. It was a United flight. I was just staring at the flight attendant because I was like, he doesn't look worried yet. He doesn't look worried yet. The dude was literally reading a book. He was reading a book like a self-help

I was like, stop. Stop it, man. You literally have no fucks to give about this flight flopping around. We started to get into a holding pattern because we were flying into Newark. And I was like, this is not the time to be in a holding pattern. Get us the hell down. I thought so, too. I was like, I'm waiting for a damn duck to fly into this propeller. I was like, engine one down. We're going into the Hudson. It was...

It was a lot because then I noticed that we were starting to rise again. And I was like, please don't tell me the landing gears. I work. Oh yeah. It just, it was a lot. So, so we're in a hotel in New York city. And let me just tell you, I'm on the bed. Craig's in a chair. My bed is, is what'd we call it? No, no.

No, it's a tie-dye bed right now because last night, obviously, we went out with our boy Jordan. We went to Pastis. We went to Pastis last night. With our new Italian stallion friend. And our buddy Jordan Andino, who owns a restaurant in the West Village. He's on Flip Siggy. So we met up with him, his new location. And y'all are going to be probably, you know, if y'all like cooking shows, y'all are going to be, y'all should know him. Yeah, he's all over the Food Network. He might be joining us today. He's on Shop Junior. Yeah.

He should be joining us today. You've probably seen him on lives with us. He's the most infectious personality I've ever seen. Like, you know, sometimes I'm like,

quit being so happy he just did an hbo cooking show with selena gomez yeah he did um and he's got a new show coming out called junior chef showdown on the food network april 25th anyway he might be joining us today if not it's gonna be next week so we met him at his restaurant then we went to pastis that cini bar and austin had to get a they brought him out a heater for his feet that's right um

And we were sitting outside in like 20 degree New York City weather. That's true. And so then we came back to Austin's room late night and I spilled red wine all over his bed. All over my bed. So it looks like a little tie-dye comforter. And you know what? It makes me laugh because it's such a Craig move too. It's like...

Craig, his clothes are tie-dyed too because he doesn't really know how to wash his clothes. That happened once. And there's a really funny story that we won't be able to tell you for a few months from last week. But my bed is like splattered with bread. Actually, I'll tell you now. It consisted of me getting ready for our photo shoot. And I had an amazing outfit that I thought laid out.

And it was white pants and a beige turtleneck sweater. And I washed my clothes before the photo shoot with a new pair of blue AGs. And I opened up the dryer and I was like, I look like a blueberry. And all of my clothes were fucking bright blue. And thankfully, don't just leave it there. Thankfully, other people in the house made some friends and they

they let me wear them but laundry is a different different day so i actually really enjoy doing laundry i hate procrastinating i hate it i'm one of those people that like i throw it in and then i throw it in the dryer and then i leave my clothes in the dryer until i just kind of pick out clothes that i need from that dryer and i only take my clothes out of the dryer when i do another load you know see i lay them out over the back of my couch and then just leave them there

Okay, so that's a pretty good download of, I guess, where we currently are. Yeah, basically we're brain dead from the last three weeks. But we do want to say that, yes, the past two weeks has been tough. So when Craig and I first got to Vermont, we were able to record a lot of content because we were drinking.

Yeah, in our hotel room. And we were just like, you know, riffing. We just had a lot of stuff. We just had a lot of stuff. And obviously talking to Spencer was so amazing. That feels like a year ago, but it was only what? It was like three and a half weeks ago? Yeah. Three weeks ago. We want to thank you for hanging in there with us. We had a blast. We love getting your feedback. It sounds like you guys really liked the flying episode. We also got a really...

nice emotional email from a mom of a veteran and uh actually i'm gonna read that to you guys now because we have we'll be back to our normal show time starting next week i've got new guests and stories um coming soon but uh yeah apparently we shouldn't be sorry about what we shed and

Apparently we shouldn't be sorry about what we said on the plane episode. I'm going to read you this message because I think it's important for... What was it about again? It was about... So I had said on our episode, Flying Ain't Hard, that I don't know whether it's obnoxious or not to thank...

military personnel in the airport because I want to thank them, but I don't know if it's cheesy or not. And so we got this message, not just the airport. I mean, Craig, you do it everywhere. Yeah, I do it everywhere that we go.

Craig finds himself in a corner with some, you know, man of service, which is, I mean, it's really funny to say, but it's always true. I'm like, I'm a fan boy. I'm like, Craig, why do you always find yourself around three men? And he's like, well, this guy was special ops. This guy did this. And this guy did that. And I'm like, okay, that's pretty rad. And I'm like, and I didn't know. And they're not even, they didn't even tell me their special forces, but I know they are. Cause why else would they be in Charleston at this time? Craig and Spencer are kind of one in the same. He's like,

I know because he said alpha Delta force and that means, you know, and I'm like, all right. So we got this really, really sweet email that I want to read to you guys. It says, Hey, Craig and Austin, my best friend is friends. Oh, okay. So, Hey, Craig and Austin, um,

She starts by talking about a pillow party that I had had, which isn't relevant here. Says, I'm not into celebrities, but you guys were a delight. So when I stumbled across your podcast, I decided to check it out. I listened to my first episode entitled Flying Ain't Hard. And you mentioned wondering if you were being obnoxious by thanking servicemen and how you should do it.

As an army mom, this prompted a conversation with my son who got out of the army in December after serving one year in combat and being stationed for three and a half years in the middle. And his words were, don't ever stop. My son is shy and does not like attention. So boisterous fanfare is not his thing. However, he said every single person that has ever stopped him and thanked him was in the back of his mind when he was doing the things that his job required him to do. I just got chills again reading this.

Yeah, I mean, it's a really cool email, so I'm glad that you're reading it. It says,

My son is 22 years old and has personally known six men that have taken their own lives in the past four and a half years. The sixth person was actually just this past weekend. I would like to introduce you to one of those men. We'll call him Matt. Matt was 32 years old, married, and had three beautiful little girls. In July of 2020, Matt committed suicide after 10 combat tours.

I'm attaching a video that his buddy made and it was sent to a small SF group that knew him special forces group that knew him.

As you will see, these guys are funny, smart, and just like you and your friends, jokesters. I'm also attaching a photo of my son to show you the face value that you would never know the stuff he has seen or done. But I can tell you with 100% certainty, I can tell you with 100% certainty without giving any details that you, your loved ones, and everyone in this country is safer because of the things these two men and many others did. Matt lost his battle. My son, he is still fighting his and will forever.

To protect the privacy of Matt, my son, and myself, I ask that this email video and picture not be shared publicly. However, I also plead with you to not stop thanking servicemen for their service, no matter how awkward you feel, and that you use your platform to encourage others to do the same. Many blessings. Anonymous. So, yeah. What did you think after you read that, Austin? I read it twice when I saw it or when it was sent to us. And...

I got chills. I like teared up a bit because the statistics that she shared with us. And, you know, and then I was like, okay, once again, Craig is always right. And I was like, great. I love to make fun of Craig, but you know, he's like, he loves to talk to these people. He loves to pick, you know, their brain about everything that, you know, they've done and that they're doing.

And like I roll my eyes, you know, and Craig does it. I'm like, Craig, can you stop bothering them? But but, you know, maybe they love it, you know, because you're like a fanboy of it, you know, and that's not a bad thing. Yeah. Look after, like you said, those numbers are actually absolutely insane. And I know that there's a ton of homeless veterans and stuff that we want to like.

be active in helping or fixing anytime we can. So we have this platform now. I think it's something we're going to look into a little more. Obviously we're ignorant to it. We will never say we're not. I think definitely it's something that we're looking to. Yeah. And so we will relay whatever happens. So it's kind of fun though when things come out of these, these episodes that we didn't know before. And so I'm glad that

They reached out, and next time you see a serviceman or woman in the airport – Don't hesitate to say thank you. Yeah. I mean, look, as outgoing as I seem on the show and this podcast, I actually am pretty shy, and that's why I brought it up on the podcast. But the fact that she said her son had people thanking him in the back of his mind, the back of his brain when he was in missions in Syria is pretty –

insane so you know suck up your shyness if you feel like it and and thank someone but yeah so that was kind of a recap of what we did last year I said on maybe a lighter note shout out to Austin's

college team on making the attorney as a number two CEO. So we're going to transition into something very, very serious. Very, very light. Well, I would say that I would talk about that stuff forever, but I want to do a little bit more research and talk to this person totally before we talk about it. So that was kind of an update. And, and we totally will because you know, Craig and I have been talking a lot about, about things that we want to get like involved in, you know, because we do have a platform and, and, and things that like are meaningful and,

And what we can really kind of like sink our teeth into, right? Something that we can really try and help people with. And we are open to suggestions and things of that nature. But this is one of them for sure. So not to just like move on lightly, but we are going to move on lightly. Yeah, anything we can relate to. We can't relate to the service stuff, but we –

Maybe hearing the stuff we talk about will help someone. And like we said, you can always email in and always call in. We obviously had permission to repurpose that.

email obviously and or even though in the end it's and you know keep it to ourselves but we changed the names involved but we did ask her right and she was like yeah please um hopefully it can it'll help someone that's listening um so yeah that's kind of the serious stuff and right right right um now we're gonna transition we're gonna transition uh craig did just mention so the ncaa tournament right it's all kind of um

the tournament games

have wrapped up and now the NCAA tournament's happening. Craig, congratulations to Alabama. Because I had the first time in like four years my freaking team, we dominate football, but we can't do anything else. I'm like, can we not make the damn tournament? But we're trying to do it since fucking... I was. We're trying to like close out something and Austin's watching the Alabama game on his phone. I thought it was the entire tournament. I was like glued to my phone and Craig was like, Austin, get us over here.

I was like, dude, it's like 15 seconds left. And it was such a dramatic ending for Alabama to win that championship. I know that not everyone on here cares about Alabama. That's okay. I'm just saying in general, basketball is happening. So, so happy that COVID sorry, I'm burping because I'm drinking this delicious seltzer from our hotel. It's carbonated red wine, carbonated red wine, best friends country. Yeah. Uh,

And, and it, it just makes me very, very happy that tournaments are going on and like sports are happening. I mean, that's a, it makes me very, very happy. Especially for the students. I mean that, I just can't imagine putting myself in a position where I would lose college years to this stuff or, or, you know, college athlete years. So, and weirdly enough, you know, Craig and I have met many, many mothers who kind of

you know, echo that thought, right? Like we've met, you know, moms who are like, Oh, you know, my daughter wants to take like a picture for, you know, she goes to university or so-and-so and, you know, she graduated young this year and it's, and it's so sad because she didn't get to go back for, you know, her senior year or she didn't get to see her roommates. She didn't get to say bye to her friends. How sad is that? It's like, they literally,

had their senior year second semester or full you know year online and couldn't even like say bye to their friends really like like they went back to college to move out and you would have done oh

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I think in my position, I would have pleaded with my parents. I think I would have gone to work for my dad's company and just been like, dad, can I do my senior year? You know, when this is all over because, you know, I didn't need to go right into a job. So yeah, I think I would have, I would have waited to go back to college until this happened, but I know not everyone had that chance and I don't know what my parents would have said. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

You know, my parents were great. They let me go to school for an extra semester. I went to school for four and a half years. Oh, you were. See, that was one of my rules. I had to do it in four. Yeah, but that was my rule, too. But guess what, Craig? Sometimes shit happens. And it took me four and a half. Thank you, Mom and Dad. And, you know, I don't know about the gap year. My mom and dad would have been like, no, fuck you. But...

I would have been so, so bummed. I mean, all I can say is that thank God that didn't happen while we were in college because my college experience was rad. I know that yours was because Craig never left. Craig never left college. He just stayed in the same town. That's true. For me, it made me sad. Just like a random little one-off. Like it made me sad like

I did my semester abroad in Prague, which bums me out that you didn't do one, Craig. But I know it was just it was so hard to leave Charleston for a semester. Looking back, I would have done it. But Charleston was such a fun town. I was like, how could I leave? OK, fuck that, dude. People said that in Alabama, too. And they're like, well, I don't want to miss like a semester. And I was like, where in Alabama? Stop. But that's exactly what season. No. OK, like you don't leave in the fall unless you're a crazy person. Right.

i would have done australia i had girlfriends that went to australia and i've never thought they would come back yes never so when i did my semester islands like i think he went to the bahamas and like prog or something my brother he did a summer like semester okay his school had summer semesters why the hell would he have gone to the bahamas and then prog well he did because we did major was it called a semester at sea no no major no he didn't

That's so random. Yeah, he did May Term in the Bahamas, which was like scuba diving and shit, which was cool. I think he just went to a yacht week in Croatia, I think. That's different. You and I could do that now. That's not a semester... Wait, a semester at sea sounded cool too. That did sound cool. I really, really can go into lots of different things here because a semester at sea, I met lots of people that did a semester at sea and they said... How many more times can I say semester at sea? But they...

Said that the thing was, so they visited all these cool, cool countries and were all like a yacht, right? But they could only have, here's the kicker, Craig, and this is going to kick you in the groin. They could only have like two drinks per evening. Why? It was very strict.

Well, yeah. Fuck that. Because you're on a boat and they don't want you to like party, party, party, fall off the side. I think. I don't know. That makes sense. I don't know. So like, look at you. That semester at sea would have been a commitment. Once you were...

at sea you could only have that right so I talked to people that were like here's what we would do we would not drink for like three nights and then on the third night we'd have six drinks in our fridge and then we'd have like a party that just never happened for us we just had to get our room service fridges stocked because both of ours are empty from last night we've only been here one night

And by empty, we mean just the stuff we wanted to drink. Like, we're not drinking the mini bottles. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I think I would have loved to study abroad. So how was your study abroad? Well, tell us about study abroad and then tell me what you would have done with COVID. So this is what I'm saying. So you're saying, I didn't want to leave Charleston for a semester. I'm like, bro, you've been there for 14 years. You know? So it's like, like...

a semester abroad in Europe, like traveling to a different city every single weekend during college when you have nothing to do, but like there's no responsibilities if you're traveling abroad. If you're traveling abroad, like all that you're there to do is like pass your classes because mine went back to Alabama as pass fail, like hallelujah. Okay. And then, and then we didn't have class on Fridays.

and we didn't have class until Monday at five. Right. And I would take a university in Prague and we just like, we just leave on Thursday evening, go to wherever that we were going to come back on Monday to any city that you wanted to go. So, so when I was there,

uh the the guys that i met went to university of wisconsin and all of their buddies so it's like a thing in the midwest in the southeastern conference sorry in the southeast it's not a thing okay people go in the summer they're lightweights they're like yeah let's go for like you know four or five weeks no my mom was like you have to go for a semester i'm not paying for it you know that's some tough love from wendy but um because she did a year abroad in geneva

And so she was like, go, go, go, go. So I met these guys and all of their friends were in different cities in Europe. So we'd be like, let's go to Barcelona and visit, you know, so-and-so. And then they'd come and visit us in Prague and Amsterdam, Prague.

Barcelona, London. Yeah. Or like, you know, Ryanair for students and stuff is so, so cheap. And so we just visited everyone and they come visit us. And I didn't have any buddies from my college that had went abroad. And I was like, this is the most disappointing thing that I could think of because why wouldn't you do it?

Well, because of what I just said, and it's funny looking back. So anyone listening or anything like a crawfish boil, like a university Alabama on a random spring Saturday, listen, when you've never been, sorry, I'm partying in Amsterdam. I know when you've never been cool before and you get to college and all of a sudden your social chair of a fraternity and just having like, I was at home at college of Charleston. And yes, looking back, I a hundred percent wish I studied abroad, but I,

I didn't. I mean, I was the first kid to go to college. My parents didn't study abroad. I just didn't know. So you're lucky that you had your mom. What do you mean you're the first kid to go to college?

Like, I'm the oldest son. Oh, God, I got it. Yeah, like, I'm like, you're giving me one of these, like, I'm the first person in my family to go to college. No, no, my parents were both, yeah, no. I'm just saying Christopher got to learn from me, like my little brother, and be like, you should definitely do that. Because I knew as soon as I hit my senior year that I should have studied abroad. Yeah, and my younger sister did the same thing, and guess where she went? Where? Prague. Really? The same place? Dude, I mean, dude.

Talk about following in your big brother's footsteps. So I'm sitting, as we talk about this, on the window ledge of Austin's room. I know. And Craig is sitting there, and he's like playing with like, you know, the...

The curtain rods. He almost looks like I could take like a picture and he wants to write like a sad song or listen to a sad song. But the pro so the only reason I'm able to do this though is because my second brain is shut off when there's like a physical structure in front of me, but I've been like, I have a serious issue with heights now and wondering what if I just jumped out this window, which I know sounds crazy, but like, I don't want to jump out the window. This is something to explore.

Yeah, I don't want to talk about this before yet or no, but no, we haven't talked about second brain on here. We've not talked about psych eval for like the new show. We just did. Craig and I are nut jobs because we talk about second brain all the time. And it's a thing, man. It's a thing. Nick, have we talked about this yet on a podcast? Second brain.

Oh, you have not. Oh my God. All right. We're going to deep dive. Let me dive into some second brain shit. Yeah, of course. Okay. Okay. Okay. Second brain is, uh, yeah, it's the voice in your head. Okay. And, and,

Just because you have a voice in your head does not mean that you're crazy, right? So it's not like a voice in your head that's like, hey, what if you – no, no, no, no. The voice in your head is real, okay? And the voice in your head is telling you to do things in like a normal situation, okay? So you're sitting there. You're talking to like some older man and woman. Okay, you're talking to your boss, let's say.

you're sitting there and you're like putting on like a good face and you're like, oh yeah, no, no, of course, of course. But in the back of your mind, you're like, what if I just bitch slapped him right in the face? You know, what, what would happen? Yeah. Like what if I just punched this motherfucker in the head? Yeah. You know, there's

There's like a baby that's like crawling across the room. And that's Austin's. Austin's always thinks about punning babies. Stop. Don't say that. But that's second brain. That's why we're bringing this out is because you don't actually want to do it. Like, I don't want to jump out the window right now. We're a normal person of society and you can't do that. No, that's not why. Do you really want to kick the baby? No, I don't. I don't. I don't. But you think about it. You're like, what if? It's like, what if? And so I started to have a serious problem with heights.

like five years ago when Austin and I around then, I guess we had just met, but we were getting flown to New York and I was,

on these like you know top floors of these hotels and they had to have balconies and i'm like what if i just launched myself off this balcony what would happen what if i just like fucking launched myself like well when i think about it on the way down like not even jumped yeah launch just completely launched and so i had to stop going out on the balcony not because i was gonna jump or that i wanted to not you know what if i fell not what if i jumped what

what if I fucking launched? No, it would have been 100% just launching off of this balcony. And I remember it happened on this cruise I went on. I was like up. And like if the railing's not above my hip bone, I have a real issue with it. Because if I can lean into the railing, I'm fine. But if it's too low, I'm like, yeah. What if I just got like – It sounds European. Pushed and fell off. So second – I didn't know it was called second brain until my friend Matt Fasenfeld –

One day I like asked him because I saw it in a movie. I was like, dude, when you're at the top of the bridge, are you scared that you're going to get pushed off the bridge? Are you scared? You're going to jump off the bridge. And he's like a hundred percent. I'm scared. I'm going to jump off the bridge. Or are you scared? You're going to push someone off the bridge. Yeah. Or like Austin's is like pushing people off. And I was like, dude, I,

always think about jumping. And he was like, that's called second brain. That's not weird. This is called second brain. I was like, wait, that's where you learn what that was. Yeah. And I was like, there's a name for it. And Craig told me that because I said something to him one time. He was like, yeah, fucking second brain. It's called second brain. So it's something all of you out there.

I want to hear your best second brain thoughts and email us, please. Once again, the boys at pillowsandbeer.com. If this window was open right now, I would be on the other side of the room because I would not be able to not focus on like what would happen if I just jumped out this fucking window. And so like I'm comfortable. And part of you too is like I might be fine, right? But obviously, you know, reality is that you would not be fine.

Do you think that too, though, by the way? I do. I'm like, am I invincible? Because I would jump and not. And this is like, you guys out there are probably like, these guys are fucking nuts. But I think a lot of you might be like, okay, so I'm not crazy. Oh my gosh, I can't wait for the response. And we want to hear your best second brain stories because Austin, to me, is one of the ones like when we're in a room with a big

a baby like i know he's thinking about kicking it across the room even though he doesn't want to i know the voice in his head is like what would happen if i just punted this kid i just want the reaction of everyone else and i don't know why this happens but yeah mine's with heights like i'm just like what in the middle of this party if i just launched off this balcony and i hate it and so i don't go out on balconies anymore i'm so happy you said launched not just like

Tripped and fell. And again, we just had to do this psych eval for this new show and we were texting each other being like, this is... Oh my God, we took the best screenshots ever. We already talked about this, I think. No, we didn't. They told us not to. Well, we can't talk about it again, but...

Fuck their funny questions. Yeah. So anyway, you're not crazy if you've had dark thoughts before. Are you afraid of fire? But like if you act on them, then you're crazy. But do you think other people find you attractive? Yes. Oh, the psych about it?

Just sitting in this window. Give me a good description of what's going on in the street because you are in the window. There's like a bunch of people walking. The city looks alive. The room is gray, though. There's a dog laying down being drug on the sidewalk by its owner. Really? Clearly doesn't. Yeah, he's wearing a chip. Is it Shep?

oh this dog looks scared um just completely fucking unaware of what the dog wants just what he wants yeah dragging along definitely what chef definitely what chef has done um yeah the dog's like mom i don't not want to walk this way anymore oh now he's walking okay he's running now yeah born to run looks like new york

I wonder how many people look in each other's windows here. Cause like, you know, it's so funny. Okay. No, sorry. Go. I was going to say like when Natalie moved to Charleston, she leaves her windows open all the time and she's in an apartment building. And I'm like, people are a hundred percent watching us right now. Okay. And she's like, that's no, they're not. This is a great thing to talk about. I, I,

Love that thought. Really? I'm like, I'm going to leave my window open and walk around fucking naked. And I hope that someone is looking in, you know, I don't want to see them, but like, you know, it makes you feel kind of sexy. No, I mean, no, no, no. Well, don't say it like that, but yeah. Yeah. Kind of in like, you know, New York. I do, you know, not in like, you know, my house in Charleston, New York. I do.

I do. I'm like, maybe someone will glance in and just see me strutting around, strutting my stuff. But in Charleston, it's different because like here she was saying that no one gives a fuck because everyone's windows are opening. And I 100% watch like I try to see stuff and I've seen stuff out of a hotel. Oh, my God. If I lived in New York, I'd have a telescope. No doubt. Yeah.

See, now this is going to be the episode where people are like, these guys are nuts. But we're just being honest. That's fine. I would definitely... Let's get Spencer back on. I like to watch... Yeah, Spencer, come back on so people think we're... People think that you're more nuts than we are. No, I watch, and that's why I was like... Would you not have a telescope too? Yeah, of course I would. Totally. But...

If I lived in New York City, I would request to live on the 10th floor. See, I would be fine with being watched, but I don't want to be recorded because of just the world we're in now. And that's kind of what freaks me out. I don't mind people watching, but the recording... As long as they couldn't record it, I wouldn't care.

Nick, do you have second brain or do you not know what we're talking about? I know what you're talking about. And second brain hits mostly in my opinion, when like, you're kind of having like a conversation that like, you're just like, Oh no. Yeah, sure. Sure. And like, you're pretending that you care and you're like, what if I just slap this motherfucker? You know, that's where second brain comes in for me. Okay. And on that note, we're going to take a little break and we'll be right back.

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Craig and I are freaking painting six-packs on our abs. We are living large. When springtime hits, there's this golden time in Charleston. And it's from about St. Patrick's Day on. Right? What did you say? Yeah, I mean, this is – it's usually like April 1st. But like once St. Patrick's Day hits, it's – I mean, I saw a lot of our friends were on the beach this weekend. Yeah, St. Patrick's Day is –

It like it's normally every year is like sun is shining, you know, and you're like, she like it's back. So obviously we're in COVID times and we realize that being here in New York. Trust me, everyone. We understand. But Charleston is Charleston's a bit more open. Moving on. No, the city's wide open. We're excited. Come visit Charleston if you feel safe to do so. It is fantastic.

An amazing town, which you know, you hear us talk all about it. But when the springtime hits, our routines stay the same, but they change a little bit. We go out on the boat. We go out to the beach bars. Home team. When that springtime hits, man, that golf cart is revved up, always charged, ready to roll. It's never bad. Never a bad time. We're eating oysters. We're on the, you know, try to be shirtless as much as possible. What are you looking forward to the most now that –

Everyone's getting vaccinated. And I mean, Charleston has been open for a while anyway, but we can pretty much do whatever we want down there. What's, what's your favorite springtime activity? Yeah. What I'm looking forward to the most springtime activity, uh, springtime activity, not even just summertime activity. Springtime activity is, uh,

I mean, gosh, it's just cruising on the golf cart, Craig, okay? Because what you do when you do that, when you cruise in the golf cart, is that everyone's out. Now people are wearing 70-degree weather stuff, sundresses, white pants. I wear them all year, but whatever.

And except for their stained blue. Everyone kind of dresses nice in Charleston. I mean, to an extent, I think it's like, that's true. It's acceptable to dress up there. And I really like that. Don't go out and see someone, you know, like we were in Vermont.

You could see a college girl from a mile away wearing sweatpants. Yeah, that happens sometimes, but no. People don't just roll up to the bar wearing sweatpants and sweatshirts. No, they dress to impress. It's funny. Rooftops. Rooftops. Because what happens is that Charleston only goes through a quick little winter, but that's what's cool about Charleston. It has four seasons. Maybe three because there really isn't...

It really isn't like a fall. But so we get out of this like dark month or two, and then when it comes back, then everyone's just alive and rooftops are popping. Golf carts are happening. Oysters are slurped. What's your favorite rooftop? Citrus Club, Sweet. I have to say Uptown. Well, yeah. Well, Uptown's the best. Uptown's going to be where you see Awesome Nine. That's the party rooftop. It's the party rooftop.

But Citrus Club. Citrus Club is a fancy rooftop. That's where Kristen and Justin were when we picked them up. Yep. It's on top of the Dewberry. Bendoo Inn is my college rooftop. The Watch. Love The Watch. I've only been there for the top of the restoration. A promo event once. I used to go there. I used to go there. You go there a lot. Yeah, well, I was in love one time. I used to go there. Let's see. So...

Okay. We have reached our segment entitled questions with Craig. I hope I'm guessing that all of you find Craig and his habits just as fascinating as I do. So I like, it's so funny because we'll travel somewhere like, you know, we'll do something and someone's like, where did Craig go? You know, it's like we got there playing their day. And someone was like, well,

where's Craig? And I was like, well, Craig always goes to the bathroom as soon as we got off the plane. He always goes to pee as soon as we got the plane. And like, I'm kind of weirded out that I know just these like little like idiosyncrasies of Craig. So I think Craig is a fascinating creature and I bet that y'all do too. So I'm going to ask Craig some funny, you know, weekly questions and we're going to continue to do that because Craig is an, is, is an interesting guy. Let's just say that. I can accept that. I don't know.

That was a nice way. That was a nice way of saying that Craig is a creature of habit and sometimes not a creature. Definitely a different... Yeah, I'm a weirdo. But...

But hey, you have a good time. We're hanging out. You're going to have a nice time. But yeah, you never know what you're going to get with these with these questions. So let's let's shoot. Let's see. OK, OK. This week, these are some funny questions that we got from y'all and questions that I've just kind of been thinking about that. I'm just going to throw in there because sometimes like, yeah, I don't want them to know which like which question is from like a fan.

or from you know one of y'all and which question is uh is from me because like i just kind of want to know some things about craig that i don't know yet and i'm like why do you tick the way that you do and we'll never know probably which is why it's gonna be great so um okay question one is from one of y'all and i'm gonna say that about every question he's never gonna know when it's my question craig how should a guy dm a girl if he's not famous i think that you should say um

God, I'm going to give away my lines. Yeah, but you're famous, so it's fine. I would say, you know, what's up? Or like, hey, start me up. Oh, stop. But then I'd ask, like, where's your fun level at? That was always my thing. Like, where's your fun level at? So make up a girl's name and be like... I'd just be like...

No, I wouldn't say, Hey, Christy, I think I would just text. Well, see, it doesn't work. You have to, you have to come up with your own thing. Like if everyone just starts saying, where's your fun level at, then it becomes the same thing as like, Hey, did you fall from heaven? Or, you know, like you have to challenge them to figure out a way to challenge them from what?

running through my mind. Right. And so that's silly. But if you challenge them or be like, you know, do you think you can keep up and like a bar in Charleston or do you like to party? Like something that challenges them of being like, yeah, I'm like, Oh hell yeah. I can keep up with you and I'm more fun than you. So I think you challenge them in a way that's not cliche, but I'm not a pickup line guys and never pick up line. I would just be like, maybe like,

Yeah, you kind of tease them on one of their pictures. Like maybe you forward it to them and be like, you could be having more fun. I don't know. I'm also not a big slider in the DMs. Yeah, I know. I know. But that's still good to know because some people would want to know. I would say no pickup line, but just say like, hey, what's up?

And if they respond, then you're like... I know, Craig. What I'm trying to say here is that that doesn't work for Joe Schmo, who has 100 followers. How do they slide in here? No, no, no. We've been doing that segment for me. Have an attractive picture on your profile because unfortunately that's what they're going to look at. And don't be private. So be attractive and don't be private. Okay.

Okay. Got that. Craig, what's your go-to and favorite? Okay. So I think that these are two different things because God damn it. I can answer all these questions for Craig, which is sad, but ask me and then you answer. Okay. And then what is your go-to?

cocktail okay and then in my opinion it it should be dot dot dot and what is your favorite cocktail because go-to and favorite cocktail are two different things well austin clearly knows my go-to yeah your go-to is bud light oh no cocktail i would say cocktail but no but like i walk into a bar in charleston they pour me a double sugar-free red bull and titos and a pint glass

yeah that's sick but i would say that's my go-to car you know what you like kind of turn into a person like you start to turn into the person that you're dating and like craig and i like now that craig does that i also get that too that and i ever since moving to the bahamas they drank so much jaeger down there that i shoot jaeger now again after college i remember austin visiting me and being like did you just order jaeger and i was like yeah you got to get used to it and now

he orders jager that's true okay so craig we said cocktail not not not frat well no tell him about the perpetual bud light your theory about the perpetual bud light yeah so we were in vermont obviously or maybe not obviously so we were in vermont for a month and uh like me and some other people had this theory about craig that we've never seen him crack a bud light

We've just always seen him with a Bud Light in his hand. It's just like this, it's like a never ending Bud Light. Like I, I don't see you go to the fridge. I just see a Bud Light in your hand at all times. That's funny. That's true. So that's that. And then my, do you know my favorite cocktail in Charleston?

Your favorite cocktail in Charleston? Yeah. It's the hot pepper from Oku on the rocks. Except it's got a sugar and spice. Sorry. A hot pepper, a sugar and spice. It's a habanero...

passion fruit habanero infused cocktail at Oku. And he gets it on the rocks. Yeah, and I get it on the rocks. And then Austin likes the hot pepper, which is from Hall's. That's true. The hot pepper is from Hall's. But yeah, I'd say my go-to cocktail, if I... I mean, towards the end of these two weeks that we were filming, we went to the store and got some sugar-free Red Bulls, and we're like, alright, we're turning it up. So, sugar-free Red Bull vodka and

Sugar and spice. Okay. So, Craig, this is a good one. This is a really good one. What movie would you want to be living in? Okay. So, like, you know, like, no, I'm not going to even explain that. Just what movie would you want to live in? I mean, obviously, my...

My instinct was to go to a war movie because, you know, I'm obsessed with special forces. You want to live in a war? No, but I don't want to live in the war movie. I just would want to play in the war movie. So where I would like to live is I'm so excited for this.

well okay i'll just i'll walk you through where my brain was going what's the movie walk run job with um rebel wilson and the guy from workaholics the rom-com rebel wilson and uh andy divine yeah and remember she lived in the fantasy world of a rom-com andy that's his intern name is andy bovine his name is i don't know oh yeah yeah yeah um

Isn't it romantic or something like that? Isn't it romantic? Hold on. I'll Google it. Is what my brain went to. I mean, like, Mighty Ducks would be cool. Wow. What movie I want to live inside of. Wait, is it called Isn't It Romantic? I don't know. I'm so excited.

Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's where I want to live. Isn't inside. No, it is. Yeah. It's called, isn't it romantic? So, so, so like it's constantly a rom-com. It's constantly a rom-com. It happens. It's like birds come inside to help you like, you know, dress and like you come out of the shower and your hair is like already done. I think, you know, I think it's fantastic. I actually remember seeing that and being like, and like they break up, they break into the ice cream store and just leave money on the counter. And it's like, no big deal.

I think that would be mine. Okay, that's actually a cool answer. Either that or Wolf of Wall Street. It's the complete opposite. But yes, either Wolf of Wall Street where we're just like raging and making millions or isn't it romantic where money doesn't matter, obviously, because you're in a rom-com 24-7. Okay. Craig, what's the coolest place you've ever been to?

The coolest place I've ever been to is Corsica, the country of Corsica. You didn't even hesitate. No, that will – I never had an answer to that question until I went to Corsica. It was my first helicopter ride. It was like the cattle graze on rosemary and thyme. Like that's what their grass is. So, yeah, my entire experience in Corsica will always be my favorite place I've ever been.

Do you have a favorite place in Charleston? A favorite place in Charleston? Like the coolest place you've been in Charleston. Have you ever been down on the washout? Like all the way down to the lighthouse? Of course. That's a cool place. That's probably the coolest place I've been in Charleston. The washout? Like all the way down though to the lighthouse where they film like that scene in Outer Banks where he pulled the gun when, what was his name? Rav? Oh, wait, wait. That's where that scene was filmed. Oh, oh, where Rob, is it Johnny? No. Oh.

JJ JJ pulls a gun on the, on the, who is it? Pogues versus who? Kooks. Kooks. He pulls a gun on the Kooks. Hopefully the season two comes out soon. Over under how many of them are going to bang my ex-girlfriend. Okay. Anyways, zero. Moving on. Craig. Okay. So I don't know what questions are coming. All right. Craig, what is your guilty pleasure? Guilty pleasure. Okay.

I think baseline, it's going out to eat. I love going out to eat. That would be a baseline and drinking wine and cheese. Well, my comfort zone right now is sitting in front of my fire in Charleston and eating cheese and drinking wine. But my guilty pleasure would probably be spending money on something. Spending money is kind of like a turn on. Yeah. Spending money is, is a guilty pleasure.

I mean, I don't know. You know me well. Just say that. That's funny. Just leave it there. I think spending money is my guilty pleasure. I just really like spending money. It's a guilty pleasure sometimes. And I do it a lot for no reason. Like other night at dinner. I can confirm. Craig likes to haphazardly spend his money. And I'm like, why'd you do that? And he's like, whatever. Whatever.

Yeah, I like to share. I like to buy stuff for people and just spend money. Okay. Hey, that's a suitable answer, and I like that rather than some bullshit. That's amazing.

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or 20 best friends out to the boat and play spin the globe. And we would just spin the globe and just travel around the world on this giant yacht and party with your best friends and like go experience like every culture. I mean, that's what, that's like my ultimate dream. That's my honeymoon dream is that my honeymoon, I think will be,

A week with my spouse on a giant yacht. Well, this is my dream honeymoon. So like you have all the planning, you have the big party with your friends, like at the wedding. And then you spend a week with your spouse on the boat. And then the second week, all of your friends fly out, your best friends, and you get to party with all your friends. You've actually told me this. Yeah. I'm more of like an inner, like I'm a group setting person. So, you know, I think we have quality time.

at night and stuff, but I like to vacation with friends. So, okay. So my last question, my last question on this, cause we've got to save some for next week. I know. Yeah. But you know, we're asking anyways. Okay. So you've said, you know, many things and it's impossible to say so without, you know, the situation being like, you know, every girl anyways, what is your perfect proposal in your mind?

Well, it used... Alright, so it's on a glacier somewhere by ourselves. That's where I want to propose. You know what? That's amazing. Just fucking leave it there, please. Honestly, I hope a meme gets made of you.

on some random glacier in Antarctica. Except now, like, I'm going to take the girl out on the glacier and she's going to be like, he's fucking proposing to me. But it's like, oh no, this is just like the first time. When do you take a girl on a glacier? I've never been on a glacier. I think a glacier, I'm going to propose on a glacier. Can someone please make just like a two inch tall version of Craig?

and some girl on top of a glacier him on a knee and they're like somewhere in Antarctica Craig's proposing to Craig laughing

Okay. And that right there, ladies and gentlemen, is a peek into Craig Conover's mind. I don't know why that he fascinates me so much, but I have no doubt that he does the same to all of y'all. So we're going to make that a weekly thing because you, you, Craig, are you, you, you beautiful bastard. Yeah.

That that's amazing. So y'all, thank you so much for tuning in to a pillows and beer this week. We will be, we'll be back and stronger than ever with guests and funny things to talk about as we do. Cause it never stops at every time we think that it is going to stop. We're like, wait. And it just happens. So thank you so much. And we will see you soon.

And next week, our great friend Jordan Andino will be joining us. He's a, um, a personality chef on the food network. He has a couple of restaurants in New York city, and I can't wait to be asked more questions by Austin because I like sharing some of these layers to my onion, but, um,

Yeah. Most people don't seem to usually care. Anyway, from me and Austin at Pillows and Beer, we'll see you next week with Jordan Andino. And keep on keeping on.

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