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what's up besties welcome to clothes and beer november version third week whatever it is i'm joined by austin kroll the original bestie and of course our producer i've got a fire going and some of our sds holly candles and i'm on my couch so i've decided to move my studio down here for today what's up guys i like it man it looks cozy

You're in the Christmas spirit. And I think, I think that's the way to be. I've been slowly collecting Christmas things for, you know, I'm like Christmas begins after Thanksgiving, but no, I think, I think it begins now. We do our decorations on Thanksgiving. When do you guys think is the proper time to go all out? I'm like the outside decor. Yeah.

To go all out. Mid-November now. I would say...

To go all out, I still think the day after Thanksgiving, but I'm beginning to accrue things. And I'm beginning to get Santas from CVS and wreaths here. And I found this really cute wine holder. It's a Santa, and he's on his knees, and he's holding up something in his back, and it's a bottle of wine. And so you can put a bottle of wine there. The problem is Thanksgiving is late this year. So if you wait to decorate until...

thanksgiving you get three weeks of lights which is just after a full year that's true like waiting for christmas three weeks of christmas lights is just sad and depressing and i'm not even home enough to see them so no that's fair that's fair i think the third like traditionally i always decorated the day after thanksgiving um

I thought stores starting before Halloween was crazy, but I'm okay with after Halloween people going into... Yeah, I wish there was like... See, we did like Thanksgiving clothes this year, like fall pillows. I think December 15th is going to be my new date moving forward, but I don't have lights up and I'm kind of like sad. December 15th? That's late.

No, November. Sorry. I mean, because I want a month of it. I want a month of Christmas, but my community, I don't think anyone's got their lights up in my community yet. There's people that around me that have it, but it's just as weird. Some people had it like the first week of November and then the house down the street had, you know, Halloween decorations still up. And I'm just like, it's, I got conflicting shit going on. Yeah. Everyone. I think third weekend, third weekend.

November is probably okay. I haven't – I don't feel like the Christmas spirit yet, though. Sorry. Yeah. Why is Thanksgiving so fucking late this year? Because it's always like the last Thursday, right? And there's five Thursdays this month. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, man. The 28th is really, really late. It feels like it should be this Thursday. Well, that's why my birthday will never be on Thanksgiving because – I guess the leap year because my birthday is now this Thursday. Okay.

And for whatever reason, pretty much I hate it when it's like this because it always is pushed like the week before Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving week is always the best. I don't have work or anything going on, but now she's on some fricking random Thursday. Yeah. I mean, it is super late to Craig's point. I mean, Craig, I feel like we're both gone often and then we go home for Christmas. Right. So it's like, we don't spend Christmas at our house. So if you put up your tree after Christmas,

Thanksgiving, then you only have it up for three weeks and we're going to be gone for this weekend and that weekend. So then the 21 days turns into 11 days of being able to enjoy your lights and a tree. And that's kind of sad. So yeah, I guess now-ish. Shit, should I get a tree? Well, I think...

I'd probably put up, I'll probably put on my outside lights before I get my Christmas tree this year. I probably won't get Christmas tree until December 1st. You can't, we're going to be in Canada. Yeah, true. Yeah. But I haven't got my ways. No, I'm going to get. Craig, give me your person because I would love for them to also get. No, they, um, their services out there that, um,

deliver and set it up in your house now i just i really don't want to lose track of all my famous or sorry all of my favorite um like activities and chores and like doing the tree is one of my favorite things but maybe you know like whenever i whenever i have a a full-time home base like i have a feeling i'll do a lot of these chores myself

I watched my first Christmas movie the other day. It was a Netflix like Hallmark movie. It was terribly amazing. You know, I mean, it was a Hallmark movie with Gretchen Wieners from Mean Girls. I don't know what her actual name is. What was the name of the movie? It was literally called Hot Frosty.

And I think it's exactly what you think it would be. She magically makes a hot snowman come to life. Oh, that Lacey. What's her last name? And then, you know, charm ensues. That hallmark charm ensues. It was...

Yeah. I mean, you know exactly what you're getting into when you watch a movie like that. But anyways, I watched it. It was wonderful. I watched it on Friday night and it was wonderful to turn on the fire and sit around and watch a Christmas movie. So I guess I'm slowly getting into the Christmas spirit. And it's just so strange that it's so dark so early. I don't like it. I don't like it.

A Night Before Christmas is a good one with Vanessa Hutchins. It's the easier way. Does that just come out? No, it's old. I watch it all the time. Very funny. It's a knight that comes from the 1300s and he pops into modern day life and Vanessa Hutchins hits him with his car. He's like, what kind of steel horse is this? And then

Yeah, if you've never seen A Night Before Christmas, it's great. But honestly, for me, the Harry Potter series is so holiday-based or the backdrop is such holiday-themed. It's really doing it for me. So I've been slowly crawling through the Harry Potters only because for some reason they put me to sleep because they're the most relaxing movies ever. I don't know why.

And it's just got a good feeling. So I'm just slowly working myself. Which one are you on? Yeah. Which one are you on, Craig? I think you're going a little too slowly. Truth be told, I'm going to finish the third one tonight. Really? Well, that is a good one for like the Christmas time. Craig, you have been on this journey for six months. I know, but.

I'm a little more serious about it now. Is it just because you're like, I'm just going to watch it for 20 minutes and then you get bored? Or are you like 20 minutes and then you get put to sleep? No, it's because the time that I'm putting it on right now, I'm finding computer work to do and then I don't want to miss it. So I rewind it a lot. So it'll play through and then I'll watch it. Sure. Okay, well, spoiler alert.

Past the first two, it's not really Christmas heavy. The first two are so like cutesy holiday themed. Well, the fourth one is. And then the rest just get darker and darker and darker as they go. And so I would not refer to any of the others as a Christmas movie. But I think that one and two are. I think that one and two can be put into the Christmas category. I'm trying to think of what you're talking about, Nick, in four. Yeah.

They have the whole Yule ball. Oh, the Yule ball. Okay. Okay. I'll give it to you. Yeah. I, I, yeah. The first two are directed by a different director and he definitely is like, Oh, it's fun and cutesy and Harry learns magic. And there's a three headed dog and all these things that, that, that we're finding out. And then that just goes out the window.

which is actually kind of awesome all right man well um i'm kind of jealous of you for that you're you're but then again you can watch them a hundred times as everyone on here knows harry potter is the gift that keeps on giving um also craig i saw that you that that you sorted yourself which everyone on here is like we know that you've sorted yourself but you sorted yourself

again right because i saw that you did like an ask me anything and someone was like what's what's you know your house did you create like a new account and resource yourself because we've done this a handful of times you have to delete your account so so you deleted it and then you redid it yeah and you got sorted into a grip all right and with that we're going to take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back

Welcome back to this week's episode of Pillows and Beer. I am joined by Craig Conover and Mr. Nick Norris. We're just catching up, chatting about things that happened over the weekend. I was in the Bahamas this weekend and I want to tell everyone about

My ridiculous travels with Craig thing. I went to Eleuthera for the first time. It was great. Arbor Island was awesome. The wedding was beautiful. I'm an avid girls guy. Just because my heart is there. But when we were leaving, honestly, it's not even worth telling the whole story. But like the airport is primitive. We basically, once you get through,

checking in and stuff, you go to a construction trailer and wait for your flight, which is fine because they had a snack bar. Well, this lady comes in and she brings a karaoke speaker with her and she's reading the airline and pre-flight thing. And then at the very end, she's like, you know, we're

Excited to provide Wi-Fi on all airplanes now, except for yours. And you're like, oh, we're good. Well, thanks for just saying that. And then she's like, by the way, we need nine people to volunteer, not to fly home. And this is on Sunday.

She's like, don't worry, we will give you $1,000 and get you home sometime on Tuesday. And everyone's like, wait, Tuesday? Currently, the airport's closed on Monday. So they're asking people to stay until Tuesday. And, like, you know, people have kids and, like, animals and jobs. And so...

you know, everyone's kind of looking around for a while and it becomes very clear that no one's interested in this, in this deal. So I started to hear people start to panic a little bit and they're like, Hey,

I think the old people should stay. Like, I think the old people should volunteer. Like they don't have kids. They don't have work. Like this began to turn into like a mutiny a little bit. And so I was like, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am. This is like, she kept saying there's a weight imbalance, which I was like,

I just, I couldn't figure it out. I was like, did they put too much fuel on this plane in Atlanta before it flew here? Like a gross amount of fuel and they can't get permission to dump it or burn it off. And so I was like, man, what if like some of us volunteer to leave our luggage here? I was like, I don't care if I don't get my luggage till Tuesday, but like people have to get home. And she's like, that's just not something we can do. Well, I got an hour goes by and I guess, uh,

There's a law that once you get on the plane, they can't take you off, right? So once you're on, you can stay. They can't bring you off of the plane unless there's like a superseding reason. So we're just not boarding the plane. And all of a sudden she comes in and she's like, all right, everyone without seat assignments, raise your hand. And we're like, okay, cool. Those people are getting cut. Like, you know, it just is what it is. And at this point, you're just like some truer colors are coming out.

And they're like, all right, we're going to start boarding your flight. So they don't like there's no one's been volunteered yet. So we like like we start boarding the flight and they're like, all right, all carry ons have to get like red tagged and left at the side of the plane. And then the flight attendants are like, well, those bags aren't coming with us.

And you're like, oh, well, they didn't tell us that in there. And then everyone's like, well, I need to get my passport or my keys out of my carry on, you know, like and so they're like, OK, go do that. So now like people are like, yeah, but I want to bring my carry on on. And you're just like, guys, it's just a carry on. Just get on the plane. At least we all get to go home. So then you hear like at the front of the plane and they're like the passengers have all agreed to leave her luggage here.

And the couple in front of me who was super nice, but like they didn't, we hadn't met. They turned around and they're like, great job, Craig. Thanks for volunteering for us all to leave our luggage in the Bahamas. And I was like, Oh, how the heck is this going to fall on me? And everyone was like, thanks, Craig on the plane. And I was like, I said, my luggage, not everyone. So then there, everyone's like, wait,

What do you mean all luggage? And they're like, white tags aren't coming either. Like the captain has just ordered them to take every bag off the plane. Because I guess they couldn't subjectively take bags off. So at this point, we have an entirely empty plane. There's no suitcases, no carry-ons, unless it could fit under the seat in front of you.

And they come on and they're like, we're going to need four volunteers to stay in the Bahamas. And at this point, you're starting to be like, like Paige texted me. It was like, this is how Aaliyah died. Like, why do we still need four people to get off the plane if we don't have any luggage on here? Like, what's wrong with the plane that we're on? Yeah.

And so you see him taking all our bags off and loading them into this construction trailer in a Luthor, which the manager was off. So the manager definitely... Which is like a wood chipper. It's just like... The manager's definitely going to show up to work and be like, where did all these bags come from? I guess they were also the only person that could approve a higher voucher amount, but I was like, I feel like you have to phone them or someone. So then they're like, okay, the captain has agreed to...

leave everyone on. And you're like, I hope, and like I look and he's got an army lanyard on him. Like, all right, at least he's like a military pirate. But then our friends from the American flight that are sitting next to us, they haven't left either. And we're like, why are you guys stuck here? And they're like, Oh, they can't find the customs official to sign off on our paperwork. So we can't leave until they sign off on our paperwork. So, uh,

I started to realize that that's also why we're there. So another half hour goes by. Most people are just laughing at this point because we were all happy we're getting to the States. We're like, we can get home from the States. Just we'll drive home from Atlanta. I guess like they found the customs official somewhere. Like, I don't know if he was at lunch or something. And he finally signed our paperwork.

And we were able to leave. I mean, everything, everyone was super nice about it. It was just an absurd situation. So now everyone who has air tags, like our bags are still there. And like, it will be interesting to see if I ever see that bag again. Nick, from listening to that story,

Do you place blame on Craig? It sounds to me like Craig was the one who streamlined this, this. Oh, he definitely put the, the light bulb definitely went off and they said, it's like, oh yeah, we can just send everybody their bags. Maybe.

Yeah, yeah. It didn't sound to me like Craig was only offering up his bags to stay. It sounded like Craig was trying to make the executive decision like, hey, what if we all just leave our bags? Unless Craig's got 5,000 pounds of shit in his bag. I think it's better than not –

making the flight or making 10 people you know get off the plane there's only 70 people on the plane so leaving like over like one in seven people one in eight people would have had to stay and they would have had to like ferry back to the island like they're at the time everyone was saying like yeah like

Everyone was on board. If everyone got to fly home, we'd figure our stuff out later. The problem was is that we had one guy was going to Australia. Another like film crew was going to Japan and they're like, well, what are we going to do? Like we don't have any stuff. So it's like they almost, I mean, I don't know how you can do it, but you almost are like, okay, well,

On a scale of one to 10, sir, how important is your bag to you in the next 24 hours? And like the, you know, the film crew's like, it's a 10. I need my stuff. And then, and then Craig could have been like, yeah, my mind's like a one, like, like I can get my shit on Wednesday. And I feel like some people would be like, I really need my bag. So that's a bummer, but, but you did get home.

But it makes me think, Craig, kind of like what you said. You were like, people were beginning to show their true colors a bit, right? Because it is kind of like alarming that people were beginning to be like –

Leave the old people. Like that is fucked. That is like, they have nothing to live for. Leave them. You're like, Oh my God. So I was surprised to hear that. When I was flying home from London, right. We, we, we, we got placed in to Delta one and it was lovely. You know, Hey, you took care of us. And, and,

I always think this, by the way, but on this flight in particular, I'm boarding the plane and I bumped into someone like, oh my God, so sorry. Oh no, no, no. It's okay. It's okay. And then it's like, you've been putting up bags and everyone is all smiles and happy and champagne. And I'm like,

When would all of the smiles and just like, oh my gosh, of course, no worries. When does that stop? And when do like the true colors come out? And Craig kind of just described it, right? Because what if they were like, okay, everyone like in Delta One, four of you have to get off this flight. I feel like awesomely.

All of the niceties, all of the, you know, it would be like a cutthroat thing where people would be like, well, I'm more important than him and I'm more important than her and I'm not getting off this plane. And then you would really just start to see people change.

Yeah, you would start to see their true colors. I don't care about you, dude. Right. And like, that's what would happen. And I'd be saying that I'm sure to some people I'd be like, uh-uh, uh-uh. I've had this flight book for three months. Fuck out of here. And, and I, yeah, it's just, it's just interesting. Or you're saying you would go, you would, you would,

No, no, no, no, no. I would not go right into you. I would be silent at first and let the people throw out things. Because I know that people would right off the bat. And then you'd be like, whoa, I don't trust you. And I'm not going to trust you for this flight. And I cannot believe that you just said that. Jesus, dude. And then I feel like...

everyone you know has that fight or flight and and i'm just saying that if like it was going down and then you're like all right man flex in here like i'm gonna have to you know look out for myself at some point and not just like to get off the flight right because that's not like a fight or flight but i mean it's funny that uh leave the old people i was saying like i was like playing the line diabolical dude

At one point, I was like, all right, I'm going to be first in line. And then I was like, no, what if she starts to familiarize herself with me? And she's like, hey, this guy, do you mind staying back? So then I went in the bathroom for a little bit, chilled out, got out of her line of sight. How much would they have had to pay you to stay? What would have been your number? Coming back from this trip and having what I had to do today...

I mean, like 10 grand, probably. Because I found an American flight at 12 the next day. But I mean, I was asking people, like, what's your number? What's your number? And most people were like, they're not going to get there. But they never tried to go above 1,000. At one point, they're like...

The other flight was in there with us and they started to yell and they were like, there was like a silver flight and they were like $3,000 in a night at the Delano or whatever. Cause that was like the Delano was like the nice hotel. And we're like, yeah, get this guy. And then he's like, I mean, I'm on the silver flight, but I just thought I'd get it going in here or whatever.

That's funny. It was a bonding experience. You're like, leave Sarah. She just got fired and her boyfriend dumped her. She doesn't have any reason to go home. You're like, okay, what the fuck, Becky? Why the hell did you just pick me up? It was interesting to see which friends were texting who and being like, all right, what do you think? No, it was, we all made it back safely. Yeah, now they need to bring us our bags at some point. Also,

Then we'll go to commercial. What plane are our bags coming over on? If they couldn't even fit on our flight, which flight on Tuesday is going to have enough weight for all of our bags to come over? That means that they have to run a plane without passengers on it. You think they're going to do that, though? I don't know. Pretty much someone I think is going to have to call and bitch enough to where they go, yeah, we're going to get these bags over there.

Well, they can't just have like 50 fucking customers that they just bail. There's also no room at that airport for our bags. Right. They're going to put them on a little thingy and just ship them across. Well. I mean, fortunately, they let people get medicine and stuff out. But all right. Well, we'll take a commercial break and we'll be right back to talk about you guys coming to see us in Toronto and everything else. Welcome back, besties, to Pillows and Beer.

I'm Craig Cullinan over in Charleston, South Carolina with Austin Kroll and our producer Nick Norris. We are going to be live. Pillows and Beer live show, last one of 2024 in Toronto on December 2nd. And it's going to be awesome. So get your tickets at Pillows, the letter N, no, Pillowsandbeer.com, the word. And when you're listening to this, it's actually less than two weeks away. Yeah.

When everyone is listening to this. We're excited. Things are going to be cold. Things are going to be cold up there, I think. I can't wait. I cannot wait for that. Craig and I are coming in. Coming in hot. And fresh off the heels of Thanksgiving. I think we're going to have a really fun show. Or actually, I know that we're going to have a really fun show. But last podcast before season 10 drops, Craig. So...

There's that. Yeah. Yeah, come ask us questions. Take some pictures with us. It's going to be great. I want to bring up something. Austin texted me, which I shouldn't have been surprised about, but he said right before the Tyson-Paul fight, he was like, hey, put $2,500 on Paul for me. And I was like, well, I'm betting on Tyson. Well, that was before I read there was a million regulations in the contract. Yeah.

And we got to watch in the Bahamas. We airplayed to the TV. Everyone in there, I mean, it was awesome. Like, first round, second round. Well, apparently, according to the internet and some research I've done, in the contract, Mike Tyson was not allowed to throw uppercuts the entire fight, which is, that's not fighting Mike Tyson. And if the round, if the match didn't go past round three, he got, like, a fraction of...

his payout. And then they have like a video of

like Logan or I don't know. There's been some stuff online where you're like, okay, well, Logan throws like a right hook. Tyson dodges it. And then he could have done his signature uppercut, like knockout move right there. And he just didn't throw it. And he just didn't throw it. And Jake Paul was like, oh shit. And jumped and he looked visibly terrified. Like, holy shit. What have I done? I missed. And that should have been,

And I didn't even watch. I've just seen all the videos. Oh, I watched. Oh, I watched. The women were way better than the men. The women were actually a good fight. I heard that every fight was better than the men's fight. So I don't know what to believe, but I really...

Here's what I think. I think they knew he didn't have any leg strength left and it was they knew what the outcome was going to be. It was super calculated. It was going to they weren't going to ruin Mike's like dignity or anything like that. They were all going to get paid. Okay. What are you talking about? Because that pre interview where he tells the reporter that he loves him and walks away and just assless.

Just like the assless shot of Tyson. I was like, well, okay. Netflix reporter. You just totally put them on blast, but also Tyson should have known to not walk away with this bare ass. I don't think he cares. He didn't even get a butt ass naked and he wouldn't have given a shit. I mean, how could you have known that with, did you see his way in where he pretty much banana hammock? Yeah.

There's history with exotic animals. I think the Tyson is unhandy. He used to sleep with his tigers. He might still sleep with his tigers. Dude, he tried to pay a zookeeper to let him in the zoo so he could fight a gorilla. He saw that a gorilla was being mean to the other gorillas, and he was like, I don't like that bully. And he tried to give him like $10,000 to let him into the enclosure to fight the gorilla. Yeah.

I mean, that's amazing. Well, that's the point. That's the point. I think that, you know, the zookeeper was like, I'm doing this for you. Okay? I'm doing this so he does not actually kill you. You psycho. Mike would have punched him once. The gorilla would have looked at him and then torn him from limb to limb. I don't think people realize how strong they are. Oh my god, dude.

Yeah, Craig, I guess I was surprised that you were like, no, man, Tyson. And then I was like, wait, wait a minute, man. What does Craig know that I don't know? And I was like, Craig's read the script. Well, when Drake put $300,000 on Mike, I was like, ooh, sorry, Mike. Where you could just see his hatred in his eyes when he got his foot stepped on. And he was like, I'm going to kill this guy. But then...

There's some video of some stuff might have been whispered in the ear. It was all WWE. That whole weigh-in with the slap. That was all fake. No. I don't know, man. I thought 13... Not if you read the history that Mike Tyson has with his feet. He can barely walk. And he was only wearing booties. And the guy rolled up onto his foot. But he calmed down after the second round. It was what it was, but...

It was fun. I didn't watch the documentary, but... Which documentary? There was a documentary on the fight. Oh, okay. There was also one just on Jake Paul. I didn't know which one you were talking about. I mean, give or have. He's a big dude. What about after the fight? He challenged Conor McGregor, though, to a no-weight class to terminate an MMA fight. And I was like... Well, finally. He won't do it. Oh, dude, Jake did it.

Connor said he would do it if he got under 170 and Paul was like no but he's like but I will fight you in an MMA match but like I get to stay at whatever weight I'm at so like not being a trained MMA fighter I don't know how much weight will come into play with a super experienced MMA fighter like Conor McGregor I would rather watch Barstool fucking rough and rowdy

Yeah, I'm kind of with you. Until he fights a person. And it's hilarious. So no, there's another thing I discovered on YouTube. It's called, it's big in Europe. It is phone booth boxing. So literally. That's crazy. It's two guys at a phone booth just beating the hell out of each other. Yeah, that's a little like the rednecks of West Virginia fighting in rough and rowdy is, I mean, I've always been a fan.

Because what? I mean, they win like a couple thousand and they're just like these unconditioned idiots who get out there like, I hate you. No, I hate you. And then they just realize that boxing is a really tough sport and they get worn out after like 60 seconds. And they're like, shit, man, I can't fight anymore.

and i think they're uh i mean they're sanctioned fights which is crazy you and i watched in bermuda i know we did i know we did actually we were yeah yeah yeah we were like quarantined for like you know 24 hours and then yeah yeah we watched rough and rowdy um yeah i didn't watch okay but how about this when i was getting an uber home from dinner that night the uber driver

full on had it pulled up on his phone while so so he was watching and driving us and i was like while you safely got me home if there would have been an accident like i could have sued you to the high heavens right i mean that was i mean you're gonna sue uber without it

That was like the, the, the guy just had this fight pulled up. Yeah. That's crazy. His phone. And like was playing the sound in, you know, the car. And I was like, the only reason I didn't say anything is because I was like kind of interested too. And like, I kind of wanted to see you. Like, I thought that it was the main, I thought that it was the main event. And then I got home and realized that. The main fight didn't start until like 12, 15. I know. It was so stupid.

anyways wait what what were you what level uber were you in i was in a premiere man he he was driving like a tesla or something like a like a tesla cv and oh what's he using i would i heard someone was on his phone it was full where the guy um used full driving the other day in a tesla

The guy just wasn't driving. It was like self-driving. He had it in self-driving mode. What would you say to somebody who had their car in self-driving mode while you were in it? You know, they'd be a tough one.

It'd be tough to speak up unless like something like weird happened, you know, like if something like, like, because you don't, it's not a fair position to put someone in. That's why that's the thing is like, once you're in that situation, what's, is there a right thing to do? Yeah. If you have a strong personality, you should probably say, Hey, I'm not comfortable with you, you know, using self-driving mode, but then like,

It's easier said than done. I don't think I would be able to unless I would just be strung out the whole time. And I'd be like, Uber, this isn't fair that you let people do this. Well, basically that's what happened to me. That's like what happened to me where I was like, I'm not going to say something unless he's like, Oh shit. You know? And then it's like a close call. And then I'll jump in and be like,

dude, you can't be watching this fight while you're driving me home. It's incredibly dangerous. So I was kind of waiting for something to happen. I think I would have just gone now. I would have just said, dude, why don't you pull it? I'm going to change my... This is fine. Just let me out here. And I would have gotten another Uber. Yeah. I think that's safer than saying anything because they're in control of you at that moment. They are driving this little death mobile thing

You know, they're like, they can get angry. They could, you know, all of a sudden they're giving you like a, like a one star and you're like, you're the one who's fucking watching while you're driving. They could get angry. And like you said, so I think I would just have them pull over and, and get out of the car, which is such a pain in the ass. I got in a fight with an Uber driver in Austin, Texas.

And it was the last time that I was... I told you this, Craig. And then you're like, okay, well, what man level were you using? And I was like, I don't know, like an Uber Comfort. And you're like, why are you using an Uber Comfort? And I was like, I don't know, because the other one was 20 bucks more. I had...

a pizza in the car. And, and, and so she asked me to not eat. And I was like, okay, I'm just going to finish this last. And then the guy, you know, threw it in my mouth. And then she was like, the disrespect, the disrespect from, and I was like, oh shit. And I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Then, then she was like, you privileged POS. And I was like, all right,

I was like, just pull over. She was like, oh, I am. I am. And basically pulled over on the side of the highway, Craig. And...

And she was like, just the privilege and the disrespect. I was like, I'm not eating in your car. But yes, it's best for everyone that you let me out. And I was on the way to a flight. Yeah, and I was on the way to a flight. And I was like, I would rather miss my flight, right? It was one of those things where I was like, that's right. You know what? I want out of this car just as much as you want me out of this car. And then I was like, you know, I didn't know that like a RAV4 was a comfort car anyways.

And then, and then the funniest thing too, was that I, I got out of the car and, you know, she pulls off. Right. And, and, and, and I'm looking at her and, and I'm like, Ooh, that's a dead end. You have to come back by me.

and this is going to be awkward as hell for you because I know that you don't want to come back by me. And so she had to like slowly creep on past me and, and, you know, shed her tail between her legs. And I was like, I was like, I'm not going to say anything. Your bag out. Yeah. Oh, she went to the back and kind of like, you know, yeah, I was like, I got him. I got him. Thank you very much. Dude. That's insane. Refrain from using language, you know, because I was just like,

You're like, what is your problem, lady? Yeah, yeah, 100%. I was like, what is your deal? You're driving Uber today. What time was it? It was at like 2.30 in the afternoon. Maybe earlier? Well, on certain levels, you're allowed to take your personal issues into the car with you. I just feel like it's not safe. I, yeah. Smoked cigarettes? Yeah.

Yeah. So that's when I stopped using anything less than Premiere, Craig. Scary. It can be. Yeah. I mean, it can be. Fun times. Right. I just wanted to spice it up a little bit, you know? I wonder what your Uber rating is. I'll tell you right now. What is your Uber rating? I'm curious. Uber.

Guys, I don't just go around yelling at Uber drivers. In fact, I always like overly, right? You just always have a pizza in your lap. Yeah, exactly. Even fried chicken. Mine's a 4.82. What's mine? Mine's a 4.91. Nick, pulling it up. 4.94. Suck it. Wow. Yeah, but I've thrown up in Uber before.

I wish you could see your total amount of rides. Oh, can you not? The amount of rides, the amount of money that we have collectively given Uber Craig is probably sickening. Oh, it's a big reason. Would you pay for a service? Like Uber service? Not like Uber Gold or anything, but like if like $300 a month or something like that?

to just take... For like free Uber. Yeah. I mean, I spend that and going to and from the airport in New York. That's really the only place I Uber now because I...

I used to Uber a lot because I was drinking at every event. And now it's kind of like a cheat. I'm like, you know what? I can like leave and get my car. And now I rent cars a lot too. But I'm always Ubering in New York City and I spend a lot of money there. Have you done Uber's rentals before? I'm curious. What does that mean? No. It's like you can just like rent a car through Uber and like that kind of thing.

or you can have like a card like rent a car for like some companies also do you get like you know a ferrari or something like that drop well yeah that would be cool like an exotic rental the problem with subscription-based memberships like that is the quality tends to go down because there's no incentives for the driver um because the pricing's constant like once you pay your 300 a month

Like, that's it. What if it's just like a tier? There's regular Uber, Uber Gold, then like Uber, you know, whatever, premium, where it's a flat fee, but... And you get a certain amount of rides. Correct, yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, people are already spending a ton of money on Uber and Lyft. I really should use Lyft more because it's on SkyMiles, but I tend to just open the Uber app first.

Yeah, I agree. And now I just went into like a rabbit hole of why my Uber rating is so low. I was like, wait a minute. I'm trying to find all these star ratings. You said you're 4.8? 4.82. What is a... Oh, you probably got a one star from that one lady. Oh, well, 100% because I got reached out to by the Uber team.

But I knew that she was filing a complaint on me. So I filed a complaint on her before they even reached out. And I was just like, listen, listen. What did you tell them? How'd that conversation go? I basically told them what I told you.

and very colorful uh you know way and so anyone that's listening the reason we say take a premiere if you can is because then you can do whatever you want in the car everyone treats each other with respect obviously but it's a professional driver and it's more of like a personal driver where like if you need to eat your lunch in the back of the car you can like if you have a drink in your hand you can't so like the more you pay the less rules you have to follow um

because it's not like a personal, it's just, it becomes more commercial instead of more like personable. This is kind of crazy though. If your rating, if your rating as an Uber rider falls below 4.6, they can deactivate your account. That's a 4.6. Yeah. But that seems great. Like, okay. Yeah, man. That seems like a high rating still.

ever give less than five stars and like but some people like are like old school or give like four or three i just i've given four a few times that i used to always i used to always just get out of the car and be like hey man five star for five star you know just boom boom boom you know every time that i got out of the car i would always say that it was like a mantra um it was like all right dude five star five star but i mean now that there are so many ratings i always just say cheers

I would be saying 4.6. That if you don't Uber as much as we do, I mean, we have thousands of rides on Uber. If you don't, that's gotta be a reason to get rid of like college kids or something.

That's got to be that kind of policy. Okay, questions. I'm really into someone, but they seem to be playing hot and cold. One minute they're all over me, the next they're distant. Is this a red flag or just a case of bad timing? Yes, it is a red flag. Do you not make others a priority who do not make you a priority? Well said. Well said. I'm curious...

I'm curious how old that this person is who wrote the question and how old the person is that they are writing it about. That one was a DM. She looked like 25, maybe 26. Yeah. That to me sounds like you're on a roster of his. Yes. That's what it is. He has a couple options out there that he is entertaining. Yeah.

And sometimes you're the top and other times you're at the bottom. Oh, that's the same. Don't make someone a priority who treats you like an option.

There you go. Great. Is that what it is? Yeah. You know, and like, if you are expecting to be the only one on his roster and he's the only one on yours, then, then probably should figure that out. But like, if you've got a roster too, and you don't care, but it sounds like you do care because you wrote us a question asking, and I would say deuces. That is what I would say. And Craig just said, Oh no, he's back. Yeah.

I think that answers that. Okay. Settle a debate for my friends and I. You answered the last one about sex on a first date. What is the proper date I can hear? My friend went on a second date with a guy and they ran into a group of his friends at a bar and ended up hanging out with them the rest of the night. She got annoyed but never said anything. I said she's in the wrong because she does like the guy. But should have said something because I bet he didn't even consider it.

What do you think? Consider what? I think they're saying that she wanted to like go home and have sex with him, but instead they hung out with his friends. To me, that means he likes you. Um, but everyone's different. Like if he was excited to see his friends while with you and included you in the conversation and introduced you as his date, um,

It feels like he jumped right into like you being in the girlfriend mode and probably didn't probably wasn't just going to dinner with you for sex. If that was the case, he would have just been like, hey, guys, good to see you. Let me go do something real quick. That's my take on it. What's all? I just think it's funny how how quickly you're like, well, I'm taking it that she just wanted to go home and have sex with them. But then they ran into his friend.

She just wanted to cut straight to the chase and then they ran into his friends. Okay, I took it as...

See, I didn't get enough context here because maybe they ran into his friends and then he began to pay attention to them and not her. And then she's like, okay, well, we're on a date here. Let's finish this up. So I don't know if the guy then just focused all of his attention onto the friends because

Just because you run into the friends doesn't mean that sex is off the table. It's just later, right? So after hanging out with the friends, then you guys can go home together. But maybe it sounds like to me that he kind of put his friends in the priority line and put you in second place. And then you're like, what the freaking heck? I thought that we were hanging out tonight. Right. So that's what happened. And that's...

Well, I'm confused as to what happened after you hung out with a friend because there's been plenty of time that you run into your friends and you all have a great night together and then that's not the end of your night with the person.

So I don't think it's like, oh man, this guy sucks. He probably was like, oh cool, my friends are here and maybe she doesn't like his friends or maybe they didn't go home together afterwards or maybe he put her on ice to focus on them. I need more context with why she was there.

disappointed like we're pretty simple creatures we would just be like hey cool there's my friends yeah like hey guys and i'd be like hey like we don't like you and hang out with them and then i'd be like man wasn't that such a fun night and they're like no i hated it it was our date night i'm like oh i thought we had like a 10 out of 10 night and she's like no yeah but to me you're

like actually dating because you've spent enough time together and like say you have a special date night cut out

because like life's busy and you have work and stuff. To me, that is what dating me for the first three months looks like though, is being a part of my life with my friends and like me taking you places that I like and stuff. Like there's not a lot of, because to me, the solo time that we spend together, you know, at home or texting or calling. But again, I wasn't doing traditional like

meeting on a dating app which that's crazy that's traditional now and saying like let's go to dinner like i wasn't ever on like a first date like at dinner i think we need more context but um to me it sounds like he wanted you to hang out with his friends which should be

Which should be like a flattering thing. Do you have anything for us, Nick? Any comments? No, I was going to just agree with you guys that if a girl, if a guy after like two dates or whatever, as you know, hangs out, like isn't shying away from a group of friends that he runs into, that's a good sign for you.

Yeah. If he's not like, like, all right, we got to go before they come over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He like dips and he's like, Hey, I'm with the boys now. And she's like sitting in a stool in the corner. No, I'm saying that's a problem. Like if they were like, yo, Tyler, Tyler. She's like, they're calling your name. He's like, I don't know those guys. We got to get out of here. That's a red flag.

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