Season 3. Episode 12: Lectures from Whitney Sudler-Smith
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Alright, what is going on everybody? Welcome to this very special, very funny episode of Pillows and Beer. I'm here as always with my best buddy Craig. We're in the Hall Wine Studio and we do have

A dirty dog here who is looking like he doesn't want to be here, but I know he does. He looks fantastic. He does. He looks great. Whitney, your beard, your distinguished gentleman. We just raged to do Hosh Mash by Rammstein. How do you feel, buddy?

Why do you sound like a 70s kind of like radio FM DJ? Like, hey, we're here at... That's right. Coming at you. That's exactly what it is. I feel really good about that, and thank you for saying so. My voice... Coming up next, the top 10 countdown coming your way after this. And actually, I'm interested in what your top 10 countdown would be because we just listened to Rammstein, okay? Which everyone knows. Yeah. Oh, man.

And Whitney probably wants like... Whitney is weirdly impressed right now that we have the ability to do that. You kind of like, you were very laconic before. You can look that up. And then suddenly you were like, hey! Then suddenly you became like this alter ego, this super DJ motherfucker. Because we're on the air with WB, Austin and Craig. This is what our life would have been if you didn't say, hey, you guys have faces for TV. Ha ha ha!

Because we kind of have faces for podcast. Yeah, podcast is that like interim level. I mean, you're right. I don't want to be here. Hey, wait a minute. Listen to this. You ready? This is really good. We got a whole soundboard of...

Nope, that was the wrong one. That's when we're going to kill you later, Whitney. Do you have like a toilet flush sound effect? We can add it. We should. That's a really good one. That's lame, which is everything you guys say. You need like a toilet flush sound effect. And then every time that Whitney speaks, we just go...

Gosh almighty. Did you see what Whitney's outfit is? Whitney, you look great, but... Hey, what's up? What's up with the tennis shoes? Tell me. What's up with the new balances? I know that you think it's like a new thing. I know you do. Tell me. Is this a question? Yes. It looks good. No, it doesn't. Well, you can't get a camera on it, so... Yeah, it's fine. Maybe I'm not wearing new balance. Maybe he's wearing socks. Whitney, what was your first time on camera ever? God.

Like, were you a teenage? Like, were you in the entertainment world as a teenager? Do you have these questions? No. No, because I'm curious. You don't have questions that wind up at all. You're just a fascinating person. I saw you in the documentary, but you were in your 20s. This is not like some talk show. I mean, why the fuck am I here? I mean, basically. Because you're one of our favorite people. Two years ago, you were like, Whitney, please call. I'm like,

God, it's mighty as hell. Like, what the fuck are these guys? Like, you're not legally... You can't talk about the show. It's like, what can these guys talk about? Like, you know nothing about... Everything and everything else. You know nothing about literature, the humanities, film. The show's not our whole life, and that's what we try to prove here. I mean, what are you talking about? Like, what you saw on ESPN last night? What the fuck do you guys... What do you know? What do you...

By the way, who's listening to this? All of our best friends. All of our besties. What exactly is interesting that you guys can talk about? Just tell me. What do you talk about? I've never listened to this thing, and I'm not going to after this. This is almost more interesting than anything we've ever done. Whitney being Whitney. You guys on a podcast, it's like if you've got two goats on a farm...

There's new kind of like futuristic technology where you can like transcode their thoughts into speech. It's you idiots on a fucking podcast. That's, I mean, that's, that's quite literally what we're shooting for. Um, we hear, what do you talk about? It's like, um, we're here to prove like a monkey trying to fuck a football. It's not good there. We're here to prove that the show is not our whole life.

It is your whole life. Call Spade is paid. What the fuck? When this show ends, you guys are done. You're going to go back to your beer distributor. You're going to go back to arguing traffic tickets. How about this? How about this? Craig, it's a bad word. Craig just made a million dollar deal with his pillows. How do you feel about that?

Congratulations. That's great. Thanks, man. Oh, a very nice thing from you, Whitney. I want to see the contract. I want to see an actual net transfer of a million dollars, and I'll believe it. You'll see nothing and like it. Yeah. We're way past proving stuff. Sorry. Oh, anyway. I met you 10 years ago. We're going to cut to a break.

We're right. We'll be right back. Yeah. Just kidding. Anyways, we're back and we're going to talk about Whitney's stupid Honda hat. What do you... I just...

Whitney, this is like everything that gets cut. Whitney, Whitney, what do you want to talk about? Ask us questions. I just want to observe you guys. Okay, fine. How about you shut your pie hole and let me and Craig talk and then you can jump in whenever you have something snarky to say, which is every what? 13 seconds. Austin, how was your week? Yeah. How was your weekend? How was New York? I saw you were singing karaoke up there. Thank you, Craig, for asking me about my weekend. I can finally get away from Whitney's just absolute boldiness and

It's not a word. So. Yeah, we got to watch our vocab. Let's put a little kibosh on Whitney. Wait, what do you put me typing in there? Are you like fed questions or what? Oh, correct. Correct. Don't show them. Don't show them. No, no, no. That's our secret sauce. Sorry, bro. It doesn't matter. Do you want to produce right now? You can click on which camera you would like. We can watch Austin right now.

You can watch me. Look how cool you look. Oh, okay. Yeah. I look fucking... You do look rad. Yeah. Let's guess... Proper studio guest. Do you want to talk about literature, Whitney? Is that what you want to talk about? I want to hear Whitney judge... Listen, listen, listen. I'm judging you. Just talk about artwork. Austin. Is that what you want? No. I want to hear Whitney judge your choice in karaoke songs because I saw you did karaoke this weekend. I want to hear what Whitney thinks. Next. Another question.

Why? Another topic. Okay, well, you haven't given us a topic. What is wrong with you? Seriously. It's up to you to produce this right all the way here. You just showed up. You know any topics or any ideas you talk about. So you're just going to come and wing it? You're going to show up and wing it. That's what I do the best.

Mark Maron, like these guys who have really successful podcasts, they have like been researched and they have questions and well, we didn't know you were going to be a guest until like 30 minutes ago. So we're just going on our life. We're just going to kind of like literally just winging it. I didn't know half-assed.

I just asked you when your first time on camera was. We're like, what is interesting about Whitney other than his mom's money? And the answer was nothing. So we don't know what else to say about you, Whitney. Without me, you'd not be on the show. Lick my nuts. And that's the first true thing you said tonight. I don't know why you guys are... This isn't Southern Charm. We don't have to sit here and argue. That's him. He's provoking. There we go. Little A. Some like back and forth. Little David Frost.

Do you know who that is? No, you don't. Okay. Frost Nixon? I thought he was a poet. That was like a presidential fucking candidates. Frost Nixon? Frost Nixon. Okay. So what about them? David Frost. He was a famous BBC interviewer. He landed the first big... What about BBC? But he did a series of interviews with...

Richard Nixon in the 70s before your time and my time. I watched the Frost-Nixon documentary. Yeah, that's right. Saying that like our contretemps was like Frost-Nixon. Oh, great. Now he's cursing at me. I just learned a lot about Nixon, actually, that he was a lot more popular than people realize. He was. As a president. He's the most popular president ever elected. He won the presidency twice. And the guy that basically said... And he almost won in 1960. Yeah, the guy that basically said that the CIA wasn't involved...

In the assassination, Ella basically took his spot as president. It's basically all, it's kind of crazy. Wait, what was that? It wasn't Nixon fucking Watergate. Yeah, but basically they're saying now like the people that investigated the office, like four of the five people that raided the office were all CIA operatives. There's some crazy conspiracy stuff. Yeah, it's a conspiracy. Yeah, what? I mean like, what he did today. Whitney, you've only known Craig for 10 years, right? You've only known Craig for 10 years, right? We've only known Craig for 10 years over each other.

How long have you known Craig? What? When we do the pilot? 2011, 2012? Okay, so this is interesting. People want to hear this. How did you come about and cast Craig? Go. It's a very good question. Yes. Thank you. We had already cast Thomas Ravenel and Shep.

And why don't you tell people what the original concept of the show was? You can start from ground zero and fucking go pontificate. You're going to have to let him answer a question, though. Answer the first question he asked. That was great. Right, right. So we need to kind of round out the cast. And we didn't have any strong women. I think we were pursuing Cameron Eubanks. And I figured, okay, Thomas and Shep, even then, 2012, they were...

Kind of, they weren't the best looking or a bit old. The worst now. However, and we're like, we kind of need like a, kind of a douchey hunk. And so I go to these girls that were helping and knew Charleston because I didn't really know Charleston living in LA and this and that. And I said, look, who's kind of like a post-fraternity douchebag with good looks that you know that you think would be good for the show? And in unison, they go, Craig Conover. Yeah.

I was like, okay. And so we put you and Corey on tape. Corey. Austin knows Corey now. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone knows Corey now. Apparently. Yes. Yeah. It was on your whatever. Cinema. Very good. You and your fucking ASMR. People don't like it. What is that? What is ASMR? He likes to listen to people eat into microphones.

He loves it. Woody loves it. So we were doing interviews. We had a camera set up, and basically the process is I'd shot a pilot, which got everyone interested. All the cast worked and didn't work. So then we need to do kind of sold the concept. We need to do a character reel of many possible people who could or couldn't work for the show.

We put maybe 20, 30 people on this reel. And one of them was Mr. Con over here. He showed up and he's a bit stiff at first. I think we were filming. Yeah, I was nervous. In the foyer, my house. I was like, Craig, hold on. I poured you a triple vodka on the rocks. And we have it on tape. You take a sip. You're like, he downed it. And suddenly he just fucking lit up. He hit the beats. It was like something turned on.

And there's something to when you cast these shows, there's a level. It's hard. People think, oh, yeah, and then we can come on and do this. No, you can't. You have to have charisma.

Bit of a kind of backstory. Looks, be comfortable in front of the camera, like coming in cold, never even having done acting classes or anything, and just show up and like be good and funny or vulnerable or whatever, you know, on cue. And Craig did that. He fucking nailed it. He was amazing. Thanks, buddy. And we were like, wow. He kind of blew everyone away, and he was comfortable and...

and kind of took command of the camera. And that's a rare trait. People who work in unscripted, you got to have this trait. Hit the clap button, Craig. Because like you see. There we go. There it is. Well done. Anyway, he was just great and he kind of nailed it. And anyway, Corey came on and he was good too. But I remember at the time, you guys were like 23, 24. Very similar people. Yeah. Yeah.

What ended up happening to Corey? Well, I know what happened to him now, but what happened to him then? Why didn't you? Well, I think he came across as a bit younger for some reason. And Craig was the youngest on the cast at the time. He was 24, 23. Now he's kind of blossomed. You know what's crazy? I was Shep's age when Shep started the show. Really? I think about that stuff sometimes too, but now...

if you think about it, Craig is the youngest man on the show. Jesus. Yeah. So Corey, basically they were just like, you know, we already have this young guy, this young frat. Right, right, right. So why do we need two of them? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, you've gotten kind of like spread your wings and you're no longer that frat. Wow. This is Whitney. Yeah.

He's about to turn his attention to me and just destroy me. Well, and I couldn't see it at the time. And it actually, me and Corey broke up. We didn't talk for like three years. He moved to Europe. Well, he was kind of like, I remember he was pissed because like you got the part and he didn't. He moved away. Well, we were kind of, you know, neither of us thought that that was even a possibility. We just thought like we were doing it together because everything we had done. Well, we did. So then that's when Shep, they always use that clip of him jumping in the pool and his like mankini thing.

That was part of the pilot that we shot at Weird House two hours outside of, I think it was in Camden. It was like six guys and a whole bunch of girls. And I just remember I was in Walmart or Target and Whitney called me and he's like, we got green lit. And I was like, what the hell does that mean? Like, you know, I had zero experience in entertainment.

And you're like, it means that we're like good to go. And I was like, what the fuck do you mean we're good to go? I'm like giving up basically my like law career. I like I didn't realize that. Sorry. What is that?

Is that my phone? Austin, you do know we're doing a podcast right now, right? No, he's texting. He can't. Sorry, I'm going to mute him. So anyway, I remember you calling me and saying we're greenlit. And even though I didn't know what that meant, I knew it was about to get real. And when cameras showed up is basically when Corey left. I remember coming home from class one day and he had packed all his stuff. No way. I didn't know that. Yeah, he didn't say bye. That's too bad. Look, I like Corey. He's a Casey Kasem asshole.

Keezy Gaze-em. Okay, I didn't know that. Top ten countdown. It all worked out. Obviously, he did Winter House with us. But yeah, it was a crazy time. And then the first scene I ever filmed was... I remember, so when we got greenlit,

Called Shep, who was... I don't know where the fuck he was. Probably not at Target. He was like, bro, I'm doing this noodle franchise out of... It's a terrible imitation. He was like, I'm doing this noodle franchise out of Atlanta. I'm like, okay. And he was like, man, I don't know if I can do the show. I'm really working hard on this franchise. I'm like, dude, this fucking thing is going nowhere. And then sure enough, he kind of waffled a bit. And then it was like...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I'll do the show. So what, you know, we had this thing and, you know, the idea was we don't want to do housewives kind of show. I wanted to be kind of comedic, funny, ironic, absurd. And that's what we thought going into it.

Well, I mean, we do have the most guy fans out of any show on Bravo. That is true. And that was one of the goals of the network. I mean, those vestiges from the early days, I think, still occasionally poke through. I don't know what that means, but what does vestige mean? Just look it up. I continue to disappoint Whitney. Someone went to law school. Whitney, you tried so hard the first two years, at least. I mean, you continue to try hard. No, no. The first one, because I wanted the thing to do well. Remember, we were on the Kennedy's yacht. Yeah.

The presidential yacht. Whatever the name of the president's boat is. So I remember we were on this boat first season, and the producers were like, Craig, you should spray champagne. On Whitney? No, just spray it. And so I did it. Who said that? I didn't know that. And Whitney freaked out and was like, this show is not like Jersey Shore. You fuck. That's kind of amazing, by the way, because...

Whitney, oh, man. Well, no, no. We were on this boat. Kind of like Craig said. It was JFK's yacht. Man, did you try those first two seasons. I tried really hard. You tried to keep it in check. He tried to be funny and innocuous. But that being said, we're all proud of its success. Nine years going in. Season nine, buddy. You know we got 100 episodes last year? We hit 100, and I remember there's not a lot of shows on that.

you know, that have been on air that hit a hundred episodes. I mean, shit, how many Bravo shows have hit nine seasons? I don't know. Not a lot. Nick, why don't you look it up for us?

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How many shows have hit nine seasons?

But yeah, thanks for bringing us on the journey, Whitney. It's been fun. I remember those early years. We'd go back to your house all drunk and you'd show me the art on the walls. And I'd be like, this is, I mean, I cultured up quick or I basically became more cultured in that first year of filming Southern Charm than I had my entire life.

I mean, he was definitely kind of a neophyte. It took Michael a while to come around. I mean, and then after a while, like, he was, like, so impressionable, and you could fuck with him. And suddenly, on season five or six, that's when Craig kind of, like, I'm a man now. I'm taking over. And he started fucking with shit and fucking people. Fucking people. Imposing his will, as they say. And he kind of started comporting himself on the show. He was like...

He grew up on the show. Wow. You've watched him blossom from the pale skin. Okay, my favorite thing. My favorite thing was that Craig used to wear that

He used to dress horribly. He still does. The French cuffs? No, the French cuffs and the metal watch. It was such like a just graduated law school look. Whitney, I still have the watch downstairs that you gave me. Oh, yeah. To fake Audemars. Wait, this dynamic, why is he in the driver's seat? It seems like you're like secondary in this whole thing. Well, this is Craig's house.

That's Craig's house. I'm kind of a nerd with this stuff. I like it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Craig's like in front of the board. He's in front of the panel, and he hits the buttons. I was sitting over there at first, and then I had to switch it up because of all the wires. Normally, he boasts it there, but still, Craig's hitting all the buttons. Seems like you're like the co-pilot. He's the... Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah.

Whitney is born for reality TV or born to make reality TV. Just a born natural instigator. And it's amazing. And we all... And we love him for it. And it's true that I do... God, on the way over here because...

I was doing something tonight and then I showed up at Whitney's house. Wait, guys, you're talking. You're looking at your fucking text messages. No, I'm about to go to music for a commercial break. It's so distracting. You're supposed to be engaging. Okay, man, let's go do what? High level. Let's go to commercial and then we'll come back. We'll come back. I was making sure I had your song. I'm going to go into this thing about Whitney. That was really fun tonight. There we go. Turn it up.

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Availability may vary by market. Welcome back to Jazz 404 FM. The station when you want to get sexy. I'm here with my guest, Mr. Craig Conover on the bones. What the hell?

It makes sense. Keep going. Keep going. It makes sense. My sexy DJ voice. Austin wants you to get to him. Have you guys done like a- God damn it. He didn't get to me. It's all Austin wants. Fuck you, Whitney. So I'm just curious. Have you done like a demographic survey of who actually listens to this thing or ages or- Your mom listens. Nick, read us our demo, please. Who the fuck would listen? Who would waste whatever, 45 minutes to listen to this?

Shit. It's the same as watching our show. It's an escape. It's the same demographic as our show. It's a little younger, but actually... You'd be surprised. It's about 35% is like 35 to 55. Any males on Pillows and Beer? No. We got about 16 to 17% are guys. All right. Guys, get a life. Sorry. Okay.

We've brought Whitney on to roast all of us, including those listening. It actually brings me joy to hear Whitney just be the cynical person that he loves to be. Whitney, remember how you said that you played into being the cynical asshole? No, no, no. You just are the cynical asshole. I never got attributed or I came up with pillows and beer. That fucking, that is true. Wait, I want to hear this story. I want to hear it too.

Roll the tape, motherfuckers. On what? Remember, it was like, hey, I bought two pillows and beer. I did the toast, and you took my toast and made it into this podcast in your name. I hope we did. I don't think that happened. We could see the Southern Charms season six or seven where the fuck I said that. And you were making fun of us? No, no, no. I should sue for trademark infringement. Whitney, I wish you would, to be honest. I should. I should fucking sue you.

Or season 9. Winnie. I'm suing. It's going to be awesome. Episode 284, Whitney sues the boys. I did coin Pillows and Beer, 100%. Well, thank you. It can roll the tape. And we brought it up before. That's why you're at work. We're honoring you today. No, he has his look. It's 100% true. Just tell us when it happened. What scene was it? I toasted you. I said to Pillows and Beer.

Where'd you toast us? It was on the show. Ever toasted us? I don't remember when. All he ever does is spit out my beer and calls us talentless hacks and just shits all over us. But yet, it's all out of love. Well, what's funny is, actually, I know some other podcasts that took people making fun of them on their show and made it into their tagline. So maybe that's what we did. Well, that's what Craig did with his pillow business.

Quite literally. That's what happened. That's true. And then you kind of ran through the fire, too, for the beer. Yeah, 100%. It's at the behest of Whitney's mother. I love the pillow business. It's amazing.

Someone who's so lazy and dispassionate and pretends to be really into sewing. I mean, such a farce. But it's not, though. But it's not, though. Yeah. And that's what makes it even better. When are you going to have us in one of your feature films? That's what I want to do. We're working on that now. Do you want to tell them? When it happens. Oh, yeah.

Someone recently told me don't throw stuff into the universe before it's concrete because then you invite other people to shoot it down with negativity. I put this here for you. I put this here for you. You don't want to jinx it. What is it? It's like a... Yeah, you don't want to jinx it. It's a... It's a grind. Sure. It's a grinder. For the devil's lettuce.

Sometimes we eat edibles before doing this. No, look, I'm impressed with you guys. You throw it together even though you wing it every time, but you have a successful endeavor outside of the show. And, you know, look, this is not... This is fun.

It's a bit, you know, kind of having a laugh, bullshitting. I mean, I thought, like, what are we going to talk about? He fucking gets it, Craig. He gets it. What are we going to talk about with these assholes? It's not. It's just a reprieve, like a reprieve. Reprieve. Sorry. Damn it. I said it right in my scene the other day. Okay. It's just a reprieve from, like, the anomalies. It's a nice little respite, Whitney, if you will. It's a nice little respite. And Craig and I do have an outline, but we threw it out the window because you came.

Yeah. We have it in our inbox. Right. And it's about a bunch of shit that you don't talk about, but talking to you about whatever that you want to talk about. What was so compelling that I disrupted? All right. Please tell me the topic. Porn's on there. Porn's on there. So you might have that. Did Austin really show up to your house uninvited tonight or unannounced? Yes. Yeah. No. Well,

I mean, I texted him and I was like, Hey, I'm coming over. And then I texted Patricia and said, Hey, I'm at your house downstairs. If you want to come and say, Hey, and she came downstairs and she was like, let's eat spaghetti and meatballs. And I was like, I honestly didn't know that that's what I wanted so badly tonight. I was so hungry, Craig.

and we ate spaghetti meatballs. It was amazing. Mine's usually about bitching about people I run into while traveling. That's uninteresting. On our notes today was, yeah, karaoke for Alston's sister's belated birthday. We were going to ask about New York, how the restaurant is. Are we watching anything new? What are you watching right now? Yeah. I want to know what you watch. What do you watch?

You don't watch any unscripted, right? I mean, you don't watch any script. Actually, just for research, if you want... For research. He's like, I watch this like four on one porn for research. If you want to see pure brilliance in economy and production... Don't say it. Oh, he's going to say something.

No, no, no. No, no, no. It is Love Island, Australia. I just watched it too. Oh my God. What happened? Oh, my ears went off. Oh yeah. Okay. Sorry. Continue. Because I was about to say, guys, I finally broke down and watched an unscripted show. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you watched one episode. I don't know. You watch, um,

And then before that, I'd watch... I thought the host was prettier than any of the contestants. I watched Love Island UK, and I, you know, I'm living in London past seven months, you know, up through the fall. And this show is on six nights a week.

This fucking show. And it's absolute brilliance. And it is so pure Darwinism in that they bring in five guys and five girls. And then, you know, it's always like about the bigger, better deal about fighting the hotter guy, hotter girl. And then, you know, someone has to pair up in the end like The Bachelor. However, it's just how it's produced and executed. So compelling. You're like, holy shit. And they're like, people are good looking and like naughty and funny and dumb. And you hate them and you love them. And it's just like...

If I was like a template of like pure, great, unscripted television, it is Love Island. Not the Love Island US, which I think sucks, but the Love Island Australia, Love Island UK. And I heard Australia is not as great as UK so far. Which one? Well, the newest one is that Australia, I heard it's not as great as, I hear UK is just brilliant. Hold on, hold on. Who did you hear that from?

So I watched with Paige, though, and she was like, this isn't as good as the last one. So when Craig says that he heard something that has to do with pop culture, it comes from Paige. Yes, but Austin also said I said Paige's name too much, so I've now replaced saying I heard it from my girlfriend by saying I heard it from someone. Right. Craig's like, on my blog. No, but she just said that UK was fantastic, and I remember the whole world was like, this is the best show. And it's usually what she has to watch on a VPN because it's usually watched online.

live in that country, correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people vote. So that's hard.

And it's the number one watched program in the UK. What is? Love Island. Love Island. But also, it's formatted in, I don't know, 30 countries? So it's one of the most watched shows in the world. And they all become super famous, right? Your mother? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Famous shows. It's Instagram famous. Whitney, you know today, as we always talk about, what pops up on your...

like explore feed, right? And mine is always blondes and like, you know, dog things and, you know, sports. It's very simple. Snowboard. Hold on. Yeah. Snowboarding, golden retrievers and babes and babes. Okay. And then there's like, there's some animal planet type shit where I'm like, Oh my God, did that monkey just fucking kill that Jaguar? Holy shit. So I get street. So like these two absolute smoke shows, you know, pop up.

Dude, if they're blonde, I'm clicking on them. I'm a sucker for a type. Duh. So I click on them and I'm like, all right, they're in lingerie. Like I click on a more, uh,

you know, one has like 1.4 million, one has like 4.5. And then I find out on their profiles that they both were on some season of a love Island, UK or Australia. And I'm like, holy shit. These people are like massive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So love Island is like a whole last thing. And it's just like one season. Right. So why would, so when you're watching for like inspiration or research, what are you getting out of it? I would like to talk to you about one of our sponsors, timeline nutrition.

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Get your first month free at greenlight.com slash pod. Greenlight.com slash pod. Look at production. I look at casting, how people act and interact on the show, what makes them good, what, you know, how you, because a lot of it you can tell, I mean, I don't know because I've never been on set in Love Island, but you can see a lot of it's kind of produced like the

kind of conflict and drama. Right. You're like, okay, the producers must have instigated that. But it's really well, but it's kind of seamless how they do it. I have to watch this show. It's really, really. But I was asking that like the first day when they came out and one stole the guy from another girl and I was like,

it behooves me to think like someone wasn't like, Hey, you should probably take Mikey. Like you said, Mikey's pretty hot. And then like an ongoing show like ours or like each season is a new cast and then a new thing. Yeah. But again, it's like, well, yeah. Yeah. What? It's new. It's,

So it's a new cast every season, but during the season, the cast changes because hotter people get introduced every week and you can change partners. It's not like the Bats where you're stuck with the same lot. Do they kick off anyone? If you're left alone, you're gone. So production is like, okay, we're doing the metrics of who does the audience not like or who's boring or who's not bringing it, who's not making out with some dude or girl. And then they're out.

And it's just this Darwinism. And there's country votes, too. I thought that I just saw something, too, that said, and like, look, I see all this shit on the gram and everything. And it said Instagram. Jesus, I never heard that. The gram. And Whitney. And I heard that the new contestants won't be able to use social media so they can't lobby for themselves. Well, I mean, what are you talking about? On what show?

I think Love Island. No, no, no, no. Yeah. So once you're voted off or whatever, then you're put in a hotel.

where you can't leave. And same, I think, for Survivor or Amazing Race. So, you know, until the show is done, if you've been voted off or whatever. Yes, and knowing it. You've got to be stuck in some shitty hotel. That'd be kind of rad, dude. I would be getting bombed in this hotel. So, room service every night, like, just hitting the bar hard. Maybe like airport hotel. Oh, yeah, 100%. You'd be so lonely, baby. We'd also escape. The soaps are so small. Yeah.

The centers are small at the airport hotel. You know Corey? We don't know if there's an Elvis on here, but you can tell us about it. Before Southern Charm came... Airport hotel, baby. Corey was casted by a big brother and they had babysitters who wouldn't let him out of their sight, but it's a whole other story. Did he...

Did he do it? No, he got screwed over. And then he got screwed over on our show. And he was like, fuck reality TV. Look, I'm glad he's kind of come up and he's comporting himself on Summer, Winter House. He both now. He's doing his thing. Good for him. He's kind of brought into his own. I love Corey. He's a great guy. He's a good friend of yours. And I felt bad that he didn't make the initial cut. But whatever. Hey, bounce back. Do you think there's a barrier? Okay, so you're watching Love Island. Yeah.

I noticed that some girls that came out, you could tell, oh, this girl is going to, she's going to make her money by being the crazy bitch, the rat. You know, do you think there's a ceiling to that on Love Island? Or do you think the crazier, the better? Or do they have to balance it? No, there is a balance. I know they have psychologists or, sorry, psychiatrists kind of vet a lot of the candidates. Some crazier than others. Who will bring what? You know, there's a whole science behind it.

And also, remember, you get, I don't know how many hundreds, not thousands, people they have to go through to cast for these things. So there's a wide, wide pool which you could choose from. Thousands. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I mean, the cast of that show. But they cast you a whole lot of fun. But also, they're like, hey, let's go on, like, some demodeling list from out of Sydney or something, and let's find some people and let's send them a direct message. No, seriously, the amount of people that I've had that reached out to me and been like, oh, you know, and not going to tell, you know, for what, but been like, hey, so-and-so, you know, reached out to me about this. What do I say? And I'm like, how did they find you? And I'm like, you clearly went through my follower list or the list that I follow. Oh.

find cute girls and dm them i'm like what what in the world that's such a here's a here's a great nothing i know from can't name the show they send out teams of like really attractive girls to various clubs and bars and like and like go up to hot guys yeah and then they're like hey and by the way we're casting for a show would you be interested blah blah blah and then

What advice could you give someone that... And then what, though? Do you think that these girls, like... What do you mean, them, what? It's the casting process. They, like, reach out and then they... No. No. Bullshit. These hot girls go out... Hey, morally safer. Yeah, they get their information and, like... Quit saying random names that no one knows. But Whitney... He's one of the greatest journalists in the history of journalism. For people that want to get on... Morally safer. So for people that want to get casted... He's on 60 Minutes.

What's that? No, I'm kidding. Do you have any advice, Whitney, for people that want to be casted for a reality show other than something funny? How? Because I could say a lot of blind applications probably don't get picked. Right. So what advice could you give someone that wants to get on? They're always looking for... Or is it just chance? It's a bit of chance, but it's a lot... When you cast actors for a movie or a TV show, you have a script, right?

Certain types, it's a certain role. And, you know, it's so much harder. People think, like, you just turn on, sorry, like in L.A., people come up to me, like, working film and TV, like, oh, my God, you know, it's like the end of the day. There's a whole process to story, casting. I mean, as much or more goes into that than, say, a scripted show or a movie in that you need to find people that's quite difficult that have all these attributes, right?

right off the bat, and put them in front of the camera, and they have to perform. Or like they didn't go to Juilliard or, you know, years of going to acting classes and have kind of built up something where, you know, you can cast. It's difficult. And finding people that are good and can sustain and, you know, quote, unquote, bring it, which that's probably you kind of have to bring it if, you know. And then also you have to nail it.

You gotta bring it. You gotta bring it. I was looking, Craig and I just looked at each other when he said that. At the end of the day, that is what makes a reality star is if you know, you know, when you're just like, you know what? Fuck it, man. I'm going. Yeah. Oh man. And we all have those moments. And when you, that's gotta make you proud at some point where you're just like, I had a, I had a hand in that. I,

I mean, Whitney, when you, when like you just have that moment and okay, I'm talking to Craig at this point when you just have that moment and I'm not bragging at all, but it's kind of funny where you're like, I'm about to cause a fucking ruckus. It's kind of like, or when you see your buddy about to go off where you're like, if you know someone just said something and you're like,

Oh, here they go. You're getting real jacked up right now, Craig. I'm like, yeah. Oh, season. Next season. Next season. Yeah. Craig has done that a few times. But shit, man. I had that moment. I swear to God at Summer House. I was like, I'm about to go off and cause a ruckus. And it was not in a good way. But sometimes you're just like. I mean, piece of advice. Number one, you got to nail it in the casting. David, you show up in the camera. What the fuck was that? Austin keeps playing with the table. He's the one.

Okay. There's a character on... Do we need to be needed again? There's a character on Love Island UK. Her name is Akin Su. And she coupled up with this guy named Davide. And Davide, he didn't give a fuck. He's this Italian guy. But like, all these guys, it's incredible to show, they're all these like, chiseled Adonises, or just dumb as fuck. Yeah.

And the girls are absolute dimwits. But it works. But she was the craziest. She fucked with everyone. Fighting. Fucking. Just whatever. Just...

Just take it out on the world. And they end up together and they won it because they were the most compelling. That's cool. You know, some couples leave, right? So I would say a great, I mean, this is bad advice, but watch Love Island the last season. I don't know what the fuck it was, but with Akin Su, E-K-I-N-S-U. She's a Turkish girl and she was perfect.

TV. I mean, really compelling. All right. I have, I have a piece of advice. I want to hear yours, Austin. If you actually, that, I think Whitney's telling us how to be the best reality star you possibly could. No, I don't know anything. Once you get cast. I literally, literally know nothing. You've casted how many shows? Yeah, you're, you're an amazing cast and that's how this Southern Charm worked and guess what? You're terrible like in front of the camera, but, but casting, you're amazing. No, I get excited whenever Whitney shows up. I do too. I talked about

Wait, let me ask you. So legally, you cannot talk about specifics or details of the show? They just don't fuck with us if we don't. So it's in our best interest to not. How many gumballs do you think I can stick up your butt? Like, Vanderbilt, some podcasts will talk about their stuff, and you can't until it airs, but we really don't care. So we don't talk about it. You seem to have so many more varied interests and passions that you can discuss. I mean, you know over 4 million people have listened to this podcast? Yeah.

they need to get a life. I told them that. Podcasts are important. I don't have the patience for podcasts. Podcasts are people too, Whitney.

I mean, unless I'm learning or bettering my life, which you guys are not doing in any capacity for anyone. You're not educating. You're not amusing. Again. Okay. Hey, everyone. So glad you could join us for a good friend, Whitney, who just wants to emasculate us. Stay tuned for more. Commercial break, and we'll be back with our, surprisingly, Whitney's still here, which is crazy. Yeah, he has nowhere else to go. Wait, what is this song?

Do you want to pick a different one? Oh, yeah. Peaches. Oh, Peaches is the best. Peaches by... We've done it before. The Presidents of American... That was Matt Fasenfeld's favorite song. Well, wait. Are you sure you're going to do it? Millions of peaches... Sucking on some titties like they want. No, Craig. No. What? Peaches by American Presidents. Millions of peaches. Peaches for free. Oh, fuck the pain away. This is the song. No. I don't want it.

No, no, no. I know, but that's what I was... Suckin' on my titties. Okay, what song, Wendy? What song? Peaches by American Presidents. American Presidents, they not just, like, something... Name that band. Suckin' on my titties. Oh, yeah, yeah. Play it. I love that our structure just changes every week. Oh, yeah, hit it. Hit it. Because we produce it ourselves. Turn it up high. This is actually a really good song. Talking about Oscars, um...

No, at the bottom of the thing. You weren't supposed to ask about the thing about Oscars would behoove everyone to go out and watch Navalny documentary. How do you spell that? Wait, let's guess first. Say it one more time. No, say it. And then we're going to guess how to spell it. Navalny. N-A-V-A-N-Y. Hold on. N-E-V-A-H-N. Oh, N-A-L-V-A-N-Y.

I got to like, what's it about? Well, it's about the man's name is clearly Navalny. One of Putin's critics who was put in jail. Um, yeah, it's really tragic. So like new, new age stuff. How did he make it? Did he go to Russia? Yeah, no, no, no. That's terrifying. You couldn't pay me to go to Russia. No, unless you were like, Craig, you're a super secret spy now. You couldn't get in now. No, it's really compelling. It's very relevant. Um, okay. How can you watch it?

streaming. I don't know. I look it up, but no, it's really, okay. Um,

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So Oscars are voted on by who?

Like a board of people? Like you pay your dues? You have to be in the Academy. Is the Academy the same as the Actors Guild? No. You kind of have to be nominated or get credits or be part of the Academy itself. Gotcha. So Hollywood people. I want to list off the number of movies that have the most nods for consideration. Please. And then I want you to tell me

Whitney Settler Smith, everybody. What do you think is shit? And what do you think is worth watching? I never critique or comment on other people's work. Sorry. Oh, I can't do that. Oh, just on us. Well, which one? Yeah. Okay. Well, read them and I'll tell you, is there any way that I've heard of any of them? Uh,

But something like Top Gun doesn't get nominated, right? That's not true, man. They get nominated for six different considerations. Yeah, I'm sure like sound editing and I don't know what else. Yeah, and like stunts and that's the thing. The movie's amazing. It's amazing. I watch it. The last 50 minutes I watch on the flight. I don't like the beginning, but I watch it. We watch it properly because they filmed a lot of it in the cockpits or proper F. Yeah, it's crazy. It took years and years and years to film. Okay.

Everywhere, all at once. Have you seen it? No. Oh, you haven't. It's nominated for 11 Oscars. I know the film. What's for best film? What's nominated? Did Peanut Butter Falcon ever win anything? Craig, quit talking about Peanut Butter Falcon. I love it. What the fuck is that? Peanut Butter Falcon. It's an actually incredible movie. What's the number one? It's with Shia LaBeouf. Yeah. And a kid with Down syndrome who's a great actor. Oh, yeah.

It was all shot. Oscar nominations, 23. Okay. Best picture. Top Gun Maverick. Women Talking with Frances McDormand. We'll not let you speak. Sorry, Whitney. Shut up. Everything Everywhere All at Once. The Banshees of Inner Sheeran. That's the best movie of the year. It's awful. I watched it. Are you kidding me?

What is wrong with you? How dumb are you to not like that? What was to like about it? I was shocked. What is it about? Okay, I'm going to tell you exactly what it's about. Oh, my God. Okay, I'm going to tell you exactly what it's about. So these two pumpkins are on an Irish fucking island, okay, that's like across the way is the War of what, Whitney? Do you know what the war is? Yeah, it's a fucking Irish Civil War of 1920. Do you know the year?

1929. Yeah, no, no. I said 1923. Austin was probably texting. Fuck off. Were you texting during the movie? No. No, I watched it. I'm not talking cinema with you, so forget it. Let Whitney say what he was going to say. What were you going to say? That's one of the best movies of the year. And why don't you like it? Because he has no sophistication or taste. Yeah, yeah, because I don't like art or Sebastian Bach. Who's Sebastian? Okay.

Yeah, Sebastian Bach. The singer of, what's the name of that band? The Composer? The All-American Rejects. No, no, no. The Composer, yes. Yeah, The Composer. Yes. Bach. No, no, no. Sebastian Bach. The heavy metal singer from the early 90s. No, he's a composer. Because he took, you know, Johan. Okay. Anyway. Johan Sebastian Bach. Okay, the reason why, Craig, is the actors were,

what the fuck why don't they have okay man so Colin Farrell and so Colin Farrell and the other actor is Brendan Gleeson Brendan Gleeson okay the film starts with Colin Farrell going to Brendan Gleeson's house like me coming to your house like hey you know let's go to the pub and get a pint and his friend's like and his friend's like and so for 20 minutes they're trying to figure out like all these

other people you know the owner of the bar the other people in town they're like why isn't he talking to you and he's like well I don't really know so he sits him down and Brendan Gleeson goes because I don't like you anymore and he's like why don't you like me anymore and he's like because you're an uninteresting twat

And he's like, I do too. If you were to come to Craig. Yeah. Sounds like you wrote this. I know. And then, and then, and then all of a sudden he's like, well, I'm coming to like the end of my life and I want to like spend it, you know, writing music and doing this. And if you keep on bothering me, I'm going to cut off my fingers. And so he cuts off his entire fucking hand because spoiler alert. Okay. Don't ruin it for people. Yeah.

Jesus. It's fucking terrible. Watch the film. It's really good. Come back to us if you think it's terrible. What about The Fablemen? I'm going to watch it just so I can be like, okay, I'm either going to like it or be like, okay, I don't understand. I thought it was excellent. What about The Fablemen? What about All Quiet on the Western Front? All Quiet on the Western Front should win the Best Picture.

Really? That's my prediction. I thought you said I'm going to watch it tonight. I'll take a bet. Well, I love the movie, but I'll take a bet. You three. Yeah. This will win best picture. What is it? All Quiet in the Western Front? It's World War I from the book, you know, about on the lines of Germany versus France. Is it political who wins or no?

Just like everything. Well, Germany lost. No, no, no. I mean, it's an anti-war movie. Oh, okay. Okay, I understand. So it kind of relates to the day and age with the Ukraine war. Right. People are saying this is very kind of pressing and relevant in that, you know, it should, I mean, it's a really solid movie. Again, I read the book when I was in high school.

Sam Dane gets your typical anti-war film. However, it is brilliantly done. Do they make a lot of money? Do these movies make a lot of money? It's on Netflix. It should have. It's a brilliant movie. We should both watch it tonight, Craig, and then we'll report back tomorrow. Yeah, it's a really good movie. It'll win Best Picture. Because all amongst the front.

Dude, all quiet on the Western Front. God damn it, you guys. Craig, dude, it's actually like a very famous... This is like the anti-MENSA. Like, you know, like, okay, let's go the reverse of MENSA and get a bunch of fucking dumbasses talking about absolutely nothing and knowing nothing about anything. What? Craig and Austin. The most politically correct... Apolitical. The most politically correct way to now call someone...

Just dumber than dumb. Anti-Mensa. Whitney just figured out the way to call people idiots. Oh, man. What have we talked about the past 45 minutes? I don't even know. That's the point, Whitney. But you know what? I don't know and I don't want to know. I don't care. Our job is to make people forget about what they're doing for a little bit. But at least make...

Whitney. Well, they're learning from you. Whitney. They're learning from you. No, they're not. That's what we have on you. Interesting guests. Yeah. That's why we have guests, Whitney. Whitney, just take a deep breath. It's been a hard... All Quiet on the Western Front is second in nominations at nine behind Everything Everywhere All at Once with Elisabeth. Now...

Avatar is also on there. Did you see the new Avatar? Excellent movie. Really? I didn't expect that from you. I thought it went on a bit long, but I like these spectacles. How did you watch it? I love it.

Or do you have that rich person thing where you can watch movies at your house? I took an edible. I went to the theater alone and just, I wanted to kind of the whole Dolby experience. Wait, why didn't you call us? I love going to the movies. Yeah. No, I don't like going to movies. I hate sticky seats and dirty armrests and, you know, kids. Shocker. What movie theater do you go to here now that Cinnabar is closed?

Or did you not watch it here? Craig, I love your position. Now that Cinnabar is closed because it's the only one to go to. That's what Craig and I love. But I'll tell you what. Not everyone loved Cinnabar, Craig. But at one point, Whitney, I like at 2020, I was like, Craig, let's buy fucking Cinnabar. Yeah, I know. No, I saw the Lester Theater in London. But thank God that, you know, we didn't. Okay, what else? Um.

Okay. Women talking, Top Gun, Tar, Elvis, Whitney. Whitney, what did you think about Elvis? Wait, did you see Tar? No, no, I didn't see Tar yet. No, it's always on my Apple TV to click on, and I haven't clicked on it. I will watch Tar. It's good. What did you think about fucking Elvis? For everyone who does not know, and if you don't know, then you don't know Whitney Siddler Smith at all, but Whitney has an

a healthy or maybe an unhealthy, a healthy obsession with Elvis. So Whitney, what did you think about Austin Butler's portrayal of Elvis in the film? Vanessa Hudgens' ex-boyfriend. Oh my gosh. I didn't watch it. I didn't want to watch it. Yes, you did. Aren't you friends with...

Boz? I am. Okay. And you never watched it? One of my best friends was the musical supervisor for Romeo and Juliet and a couple other of his movies, and I know Boz. I just, too close to the material that I just couldn't, just couldn't do it. That's a fan right there. That makes sense. He loves Elvis so much that he could not watch. I would judge it too harshly. I know I wouldn't like it,

and I'll just see too many inaccuracies. Could you have been like a consultant on the film? Do you know that much about Elvis? I do, sadly. That's kind of cool. You met Austin Butler one time too, right? And Austin Butler was like, he didn't tell you that he was about to be Elvis, but what happened? What was the interaction? Didn't you meet Austin Butler prior to the film? Yeah, Children's Firehouse, London. Yeah, I'm kidding.

He didn't know who the fuck I was, and vice versa. But yeah, cool guy. And I was getting my friend, really good friends with Baz Luhrmann, the director, and I was like, oh, this guy's playing Elvis. I'm like, I don't really see it. I don't see the accent and the looks, but apparently he nailed it in the movie. I'll give him credit. I did not see it. Did he get nominated? Yeah. He did. Oh, yeah. The accent...

it's stuck. Let's just say, and like, he can't get rid of it. See, I might know now. That's not, no, it's not.

You don't get stuck with an accent. Well, he did. No, he didn't. Well, call him and tell him that he didn't because he fucking did. Well, he's a fucking method actor. He's claiming he got stuck with it. Okay, but everything that you see him do, he's like, well, I... And he talks in this Southern drawl, Memphis accent. Yeah, because... Well, like, I don't want to say motherfucker, but...

Yeah, like Whitney can talk now. I don't talk like Elvis motherfucker. Yeah, Whitney can talk like him, but he's not going to get stuck in it. Okay, so Craig thinks that Austin Butler's lying. I'm waiting for the rebuttal from Mr. Butler himself. Okay, I need to research whether or not that you can get stuck in an accent that you're faking. I think that if you're such a man...

That's good. All right, next. Yeah, okay. So who else is nominated? Triangle of Sadness? Yeah. Did you watch that, Whitney? It's a great movie. Really? It's fucked up. You know what? In fact, not to revert to Bravo, but it's about a bunch of wealthy people on a luxury yacht.

Oh, I... And everything goes to hell. Yeah, the murder. Yeah. Wait, this is one I might have seen. It's like a much more polished below deck. Old school. Like the old school wealth, right? Back in the day. Like it's an old school yacht. No, no. Oh, it's an old yacht. Yeah. Yeah, old yacht. And like...

I didn't pay attention, but that movie was on during the holidays. I'm going to do a spoiler alert just because, whatever, I don't give a fuck. I didn't see the end. Spoiler alert. Anyone who's listening to this shit is going to watch this movie. Shut up. I'm talking. Shut the fuck up. Sorry. I'm not that interesting. But I will say in this film, so this is Luxury Yacht, and they hit rough seas, and all these wealthy people are dining on foie gras and caviar and this and that. And the rough seas are so hard. The captain...

Played by Woody Harrelson gets hammered. He doesn't give a fuck, and he's drinking with this Russian oligarch. In the rough she's head, everyone's vomiting everywhere. And they're vomiting, and then people are, like, throwing up on each other and slipping in vomit and piss and seawater and things listing, and it runs out of power, and then they get, like, kind of shipwrecked, and then these Somalian pirates blow up the ship. Oh, I didn't know that.

I didn't watch this movie. It's really good. I didn't watch this. I tried to watch it twice on a Delta flight, Craig. A Somalian? I fell asleep. The pirates just blow them up? Some pirates go. Wait, I watched a movie about an old polished African cruise. And it was maybe the sequel to Knives Out or something. I don't know.

But it's not the movie you were talking about. So, okay, I'm O for all of the movies that are nominated. What? Let's see if I... What do you guys do in your leisure time? I watch everything else. Do you read? What do you do? I read Special Forces books. Like that one I just did. You probably read that two years ago.

about inside Delta force. Okay. What, which any movies that I would have seen Austin, like for the actors or, yeah, I don't think. Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, what about this? Avatar. You saw the actors in Avatar. Yeah. I like her. What's her name? Hold on. She plays a more on like, she's been in four, $2 billion movies now. It starts with a Z, you know, Zoli. Okay. Listen, yes, yes.

Okay, best actor contenders. We have to do a special shout out to our fucking main man, Brendan Fraser for The Whale. Did you see The Whale? I haven't seen it. Yes. That's not nominated for best movie? Best actor. Best actor. Do you know him, Whitney? Best actor. I never met him, no. Austin is obsessed with him. I met him. I met Brendan Fraser. Did you tell him you have a group chat about him? Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah, and I said, hey, when...

He probably was like, fucking asshole. I was like, when the mummy comes on, I text my group chat every single time and vice versa. And he was like, thank you so much. And you know what he did to me, Whitney? He quoted fucking airheads. Yeah. And he gave me the like... No, the one under when he's stuck underground is what I would have thought about. Blast from the past. Yeah. Okay, now two. Colin Farrell, The Banshees of Insurian.

Three, Austin Butler, Elvis. Four, Bill Nighy, Living. Bill Nighy? Bill Nighy. Not the science guy. He was in love, actually. That's how you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's great. I feel it in my fingers. See, I'm a holiday fan. I feel it in my toes. All right, we're running out of time. Paul Mescal, After Sun. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. What is that?

After Sun. Now, best actress, Cate Blanchett, Tar, Michelle Yeoh, Everything Everywhere All at Once, you have to watch. Ana de Armas, Blonde. Michelle Williams, A Fable Mince. What's the movie you didn't know? After Sun. Oh my God. Okay, guys, this is done. We've lost steam. After Sun. Anyway, guys, thank you for tuning in to Cate.

Z-O-K. I love it. Love on the island. Watch Love Island, like Whitney said. Watch Bravo because Whitney also gets residuals from that. Thank you. And we get whatever the opposite of residuals are. Thank you very much. Austin, it's a pleasure. Thank you for showing up with Whitney. Whitney, thank you. I didn't think I'd see the day. No, no, no. Well, he got me in a vulnerable moment. But I got to say, you guys were fun. It was a lot of fun.

It's pretty bad. It's not as janky, though, as you would imagine. You got a proper setup. You got lights and shit. You said that you love us. Anyway, no, these guys are... Your mom's going to enjoy this, but we're going to bring this setup, too. Actually, Patricia's going to love this. And your mother actually told me tonight again for the 10th time that she wants to do a podcast with Craig and I about love.

Yeah, bring mom on. I mean, she's a far better guest than me. I'm just like a surly dick. Yeah, you are. All right. Nothing about your dick is surly. Name a song, Lenny. Name a song. Maybe your favorite Selvidge song. Bulls on Parade. How about Wonderwall? How about Killing in the Name of? How about, no, no, no. Slipknot Duality. D-U-A-L-I-T-Y. I know how to spell duality. Well, the other word was foreign.

I feel it. Oh, shit. All right. Thank you, besties. We love you so much. Thank you, guys. Sorry for this 45 minutes. Hey, Whitney, I'm going to be smiling a week from now that you showed up. All right, everyone. Have an amazing week.

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