Season 4. Episode 9: Separated Part 1 w/ Austen Kroll
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What's up everyone and welcome to this episode, this special episode as we like to say of Pillows and Beer.

I am in the south of France. I am in Provence. And I'm going to be doing a little ditty here for a little bit with Nick and then Craig is going to jump on. But I'm going to give Nick some questions to ask Craig because I'm very interested because the whole thing that I want to talk about is family vacation. I want to talk about what are the do's and don'ts.

what Craig thinks about a couple of these questions. Obviously, I'm going to be joined. Well, not obviously, but I'm joined by Nick today. Nick is going to be my trusty co-host, my bestie until Craig can jump on. And I'm anxious to hear his side of things. But then when you record later with Nick, but Nick, when you record later with Craig, I want you to ask him a few of these questions. So first up,

Uh, what's up, Nick? How are you, bud? Okay. I'm sitting in a friend's pool house right now because half of my area is out of internet because we got slammed by thunderstorms and it like fried half of the area. So I could be worse. I'm staring at a pool right now that I'm going to jump in once we stop recording. Yeah, that's not bad. I'm, uh, I'm sitting, if you can see my background, I'm sitting in this just like 17th century, like gorgeous, uh,

Chateau or Villa. Um, a family friend kind of put us in touch with, um, the owner of this and it's just, it's just gorgeous. I, it is, yeah, it's quite literally, uh, a cave. So unless I'm like really close to the internet source, uh, internet does not work. So I feel you on the lack of internet usage. Um,

All right. I just want to dive into it, dude. Yeah, let's go for it. So, so, so, so it's 11 PM here, which means it's 5 PM back East where Nick is and Craig, and we just drove back from dinner. That's late, but I guess that's what they do in Europe, right? Yeah. But the crulls tend to eat late. Now, let me tell you driving home, Nick, just now,

was so stressful. So first off, mom is driving because mom's driving. She's like, well, the insurance is under my name and your father's name. And I haven't been drinking much. Me, well, the whole fam split a bottle of red wine. But my mom had a half glass. My dad had a glass. And then like I said, Katie and I had a glass and a half each. And that's all that we had. It's all we have for dinner. And it was like, well, let's get home because it's dark out.

And, and you know, all of us were like, yes, yes, of course. Like, let's go, let's go, let's get the hell home. And you know, we can have a glass of wine there or whatever. Although that's not going to happen because we have to wake up early tomorrow. Anyways, Katie sat in the front seat. Me and my dad are in the backseat and I was trying, we both were trying our hardest to not be backseat drivers. Painful, Nick, painful. I don't know if it's just my parents or

or I don't know when the besties out there drove with their parents last, or maybe there are some parents that are listening and they're like, "Shit, that's me." And I used to think that way about my parents, but I kept on looking at Katie in the rear view mirror and we were like,

Just shut up. Just shut up. It's going to make it worse. But we couldn't. She was missing turns. She was like, wait, here, here? We're like, mom, the directions couldn't be in a bigger screen in front of your face. Well, I'm driving and I can't look down. I'm like, and on top of that, she's yelling the directions to you. What don't you understand? Like, what don't you understand? Why? Why, why, why don't you? And so it was painful, Nick. It was painful. And like,

I don't know if like your parents do this, but like when they make like a three point turn because they miss it. That's the best. I mean, my mom doesn't even drive anymore. It's my mom doesn't drive anymore. If I'm, if I'm with my, my, my mom, it's, I always drive. That's just what it's come down to. Nick, you don't think that I tried.

I was like, guys, I've had a glass and a half of wine. Let me just, you know, and it was an absolute hard no, which, you know, good on them, I guess, for being good. But still, I'm like, guys, please, like, please, please, please. Like, I can do this so much more efficiently than you can. I promise. I think that that's just family, just parents, you know? Oh, 100%. A three-point turn is like...

Especially when you're in another country or your place, you don't know. Oh my gosh. I was like, mom, where you're backing into, you just looked at. So you know that nothing's back there. Just whip it in, whip it out. Like, let's go. No, it's like Austin Powers going through the hallway. No, it is like, and you're like, okay, you know? Oh yeah. And then the yelling starts. Katie's playing like a little bit of music to keep us sane. Right. But like, you know, very light and very low.

And my dad's, "Katie, turn off that music." And my mom's like, "No, no, no, no. No, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine." Because she's trying to be the mom for Mean Girls. She's like, "I'm a cool mom." But then the second that she misses that turn, "Katie, turn down that music." It's so true. And I know we have a lot of moms that listen to this, so I apologize. But oh my God, there are stereotypes for a reason out there.

And driving with your parents is brutal at times. And let me clarify that. It's driving with your own parents. Like, Nick, if I was in the car with your mom, you know, it wouldn't frustrate me because I'd be like, take your time, Miss Norris. Take your time. We're in no rush. You know, just like if you were in the car with my mom, you know, you'd be like, it's fine. It's fine. You know, just like a little detour. You know, we're good. But when it's your parents, it like, you are just like...

Oh my God. Can you drive any slower? You know, I like Nick, we were in a parking garage and she was going so slow that she hit a speed bump and went backwards. Like she literally went backwards. I was like, no, you did not just go backwards. And, um, and I just think, you know, it's just something about, you know, your family. It's like,

Yeah. Well, another thing funny about being with your family on vacation that I saw in your story, and I immediately took note of this, Craig would never understand this, but when you said walking with your sister, like going out on like vacation with your sister, 90% of the time people think you're dating. If it's just the two of you, especially when you're out. 100%, you know, Katie and I joke about it and I'm like, you're cramping my style, Katie.

And, you know, and vice versa, what she says to me. And so now when we're at dinner, we don't sit next to or across from each other, but we sit, you know, diagonal from each other. See, that's smart though. But, you know, but like the family trips, it's like –

you know, if I walk outside, you know, to do something, then she walks outside, you know, it's like, Oh, Hey, like, uh, I'm going to go and check that out over there. She's like, I'm coming with. And, and that's just, you know what it is. And then obviously, uh, when we were in Rome, the folks go to bed and her and I went out one night because, um, because one of the assistants to the person who, uh, uh,

made this whole trip itinerary for us, had a little crush on Katie. And I was like, and she was like, please, please come with me. And I was like, yeah, of course. And so I kind of used her and that was the first time that I was like, wow, okay. You know, I'm using Katie for, you know, some ends here, right? Because this guy was Italian and, you know, he knew some fun spots. Suffice to say, we didn't get home until, until late that night. But it was, it, it's just been,

Okay, so what's better, France or Italy? Well, I'm not going to say which one's better, but I'm very, very happy to be in the south of France right now because we are in the Provence region. And we went to Exxon Provence for dinner tonight. And you know what Exxon is? It's...

I mean, just a gorgeous part of France, the South of France. But, um, you know, there's literally that brand of Rose that's, you know, AIX. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's, you know, the town. So you guys been doing just like wineries and stuff or what are you guys doing now? No, no, no, no, no. So, so, uh, let's see. We, we, we arrived. Okay. So we flew in, we flew in on, on Monday early, like we had an early flight.

because we just spent the day in San Tropez and we went to like a beach club there. And I mean, to say that my parents were fish out of water was, is an understatement, right? Because, you know, the DJ was, you know, slowly, slowly hitting it and he hit a solid, you know, crescendo at like,

4:35 and Katie and I were like, yes, this is this is this is good shit, you know and mom and dad or like on the beach with like And they're like what is happening until they kind of walked up there and they were like, okay, this is kind of cool and

All right. So now here are my questions for you and Craig, because it's just like, we're here to do a commercial break before we dive into this. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Good, good call. Good call. So before I ask Nick and Craig, these family questions, we're going to take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back.

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All right, besties. Welcome back to this episode of Pillows and Beer. I am in the south of France. It is 11 at night. Make a wish, Nick.

I wish is that you think that these questions are funny. Okay. It is 511 on the East Coast. I just got back from dinner. And at what age do you think that it's weird to go on a family vacation with your family? Like a 10-day vacation.

you know, out there. I'm honestly going to say never. I love going out, but we do a lot of like family vacation type stuff. Especially with my cousins and stuff. Like, I don't think it's, you're ever too old. Okay. Well then, well then that means that you're like me. And so then Katie and I started talking and she was like, look, a lot of my friends, like they don't have this and they don't do this and they don't. And I'm not talking about, you know, the South of France per se. I'm talking about, I don't know. You're going to the beach or anything.

like I'll palms for a week or whatever. Like you're just running out of beach house. I don't see anything weird about that. I think, I think it just depends on your family dynamic. Right. Right. I think you have a good family. I'd like my, my family. So I just think it comes down to your relationship with your parents. Well, I mean, you know, sometimes they drive me fucking crazy and I drive them crazy, you know, no doubt. Yes. And, and so, you know, you just start to think, right. Because I'm like, wait a minute.

Am I too fucking old to be doing – like am I too old to be – Well, I'm getting to the age, and I don't know if you're there yet, where my mom's like, why am I going on a family vacation? I don't have any grandchildren running around yet or something like that. Like I'm getting to that point where why aren't you engaged yet, Nick? Or when can I expect to have little ones coming on vacation with us? That I am getting to the point at. Interesting, interesting. I feel like my family –

you know, they, they know better. And as I've talked about, they are just happier with, with me being, you know, happy and when it's right and kind of thing. But yeah,

So, okay. Okay. So I, I want you to remember that question. Like, and, and it's not, it's, it's not just like a, it's not just like a, you know, Memorial day trip with the fam. Cause I feel like I'm going to be, I mean, as long as my parents are alive, like I will always do that. Like a week long seven to 10 day vacation minimum. Yeah. Okay. And then,

You know, also, well, not, not like a question, you know, really, but like, it made me laugh a little bit, I guess. Right. Where, where one of the, one of the comments on my Instagram, like got a little more attention than, than the others did because I responded to it. And a woman was like, you know, it must be nice for mommy and daddy to pay for all your vacations. And I, you know, responded very, very, you know, dryly. And I was like, actually you pay for my entire life. So thank you very much.

No, but people ate it up, right? And a bunch of likes and a bunch of this and that. But it just leads me to this. It just leads me to, well, no shit my parents are paying for me on a family vacation. Like, I'm making a sand trail pay, right? Like, my parents, well...

My dad likes to drink, but not like, you know, me and Katie and I are like, all right, let's get like a bottle of Vina Rose and then a bottle of champagne, you know, and I'm like, I am going to pay for all this. You know, don't worry. Like, I'm paying for this, you know, so it's like I paid for, you know, the beach portion, you know, of it and then for dinner. And it's like...

I'll pick random kind of tabs, especially tabs where I specifically ordered the second bottle of wine. And I'm like, I'm going to get this dinner because you guys are paying for all of it and this and that and the other. And so I'll certainly do that. But that's wild to...

to think that your parents wouldn't... And then I started laughing and I was like, well, you must have missed my three-week vacation that I just took solo, basically, because... It's one thing if your parents literally pay for that. Because there are parents that they pay for everything in someone's life and then there's a vacation? Sorry, even I can't break your balls over that one. Yeah, so write it down too for Craig. I have...

I love to love and hate my family. That's how you know you've got a good relationship though.

God, Nick, man. I mean, sometimes it's about nothing and it's about, you know, everything. Right. But I mean, you know, I mean, it was so fun yesterday, right? Because my mom and dad went into town and Katie and I sat, sat by the pool, you know, and, and, and we were just gossiping about, you know, this, that, the other. And, and it was so fun. And, you know, you love that and, you know, you can't trade, trade that for the world, you know, and, and, and then you're trying to,

And then, oh my God. And Katie and I too. And this is such a thing now, Nick, you know, when I was younger, you know, my mom was like, shut up. You guys are in the same room and that's just the way that it is. But now it's like, look, if, if you want everything to be copacetic and for all of us to be harmonious, we need our own rooms. And I know that that's a big ask, but we need our own rooms.

So in Rome, Katie and I split. When I tell you that this room was a six by six with two double beds in it, it was a six by six with two double beds in it. And we were fine. You know, we were totally fine, but it's, it's like, because we knew that there was an end in sight, you know, it's because we knew that we were coming here. It's because we knew that we were coming here. And, uh, and yeah,

What do you think about that? Like, I want you to ask, ask that to Craig. Like I, I need to know. And, and I want to know from the besties what their limits are when, okay. If you're an only child, right? Then it must be different, right? Because you've been number one priority your whole life. So you get whatever you want, whatever little angel wants. But if you have siblings, right?

Okay. Or even if you don't have siblings, what is the time limit that you can spend at home for, you know, the holidays or on a family vacation before you inevitably begin to fight? And so I, I want to hear from our besties, like, you know, for me on Christmas break, I've got it down to like a science, like, like I, I cannot go home before the 21st.

Oh, see, it could be the day one for my family. It could be day three. There's just so many small things that can happen that just set it off. And then it's go time. True. But the less amount. Yeah. So I'll try to get home on the 22nd, but she always lures me home on the 21st. I mean, I came home from Australia early, for God's sakes, because it was Christmas. And that's OK. The guilt trip is strong.

The guilt trip is strong with this family, Nick. The guilt trip is strong with this family. So besties out there, tell me what day number and if you have it down to any sort of science where you know, where you're like, it's day four, fucking Armageddon is upon us, right? Or if it's like, you can't be around like a sibling for too long or you need your sibling there.

Guess tell me because I'm interested. I'm very interested I guess we'll take another little commercial break here and then we'll come back and we'll round it out and then and then you'll be hearing from Craig and Nick and Hopefully on Tuesday, you'll be hearing from Craig and I again But our schedules if like you knew the text conversations that Craig and I had back and forth We'll just leave it at that. We'll just leave it at that Trying to make things work

It couldn't. It just didn't. Craig has been busy, and when you're on a family vacay, you're like, okay, I have this amount of time, but the six-hour time change is really tough. So anyways, commercial break. We'll be right back.

You don't have to hear just my voice any longer. I would like to talk to you about one of our sponsors, Timeline Nutrition, and one product in particular, MitoPure. MitoPure is one of the first products to offer a precise dose of urolithin A to help upgrade your mitochondrial function, help increase cellular energy, and help improve muscle strength and endurance. I've started taking it recently and I've started to tell that there is definitely this when I work out or I'm active.

But MitoPure does more than just help with my muscles. It can help with health stand as well. I want to be one of those granddads one day that you see in the video of him swinging his grandkid around. I want to rely on myself for as long as I possibly can. One way to think of MitoPure is that they are in your cells, chomping up the damaged mitochondria that makes you feel old and tired and helping to recycle it into new healthy ones.

ones. Mitochondria, our cells' power generators, are one of the key influences in how we age. However, as the years pass, mitochondrial efficiency naturally declines, representing a large gap in the quality of life we expect in our later years and the one we experience.

Taking two soft gels a day for two months and you could see significant improvements in your cellular energy, muscle strength, and endurance. After four months of taking Mito Pure, you might feel yourself getting stronger, recovering faster after a workout, and experiencing less inflammation, all part of your healthier aging routine, which is honestly amazing.

Timeline is offering 10% off your first order of Mito Pure. Go to timeline.com slash pillowsandbeer. That's T-I-M-E-L-I-N-E dot com slash pillowsandbeer. These statements and products have not been evaluated by the Friedenslog administration. These products are not invented by no street pure manufacturer.

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It's a convenient way to run your household, customized to your family's needs, and the easy way to raise financially smart kids. Get started with Greenlight today and get your first month free at greenlight.com slash pod. All right, besties, welcome back to this very special episode, as Craig likes to say, of Pillows and Beer. I am joined by Nick Norris. You will be very soon joined by Craig Conover. I love how I have to say his first and last as if y'all don't already know.

new listeners here and there. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Joined. You will be soon joined by my bestie CA Conover. This is not normally the format that we do it. So you'll hear us banter back and forth, but I've given Nick some questions to ask Craig, which actually is kind of funny. I'm anxious to see what he has to say about that. What are you guys going to talk about later, Nick? Obviously, dude, this shit is just fresh. Knowing Craig, it will be

We won't get on time like we said we were. It'll be later at night and then we'll dive into what he loves. He likes going off to the dark universe and it's just me trying to pull him back in late at night. So people, we get those messages where we go, we need...

the episodes where it's the three of you talking about conspiracy because Austin just sits there and it's like a tennis match and he's like what is Craig talking about right now yeah I mean basically right because like I zone out a little bit I mean I zone out and like it catches my attention when like Craig says something like truly off the wall and then I'm like what did this motherfucker just say

But, but basically, uh, it is funny too. I mean, I feel like I know that you guys are about to talk about the new claim that UFOs, uh, are real from, um, from someone who like worked in, in dude, I'm not even getting into it. I'm gonna let you and Craig do that shit. You guys dive into it. I don't even care. I mean, I do, but I don't until I see a alien body like on. Yeah, exactly.

Other than that, you and Craig can talk until you're blue in the face. But that is what I'm going to leave for you and Craig, man. But the family trip dynamics is what I wanted to talk about. I mean, it seems like y'all have been having a blast. We certainly have. And we've been eating well. And, you know, my mom and dad, I mean, you know, this trip is, you know, specifically for Craig.

My mother's birthday. I'm just going to leave it at that. I'm not going to say a number to embarrass her or it's not embarrassing. I mean, it's a celebration of life, but I'm just not going to say it. Um, and then it's turned into a true celebration of life considering that my dad was in the hospital and we had to cancel the trip, postpone the trip. And so here we all are. And, and it's just been great to be able to like, you know, laugh and toast and do what we do best. And that is bicker.

Well, that's the sign of a healthy family. If you do it just enough. Because if you don't do it at all, no one likes each other. They're all faking it. So I think bickering is good for the family. It toughens you up. Listen, yeah, yeah. I guess if you don't bicker, then what sort of relationship is that? I think it's a phony relationship. That's funny.

I think it's fake. Like we get those messages all the time where we never fight. And I'm like, I don't know about that. That's healthy or not. I know, man. That's just like couples, you know, you know, the couples that say that they don't fight. Right. And they're like, like, like, you know, for instance, God, I'm just picking on my parents today, but my mom and dad tried to sell me the story that they didn't fight for the first five years in the relationship. And I'm like, shut up.

That is not true. Lies. Lies. Lies. What do we have to fight about? It's always something. It's who left the dishes in the sink too long. It's something that just sets everyone off at some point. It's always something small. But, but, but Nick, I have this theory that the honeymoon phase lasted longer back in the day because they weren't in constant contact, you know, with each other. See, that's a good point. I didn't even think of that.

It's like, what, man, my dad, my dad, you know, called her after work or told told them to meet her at the, you know, bar or something to get a drink or told her, you know, hey, I'll see you Thursday night for dinner at 8 p.m. at at, you know, you know, Billie Jean's restaurant like.

And then and then all week, you know, you're thinking about that person like oh my gosh I can't wait to see him and and like to see what they wear But now dude, you could be in constant contact to your DME. You're texting you're snapping your face time Do you think that's worse or better for us worse worse worse? Because then the other person can piss you off, you know quicker But is that better though? Because then you pull off the bit and then you're out quicker Nick you're a genius

Hey, I'm just saying like you, you find out way sooner. You get that ick a lot quicker. Nick's like, so that's why I'm single. Of course it's technology. You and me both bud. Um, anyways, that is funny. So basically family vacations, besties way in. Tell me on what day of your trip that you begin to fight if at all. And if not, uh, Nick and I are calling bullshit.

And tell me that basically I want you to give me some reassurance that it's okay to keep on going on family trips because we're already talking about doing a safari next year. Oh my gosh. We just had some people that they just went on a safari. That is a bucket lister. I don't have any interest in doing that though. I'm too scared of getting eaten by a lion. I'm going to send you some Instagram locations that I've seen that just looks stunning. And I'm just like,

It looks really, really cool. I mean, it looks really cool and pretty. I just going to Africa. It's just not on my bucket list. I know. Imagine pissing off like a family member. And then you're like, oops. You know, you push them over the railing. Left the tent open. Silverback's tearing them off. Silverback? Do you think a Silverback's in the Serengeti, bro?

Oh, that's cool. Anyways, anyways, I'm getting ahead of myself. All right, man. Well, I want to leave some space here for you and Craig to talk about some UFOs or whatever it is you guys are going to talk about. All right. We will talk to you next time, besties. All right, besties. Until Tuesday. The website is being almost, is almost done. So you, the shirts you keep asking about that was on Austin and Craig, they'll soon be available.

Yeah, we had a really, really fun photo shoot and a couple of the photos are cracking my ass up. So I can't wait to post those. Until next time, besties from the south of France, I'm going to have a little nightcap with my dad and then Betty by Nick. It was great talking to you, bud. Thanks so much. And enjoy the rest of the last, what, five days? Well, I'm going to talk to you again before it's over. All right. Well, I'll see you in a few days then. Cool.

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