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Yeah. I don't know why Nick writes his shit on here because it's the stuff that I haven't been great recently on staying away from stuff on Instagram. And my, it has flowed from my group chat that just ignores my rants now to what they have for a while to, I just send stuff to Austin now, but this like, does he, y'all, I'm not, does he do you got like five things today?

Yeah. Or more. But that they slipped in that, you know, they can put cutoffs, which is in all cars after 26 built after 2026. And I was like, I mean, technically even my Jeep right now. I don't get it. Computer.

So, like, in this... Basically, this budget bill that they just passed, inside of the funding bill is that all cars must require a cutoff. Like, basically, it can be remotely shut off by, like, any car made after 2026. So, like, the government or the state or cops can go on and hit a button, and your car would turn off. That is out of control. I definitely will probably...

I'll sell you my 96 Dodge for $1 million, Craig. No, I mean, that's where the value is going to be, like gas-powered trucks that are not attached to the internet. Well played, Nicholas. Well, my Jeep has the weather and shit on the screen and the internet. Yeah, mine does it.

Wow. So then what you're saying is that, because I've been thinking about a new car for ages, but I don't really want one because I don't need one. But when I do, it'll be 2025. And then I'll just hang on to that motherfucker, that MF-er, for as long as I possibly can. Well, technically, if you're buying in 2025, that will be the 2026 model. Yeah. So you better buy in 2024. I gotta buy 2024. The year of buying this car is upon me. We'll always have our golf carts. Our...

Or at least shielded from the man. Too soon, Gray. Too soon. I don't have a call card. How did you lose? What happened to yours? Are you serious? Oh, after the accident? Yeah. Oh. After I disconnect all of my devices from the internet. Except I can't because it's how my house properly functions. Yeah, we're all screwed. Even my golf cart charger is connected to my phone and I can run diagnostics on it.

Well, so much for that idea about them tracking, not tracking your golf cart. Yeah. Yeah. Austin, but my golf cart charger is connected to my phone, so maybe they can get into my golf cart. Harder. Wait, what do you, what do you mean your, your golf cart chargers connected to your phone? Why, why would that, why? So I can like see the status of its battery and like I can run diagnostics on it and stuff. Yeah.

I said, like, my whole... I was like, I want to plug... I want to live off the grid, but I also, like, all of my electronics and, like, my refrigerator and stuff. Like, everything's connected to the internet. Yeah. The one I don't understand is my security system. It really bothers me because...

I shouldn't be saying this on the wild web, but it's our besties. I don't think it's hardwired into like a landline. So if my Wi-Fi goes out, does my security system become ineffective other than noise deterrence? Like can it or like does it have cellular possibility? Like what happens if my like the power's out and you break into my house?

Other than you getting shot. Yeah, I was about to say, what sort of question is that? What state are you living in? You gotta hire Kevin McAllister. His Hollywood stars thing was sweet. Did you watch it? I did. And I didn't know he was married to that. I saw the video on Instagram. That sweet, sweet soul of an actress. Oh yeah, from Suite Life, right?

Yes. Is that dude? I couldn't place her, but all she did was bring like happy memories to my like, yeah. Sweet life of Zach and Cody. She's a, well, she, she like played, she played the heiress and she was like, you know, little miss Pris. She was like the Paris Hilton of that show. She was like, she was so good. I didn't know that they were married. They met on some movie. They did like five or six years ago. Like his return to Hollywood.

Well, guys, I then got real confused. I'm glad he only had kids with her, but like I got real confused as to him and Mila's Mila Kunis's timeline because I'm like, wait a minute, her and Ashton, you know, her first kiss was with Ashton when she was 15 and that show never ended.

So, like, did she, she was, like, had a full relationship and got married to Macaulay Culkin while filming that show, and then when they got divorced, she started to hook up with Ashton? Mila Kunis was married to Macaulay Culkin. Austin, I don't know why you decided to get on your phone during that, but. Because it, I. Macaulay Culkin was, or Culkin was married to Mila Kunis? Yes. Yeah, I didn't know that either. I did not know that. What?

Yeah, isn't that crazy? Really? Yeah, they were married. I initially got on my phone because I was going to go to my notes because there was something that I felt that tied into this that I wrote in my notes that I want to talk about next. And then I got distracted. In 2002, Mila Kunis and Macaulay Culkin first meet. Talk about a wildly spelled name, by the way, Macaulay Culkin. We'll talk about a wild name. They started a date in 2003. Yeah.

And they didn't come out until 2007 as dating. So they dated secretly for four years? That's wild. That's not the right math. So they never got married? Well, hold on. They were incredibly private. How old was she then? And then in 2011, they broke up. I remember hearing about their breakup and being like, I didn't even realize they were together. So they dated for...

I mean, a while. It looks so young. And then... Mila Kunis on horrible breakup years ago with Holly Culkin. I think that's when he went in. I don't know when he started to go. Well, he had a rough childhood. Because his parents essentially forced him and his brother into acting and everything. And then kind of rode his celebrity. That's why he got into drugs and everything. She...

She said I was an asshole in my 20s. I'll be the first to admit it. It's fucked up what I did and it's fucked up how I did it. But at the end of the day, I mean, if you want to break up with someone, yes, there's like gentler ways to do it, but it's no one's fault. You know, I mean, like, sure, if you start cheating on someone, I'm not saying that's what happened here, then that's fucked up. But like, you know, breaking up with someone, it's not easy for either person. And like, at the end of the day, you can't fault them.

Like it's got to end at some point. But anyway. Yeah. I mean, I feel like we give this advice to so many, you know, listener questions and now we're, and now we're, you know, basically talking about two actors, you know, relationships who had to break up. Well, like Neymar just had a, you know, the soccer player, like he had a baby a few weeks ago and him and his girlfriend are already broken up because they

I think he broke their rule, which was like, you can't kiss the other girls on the mouth during sex. I think he was allowed to have sex with other girls, but he wasn't allowed to kiss them and he wasn't allowed to talk to them after. I mean, basically it was like he was not allowed to develop feelings for these people. Right. And so they're broken up. But like...

And then I saw something saying that he was trying to timestamp it. He was like, I'm pretty, she, he was like, this is from years and years ago before I even met my girl. And then I stopped paying attention to it. You know, basically I was like, oh my gosh, that is a whole nother level of scandal that he has going on. I didn't have terrible that that would be, he has a kid and then you just have millions upon millions of people who are just like, yeah,

Trying to weigh in on his infidelity, if it's true or not. Yeah. I mean, those guys, when you're that top tier athlete, I feel like it's just not pretty. Whatever you do to make it work, good on the ones that have survived it. But I mean, talking about that big of celebrity and relationships...

You have your favorite person, Taylor Swift. But I didn't realize it, but she's rumored to be in Deadpool 3, which I didn't realize they were making. So that's pretty awesome. You didn't know that? I mean, after the ending. They're basically, they, Ryan Reynolds and, come on, Nick, what's his name?

Hugh Jackman. And Hugh Jackman announced their partnerships. And now Wolverine is going to be in Deadpool 3. And that was a big announcement. But I swear that they announced that like what feels like, you know, freaking two years ago. Like it literally feels like they announced this so long ago. Do you think she's in the top 10 most famous people of the last hundred years?

do i think that taylor swift is one of the most famous people from the past 10 years or sorry 100 years i think i think we'll have to say yes yeah without before this last tour she her and bieber were kind of like the same level but now after this worldwide tour i think so i think everyone in the world knows who taylor swift is

I think that she might be the singular most famous people, famous person on planet earth. I mean, dude, Leo Messi is up there, right? I mean that, that dude, just like an international. Well, I'll give you some, I'll give you some people to put her against Gandhi, which a lot of people don't know who Gandhi is. I mean, the world's pretty stupid now. I mean, you make that face, Nick, but like the tick tock generation doesn't know Gandhi is.

But they must know that name. History has gotten erased out of schools. They don't teach it in school anymore. And unless it becomes popular on TikTok, they don't know about it. Unless it becomes popular on TikTok. I'm telling you people, tell us if you love real. I mean, they barely teach the Holocaust now. Like, I think someone said it's too messed up to teach the Holocaust in schools now, which is the dumbest thing in the entire world. All right, yeah, move on before we get into that topic.

Well, I'm just saying, I don't think a lot of people think no, I put Taylor Swift over Gandhi for this generation. Well, of course for this, you know, generation, but like, you have to go back to like, you know, you have to ask our parents too. Right. You're like, do you, do you think, right. Because they know, you know, these people, because our parents, they know Gandhi idiots. They're big Gandhi people. Our folks are big on Gandhi. Yeah.

all right but you've got like martin luther king michael jordan tiger woods elvis beatles oprah einstein einstein you just you just threw that in there okay einstein i mean i guess elvis is up there tiger woods is up there michael jordan beatles martin luther king's amazing but outside of the u.s i don't know

Michael... Wait, did you say MJ, dude? MJ was up there. Yeah, Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods. Yeah. Elvis. I feel like people... Oprah at her prime was worldwide. But do you think that Taylor Swift is bigger than Michael Jordan was in his 1994 Dream Team era? Like that man was...

No, I don't think she was because at the time everyone knew. Everyone knew. Yeah, you're giving Michael Jordan his era now. Everyone knew like our sources of mainstream entertainment. Like we didn't have phones. So people would turn their TV on and there's Michael Jordan. There's Oprah. Or Elvis. Yeah. Elvis was – I wonder what his international fame was. I think it was huge, man. Like people who –

you know, don't even speak English and all these things like, you know, they knew like his moves like, huh, you know, Elvis, right? And it's like, that was like the English word that they know is Elvis.

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At least that's what a movie told me one time. I haven't watched the Elvis movie. I just like, I can't do it. Like I, I can't with the actor. Yeah, I know him. I get it. Like he, and now like every role that guy does is he's Elvis and like every role.

I was never an Elvis fan. I think he's cool, but like, well, I respect. I wasn't hearing it, but yeah, me too. You know, who is, is, is Whitney dude. Elvis fan. And I, and I don't know why I don't understand. Cause like I put it on.

And I don't like it. I just don't like it. I like it. He's got that one song that I like, the love song. Whitney wears his necklace, like Elvis's necklace. Like the necklace that Elvis used to wear is what Whitney wears on his neck. It's a lightning bolt. And yeah, Whitney wears it. I think that Patricia bought it from an auction. But anyway, Steve loves them. It's like the real deal necklace. Yeah, it's a real deal necklace. It's not like a $50, you know.

lookalike sort of lookalike here let's steal it yeah I was gonna say everybody freak him out great and God maybe you give Whitney a freaking you know guitar and just say Elvis and go thank you thank you very much like the man loves him some Elvis and you know what let him love Elvis very good very talented guitar player around the time the Elvis one came out is when the

Madonna movie came out and that was fucked up. Who played Madonna? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It did not get good reviews. No, not Madonna. I think that Ana de Armas. I'm so stupid. Oh, you're talking about Marilyn Monroe? Yeah, I was going to say Madonna.

Anna. Anna de Armas, I think, was actually Marilyn Monroe. Well, because people can't handle their shit. It was Blondie, right? Movie critics, like, I hate that we even give them any credit on here. It was a great movie. She, like, yeah, people are like, we don't like seeing fucked up shit. And you're like, well, fucked up shit happened to her. And it was terrible. Yeah. Well, they said she was really good. I didn't watch it.

Also, I don't know why. I think it was just good marketing by their stuff. Like they were saying it was like NC-17. Yeah, some of the rape scenes were pretty bad. Well, that's why. I didn't see it. Damn. But it wasn't for graphic or anything. I mean, I had to walk out of the room three times. Really? It was uncomfortable is what it was. Yeah, that's why it was. With like JFK and all.

That makes me uncomfortable as shit. And yeah, like you put that in a movie or something, you know, it's like you want to cover up your eyes and be like, la la la la la la la. But it happens. We'll take another quick break and we'll be back with some bestie questions.

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All right, what's up besties and welcome back to this episode of Pillows and Beer. I'm Austin joined by Craig and Mr. Nick Norris and Craig and I are both in Charleston so this is lovely but we're gearing up to go to New York and we are going to answer some bestie questions and hang out with y'all as long as we can before we have to go up and yell at each other. Okay, I'm a mental healthier, not the case. Okay, so my bestie and I have been going through it.

We have been together 12 years. Oh, okay. So my husband and I have been going through it. We've been together for 12 years. We recently had a baby and grew apart immensely. Now we're at a point of focusing on our relationship and trying to rebuild it, but really struggling at getting our sex life exciting again. Any tips on ways to be seductive to get us back in the groove?

I am not qualified to answer this, but I will love to attempt to fumble through it. And I want to hear Craig's first.

first. Neither of us are. I think, well, this is what came instantly to my head and I'm sorry to hear that, but it's nice. I am. Congratulations on doing the work because I think there are ups and or ebbs and flows and ups and downs and walls in relationships. I mean, it's science. It's been written about. It's human nature, but doing the work and you can

I mean, you just hear like the most fun stories after people get through these. I think sexting is huge. And even if you feel uncomfortable doing it and shy doing it, I think that you should figure out how to sext or watch porn together or send each other porn videos that you like. There's an incredible app.

that me and Paige actually have for fun. We don't, we fell off using it. Um, but it is called paired P A I R E D. And you both have it on your phone and you play short little like five minute quiz games. Uh, you answer questions and you get to see if your questions and answers match. You get to see what you're like,

partner might be into that you've like, like, because it's a very secretive thing that you fill out, but then it like, I like this idea, dude. Once again, this seems like an ad, but it, but it's not, um, that is great idea. Okay. Yeah. It's a great app. It's called paired and yeah, you're right. Like we do not, we always push, we don't have, but it's such a good app. Um, that, um,

It's cool. Is it like light-hearted and fun games, Craig? Or is it like real serious shit? Like where do you see yourself in five years and how many kids do you want? Or is it like a light-hearted –

No, it's, it's for, in my opinion, it's for couples who are already like in a strong relationship and it's like, how do we take it to like, how do we stay strong? How do we not like let our momentum start to drift? How do we not long? Um, not strong, strong, but like, like I, for me, I want to use it for someone I wasn't dating. Yeah. Yeah.

um like you know dating seriously and planning to date you know seriously which is exactly what we're seeing here with the 12-year relationship but there's like some naughty things like because you can they're like there's one thing that you can be like yes i'm into it or maybe because i've thought about it or like no and then it'll show you know ones that you both clicked like maybe on and you're like oh my gosh i didn't know that you would be into that or like

and it's not just sexual it's like what things are important to you so i think it's it's an app that could really help you um but yeah we're not qualified so i know i think i know that that is that that is outside of my range i mean craig is better equipped because he is in like a long-term you know relationship so but it sure is 12 you know 12 right with a kid that's also happened so

I am not even going to attempt to answer it and I'm sorry, but I am so not like equipped for this. And I, but, but I'm, I'm, I'm very happy. Yeah. Cause what you're trying to do it right. Because, you know, for someone like me, like I want to see that I'm like, yes, it is out there and it does, it does, you know, exist and, and, and I can find it. Right. So I think, well, you know, it's crazy. I'm,

Two and a half years in, and I think this is my longest relationship ever. What's your guys' longest relationship? Mine's probably like 18 months straight. Not like breaking up and getting back together and all that stuff.

Paige had that answer too. She was like, this is my longest relationship straight. And I was like, what does that mean? And she's like, she's like, well, you know, like when we didn't break up and get back together a lot and yeah, you get, you guys are similar in a lot of ways, but she was like, you know, like high school or college or whatever. Yeah. That, that cracks me up. All right, Craig, you want to read number two? This is a good one. Speaking of literally one of the questions that I just asked.

I would love to hear you guys talk about your five-year plans. That's a good question. Yeah, it is a good question. It's something that I think about more and more, right? Where like it used to be the most, you know, eye roll question possible, right? You're like, oh my God, is this person really asking me this? Or like, you know, you don't want to think about it because you don't want to think ahead to, you know, the future. You're like, why do I have to think about the future when I can, you know, barely pay my rent now? But it is something that,

I think about a lot. Craig, do you have a, yeah, I think there's, and then I'll slide in with chip skis. They make it so easy. And we know that we can just use the service, get our skis there undamaged. And then all we have to do is worry about our personal luggage. It's made life so much easier. So this year, for instance, when we go to Aspen, whenever that is, we will be using ship skis. It has completely changed the game for us these past few years.

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This is one... Do not slide into me, Austin, please. This is one that I'm going to say...

do as I say and not as I do because I'm only learning to set goals or I'm only learning that a goal only becomes a goal when you write it down. Five years for me is, yeah, my honest answer would be I would have a child and be married if we're saying five years because I would be 40. And I think by 40, I- How old is your child in five years? One. Okay.

I think the business hopefully is at the next level or two where it's turning into a national to international like supplied, you know, home decoration company. And I think in those five locations. Well, I think it will be like is in your mind. I mean, I know that you think about it.

Well, now it's more distribution. So we'll be in like thousands of like Kroger stores and stuff around the country. The Nashville store will be in the next two years as a goal. Not the next year, probably the next two years. But I think the next three years are like Paige starting a company and then we're both like...

traveling a lot individually trying to build our business and career. Like where I see us dating long distance, like exactly like what we're doing for another year or two or three, seeing if one of us gets like a host job in TV or like, you know, I,

I think it's career driven the next three years. I think we're going to really focus on our individual careers and then hopefully have a kid. I don't know. I don't know if any of that makes sense, but it's tough. It's something that I wouldn't have thought of unless I was forced to. No, I, I appreciate the honest response and, you know, actually thinking about it in the way that, you know, you did and like you kind of worked, worked through it, you know, with us here now, uh,

It's different for me because I don't have an immediate partner. I don't have that person right now that I'm like, "Okay." So I have to think about my future with someone in particular. But I feel- Yeah, that's tough. No, it's tough and it's not. So it's like I'm not sitting here being like, "Okay, I think that I'm going to have a kid in five years." But I do see myself

like settled down and with someone who has like a like mind of mine that does want to

maybe have kids, but not being like, okay, like my eggs are, you know, losing it here, man, let's go. Like someone who, you know, so like, I mean, geez, I mean, that's tough to say to have a kid in five years. So I'm not, I'm going to say that I have found, you know, someone, but I feel like Craig and I are entering into a new, you know, business venture together as well that we're going to talk about, you know, more and more, but I hope that that

it really has some potential to do some things and take us to some cool places and like expand into different you know cities and i feel like one of the early combos that you know we always had you know with that craig was you know what if you know this this business venture kind of you know grows into like a new city and like what's the opportunity to like own property there or live there and um

I think that that like that is something that I think about a lot. Yeah. Let's give everyone a hint. I have a fun hint for our besties. And it's not just, you know, hinged on that. Right. Because yeah. Okay. Well, we'll give people a hint and I'm just, you know, my hint is that you can drink at me and Austin's new business. All right. Well, as Austin just leaves this computer desk, we're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back.

Yeah. It could be a lot of different things, but you can drink there. Welcome back from our commercial break. Obviously we didn't do a formal welcome back there. No, I mean, I would love to, like when we do the Nashville store, like, you know, have like an Airbnb and there's, you know, expand our footprint. I was, oh shit. That's so true too, Craig. And one of the things that I wanted to say was that, yeah,

I mean, I know it sounds so like, you know, baseline, but even buying property, right? So like have, you know, assets and buying like a rental property. Like these are things that I, you know, think about and want to focus on moving forward, right? Because, you know, I mean, I asked Craig, you know, how many years in the rear view mirror does he see charm? And, you know, it won't be forever, right? So what if you- But like, I want to add three rentals- You know, comfortably from there. Yeah. Like I want to add three rentals

at least three doors to my portfolio this year. I think my parents just asked what happens if I find like a multi-door project. And I said, well, I have a great investment group now with like Austin and Jerry and his friends that like we can work on stuff together. I think we'd continue to develop businesses together. One thing I have to give,

JWoww a shout out because at the variety dinner JWoww was one of the best freaking speakers ever. Really? She articulated our life in reality TV and challenges that we have in such a beautiful way. She you know got back into TV and you know I used to say like I'd never have a kid on TV but she was like look.

When my child was diagnosed with autism, I had to decide whether to like show it to the world or not. And she goes, all of a sudden reality TV shows,

became something more than just a paycheck she's like instead of just the money and doing it for the money all of a sudden I could change people's views or enlighten people about sensory sensitive children and she's like I like again she said it so much better but she's like our reach and how many people watch our lives and watch us go through stuff she was like we can actually

like help people and spread like there's so much other things that come from reality when you've been there for so long so i mean who knows that sounds that was awesome that that she was able to say that to you know that room because i guess you got divorced on camera got married again on camera um wow she's yeah she i didn't get a chance to speak with her but

I did get to speak with Cammie from Catfish. I was like, hey, Cammie, I love your freaking show. And she's like, I love your show too, Greg. And I said, thank you, Cammie. Do you watch Catfish, Austin? No. Well, I've seen a few episodes. I've seen a few episodes. It was on the other day. What's our friend from... Cammie's the new host, though. The girl. Yeah, okay. What's our friend from Norway's question? She's real pretty. She was Miss USA.

You just answered it. It was the five-year question. Oh, yeah. So to answer that too, I really do think in my heart of hearts that Trap Hop will be a thing still. Well, yeah. What's your plan for that? For me... Trap Hop is officially back.

been able to make a whole bunch of hires with it. And I would love to be like countrywide, you know, I mean, to be in like 35 out of 50 or in 55 of 50 States. I mean, that is what the goal is. And you watch a lot of other people in the beverage industry and you just realize how tough it is. And it's probably like, you know, my hat goes off, you know, to Kyle, right. And again, cause like his shit is all over the place, but that's like,

DJ Kyle Cook. And because it's incredibly fucking difficult and you need a great, great team behind you. And I'm actually very excited. So I just feel like that is something that I've been too passionate about to let fall by the wayside. But I mean, there are so many other things like this new project that Craig and I are working on and investment opportunities here and there.

and things like that. And I just feel like, um, I feel like life is going to be good and more, um, you know, get up more clarity for sure in five years. Well, tomorrow's the next day of the rest of your life. That's what I always remember. And you want to try to take more steps forward than you do back. Uh, I want to add to the, anyone with dating that wants to spice up their dating life a little bit. The adventure challenge is also really fricking cool, uh,

Also not a sponsor, but it's a book and it comes with a camera and you scratch off like a lottery ticket, one of 50 things in the book. And it's got a challenge for you to do as a couple or a date idea or something to try in bed. And then you take a Polaroid picture of it and you put it in your book. So that's called the adventure challenge. Something that's really neat. Okay. Another question.

I like question number four, Craig. What do you like? Yeah, I don't have an answer to that. I mean, it's a good question, but... Read what you want to. Have you two ever tried Kama Sutra? I'm thinking of getting it for my wife for Christmas to try to spice things up. What are your thoughts? I mean, no. I've never pulled out the Kama Sutra and been like, let's do this.

I mean, is it just like a picture book with different positions or is it like actually like a book that describes these positions? I don't think anyone knows. So like I mean, obviously, I don't know. It is a I think it's an it's like it's a myth. It's a it's a it's a myth.

But clitoris is not a myth. Please. I am kidding. Okay, God, you are going to be slaughtered. I know what it is. I just haven't read her.

It was basically the first erotic text. It's like a sexual guidebook. I think it's fun. You know, you're not doing exercises to be attracted to each other. You're doing exercises to get closer. And like, it's really fun being naked with someone. So like,

And like, if your partner proposes something, it's not like, oh, well, he's only doing this or she's only doing it because they don't like regular sex with you. Like, you're just kind of enlightening yourself and having...

more fun. And I think that's why doing one of these challenge books or doing that app paired is a little better than just throwing, like if you Google it right now, like 17 sexual positions from Kama Sutra, like some are absurd. And I think that there's probably a book out there. It's a lot of writing makes it I'm reading one right now. That's got fun adventure. It's all just descriptions. So Craig, you, you are familiar with the Kama Sutra.

No, not, not in the context of this question. Like I haven't put any effort into reading or not, you know, something that you should do. Um, I would say from a guy's perspective, but a girl's also YouTube or Google massage techniques. Um,

knowing how to give a massage is one of the coolest things that you can pull out of your back pocket. And it's really not that hard. Um, and massages can be very sexual. So like get something massage oil and I don't know, it's, that's an easy one too. Uh, but you have to look up what you're doing and, you know, you can learn in five minutes. Contact hand to body contact. Yeah. Or body. Yes. Skin to skin contact is what you're looking for. That's true. Oh,

But yeah, I think that's great, Austin. Any fun? Are you going to stay in New York between and our show in New Orleans? Yeah, I'm going to be in New York until Saturday. I'm going to fly straight to New Orleans, actually. So Nick, let's chat offline. Wait, Craig, are you also coming on Saturday? I come Sunday morning.

Sunday morning. Okay. So Nick, we'll chat, come in on Saturday night. I'm very excited. I'm also really excited, Craig, for, I mean, New York, not in the sense that I'm excited for the reunion, you know, at all, but like to be in New York for a couple of days during Christmas time is going to be awesome. Oh, I'm going to give a shout out to another app too. Cause this Corona thing.

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Nick, what's your website? Hawkeyeoutdoorliving.com. Oh, yeah. Hawkeyeoutdoorliving.com. Hawkeyeoutdoorliving.com. Hawkeyeoutdoorliving.com. Our tailgater fire pits are perfect under the tree grift. Yeah, they are. Congrats on all the trade shows you've been doing. Yeah, they're fun. And Austin, let's do a – I just came up with this, but let's do a retreat sometime soon.

Where me, you and Nick go in the mountains and just podcast. I mean, that sounds like we should find somewhere that has some snowfall and go and do that. Yeah. That's nice.

All right. Till next week, besties. That was a nice thought. It's a nice thought to close this out there. Yeah. We're not going to do it, but it'll be cool. Yeah. Everything that we say we'll do on this podcast will never happen. Craig's like wild. Like ambition just comes from, I mean, I understand that I am the worst, you know, salesman, but Craig's just wild. Like, Hey, you're like, yes, Craig. He's like, we, we should go to the North pole sometime. It's like, see if it's real.

where and why well we'd have to pass the ice wall the ice wall is crazy you can go to look at that shit on TikTok the ice wall they're keeping us you two at least gotta come to Charlottesville one of these days there's a whole hidden there's a whole hidden city past the ice wall like a whole town probably the North Pole I'm gonna be bored in January come say hi you always say come say hey to Nick come say hey

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