Take Some Pride In Your Defense (WNBA Finals Special)
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If I was Sandy Brandello, I'm saying, you guys...

need to get a stance and play better defense because I saw Cheryl's boots near our bench and I was about to sub her in. - This is Queens of the Court.

What's going on, everybody? Welcome to another episode of Queens of the Court, an Odyssey original podcast produced in partnership with the WNBA. And yes, y'all are getting my Las Vegas late night, early morning voice after the first game. This is your girl, Cheryl Swoops. And I'm Jordan Robinson. And court isn't efficient.

This is a rushed court session. Cheryl is like fresh off the plane. I feel like you still have the wrapper of your plane snacks in your pocket. Like this is a fresh recording. And then I'm about to leave to go to Vegas. So we had to find the perfect time to talk about this game. You're talking about a wrapper. I got slobber, eye boogers and everything.

Let's not talk about rappers. Let's talk about that. But I will say this. So well worth it, though. I'm not as young as I used to be, so my body doesn't recover as quickly. But I had a blast just being in Arena. So good. So good. Well, we're going to talk about it because we're going to break this episode up into two parts. The first part is vibes. The second part, we're going to talk tactics, X's and O's. But just off of vibes...

You're sitting courtside with LeBron James. LeBron James. LeBron James. No, he was sitting courtside with me. Oh. Okay. But go ahead. Let's get it straight. Let's get it right. My apologies. It's okay. It's okay, Jordan. My apologies. I'm so glad you were there, though, because just...

explain if you can the vibes of that arena. Again, the WNBA finals are underway. Vegas leads one Oh best of five series after beating the New York Liberty 99 82 on Sunday. But I felt it through the screen. But what was it like being there? The vibes, the atmosphere, the excitement, the energy, the people, the

Everything, everything about being in arena said, one, we've arrived is what I felt like, right? Like we're here. This is where we're supposed to be. I'll tell you this. I was talking to some OG fans from back in the day who said this arena and this game so reminded me of like Houston Comet days back in the day, which I

And I'm sure there are people who really don't remember what that was like, but for, for me being a former player, right. Having played for the comments and played in several finals, like that to me was the best way to sum it up. It's such a huge compliment. It just was from the time you walked in there, even before the players came out, just everything was, it was just so good. And it's,

Here's what we didn't have, though. We had NBA players who came and supported and they were there, but it's a different level now. You've got the GOAT Tom Brady sitting on one side of the floor. You've got the GOAT LeBron James sitting on one side of the floor. It just was...

It was a party. You know what I mean? And then Jordan Sparks, who I thought crushed the national anthem. Ashanti, like...

It was a vibe. It was a party. It was everything. Yeah, it was everything. Well, first of all, I wish that we were able to see Jordan Sparks sing the national anthem and see the concert. I mean, we got LaChina Robinson. I love her. I got you. We had the whole WNBA countdown. But I was like, dang, I wanted to see Ashanti. Yeah.

Oh, I know. I don't know what she's eating, doing, whatever, but... No, she looks great. She looks amazing. She was so snatched from head to toe. And, like, I'm old school, so I'm an Ashanti fan. I'm a Jordan Sparks fan. Like, the national... I was like, Jordan can't...

He held the national anthem. I don't know. I am so mad that I won't be there with you for game two, but you got to hold it down. We got a tag team. We got a tag team. I know. We got to go back and forth. No, I'm so excited to experience all those vibes for game two. But I think what I was also excited about was that the game itself, like the basketball itself, lived up.

to the sold out crowd and all the hype and everyone saying that this was the script to have Aces and Liberty in the finals like it was like it the game itself lived up to that and and even you know after the first quarter going into the second quarter I was like man this is some high level basketball being played with some of the best players in the world all on one court

Like, I think I also just had that moment where I just kind of sat back and was like, this is awesome. Like it was kind of like a pinch me moment, even as a fan, even from the media. No. And like the league or the commissioner, they, she can't say, yes, we want, we, we, we want New York in the finals. Right. Right. But it's such a good look for New York for the league. And to your point, like,

It was arguably the two best teams in the league this year. Yeah. You know, it's funny. I was sitting, I wasn't sitting next to LeBron, you know, it was two people in between us, but sitting there having a conversation with him about the game. He said, it's very, this is what he said. He said, it's very clear that,

That these are the two best teams in the league right now, because you have 10, 10 players on the floor at all times that are balling, right? Like that are, that are just hooping.

for me it was the first three quarters i thought it was exactly what we wanted what we needed what everybody wanted to see i thought the fourth quarter it was pretty much over right it was yeah but but but the first three quarters it just i jordan i haven't played ball and i don't know how long but sitting by the way in case this is a jeopardy question or trivia question so

supposedly where I was sitting, it's called Gucci Row. Stop. That's what Jennifer Azey said. Jennifer Azey said, Cheryl, we got you on Gucci Row. So I just put that out there in case that's a deputy question one day. So, you know, right? Not Gucci Row. Dang. I don't know where Gucci Row came from, but that's what she said. But I will say this. Sitting there, like,

next to you know Sandy and hearing her and watching her and her element and the players going in and coming out of the game there was a moment for me where I like I was like put me in coach let's go put me in Sandy the Liberty a day of my life but yesterday I was like come on coach I might be able to give you five good minutes let's go

Well, they definitely would have needed your defense. We're going to talk about that in a little bit. That was just the environment though. You know what I mean? Like the atmosphere, you just felt like you were, you were like there in the moment. It was a great game one. Everything about it was just, it was just good.

You also got to talk to Asia briefly after the game. Could you share kind of what you guys talked about? What you told her? No, I cannot. I will say this. I will say this. So Asia reached out to me last week. She just sent me a text and was like, hey, I just want to talk to you about repeating. Right? Like, what does it take? And so we had a conversation about,

And I won't tell you everything, but what I did say is this. I said, listen, at this point of the season, it's the finals. Like schemes don't matter. You got to hoop, right? Because y'all know the Liberty. The Liberty, they know y'all. It's basketball, right? At this point, it's all about who wants it more. Who's going to give that little extra? Like what edge do you have over this?

not just the team, but over the player that's guarding you and the player that you're guarding. Like to me, it's all of those like little things at this moment and the intangibles that separates who, if the aces will repeat or if New York will get their first championship. So it was, and so after the game, I just hugged her and, you know, I was like, got game one basically. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

You got to. And then I did. I just I said to her, I said, but you can't. And Asia's not that type of player. But I said, you can't be satisfied with getting game one. Right. Because New York, I know we'll get into it. I did not. I thought the first three quarters were great. New York, to me, just looked like a different team. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I, I agree. Yeah.

Not in a good way. No, no. Listen, I'm going to say this and whether we're there or not, we're going there. Yeah. JJ has to stand up out trouble. She has to stand up out trouble. She has to be on the floor because I don't, I don't think when, when Asia, not Asia, when the game starts, right. When Kia is defending JJ, I think JJ has the advantage, right?

And even when Asia is guarding JJ, JJ couldn't be as aggressive because she was in foul trouble, right? She has to stand in foul trouble. And then I kept wondering, where's Benajalini, right? Like, where is she? And it's, she had this look on her face, the whole game of like, what's wrong with me? Do you know what I mean?

oh interesting benija did yeah not in a bad way but like like me saying where's benija i kind of felt like she was in her head saying trying to get herself going though right like like i know my team needs me um but i'm gonna skip over everybody else and say this johannes is a bucket

I am not the person or player to say, you know, change things up when you get to the finals. But I will say this. She needs to, Sandy has to find a way to give her more minutes on the floor and not the bench. Because, listen, I mean, she's shooting to the left, three's off of one left.

Close her eyes at one point. I was like, no, I'm just kidding. Listen, no, I love that kid. I'm just like, you've got five more minutes for her. And it's my thing is like, it seems like she just keeps her as their assassin and then is like, okay, we're playing the aces. Let's bring out Johannes because literally she had five points in the playoffs total and

And then she comes in and scores nine, like in, I don't know, six minutes, something insane like that. She had 14 and 11 minutes, like just a microwave type player. One of the best players to come out of France. And you just have her just kind of heating up on the bench waiting for

for them to play the aces. And I, Becky Hammond said it when she was mic'd up during the game. She was like, Johannes just loves to play against us. Yeah.

like the scouter report is like her verse everybody else and her verse the aces it specifically so it was beautiful to watch though it was beautiful i i think it was also just you know we talk about just the exciting time of the league and all those people there and a lot of eyes watching the finals to be able to have johannes kind of put on that type of show

showing off her athleticism, showing off of what she can do. I just feel like that also just quiets a lot of haters of like, this game is exciting because of players like Johannes, because of the superstars that we're going to talk about. But before we go to break, your traveling schedule is hard to keep up with.

But before you were in Vegas, you were also in the Bay Area. Yeah, yeah. How about that? How about that? How about that? The WNBA has officially announced a new expansion team. I can't believe this day is finally here. Yeah.

It's coming in 2025, a new team in the Bay Area, but you are also sitting near the front row during that press conference. Talk about vibes there. How did that feel? Excitement. Like excitement when you walked in before you even got inside. Everybody was just like, this is really happening. This is really happening. That's probably the first time people have walked into the Chase Center and they weren't like excited.

excited to see Steph Curry or trying to see where Steph was, right? Because it was all about the W in expansion. I am super excited, right? I'm excited because, and I tweeted this, more jobs, more opportunities, more players, like all of that excites me. But just investment in the game, investment in women and

I mean, I said this the other day to someone. I think the Aces organization, Mark Davis, what he's done, what he continues to do to elevate women and grow the game is remarkable. Like, hands down, the best organization in the league. But I also said at the press conference, I could see this Bay Area team, since we don't know the name, being...

on the same level as Mark Davis and the aces, if not, if not better. And they're, they're totally committed to bringing the best, having the best. And you know, when, when you put it out there and say, we're going to win a championship in five years. Yeah. You're wanting to be the best. You're kind of putting it out there a little bit. Yeah. It was, it was beautiful.

And it's so exciting, too, because on that same day, you know, the Phoenix Mercury announced that they're getting a hundred million dollar practice facility. And then we see this press conference and then we see Tom Brady's official buy in is legit with the Aces.

this is what we have talked about and dreamed of. Like it's happening when we talked about, you know, the charter flights and how in the NBA, it was owners trying to one up each other. And then that's how we got to the NBA as today we're getting there. And I, I,

I love it. That's what I want. More money into the WNBA, more expansion teams. And, you know, 13 teams is an odd number. So potentially there's going to be a 14 team come 2025. Portland has been thrown out there, but it's not official yet. I don't know where these people get their like inside information. Yeah.

Because it was like Portland's the next team. I'm like, dang, where'd the two get that from? At the press conference, they were like, hey, Sacramento's right down the road. I was like, yeah, let's go. Bring back the Monarchs. I'll put my little $20 in. We'll see if it happens. It might happen. I'd love to see it. I would. You know, because it actually, like expansion's great. So wherever there's a team,

And I know a lot of people are like, no, not Bay Area. Here's my thing. It's perfect. I don't really care where it is. I just care that it's expansion. It's another team. It's more jobs. It's more opportunity. But it hurts me that the teams in the beginning, who especially the ones that won championships, Sacramento Monarchs, Houston Comets, how do we not have a team anymore?

I know. I think you can't help but think about those teams past when new teams are added. Oh, sure. Sure. It's just like a natural progression of thought. But I'm excited. We can workshop some some ideas for team names. I'm sure they I kind of wish they would have had a name and a logo and really get excited about it. But it's okay. I also don't want them

to rush it so it's fine it's fine the check cleared so kathy was like let's let's do this it's exciting i'm so happy you were there i'm so happy that you got the loudest applause out of everybody introduced i don't know if you noticed that but us watching we definitely noticed it um so yeah i was like i thought malika was gonna say cheryl swoops and co-host of queens of the court

You know what? I'm going to add that though. I need that to start being a part of my intro. Yeah. Let them know. I did an interview and we were talking about the game and the podcast. And so I was like, yeah, but before I finish, you know, I got to give a shout out to. Thank you for the shout out. Of course.

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Okay, welcome back to Queens of the Court. And now I want to pick...

you were talking about goats sitting courtside. You are a goat and you were sitting courtside. So I know your basketball brain was also just turning as the game was going on. And as I was yelling at the TV and as my husband was yelling at the TV, I'm sure you were, were, were had some ideas of what was going right and what was going wrong. So I just want to kind of pick your brain on the game again, because,

The Aces won 99-82. I feel like that score is a little closer than, like you mentioned, what it kind of got away to in the fourth quarter. But what went right for the Aces? Let's start there. I'm not being funny. First of all, the fans, right? Like, that's big time. Game one at home, sellout, energy, all of that. I would say the guards, right?

For the aces, in particular, Jackie Young. Chelsea Gray. Because I didn't think Kelsey came on until, I mean, into the second quarter, but really the second half. So, but Jordan, if you remember when we talked about this matchup, my opinion, I have to say that because I need people to know this is my opinion, not anybody else's.

But my opinion was the aces, their advantage is in their guard play. And if their guards come to play and they utilize them and they do what they do night in and night out, the Liberty guards will struggle to defend them with the exception of Benaja Laney. Because Benaja is a big guard, right? Benaja can guard one, two, three. She can guard you on the post. Right.

But with Sloot and Sabrina, to me, that's where the mismatch is. Because Jackie Young is a big, strong guard, right? And if you're going to put Benaja on Chelsea to try to slow her down and take her out in the flow and affecting her getting them in their sets, then that means Sloot or Sabrina is going to be on Jackie Young. And to me, either one of them guarding her

is to Jackie's advantage. She's quicker, so she can go by, she can take them down low, she can post up. So that's the first thing I think. Second thing I think that went right for the Aces would be their guard play.

Yeah. Can I say a stat real quick just on that exact point? So this is from ESPN. Las Vegas Aces hit 11 of 12 shots from the field, four of four from three-point range when contested by Sabrina Inescu or Courtney Vandersloot. Like that...

One, we could see that past the eye test because of just what you were saying. Like we could see that the Aces guards were taking advantage of those matchups. But then to go back and have the stats really back that up. Like they were feasting and like foaming at the mouth when they were switched on to those two. Just this alone, Chelsea Gray, Kelsey Plum, Jackie Young, 72 points combined. Yeah.

You have UNESCO, but Nigel Laney, Vander Sloot, 28 points. And Johannes, what did Johannes end up with? 14. Yeah. Right. Like by her, by herself. 14 and 20 minutes. Yeah. And so when, because I'll, I'll talk about the Liberty when we're ready. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So just going, I think my opinion of what went right was that,

Asia had that look in her eyes. Oh, no doubt. I am the leader of this team. I am going to hit these mid-range jumpers. I am going to steal it and take it coast to coast. I'm also going to remind you that I'm the defensive player of the year, and I'm going to be tossing shots left and right to the first and fifth row. It was very, very much...

We are to your point, too. We're holding home court. These are our fans and we are making sure that we need to take care of business at home. They did not do that at the Commissioners Cup. They did not do that earlier in the season. So I felt like that was a.

emphasis in this game for sure for sure and and having that guard play and then having oh yeah by the way you know asia also had 19 points in 35 minutes like just everybody showed up and it was very much a statement game from the aces so yeah to your point jordan asia from warm-ups right she she had that look like i'm not coming to play with y'all today

I'm about my business and we're going to get it done. So she set the tone and everybody else

Just follow. And let me just talk about Alicia Clark coming in off the bench. Yeah. When we say guard play, I think sometimes we tend to forget about Alicia because Alicia is a guard. She's a forward. She's all of those things. But Alicia was huge for the aces yesterday coming off the bench, defending Stewie, which, you know, here's what I think. Because Stewie does have the size advantage on Alicia.

So I get concerned when Becky subs and now Alicia's having a Garth Stewie. But here's where I think Alicia has a little bit of an advantage. She played with her.

She played with her in Seattle. So she knows her game. She knows her moves. And she's a vet in this league. Alicia has a few little tricks up her sleeves that she pulls out when she's guarding Stewie. Yeah. I thought they were...

The Aces yesterday, they came out, they came ready to play. They set the tone early, even though it was a close game in the first half. But to me, it was very clear that the Aces wanted it more yesterday. Now, I do expect the Liberty to bounce back now.

Of course. And that's what I want to talk about because we talked about what went right for the Aces. And I want to talk about some things that went right for the Liberty, like Maureen Johannes. Like that was a huge step in the right direction. But what type of adjustments are they going to have to make? Because like you said, your advice to Asia, I think was perfect. It's not about the schemes at this point. You got to come out and hoop. And it doesn't seem like...

a lot of the guards for the Liberty really whooped like they needed to, to come up against this hungry aces team. So your opinion on the, on the Liberty. Listen, Stu, Stewie's the MVP. She won the MVP. It it's, it has to start with her. And, and I even talked to Stewie after the game a little bit, um, yesterday and, you know, she was just like, it happened. We'll come back.

But one thing I know about Stewie is not only losing the game, but the way they played. Like that doesn't sit well. So when I said earlier, they didn't look like the New York Liberty team that finished out the regular season. It was, I don't know. If Sabrina is not scoring the basketball on the offensive end,

I don't, I don't know how much more they get from her. Do you know what I mean? Because we just talked about the advantage on the defensive end. And if I'm, if I'm Becky and I go back and I look at film, right, I'm going to continue to attack with my guards. So when you talk about adjustments, part of it is, listen, you got to guard your woman one-on-one. You have to find a

And if you can't, then you got to go, Sandy, you got to go find somebody who can. So we talk about Johannes, not only playing her more for her offense, but at least she has size. She has length that you can put on Kelsey or even Jackie. But another player to me that I would love to see play more is Kayla Thornton.

I don't think we talk enough about her. Kayla can score. She's a big guard. She can post up. She defends. I just remember watching her play at Dallas and I loved her game. I loved how hard she plays. And like that's your matchup for Jackie Young. You know what I mean?

i think that's a great that is a great solution but then it's like and i feel like kayla can get hot too she can knock down the corner three she can score and the size is right there and and i i think

it was a I saw a tweet they were talking about you know all muscle team like Jackie Young and Kayla Thornton are on those teams because of their their strength that they bring on the floor I love that tweak I think another thing

Fun facts, because I got to bring the fun facts with you. Something about Breanna Stewart. You talk about her kind of calm demeanor after the game. Yes, it was a loss, but her record...

in the finals and in championship games, she don't really lose. This was the first time that she has lost. When she won those two championships in Seattle, they were sweeps. She won four national championships in college. Like when she gets to this point, she doesn't lose. And I know that she's going to be telling her team that, hey, hey, I don't lose now. I agree. I agree with all of that. But I'm going to go a different direction.

Okay. Yes. She's been there. Right. But at Seattle, she had Sue who was the lead, like Sue was the leader. Right. Like, like I've been here to come, come with me. I got you. Let me show y'all how it's done. Right. JJ's JJ's been there. Um, uh, Sloop has been there with Chicago. Yeah. But here, here's here to me, here's the difference. New, New York.

has never been there. And as much of the hype and we talk about the super teams being in the finals, like it's just beautiful. It's great for the game. There is pressure on New York because you also have to remember, I think we said this on the last podcast, New York is the only original team that has not won a championship.

So you have players, Spoon, Sue Wicks, Kim Hampton, you have players who are posting about just being proud as they should. And so you know these players are seeing this and they're not wanting to lose. They're not wanting to let these players down.

So when I talk about pressure, I'm not saying Stewie's putting pressure on herself, but there is pressure on Stewie saying, I got you. I know how to win. I've done it. I did it in college. I did it with Seattle. But this is a different squad. It is. And then you have two players who are vital parts of your team. That's Benijah and Sabrina, right?

They haven't been here. So that also added pressure. That's a really good point. And I feel like when Jonquil Jones at the start of the game, because again, you know, JJ, she finished with the double-double. Just...

I feel like she looked really comfortable at the beginning, but got a little frustrated with the refs and the foul calls. And that kind of took her out of her game a little bit. But if she, if she gets going, which I feel like she did, it was just kind of filling in the gaps. I know she was after the game. Like, I feel like I kind of did my part. Yeah.

I feel like I play pretty well. We all have to play well if we're going to beat this Aces team. Like it's all of us. And when you think of the times that they did win, they were shooting lights out. They couldn't miss. They were, you know, nobody had a bad game. And it took that to beat this Aces team. And so that is, that's what I see. One other thing from, let's put on the Coach Cheryl hat. This is one of my favorite hats.

What's one thing you're telling each of these teams before game two on Wednesday? I'll start with the aces. And this is what I tell my team. We have to win game two. And saying that, there really is nothing else that needs to be said. And if I'm Sandy with the Liberty, you know, because I'm going to get you going to be real. I would say we played well. Like we played well.

Not even really good, but we played well for two quarters. Third quarter in. Fourth quarter, again, I just thought the game was over. But we played well for two quarters, and we were right there with him, right? We've shown, we've proven that we can beat this team on their home court. Game two, I would not tell them that game two is a must win for them because you know you're about to go home. Yeah. Right? You're going home.

You should, if you take care of business, you should win at home. But, you know, you have, you have to have a conversation with, I think with this, with this team and, and talk to them about the moment. Do you know what I mean? Like, like, like what this moment means, how special it is. And we, we, we just, we, we have to get back to New York Liberty basketball because what they did yesterday was not New York Liberty basketball.

But you also lead them with confidence, right? Because you've beaten the aces. Yes. So you know that it's doable. I like it. If I was Sandy Brandello, I'm saying, you guys need to get a stance and play better defense because I saw Cheryl's boots near our bench and I was about to sub her in. Somebody got to stop Jackie Young. Listen, that's easier said than done.

Oh, I know. Everybody was in their bag for the aces. No doubt. No doubt. Here's the thing. Do you put Benijah on Jackie?

No, because then Chelsea Gray is going to go do her thing. She's going to go. But you saw Benaja getting frustrated when she felt like she was doing her assignment. And then she looks over to her left and Jackie Young getting a layup. Like you saw her get frustrated of like, take some pride in your defense. But if you have, if you have Kayla Thornton on Jackie Young, which I like that, what's the rest of that lineup in your opinion? Yeah.

I like JJ Stewie, right? That's like my four or five. I like Kayla Thornton as my three. I like Slue as my point guard. Go put her over on Kelsey. And then Benijah Laney. Okay.

That's the sub, which I feel I gotta watch the tape again. 'Cause I'm like, I feel like they want that in the second half, but it was too late. 'Cause Maureen Johanna, she came and she was, she subbed in for Sabrina and she got the scoring that was missing, but it was still the lack of defense on Jackie Young. So I like that. I wonder if Sandy Brandello, if you're listening, try that out for a couple minutes. Let's see. - I just, listen, when you talk about pride and to me,

That's what defense is all about. It's about pride. Like, you're not going to give me a 50 piece. I'm just saying, that's pride. Kayla Thornton has that pride. Kayla is like, oh, no, not on my watch. No, not today, boo-boo. But that's a good, that's a, listen, that's muscle on muscle. You know what I mean? Because, oh, Jackie, I need those arms. I know.

Yeah. She has been in the weight room. We have heard that story over and over and it shows. I love Asia, you know, after the game being like, I want her confidence to continue to grow. I want her to hoop and score. And I feel like that's the Jackie Young that we saw and we know and we love. Game two is on Wednesday.

In Vegas, I'll be there. Game three is on Sunday, October 15th. Game four, next Wednesday. We talked about it. It's a little more spread out, but I like it. I want this for seven games. I want five games. I'm begging for five games. We deserve five games. Let me add one thing before we go. Okay. Here's what's so tough about not playing Sabrina as much.

Because when she gets going offensively, it's like Sabrina's a bucket. Yeah. Right. When she gets when she gets going. But yesterday she could not get going. And the aces were all up in her space. So if if she's not scoring and knocking down those shots that she typically does, then she's not really giving you anything on the defensive end either. So you might need to make an adjustment.

That's all I'm saying. It's a tough adjustment to make, especially when you think about the last few times that she's been in that gym.

They got to guard her as soon as she gets through security. Like the three-point competition was in that gym. She won a Pac-12 championship in that gym. They beat the Aces on that court. So it's like I think it was a part of the Aces game plan to make sure that she doesn't get hot. And then when it worked, I think even them being like, okay, as Johannes beats us, we can live with that. You know, like that happens. That happens.

happen. But I feel like the aces game plan was we have superstars, you do superstar things. And that worked out was only a six player rotation. Becky Hammond doesn't go deep into her bench. We know that and the stars are starring. And I can't wait for game two. This has been fun. Cheryl, are you about to go on another plane?

Right now? I am. Not right now. I am on Wednesday. Oh, my God. I know. I'm about to go on a plane. I'm so glad that we're able to. That's why I can't be in Vegas. I'm actually going to New York on Wednesday. Oh. Will you be there? Are you going to stay until Sunday? The Women's Sports Foundation. No. Oh, fun. I'm from the Women's Sports Foundation. Fun. Fun. Okay. Well, I'm glad we were able to get together in between our flights to chat. Me too. Because this was so fun. And...

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