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And just like that, we're back with yet another carefully, carefully, carefully reckless episode with your girl, Jocelyn. We got my girl Taylor here. Say hey to Taylor. Taylor, say hey, y'all. Hey. All right, y'all. So we're going to jump straight in. And I did. I did read this story. It may be some grammatical errors, but I did read it. This is something that I can relate to. I like when y'all write me about things that I can kind of like.

to based off of my personal experiences or my previous or prior experiences, y'all. I like when y'all do that because that's where the real advice comes from. If you've lived it or if you're able to relate to a situation that somebody else may be going through, it's easier for you to just give advice. Okay. Especially if you made out better in your relationship, you know, based off of your experience. So here we are.

Hey, Jess, I'm writing this to you because I feel like you can help me with my mess. I know your son's father has a lot of baby moms, so I know you can help me and can understand how I feel. You were once in my shoes. First of all, don't tell me that. I don't know. You know, I don't know about your shoes yet because I was the first baby mama, you know, to the other five that he got. So I know it is crazy. Yeah.

Wait a minute, what's crazy? That he is five, like... Oh, girl, yes. Roman has kids on tops, on kids, on kids, on kids. But, like... Another conversation. Another conversation. All right, you want me to resume? Yeah. Because you added some questions for me. Because I just want to know... Well, it's not really you. It's just where his head was at. Like, did he always want to have a lot of kids? He always wanted a lot of kids. Okay.

But I don't think Rome planned to have that many baby moms just when he realized that I wasn't going to allow him to sit back and cheat on me and all that type shit. I wasn't popping out another baby. I wasn't. And then we were young, you know, and you know what you want, but you don't. You know what I'm saying? And the same things you want, what you want in your early 20s will not be the same things that you want in your 30s all the time. You know what I mean? He always he always knew he wanted to get married and have a big family.

But he always still ended up cheating. Like he couldn't find... Rome is still to this day searching for something that I don't think that he will find in women. Because when his mother died when he was 10, yeah, that kind of like shaped the way he looked at women. Because he was even upset with his mom for a while for like dying. And she couldn't even control that. You know what I'm saying? She had a health issue. So it was like...

Yo, you know, so I just think that from all that trauma, he has never gotten the help that he needs. And it definitely played a big role in how he looks at women, you know, and how he processes love from women because he's still looking for a mom in these women. He wants to be nurtured and things like that, you know, and I'm like, yo, that's two different types of love, you know? So that's that. Don't ever make me open up about Rome. Yeah.

I know, that's right. That was like a little therapeutic for me, too. I'm about to fucking cry. All right, y'all. We're going to jump back into our story. Thank you, Taylor. So my boyfriend, who is now my baby daddy, is apparently cheating on me with one of his previous baby moms and have been since our first date. Oh, wow. He told me he was past her. And although they have a young baby... Ah, red flag. When you say... I don't know how young the baby is, but if they got a young baby...

You know what I'm saying? Like you, that's a red flag right there. Come on now. He assured me that he was never going back and that she only kept that child because it was against her religion to have an abortion. Hmm. I ain't hear that one before. That's a good one. I went through his phone and saw messages that he was sending to her.

telling her that he regrets having a baby with me and wished that he would have kept it honest the whole time with me and told me that he wasn't over her. Oh, wow. She saw this in the phone. She does not give a fuck about him being in a relationship with me. And I think that's fucked up because she already went through him cheating and other bullshit when she was with him. So why keep trying to get back with him or entertain him if you know he's in a relationship now? Girl, what?

Either way, I look like a fucking fool. I was just about to say that. I'm glad you said it. You beat me to it. Either way, I look like the fucking fool because we have a three-month-old and he doesn't know that I went through his phone yet. Oh, wow. But we're supposed to go out of the country for my birthday and I'm thinking about having that conversation with him on the island. Oh, no, bitch. Unless you plan on killing him and drowning him in the ocean. Fuck no. Why would you wait till y'all get all the way out there? Right. Like, that's crazy. On vacation? On vacation. Yeah.

There is nowhere for him to escape to or nowhere for him to run from there. You trying to kill him? Yeah, bitch. I was just joking about drowning him in the ocean. I don't know how the trip will end, but this shit sounds scary. I don't know how the trip will end. It's crazy.

But I need to get this off my chest. What do you think I should do, Jess? I do love him. And I know he loves me. But this just fucked my head up. First of all, ma'am, Taylor, before I jump on her ass, is there anything you want to say to her? Because I'm going to jump all the way in there. All the way. Why would you go on vacation with him? Mm-hmm.

After seeing the messages? Or was this already planned? Maybe the vacation? Either way, that shit was being canceled. Yeah. But I can understand her feeling a type of way. Like, that's hurtful words, whatever. But then just leave, girl. Like...

It's easier said than done because I've been pissed the fuck off, too. Yeah, the fuck is definitely easier said than done. But but this is what I will say. Let's even fast forward. I mean, that's even rewind like fuck going on, going to on the island and shit to have the conversation with him. When you met him, he had a little baby already.

You know what I'm saying? That's a red flag. Yeah, it is. I figured that part out. And this nigga told you the only reason why she kept the baby is because it was against her religion to get an abortion? What the fuck are we talking about here? Yeah. I get that, but your child is here now. So even if that is the case, why even tell her that? She only kept the child. Like, I didn't want to have a baby with her. She only kept the child because it was against her religion.

Still, your baby's here. I just hate an excuse. The baby is here, is done, is dead. Whatever. No, no, no. It's not done and dead because the baby's here. But I'm saying, like...

That that the sex is done. The baby's born. There's nothing that you can do about it. Now, you can't turn back the hands of time. Like you can't put the baby back to her. He said that to his girlfriend. Only reason why my last baby mother even had this child is because it was against her religion to get an abortion. Yeah. Regardless, though, just regardless, you have a child. You are a father to a little baby. Yeah. So that was red flag number one.

That's why I said, that's a new one. But even still, he has a new baby too, though. Right, right. And then you get pregnant by him. Your baby is three months. She ain't tell me how old their baby was, but how old the baby from his previous relationship was. But what? The reason why she had the baby is because. Yes, it's because. That's stupid. But now you're sitting here with a three-month-old, you know what I mean? And you went through this guy's phone and you realize that

That's why you can't believe what they tell you. Only reason why I hate that shit. If somebody tell you that the only reason why she had, and then you later on find Texas in his phone to that same baby mother who you gave the reason for the baby for. Right. And you see that she telling that he telling the baby mother, like, yo, I wish I would've kept it honest with my girl now. Cause now she got a baby. I didn't even want to have another baby. I should've just kept it honest with her. So her, I wasn't over you. Yeah. Yeah.

That's crazy. How the fuck can you keep something like that to yourself until y'all get on the plane? I mean, until y'all get into another island. I can't. But also you can tell that there's already been trust issues because you went through his phone. You went through his phone. And then also, what I'm also looking at is the fact that she said there is no way for him to escape to or to run from there. That's so crazy. So y'all been through this shit before and every time you confront him about something, he runs away from it or he deflects or he...

flips it around on you. Like, hi, you know what I mean? Cause I can tell a lot in this story. Like you said, she won. You already going through the phone. So yeah, yeah. You've been felt this shit. Like you've been felt this way. Hold up, hold up. I know this shit getting good, but listen to just a couple seconds of a commercial. If you love me, you'll listen. The first two months of 2025 have been quite a year. Yeah.

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And then also, she probably has postpartum depression. You know what I mean? Three months. And you find this and it's like, fuck. Have you had a baby? Depending on how old you are, depending on, you know, because every woman is different. You don't feel like yourself. You don't feel pretty. You feel like you're trying to bounce back. You got to go back to work. It's a lot. Then you look in your man's phone that you just had a baby by and you see, damn, he...

He denied me and shit. He wished that he never even would have got with me because he's still over her. But he did tell this girl he's over... He was over the baby mama. That's crazy. I think she's going to try to kill him. I think she will try to kill him. I think so. Because...

And then another thing that's screaming crazy about her is you're able to hold this shit in until your birthday trip. Yeah, that's crazy. I don't know how to do that. Until y'all get on the island. Yeah, so you got to fly with this thing. You got to get up and get on the plane. You got to pack and act happy like y'all about to go ahead of time of y'all fucking lives. I don't know how to do that. And then she said, I don't know how this trip will end. No. Excuse me? Fuck. You ever seen the movie Blink Twice? No.

Is that what that... With Channing Tatum? Yes. When he has his own island and shit and they go over there and they don't even know what the fuck the woman don't even know what's going on with them. Yeah, she was there before. Yes, and she was there before. Bruh. That shit sound like some shit like that. Listeners, y'all need to go see Blink Twice.

I'm actually doing a movie review on it, but y'all need to go see that shit. Yeah, it was good. It was good. But it was also crazy. Yeah, it was. It was very nuts. Like, girl. And you know what? When they do movies like that, we're going to get back to her mess. But when they do movies like that, that shit just makes me think like,

about the Epstein shit and like the Epstein like the list like what if people really do have these secret islands where they go to and they like drug women and rape them it's like a form of trafficking I didn't see it what's that guy's name Epstein Jeffrey Epstein oh you might be talking about another one cause I'm telling you it's probably a dark world where it's a bunch of the motherfuckers I thought it was another one

Harry Weinstein? No. Maybe it is Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, it is. Because remember, it was supposed to have been a list that came out of all the celebrities and big people that's in on it and shit. I think there's a lot. Yes, that's a whole nother world. And look, they don't make these movies for no reason either. Yeah. That's the movie. So if y'all ain't never seen it, I'm just going spoiler alert, spoiler alert right now. Y'all need to watch it.

But it's basically it's a movie. And Zoe Kravitz did this movie. Lenny Kravitz and Lisa Benet's daughter did this movie. And it's basically like a remote island. Right. That this.

billionaire owns and they do trips there him and these other elite members of this group or whatever like a members only thing and they take five women over there and it's five of them they take five women over there and they drug them and they don't the ladies don't even know they're being drugged they you know it's like they get high they kill one of them because she wasn't forgetting nothing yeah so in the movie the shit that they they had the perfume that that

All right, so look. They get there and the villa's already set up. They got clothes already waiting for them and everything. And it just looks like a great getaway, like a fucking luxury fucking vacation. But they're drugging you every night. On top of already taking drugs because they give them shrooms and LSD and all this type of shit. The shit that make you all like open and flirty and shit and happy and shit, right? But then they also give you something to make you forget.

And you wake up the next morning like, oh, my God, we had a blast last night. But you don't remember shit. And what they're doing to give you the drugs that make you forget is raping you and like fucking you up crazy. So you wake up tired and drained the next day. But you don't remember what the fuck happened past you being happy, jolly and high. I did not see that coming. I did not. But he had to be in love with that black woman. Even with. Yeah. Because he was saying like.

I can't believe you didn't remember last time or something like that. Crazy! She was there before. Yup, she was there before. Remember, she had a fucking head, too. It was a lot. So y'all just need to go and watch it. And I know it seems like I just told y'all the whole movie, but no, seriously. It is literally so much more. It's so much more that y'all need to see. Y'all need to watch the whole fucking shit. Either way. Love you guys. Love you girls. Oh, no, wait. I was about to say bye.

Girl, because this girl dumb as shit, I hate giving the fucking advice to people who I feel like should already know what to do, baby girl. What, you think she should just leave? I think she should leave that nigga. Yeah. I found out that your ass didn't even want this baby with me. You wasn't even over this bitch and I asked you, was you over her? Yeah.

And I believe that bullshit ass excuse that she kept the baby because it was against her religion to get an abortion. I can't believe I fucking believe that. I'm here with this baby, this three month old, and I had to go through your phone to find out that you regret me and this baby. Like, come the fuck on. But you. But the thing is, think about it, though. Mm hmm.

You said it before, like, when you and Rome were together, like, at the end of the day, you guys went into family. So she's probably trying to make that nigga have a family. But that's what I learned. You cannot make a nigga want his family. You cannot make a nigga stay with you because y'all had a baby. Like, a man is not going to stay because you have a baby. Honestly, sometimes...

The man runs away. Yeah. Even quicker when they feel like they are going to be binded to a woman forever that they don't even see a future with. But now you've got my child. So you think you're about to hold me shackled to you? Right. Like, no, that's that's not that's not a tool. You never use a pregnancy or a child as a tool of of attachment, like to to keep connection with a person. That is horrible.

You don't do that. And because the only one that really loses ultimately is not you, not the guy, but the fucking kids. The baby is the one who pays for that. You know what I mean? Like,

Cause you know, I feel like all kids should be able to see that both of their parents, um, under one household, under one roof, you know, that's why you gotta be very careful who you let, like who you create with. Yo, you have to get to know these people. She don't tell me how long she'd been knowing this nigga or not. Like she, it just, she just said he already had a fucking baby. And don't ever tell me I can relate to this. One, one of Rome, other baby mothers can relate to this shit. I can't relate to this shit.

Mm-mm. Because the dumbest shit that I did for Rome was the last dumb shit that I did for Rome. And I tell y'all this story all the time, and I'm going to repeat it again for the people in the motherfucking back.

I thought I wanted my family and he, I, I believe that fucking lie that he sold me. And I was dealing with this dude. I wasn't even with Rome. I was telling was mad young, like real young. And I was dealing with this guy who had came and swept me off my feet. He was everything that Rome wasn't. He was actually doing right by Ashton. He was, he treated ashes. He as his own child, he didn't have no kids. He didn't have no, no, no,

wife laying around and I went back to Rome I let Rome get in my air about I want my family and I just I want I want to try it again and yo I'm ready to be the man that you need me to be a whole time we talk he talk like this and we fucking 20 years old yeah right motherfucker 21 and shit and I went to the guy because I didn't want to cheat on the guy with Rome I went to the guy and I'm like look

I want to try. I think I'm going to give Ron one more try to be a family. That nigga looked at me like, what? Bitch, you just sat up here and told me all the shit that he don't do. How long were you with that guy? I was probably with, I was about to say his name, Chau. I was with him for maybe about, what, six months? Girl, yeah. That was a minute, wasn't it? Dumb as fuck. Dumb as fuck. Damn.

I was with this nigga for... No, it was longer than that. I'm sorry. Yeah, I was with him for close to a year. And I don't know, yo. I have no idea why I even did that goofy shit, yo. But I did. And that nigga couldn't wait to fucking cheat on me. Couldn't wait to cheat, sweetheart. Why though? What was...

I want Rome to come on here and talk about his reasons. You know what? We're going to do a questionnaire for Rome. Develop the questions now. He's going to look at you when you get in here pregnant. That's going to trigger him because he has a baby every year. If you love me, you'll listen to this commercial and then we'll be right back.

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But you know, one thing about Rome though, Rome, he is a great dad and he's always taking care of his kids. Um, the best that he knew how and the best that he could afford. Like, you know what I mean? So that's one thing about my baby daddy or my little baby father. Y'all. I just want to always, you know, commend him on that aspect. Cause it's,

It's whether we want to look at it for what it is or not. People really think black dads are like shit. You know what I'm saying? Like all black. Listen, my father was a great fucking dad to me. You know what I mean? And yeah. So, you know, so is yours, you know, and and and although all dads don't get it right, all black dads don't get it right.

You got some fucking white dads that don't get it right either. You know, you got dead beats in every fucking race. You do, though. I mean, I don't know why. I just hate it. It's like a stigma. Not saying that it should be... No, it should be like no more because everyone just thinks of black baby dads for whatever reason. Yeah. And honestly, that has a lot to do with the baby moms too. Because of how...

They're talked about. There's white baby moms. They get a little crazy. I get it. But no, for sure. Cause I, you know, I, I know some, but white baby moms, I know all of them, but they're not talking shit about their baby daddies publicly either. You get what I'm saying?

Like, Chloe even... Listen, Chloe even still is imaginarily married to hers. Imaginarily? Imaginarily married to hers. And this nigga out here doing whatever, but she said, for the sake of my child, I want my child to know the traditional...

parents two parents living in one household I don't want her to know that we're not together the children should not know what's going on so I'm gonna keep letting my daughter think I'm married to her dad which is gonna fuck her up by the way when she gets older to be an adult and ask you ma I could have dealt without that lie I could have went without that lie like I'm fine

Yeah. Like, why? Why didn't you just keep that shit honest with me? Because that's what I always talk to my mother about. If you weren't happy in your marriage, why would you stay? Oh, because I just want to keep my family together. I wanted your kids to know what traditional households were like.

I never knew my parents had issues or whatever until I became a grown woman who already had a child. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I'm just like, Ma, you've been unhappy all this time and you're willing to be miserable and deal with all of that shit. Yeah. And have to be strong. Probably got mental illness to say the first, right? Yeah.

just for us to know what having both of our parents in the same house was like. Yeah, everything about that now with my... Well, my parents are fine, but I just wonder what... Yeah. I know they kept a lot of stuff from me, at least. I don't know what my sister's seen being the oldest, but like... Yeah, your parents are still together though, right? Yeah, so... But even still though, like, we're all out the house...

But I just wonder, like, I know my mom is traditional as well as my... Yeah, my mom is traditional, too. And I just wonder her mental... Yeah, her mental state. Like, where is she at with it now? Or has she ever had to endure...

shit coming up and y'all just she just kept that smile on her face like like uh what's her name uh melanie fiona mona lisa smiles she literally was just talking about that in her interview where she's just like man you like you ever look at that picture of mona lisa and you see that she's smiling i didn't even know she was smiling because one white people don't have no lips so i had no idea that she was smiling until i zoomed all the way in after talking to melanie and i'm like damn now she is smiling but she looks so sad in her eyes

You know what I mean? Like, it's like, fuck, you know? But that's how all them smiled back then. Back then? Who's them?

The whites. Oh. Well, that's because of their lips. Not even the whites. Honestly, humans in general. You used to smile like that? Think about it. We never seen a smiling picture of like Harriet Tubman or... What the fuck was it to smile for, Taylor? You're right. You're right. You're right. Okay. That was bad. That was bad. You know what? We're just going to end it. Wait, hold on. Okay. Let me see if someone better. What the fuck are you smiling for? I'm seeing someone better. I got to kill niggas and take them to a railroad every night? What about Rosa Parks? I haven't seen a smiling picture. Rosa Parks?

Are you serious? There was nothing to fucking smile about. She used to get into it with her fucking husband. That's how she ended up on the bus that day. Because her husband had a fucking car the whole time. Joe Button already told us that. Okay, so look. It was sad times back then. I'm just saying that. For everybody? Yes. For everybody.

You ain't never seen a picture of her. You're something and smiling like, bitch, excuse me? You're right. You're right. That's bad. That's bad. But women in general, we didn't have rights then. I know. We couldn't do shit. We couldn't vote. We couldn't speak up. We couldn't, you know, say when we... So we were all sad back then. Girl, oh my God. Imagine the Prairie of Crams, honey. What the fuck would you... Like, you know what I'm saying? I can only imagine being on my motherfucking Prairie and I'm a slave and I'm outside the heat. What? What?

I wonder what they were saying. Master, like, my cramps is, like... When I went to Africa, I went to the... Africa had the proper name for it, but basically, like, where they kept the slaves and everything. Oh, wow, yeah. And what they were just saying, like, how they used to stand in, like, their shit. Oh, yeah, right, exactly. It was horrible. And so who would smile, Taylor? You're right. Yeah. Only the motherfucking white people. The white people

also were sad too because their husband were cheating on them with the slaves yup that was the one yeah yeah there was nothing to smile about yeah everybody was oppressed you kind of think huh except the men except the white men but they wasn't happy because their wives ain't had no ass so that's why the fuck they had to go cheat

with Big Bertha out in the yard because she had ass sitting up on her back. How do we get here? We are done. We've come to yet another Carefully Breakfast episode with your girl, Jess Clare. And my girl, Taylor, y'all. Y'all go ahead and say bye to Taylor. Taylor, say bye to them. Them people probably be mad at you. Bitch, ain't nobody fucking happy back in the day.

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