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And just like that, we back on the air. Welcome back to another Catholic Reckless episode with your girl, Jess Hilarious. And I got little baby father with me today. This is his first time doing. This is your first time doing an actual podcast, ain't it? Yeah. Yeah. You've never been on here. The audio, yes. Your son made it to Catholic Reckless before you. I'll be busy.
I know. Yo, his little ass be trying to really, really boss up on me. He be trying to crack on me and everything. He think he a little comedian when he get on here. The topic that I wanted to discuss, a lot of people always ask, they always ask me about how you and I got to this point, you know, where we can co-parent healthy and like in a healthy way and how we have made this happen.
this this great environment for ourselves in and our child like we're like we're definitely like a happy family but like we it's like me and you are siblings and people don't even they don't get it they love it but they don't get it so i want to talk about that like because it took a long time for us to get here but yeah we did we did get here and
I don't think it took a long time. Yeah. I just think it took some time. It took a lot of work. It took a lot.
I wouldn't even say it took a lot of work. You wouldn't think so? It was pride. I think it was a lot of pride in a way. We was young. We was coming from two different backgrounds. And for the longest, I really couldn't understand you, like why you did the things you did when you came from a two-part household. Right. And as I grew and learned to get out my feelings when dealing with you, I took a step back and I said, well, damn, let me try to understand it, which I didn't get too personally into that. But as far as me and Ashton, it was like,
It was easy for us to just separate and go our ways because we had, you
your number one lady in the middle. Who? Your mom. My mom. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was so much easier. You'd be like, all right, well, fuck you, bitch, or whatever the case may be. I never was really that disrespectful then, so I wouldn't really say that, but I'd be like, damn. No, you never really did. You didn't talk to me like I talked to you back in the day. Correct. And, you know, like I said, even then, I'm like, damn, why is she talking to me like that? I was a little, not even timid, but just still really emotional. Yeah, definitely. But I think mom...
Your mom, Mama Robin, you know, shout out to her. I always give her her flowers. I always give her flowers. But I believe that her...
Being your mom and a daycare provider really helped us a lot as well. So, of course, I didn't have to see you. I would pick them up on a Friday, drop them off Monday to daycare, go to school, and you would get them Monday through Thursday. Which, in a normal world, for moms that have custody of their children, that is normal for the dad to do.
Yeah. It is not a problem. Right. You're not a deadbeat dad because you get your child from Friday through Monday. I mean, primarily a kid, you know, a kid lives with their mom. So, you know, primarily in some cases, you know, because nowadays, you know, there are a lot of
single dads too. And, you know, and they get, like they had their children from sunup to sundown. You know, they have to be basically the mother and the dad, you know, and I give those dads their flowers as well. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not going to always only give the moms, the single mom life, you know, some light. No, definitely. But that's why I always take the credit for granted with me and you. And wait, what was you saying? Because you said...
You couldn't understand why I would do the things I did. What the hell was I doing that was so bad? It wasn't necessarily you was doing bad things. It was the way you act. Like, just like nobody really seen that side of you. Like, the party side, the wild side. Like, for a long time, we going to put it on here for a long time. Mm-hmm.
It was, oh, that's wrong, baby mama. I know. I've said that. I wasn't known before I was known as Jess Alerts. Before Jess Alerts was even thought of, I was just wrong, baby mama. Nobody, yeah, I was known because of you. We're going to take it back before Ashton. We're going to play it like that. We're going to take it back before Ashton. Before that, you know, that was wrong, baby mama. Everybody was trying to figure out who Jess was. You know, Facebook was popular then. She had the bald blonde head. We played the Kanye and Amarose thing. So, you know, like, then I started going to parties.
where I'm a couple friend of mine from school and a couple parties I'm on to put you on a fly. Right. You know, now people see you, now you're going out more because for a long time, like I said, you were in school with white people so like you really never really, I never really seen a party side of you until after that.
Like after that part So it was like Why the fuck do this girl always got a party Like why she not family oriented Like her mom and dad still together You know they got two houses Like yo that's the life I was like that So when you grow up like that
You know what I'm saying? Like, my mom didn't let me go out. My mom didn't, like, it was, I was just doing everything that I wasn't allowed to do when I was younger. My mom didn't like me hanging with fast-tail girls, like, fast-ass girls, and she didn't... She felt like she sheltered you. Yeah, you know, I was definitely sheltered, you know, and it wasn't...
I thank her for that now, but that's why I always started sneaking out. I started stealing her car, coming to Baltimore. I got sent to an all-white high school in Pennsylvania. I got into drugs and shit. I got into all that. That's when I started drinking up there with them goddamn white kids. I'm like, oh, shit. All right. You working all the way in Baltimore, mom? Shit. I'm about to start fucking up out here. Yeah.
When I got back to Baltimore, that's when I met you after my high school years. And I'm like, oh, OK. All right. So now I can party in Baltimore like now, you know. So that's what it was. I was just trying to, I guess, you know, get my years back that I spent being, you know, not able to do that shit. OK. And then, yeah, I think that that was that time. And then it was a situation you got into this when I really like knew that.
I was in love with you because when you came to me, I really wasn't, you know,
what's the word i can use not emotional i really wasn't sympathetic sympathetic i really wasn't like oh well she coming to me like oh whatever i didn't believe i really didn't believe you about what but about you know with the john conserblanca's modeling oh the modeling thing yeah so you know like when you know we sat in that courtroom and you know you pray at this point at this time you're pregnant so like you know you're showing a little bit so when you be sat in the courtroom and um
All I heard was Tom. I ain't here. There's a suspension, a weekend shit, none of that shit. So after the sentence was over, I was like, all right, well, she got to go on weekends. So this one, it got a little good for me because I'm like, oh, shit, she going to jail on the weekends. I could have had a car. I was going to jail and all you was worried about was...
The bitches you was going to see while I was in jail on the weekends because you was going to have my car. No, it wasn't necessarily the bitches because I was always scared to drive outside of the neighborhood. I didn't really get that until, you know, man, you started driving back and forth to PA, you'll let me drive. Mind you, I still only had a college ID. I didn't even have a birth certificate at the time.
You didn't have what? A birth certificate. Yeah, yeah, you didn't have your birth certificate. I didn't get that shit until late. But I used to work at the car wash. I used to park the car on the curb, clean it real good, put the gel on the tires, et cetera, et cetera. But I think that me and you gained such a great bond because you was there when I got all of those things. My birth certificate.
My permit, my license. You found out the real spelling of your name. The real spelling of my name. Crazy. I had to go do so much things. To get it changed. This is me by myself doing this. Right. Right.
Like I said, man, I love my dad to death, but my dad didn't really do what he was supposed to do. And my mom, my stepmom, my stepmom was really just a provider. My stepmom really wasn't a lover. She didn't know how to kiss you and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. It was never, I love you. It was never, come here, let me hold you. It wasn't, but she cooked a lot. She did what she was supposed to do. And you know me, I wanted that because I had lost my mom. So now I'm an adult in the dating world. I really don't know how to date a woman.
Right. Okay. But you know, it takes a lot of balls to even say that. That's really good that you know that. Yeah. My dad made it cool. Like, yo, all right. Even my, mind you, you know, like I said, he ain't ashamed of his game. We had this conversation a lot now. My dad made it cool that it was cool to just fuck different women. Mm-hmm.
It wasn't cool to, I know I didn't want to disrespect a woman. Right. Like, verbally or something like that. But my dad made it seem like it was just cool to date multiple women. It was like, you know, at 18, 19, my dad like, oh boy, shorty mother, I need you to have a niece or a sister. I'm like, oh, I got you. Right. Especially when I got a little older. Right. But, you know, let's go back to, you know, me and you, like, we're going to fast forward a little bit to now, Ashton, like, one or two. For a long time, I'm going to say like seven months, we ain't communicating.
You and I? Yeah, we didn't communicate at all. It was very rare. It was always arguing. Like, you know, and that was around the time where, you know, you bust my window out the car. Okay. Jazz and Sullivan shit. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that was around that time. But I think that was the only problem. After that, you know,
I ain't talk to you again. Your mom let me know that you was home. We went on, man. I created my schedule. Then I think comedian stuff started probably like a year or two after that. I want to say it started around when Ashton was like three. Yeah, it started two years after that. Yeah, so Ashton three now. It's 2014, 15. I catch a late check.
But by then, you know, I had just bought a car for my 22nd birthday with working money. You know, I cashed the check. I'm still going to school. So everything is opening up for me. But, you know, you on the other hand, you still trying to make it. And one thing I can say, we never could be up at the same time. And struggling like a motherfucker. We never could be up at the same time. So I cashed the check, you know.
Me, you know me, I'm just so happy. I'm young. To even have all this fucking money. I can finally do what I want to do now. Right. Shit. I could date the chicks that I wanted to date now. Hold on. When I say that, I'd be like, you know how you niggas. So I wasn't enough. No, but then you gone.
You wanted to date up and shit No, by then I'm 22 Oh, you just wanted to date me When you was broke and shit No, that's not it Yo, you gone already You done already Right, right, right Mentally, you already gone from me Right Like, you probably had like Three, four boyfriends Matter of fact, remember The first birthday You had a boyfriend Mm-hmm That's your first birthday When you first learned how to walk Yeah You had a little pushing turtle Mm-hmm You know, yeah So, by then, like Even then, we was We wasn't
And that nigga name was Jerome. Yeah, we weren't buddy-buddy then, but we was cool. Yeah, we were. We were okay. It went to the second year where I'm like, all right, you know what? I ain't worrying about what she's doing no more. I'm not about to let her keep getting me upset and whatever the case may be. Then, ashton turned three, all that shit happened. Now, I'm doing good for myself. By then, you're doing what you're doing. You got a boyfriend, though. So, even when the money and shit really started, when it started really, really coming, I
when it really came you know the most thing you act this is why i always loved you and i never shared this story but i'm gonna share it today when the money came you never asked me for right you said wrong i don't want to be in mommy house no more now mind you we haven't come we communicating a little bit more way before it came we didn't even know it was coming for sure but i wanted to i wanted to tell you that you know i was catching the calves and to the appointments so then the only thing you said was wrong
I just want you to help me move. I said, well, all right, go find an apartment and I'll pay for it.
you never found an apartment, you went and got the house. Remember you got the house and there was you and what's that guy's name? - AJ. - You and AJ. And I'm like, I know this bitch ain't just telling me she wanted to move and go move with a motherfucking nigga. But by then, me and AJ was click tight. Honestly, I did like AJ. That was my favorite man out of everybody you had. That was my favorite boyfriend you had, man. We done had some of the best talks like always, man. We had a one-on-one talk.
You ain't even know about. And that's where we sat around differences. And it wasn't necessarily he did something to me. It was more so me being, you know, the cocky person that I was. I'm like, I don't want you around my motherfucking son, nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, so man, AJ had a great talk, man. Shout out to you, boy. Man, that was one of my dogs. I don't know what happened to him, whatever the case may be. He got locked up and shit. Oh, okay, he got locked up. Okay. But see, even after that, then when y'all get done, you know, you got Chris that come in. Mm-hmm.
Yo, I don't know what was up with yo, but yo ain't like me for some reason. So like by then I'm still, you know, I still got money. I'm still working my ass off. I'm still doing damn near 48 hours. But Chris didn't like you because we were really close. Me and you were close at this time. I didn't know that. So I'm trying to figure it out. So like it's times where I be shopping. Right. And I be like, I know my big mama like this. And,
I'm like, no, I ain't going to get that because I don't want to cause friction in her household. I was going to say, why the fuck you never buy me anything? Because you never ever bought me nothing. But it wasn't necessarily, you know, you wasn't that type of woman. You didn't come from that household. You would never even know because you never tried to buy me nothing. No, no. You never tried to buy me nothing. And I never tried because you had a boyfriend. I didn't want to overstep my boundaries. I didn't want to cause problems. Honestly, I didn't because I used to ask Ashley. Like, yo, she's like, no, because that's going to cause...
you know friction on my eye whatever so it was a little bit of times one time I told you no but it was times before that you would ask me like pay a little bill or something and I'd do that like that was all you asked me for and literally and if I was asking you that shit I literally did need to go like you know I never asked nobody for shit exactly and I said and it like even to the point where you know I said man I got family to use me and all that shit like use me and I said yo like my baby mother never tried to use me never never
Like, never tried to use me. And I really feel like even then, you was the only genuine baby child mom I had. You was the only probably true friend that I had where it was like, all right, yo, this female never asked me for it. And honestly, she was really entitled to it. I'm going to say entitled because you was my child mom. So it was like, yo, you could have always called, oh, Ashley need this, Ashley need that, Ashley need this. But you never did that. I just never did, yeah. You never did that. And so I, boom, fast forward by now.
Shit got fucked up running out running low you on your peak, you know, you yeah, you know you ride when your money ran out You say okay money running out, you know, I got fired and I really happen. I got fired right? So now, you know, I stopped spending People like oh he went broke. I ain't go broke there. I
I humbled myself a little bit. I did. I said, Joe, like the savings, I ain't, you know, the only thing I knew was hotness. I ain't know how I scammed and I ain't know how to do none of that. He was on security. I was on security. That's all I knew. Not security. Now I'm in nursing support. Oh, at John Hopkins. Yeah, so they fired me and
I'm like, damn, they will fire me right now. So I'm like, damn, I can't spend no more because I don't know when the next time I'm going to get a job. I went a whole six months without a job. It wasn't until my aunt Sherita was like, go to such and such. You know the manager. You know the HR. I'm like, for real? I got my shit. I went up there. My, just six months later. So, you know, I'm on my last.
and you know I ain't gonna say who I went back to at the moment but you know I wound up going back to my second child mom and well I did say it no I was gonna say not I ain't gonna say it but I said it but I did say it yeah wound up going back to her yeah wound up going back to her when things you know but I didn't want to be with her when things right it was just convenient it was just convenient at the moment I can't say that um
But by then, you're reaching your peak. And even during that stage, now you're traveling. Now you're traveling. Don't really answer my calls. You know, with Chris, Chris with you. And that created a jealous spot with me because I'm like, damn, she really don't answer my calls. She really ain't fucking with me. I say, Wayne, we wasn't even in a bad spot for it to be like this. So...
I'm not confused, but I'm like, all right, fuck it. I know you don't like me. You're in the local trust girl now. Okay, cool. Yeah. That went on like a year and some change. It wasn't until you really up and just left your alone with me. You got a relationship. I got everybody back. Like again, like honestly, I don't know what the fuck it was. It was just like, he just had me isolated.
It's fucked from like, I wasn't even close with London when I was with him. Like, I wasn't talking to Sheena as much when I was with him. Like, it was just like, I don't know why. Like, it was like he had turned me against other people. And then this, you know, my closest people. And the thing is, you're not ever supposed to give somebody some power over that. I mean, give somebody some power like that over you. Like, you never supposed to. I don't know what it was, what the hell it was. But Chris had a motherfucking hold on me.
on me, you know what I mean? Like the only person that I was even close to like around with other than him was my son. Like that was it, me and my mom. Like we talked, I would never go around my family though. Like it was crazy. So I felt lonely as fuck too while I was with him. I'm like, damn, and I felt lonely because I had cut everybody off.
you know, indirectly and that shit like really fucked me up. So I'm like, yo, I need to get away from this nigga for different reasons. Not only is he stealing, stealing from me, not only is he cheating on me, not only is, you know, is he not even good for my son, you know, he's also fucking just not good for me, period. He's not a good person, you know? And so I, I realized that and it's like, you're never supposed to stay with somebody so long to where you start hating them. You got to break that shit off because, um,
You know, it's not good to hate someone. And then the thing is, I think we're both doing great. Fucking great. I don't know exactly how he's gonna be as a beautiful baby. I hear, you know, I, I think he's been blocked so long. I can't even go to his page. So and I doubt that he comes to mind. I mean, I don't know, you know what I'm saying? Like he has a beautiful child.
And I seen the baby, you know, other people, screenshots, people be like, oh shit, he had a baby and they sent it to me. Baby looked just like him. I know he's in a relationship. He is top tier Uber driver. Like he's like, yeah, like he's doing exceptionally well. Like, okay. And I still wish him all the best, but yeah,
they say even doing it is beard is great like everything is great so I'm like maybe that was the best thing for both of us and then like you gotta understand there's no disrespect to anybody but you blew up overnight it wasn't that long and then so to take a young man
From not saying nothing but to take a young man on a fame thing part like from nobody know me to day I'm all over the world. You know, I'm doing this I'm doing that and I was like, you know, it's crazy because for a long time like and I can only imagine how you felt in my predicament, but I used to sit back like damn, you know,
I knew we probably wouldn't have a relationship, but that's supposed to have been me with her. Why? Because I felt as though I needed to be by you to protect you from certain shit. So you have said that you have felt that way because you've never ever told me that. I've always, I felt like that and I always, I was dealing with it.
Like I was dealing with it where as though it used to drain me. Like during that stage I was going through other shit. Now that's when I started drinking a lot because like now people know who you are, but people know that you was my, now if you really didn't know, you didn't know. But people knew that you was my child mom. Like she always, little fake pages. I used to, even in public, like damn, she made it and she left you or she made it and she don't do shit for you. How I feel. It used to be so much, yo. And I used to, I never came to you all because first and foremost, I know how that is. Mm-hmm.
Like when you're in a certain predicament, you have a certain type of money, like you have a certain type of stature, like it's hard and it's stressful. Yeah. Because you got so much on you, you got so many people. And with more money comes more bills and more problems and more expenses. Everybody entitled. Yeah. So you know what? I said, you know what, yo? I think the bond we created right now to this day, today is January 12th. And I just sat back. I sat back and I said, you know what, yo? In due time.
I honestly believe that me and her will have the cordialness co-parenting. You always making up some damn words. Don't say cordialness. I like it though. Go ahead. Me and her will be cordial for our son soon. Right. It wasn't about nothing. It wasn't about dressing up the mess. It wasn't about none of that. Like,
It was people always like, oh, she funny, she funny. I said, well, that's just our natural personalities. I never even said you. I just said Al. Because when we're in the same setting, like it's nothing but always after the emotions and shit went away from the baby mama, baby father drama. It was always a vibe. It was always catchy. We always had fun. So I just said, yeah, together. And I'm just like, all right, okay. It'll come a time where me and her can be
you know, close. Yeah. I always wanted that though. Cause I was like, yo, like I used to see people quote like older guys close with their children, mom and stuff like that. I'm like, damn, I wish we can do that and don't have to be together. So I was never the ones who, Oh, I ain't with my baby. Oh man, fuck that bitch. No. Right. I wanted to coordinate as well because I seen from other situations that it was healthy for the child. Hold up, hold up. I know this shit getting good, but listen to just a couple seconds of a commercial. If you love me, you'll listen.
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I've never, honestly, I've never seen a bond like ours. Like I've never seen a co-parenting team like us. I don't know one couple, well, one ex-couple, two parents that are not together and gel well and can actually work together and not have to like force it like in front of their child, you know, but they really hate each other. I've never, I've seen that dysfunction. I've never seen like how we are. And a lot of people love that shit.
You know? Yeah. A lot of people, a lot of people love it. About us. A lot of people love it about us. And granted, we ain't perfect. Mm-hmm. You know, like, we beef. We still argue. We still have our little. We beef. We argue. We may not speak. We talk shit about each other. We do all of that. Mm-hmm. For the naysayers and for the haters who want to say, oh, they phony. They just say that. It ain't nothing never phony. Mm-hmm. It's just we, at the end of the day, her being Miss Elias and me being a regular person I am, we still are Ashton's parents. Mm-hmm. We still want to go through that. Mm-hmm.
You know, you're going to hear everything, man. It's going to be a lot of haters that say, oh, I don't like it. I swear you're going to hear it. After this come out, you're going to hear it. But fuck them. And it's going to be people around me. It's going to be close immediate people that say, fuck them. You know, for a long time, like I said, I appreciate that we can have this bond. I also more appreciate, you know, the position that, you know, you're allowing me to be put in even, you know,
Being beside you other than your child's dad, your business partner, even for your moral support and shit like that. It's so much stuff. Sometimes you get on my fucking nerves because I'll be like, why would she say this? Why would she say that?
But I'd be like, you know what? That's her. Right. Like even with Caffley Reckless live discussion. Yo, I'm going through, you know, the comments, of course, on YouTube. And we got so many fucking views. I'm so excited. Like, you know, and one actually drops tonight at 7 p.m. Yes. So make sure y'all tune in to that. That's episode two. And this one is even steamier than the first one. And my mic ain't fucking up. No, no, no. Your mic ain't gonna fuck up on this one. But I noticed like in the comments, people will say,
Oh, just still want him more. He know he's still in love with her or he, he want her back and she want him back. Clear that shit up.
I mean, it's self-explanatory, man. You don't have to want somebody back. Like, I had a conversation with my homeboy the other day. Because they never heard you say, they hear me say all the time, I don't want his ass, I don't want his ass, but they never hear you say it. I'm speaking to the audience. I'm speaking to everybody who said it, but I'm speaking to the audience. I'm speaking to everybody who said it, but I'm also speaking to my motherfucking bro, Mr. Karate. This is to clear it up to you.
just to clear it up to everybody. That's your homeboy? Yeah, that's my brother. When I was a groomsman in his wedding. Okay. I do not want my child mom. Okay. It's no attraction there. She's a beautiful woman. Yes, she is. Do I love her? Yes, I do. I love her as my child mom, my friend, you know,
things that my brother, my sister, however you want to put it, things of that nature. Like, like I was telling my, my bro, I said, bro, my child mom can walk in front of me naked and I don't give a fuck. Literally. Like, yo, go put some fucking clothes on. Like, what are you doing? Like, it's been times where I didn't walk in a garage, do the garage coming in the house and, you know, just to pick my son up. But like, people be like, oh, yo, you lying. Yo, bro, you lying. Yo, I don't have to fucking lie, bro. Like, I ain't never had a, a, a,
problem in getting a woman or you know getting asked I didn't doubt it ain't too many I haven't touched but it's like niggas think that you gotta be fucking your baby mother because she and I asked them hold on I'm gonna take that back I asked them I said is it because she's just a lawyer it's why I should try to get back with her nobody wants to give me a real answer though
But I know that's what it is. Because if you wasn't, they wouldn't be saying, oh, bro, go back to your first baby model. Yeah. Because y'all ain't saying go back to your second. Yeah. Y'all ain't saying go back to your third. Even though, man, your third was never existed. Yeah. But, so why does it go back to my first one? I'm already in my fourth one. Mm-hmm.
why why is it you know so i'll be trying to i'll be really wanting to know know the answer like yo like come on like is it because you got a couple dollars that ain't never moved me so you know no to the world man to the public to my peers to my brothers to my family i do not want my child mom it is nothing we're able to be in a room or setting an environment and vibe like to know us is to love us together if you ever around us you'd be like damn wow i'm pretty sure some of her boyfriend she didn't have a boyfriend now i'm pretty sure you'll still be
feeling weird like, damn, this shit really real. Yeah, honestly.
He has like no issue. And you know, man, I've got history. Literally. So I wouldn't think it would be. Yeah. And then he and his son's mom are like, they ain't like us. Ain't nobody like us. But they're definitely on a level where they can talk about their son and they, you know, and probably even laugh and joke together and shit. Like he's been around, you know, our boyfriends and shit. And, you know, and.
Well, he hasn't had a girlfriend since her, you know, except me. You know, yeah. Like my boyfriend was single for 11 years. You know, that was his last relationship. The one he was in with his his son's mom. But, you know, that even that like he just was like, I love the dynamic that you and Rome have. Like, I love that. Ain't nobody. He did not love you on our first date with Chris. But I was invited.
I didn't say, come on, let's go. You said, Ron, I'm going to invite you in. I honestly didn't tell him that. Oh, well, I didn't know that. I know. I showed up. I was never going to tell you. I showed up. But even if you would have, I still would have came. Okay. I was racing because you are that person. But he's going to know now because he listens to Cavalry Rockers. So I definitely just told him myself. Yeah, no, I did not know. I really thought it was a, you planned it for us.
So I ain't even asking, but we was talking and shit when y'all walking to the bathroom. I don't know if that was a part of the plan. It was a Father's Day thing. Yeah, so I'm like, oh, well, me, you know me, I don't really give a fuck. I honestly didn't think you was going to come. That's why I was like, I didn't think you were going to come because I thought you had things to do.
- I took my dad out for the first time. I never took my dad out. - And you had told me you was gonna spend. - Yeah, but my dad wanted to do, he wanted to fucking do. - Early on. - So I was like, "All right, fuck you then, nigga. Go do the fuck you wanna do then." - Right, right. - So I got plans already. - Yeah. - You know, so I ain't really eat too much 'cause I already knew what I wanted. But yeah, man, I think once the emotions and the feelings is gone. - Yeah.
And the pride and shit is a way I think that people can really find the good in that. When you're not together, co-parenting is great. Yeah, and then when you can actually put everything on the table and actually tell me why did you hurt me or okay, this is what I did. There's no secrets with us. That's the thing. Even to this day. No secrets. I'm sorry. Even to this day, I go through hell and hot water. And it be like,
Even with my second child mom, it's like I can't get on the same page with her because she worries about what I do too much. Yeah, yeah. Well, she's not over you still. But she says she is. You never call me and just make it about a little. They're always going to say that. It's always, oh, I'm about a bitch. You lay, you want to be, you pressed to be laid up with a bitch. You bop, bop, bop. But yet you laid up.
How you laid up, but you got a problem with what I'm doing? Yo, I have a two-year-old baby boy. She's still like, yo, like, come on, man. I got a five-year-old daughter as well. Two kids later, after her. Two kids later, it's still the same. And mind you, granted, even on the time of me and Bryce and mom, like, you know, yeah, I went back. You know, not really thinking Bryce and mom was going to take me back. I went back. I did. I fucked up. But like for a person to say that they don't want a person and they moved on, I should not be going through what the fuck I'm going through. Yeah. I shouldn't.
You laid up a check. You telling me, oh, I'm pressed to lay up with a bitch. You know, everything I do, you worried about. I switch my car is a problem. I move out of a house. Oh, it's a problem. And this is, we still talking about the second baby mama? Yeah, I move out of a house. It's a problem. Oh, why you this? Why you that? Yo, why are you worrying about me so much? Well, why is that even a question when you know why she worried about you so much? Because it's a question because why? Then it becomes a power struggle.
where she want to control things. With your daughter. With my daughter. She want to go to the media and bash me about certain things when, yo, come on, yo, how long ago was that?
But still making things relevant. Like years. Like, come on, man. Then everything, everything, every time I'm dealing with someone new, it's always, oh, you just mad because I ain't want to fuck with you. Yo, I've been accepted that. So now, Liz Six, why can't you just be causal? Yeah. You know, and it's not the down hard to defamize her character or to degrade her. But yo, like at some point, women got to let that hurt go. But it's going to take, yeah, it's going to take a long, long time because honestly, I'm going to tell you why.
Before we get up out of here, you just admitted it and you didn't even know. You used her. You went back to her a lot of times when it was convenient for you. For me, yes. But that was pulling on her heartstrings the whole time. You know what I'm saying? So you made her feel like you gave her a lot of hope a lot of times.
like oh he might come back for good to the point where even when she know you didn't mean it she tricked herself into still like just holding on to that time like believe me she tricked herself into believing you you know what I mean she just got used to being let down so she said all right I'll take him while he here you know and then that's when she would say little things to to the latest baby mother like oh yeah this that and the other that's why she made it a point of running back
Every time telling oh you know yeah Rome just left here or Rome just asked me can he come to my house or he just wanted to do this and wanted it and wanted it because it wasn't working out with her. I'm really changing and really trying to be a better man better dad better everything to be honest because you can't keep doing what you did in the past you ain't gonna get nowhere you ain't gonna never get nowhere you trying to go. Definitely. But it's like it hurts so bad that I never can get through to her.
Yeah. You will be able to. Never could get through to her. Like, it's always about what I'm doing. Yeah. When was the last time you touched her? Bryson 2. Brianna was pregnant.
Okay, so that was years ago. So that was like two, two. So that was still almost three. But you're doing what you're doing. That's different times because she ain't got you all the time. She ain't going to be lonely watching you, waiting on you to come back. You're doing what you're doing. You're having your fun. You're going on dates. You're getting dressed. You're going on trips. And then it looked like fun. I don't bother you. She makes it look like fun. I don't bother you. But the whole time she weren't about you. I don't bother you. And that's her problem now.
But that's why I asked you when the last time you touched her because, you know, that's still recent to her. In two years, it's always, oh, you broke this. Oh, you broke that. Oh, you ain't got this. Oh, you ain't got that. How you this? How you that? Yo, that shit don't bother me, man. What can we do to move forward on being better parents for my daughter? Right. And it'll happen just as long as you stay...
stay out of her bed you stay out of her house you stay out of her face and you so that she will have no other choice but to respect that shit literally you know before we get out you know I just had to clear it up because it's going to be
a live or a post or whatever the case may be. Not even a live because she don't really do live. It's going to be a post where trying to act me, manipulate me, defamize my character and all of that when it ain't what it is. And I'm not responding to that. I'm not responding to it no more. I'm too mature. I've grown. That's what I meant big. Like you're too big now for that shit. Not even like
status wise I mean just like your mind is you're on a different plateau like mentally I'm not going back and forth with it no more man but like I said to all the people out there that's how me and Jaspy you know gain the relationship we have we not perfect we definitely gelled a lot I haven't seen a co-parenting like us to all you fellas continue doing what you're doing be great
You know, be consistent. Yeah. Always get your point across. You know, always try to be civilized. You know, you ain't got to be rah-rah all the time. Yeah. To you women, same as you. You know, take your time. Try to let them emotions go. If you still have emotions there, don't be afraid to explain that. Maybe y'all can do better with him knowing.
But don't try to make that man life miserable. Don't try to take from that man, especially when you know he may have other children or another family or trying to move on or even may want to be with you. Allow that man to grow. Help that man grow. We're losing too many fathers out here. Black fathers is that.
But it's me, it's Lil Baby Phob. Romy J and I'm outta here. Yep, and I know, I know for a fact it's gonna get there, it's gonna get there with your other baby mothers and shit, but they ain't gonna never be like Jess and Roman. On that note, I'm outta here. Carefully Reckless, make sure you tune in each and every Wednesday, hump day, and now, make
Make sure you tune in at 7 p.m. every Wednesday for the live discussion. Love y'all. Peace.
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