Eight CWAZY nights (Hanukkah)
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Welcome back, Rammies. Hello, Rammies. How are you? It's the holiday season. It is. And we have a special holiday guest gift. A gift? Really? A gift from above. That's right. Hi, everyone. Hi.

And Alice. I feel like every other episode we have a story of like, and then Alice said, or we did this with Alice. I used to be the Reddit queen. That's how you guys would always call me out, which makes me sound like a huge nerd, honestly. The blogs though. It's the blogs really. Like housewives call, is it Reddit that they call the blogs?

And like DeMois, I would say, are the blogs for the housewives. What's worse is the DeMois head. That is true. I still can't believe you guys don't listen to DeMois. It's like so juicy. I can't believe. I don't trust her. I don't think she's meant to be really trusted. Yeah.

She is like, actually, I still feel like I'm figuring out what Demois is. Like that one time that I sent you guys like so many screenshots from their story because I think I was discovering it for the first time. You guys were like, yeah, we've been here. But once you're in, you're like, she just has all the tea. Demois is, for those who don't know, like the modern gossip girl, right? She is. Lives in New York. She actually knows some celebrities, correct? Yeah, she's like, I think she's a little bit of a socialite.

Yeah, her identity was revealed. Yes. And it was very dramatic because I think it was kind of like a not of her own accord. Like I think someone sort of did that without her consent. Yeah. Well, now she has a book out. But yeah, now she's really capitalizing on it. And good for her, honestly. Good for her. We love other female podcasters. We do. Guys, let's see if you ever just want some good old

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What a segue that was. She always does a good job. That was gorgeous. She does. You're welcome. You're welcome. And that is why we have our dear friend Alice on today to give us the gift, or many gifts. Many gifts. Oh, I'm going to add that. Keep going. Of talking to us about the history of Hanukkah, because last year we did a Christmas bonus episode, and this year we are going to mix it up, and we don't know a lot about Hanukkah. Claire and I are not Jewish. Nope.

But our dear Alice is. Yes, I am the token Jewish friend. You have to have one. I was thinking about it, and Tess and I grew up together, and we had a lot of Jewish friends in high school. We did. But somehow now I am the only one. I know, it's really only Donna. Yeah. And I know I'm going to forget someone, and I'm so sorry. I mean, like me and Donna, I think, are the main ones. Yeah, all the other ones. What happened to them? They're dead, Claire.

Falling out friendships in high school. I'm not going to name names. I'm like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Maybe they're listening today.

Do you think any of your enemies listen to this podcast? Are you guys listening right now? We've talked about this. There's very specific people. We'll talk about it off pod. Yes, but no, we definitely, Tess and I have wondered if our past has followed us here. Enemies and exes? I don't think any of my exes really think about me. You know what I mean? Not in a self-deprecating way like, I bet you think about me. Yeah. Sorry, guys.

Yeah. I'm sure they do, Tess. How could you forget? Show true. Show true. Oh, yeah. Guys, Alice is one of us. Shows will be heard around the world. Alice was there when show was invented. I was. And one day we'll tell that story. But it's not today. It's not today. That's true. But she, yeah, we've known each other since we were 15. Yeah. And then Claire and Alice met 26.

When was that first Austin trip? 18. 2018. Yes. What a gorgeous trip that was. Yes, it really was. Claire and I's first time meeting. We're in Austin, Texas for Tessa's birthday trip. That was a great trip. That was a great trip. We were out on the boat. It was a wild time. Yeah. We were in an Airbnb with books that were like

Don't masturbate. Masturbate because Jesus is watching. That was a religious Airbnb experience. It's true. Bringing it back to religion. Oh, yes. To bring it back. Once again. Yes, to bring it back. But yeah, we all love each other and we're so excited for Alice to teach us a goddamn thing or two. Thank you. Yes, about Hanukkah. I feel so honored to be a guest on this here podcast. Oh. My favorite podcast. Stop, stop, stop. I'm a true Ramy through and through. You really are. That is true. Yeah, I've got all the merch. She does? I can't wait.

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Oh, I love that. So first of all, I am not an expert. I did go to Hebrew school. I was bat mitzvahed. I am not religious. I think most of the Jews that I know, maybe that's not true, but a lot of Jews tend to end up, I think, either agnostic or atheist, even if they're raised Jewish. Why do you think that is? I think Judaism sort of encourages you to question things.

Which is a great thing. Yeah. I think that religion should make you. There are a lot of agnostic and atheist Jews. And, like, I still consider myself Jewish just for, like, the tradition and the culture. Yeah. But, like, I'm not religious. See, I do think of it as a very, like, traditional, like, celebrating tradition religion. Well, we have to because we're always being killed off. People are always really going after. Just to take it there immediately. To persecution. Tess and I are like, yeah.

Gotta really cherish every last moment you can. Not that other religions aren't persecuted, but throughout history there is a pattern. I would say. That is true. That is true. And this story does include trigger warning, some persecution. Okay. If that's sensitive for you. Yeah, yeah. If that sounds good for you. Yeah.

So this is a story that I was told, and I'm sure there are other versions of it, but you can look those up on your own time if you want to. No, we only believe you, whatever you say. My sources? Yes. History.com. Our mother. Our mother. And Wikipedia. Our stepfather. Our stepfather, yeah. Keep it in the family. We go there every day. If you don't know, again, we say history.com is our mother because we can trust her. And...

Wikipedia as their stepfather because he's always there but you can't always trust him. You can't rely on it. But you can sometimes. There's nice moments. Yes, exactly. Alright, so let me take you back, way back to before Common Era.

Before Common Era? It used to be like B.C. and A.D., like before Christ and then after. Oh, but it's for Judaism. But also, like, I don't think historians use those terms anymore because it's like so narrow. So now they say B.C.E. before Common Era and then C.E. for Common Era. Oh, I love that. I know, interesting. I feel like that's so much better. That is better. It's a little more welcoming. Yeah. Thank you for telling us. You're so welcome. So this is the year is 200 B.C.E.,

And King Antiochus III, the Great, took over Judea, which is where Israel-Palestine is. And he wanted to be a benevolent ruler. And so he wanted to let the Jews live in his realm and, like, practice their religions and their customs. Now, he was...

I guess, prayed to the Greek gods. I don't know what you call that, but like he was not Jewish. Christianity, not a thing yet. Okay. So he was like, yes, sure. The Jews can come in. They can live in this realm. Even though I'm the ruler, they can do their own thing. I'll do my own thing. Okay. Okay. So then 15 years later, his son took over. His name is also Antiochus. I don't know if I'm saying that correctly. Sounds right. It sounds right to me. Wait,

Better than we usually do. Get confident about it. Yes, it's about being confident when you don't know how to pronounce something. Just really going for it. So the son was like, actually, no.

Judaism, that's not okay. It's against the law. And everyone has to pray to my gods, the Greek gods. And the Jews were like, huh, okay. But then his soldiers came in and desecrated their holy site, which is the second temple, which is in Jerusalem, which still exists today in some form. I'm not exactly sure what it's called now. Was his dad still alive? No, I don't think so. Oh, so that's why he took over. Yeah, he was the king and he was like, actually, you guys, this isn't okay anymore. And I'm going to desecrate your holy site and I'm going to kill thousands.

Oh my God. So he made it illegal? Yes. I know. What the hell, man? Yeah. I guess some fathers and sons, you know, sons want to rebel against the fathers. There's a lot there. Yeah, there's a lot. And we don't have to get into that. I feel like it's like Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles. You know, like a good ruler and then one that we're like, yeah, it's so true. But I digress. Yeah.

Okay, so we have Antiochus. He's like, absolutely not. They're killing thousands of Jews. So the Jews, they form a rebellion and retaliation, and they actually are doing really well with it. And by 164 BCE, they actually drive the Syrians, which is the ruling party,

Out of Jerusalem. And they're led by this guy named Judah Maccabee, nicknamed the Hammer. I think Maccabee must mean hammer. Don't quote me on that. Oh. But that's like an important figure in the story. It's an iconic name. The Maccabees. Maccabees. Yeah. That's the name of like the rebellion. Okay. Okay. So you might have heard. This sounds. Yes. This sounds familiar. Good. Good.

Yay. Good for us. So they drive the Syrians out and they're like, yay, amazing. But then their holy site is still all messed up and dirty. And so they want to clean it up, rebuild it, and then relight the seven branched gold candelabra. Another name for a candelabra is? A menorah. Yes. Good job, Claire. Wow. Nice. And the menorah just represents like knowledge and creation and it's always meant to be burning. Yeah.

And if you go into any like modern day synagogue, they do have like an ever burning light. It's usually electric. Got it. Fire safety. Fire safety. What would they do before that? Just like when someone would have to go light it. Truly just like a call. Do they have like a, yeah, a night, a night person? Maybe. I mean, a night shift. Wow. There should be a night rabbi, if you will. If you will. I have no idea. Yeah. There's meant to be like an, an always burning flame. Got it. Um,

Okay, so now comes the miracle. Tell us about it, Alice. So even though there was only enough oil to keep the menorah burning for one day, the flames stayed lit for eight quain nights. Oh! It was a miracle. We don't know. What do you think it was? A miracle. A miracle.

Magic. Oh my God, of course. Yeah, definitely. A higher power. Definitely not just like a story that we've passed on for generations. No, no, no. It had to happen. It was an angel. Yeah, it always is. I don't know. I do believe there are like forces at work in the world sometimes. Yeah. But I also think most religions, like they need stories to tell future generations and like they need reasons and this is a good reason. Yeah, totally. So now we have modern day Hanukkah. Yeah.

which is celebrated with a menorah that has nine little branches. So one candle for each night and then a helper candle that lights the other ones. Oh. So first you light the helper candle, then you go like night one, night two, night three. Wow.

Got it. I thought you said there were seven. It lasted for seven days. Eight. Eight. Eight crazy nights? Eight crazy nights. Eight crazy nights. Yeah. You literally said that 10 seconds ago. Should we call this episode eight crazy nights? Eight crazy nights. Okay. I see. Eight days. Okay. Well, eight nights, I guess, technically. But yeah. And they're, sorry.

They were rebuilding after they drove out the guy who said that I'm going to persecute you. So they had driven the Syrians out of at least Jerusalem, if not the whole like area. I'm not really sure, but they definitely, it was like a successful rebellion. And then they were like, we have to rebuild community. Community. Truly. Um,

So, yeah, now we have modern day Hanukkah. And we have the menorah that you light and other traditions, like eating foods fried in oil because the oil. Oh, my God. I never realized that. I didn't know that either. Yeah. So we have latkes, which are Tessa's favorite. I can't think about it. Fried potato pancakes. Nothing better. Wait there without applesauce. So.

So there's two like condiments that it's generally served with. One would be applesauce. One would be sour cream. I like sour cream even better with it. I think I would too. I think both are good. A combination, if you will. Truly the trio of all three. Savor and sweet. Mm-hmm. A little savory and sweet. And then the other thing is a jelly-filled donut, which in Hebrew is sufganiyot. And delicious. What could be bad about that? Why that? Why that?

Fried in oil again. So really, like, if you fry it, I'll try it sort of thing. Like, they're taking anything. Yeah. It's got to be oily, though. It's very important. Yum. Damn. Food is such a big part of most religious traditions, but I think especially Jewish traditions. Is...

And, like, a lot of Jewish people don't eat pork, right? So that's, like, the kosher thing, yeah. Okay. In the Old Testament, which is our holy book, Torah. I say our, like, I'm practicing Jew. I am not. Hey, you still are connected to it. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. So, yeah, like, pig and certain kinds of shellfish are considered to be...

Treif, which is like unclean, which is like forbidden. Fun fact, the restaurant that I used to work at in New York called Treif.

So she, say the celebrities you saw there for our listeners. Well, Olivia Wilde and Jason Stekus back in the day. Wow, wow, wow, wow. They sat at the bar because we were super busy and he like shielded her from the public. He like sat on the outside of the bar and was sort of like turned inwards to her and I was like, wow, what a beautiful couple. And to hear more about that, check out our Patreon. Thank you, Alice. Thank you.

Just trying to help her. It was such a chic restaurant. I went there once when she was working and it was hot, honestly. Right? You were finishing up a shift? I think I was. Yeah, I think you and our friend Maddie had dinner. Yes, yes. It was hot to see her in action. I just feel like you are the book sweet bitter. Always. Oh, God. I do. I hope not. Yeah, I guess that's true. It's pretty depressing. But that was your life in New York. What a time. Yeah, what a time. What a time.

So we got the fried foods. Yes, fried foods. And then the other things are like playing the game of dreidel, which I didn't bring with me because I do not have one. But it's like a little spinning top and it has four different...

I think four. Correct me if I'm wrong. Four different sides to it. And like if it lands on a certain side, it like means a certain thing. And it is a gambling game, essentially. Oh, that's fun. Which like really playing into those stereotypes about Jews and money. Am I right, guys? Oh. Do you not support dreidel? I don't really feel one way or another. Neutral and dreidel. I just think it's funny. Yeah.

And then also giving gelt, which like used to be just like regular money, but now it's just like a chocolate coin. I'll take chocolate or money. And I have some at home. Yeah. Oh, I was like, you brought them for us? I meant to. I forgot. That's okay. Hey, I used to love getting those at a bar. I bought mitzvahs. Yeah, so fun. They were just like hand out bags of them. They're not just for Hanukkah. Yeah.

I mean, they are traditionally for Hanukkah, but I think. I feel like I always used to get them at bat mitzvahs in like a little bag at the end. Why not? Yeah. Why is Hanukkah in December? Okay, so this brings us to our next section. Nice transition. Thank you. I did not even know. Just a few like fun facts slash a little debunking. Yes.

So I feel like some commonly asked questions, like, is it just Jewish Christmas? Oh, yes. That is a question. Yeah. And like, yes and no, I think. So Hanukkah itself doesn't have a lot of like religious significance in the way that Christmas does birth of Christ. Um,

And it's technically kind of like a minor Jewish holiday. Like there are other Jewish holidays that are much bigger and like celebrated much more widely. Like Rosh Hashanah. Rosh Hashanah, which is the new year. Yom Kippur. Yom Kippur, Day of Atonement. I feel like until I moved to LA, I truly only, ignorantly, only knew about Hanukkah. Yeah. It's definitely the most commercial Jewish holiday. And I think that's because it takes place when the hell is Hanukkah. It takes place...

Anywhere from like early November to the end of December because it's based on the Jewish calendar, which is not the same as the calendar that we use. It's not always the same days. No.

It changes literally every year. We never know. Rosh Hashanah is the Jewish New Year? Yes. Rosh Hashanah is the Jewish New Year. Wow. Oh, wow. So it's like on the Hebrew calendar or Jewish calendar. It's the 25th of Kislev. I don't know what that means. Me either. But it's different than like the calendar that we use. Yeah, yeah. The Gregorian calendar. Oh, okay. Makes sense. Yeah.

And then I feel like another commonly asked question would be like, you get eight presents? You're so lucky because it does last for eight nights. And I just want to say one year my parents gave me a tongue scraper for one of the nights. So like, please calm down. Please calm down.

It's like functional. You do get a present every night, but it's not like eight big presents. But it could be. But I think that's such a parent thing for the holidays to be like, here's a present. You open it and like it's something functional. It's something that they maybe got at CVS that they're like, you could use this for your socks. Totally. I love socks though as a gift. Well, I will say, I feel like as I was younger, I remember my sister getting a grocery card gift card once and she was so excited. I was like, you're like, how depressing. Literally. And now I'm like, I get an American.

I know. Now I'm like, please, someone give me a Venmo. I know. I'm like, everyone just send me a Venmo. I'll take a tongue scraper. That is literally adulthood is realizing that like you do want socks for the holiday. And money. Yeah, and money. And things for your kitchen. No kidding. Growing up. Yeah. Growing up. Okay, got it. So presents are kind of like they can be-

Is there one night that's like this is the big present night? No, I don't think so. I feel like the first night is probably like the biggest night. And so maybe you would get your big present then or the last night. Yeah. So do you have to be like, is it something where you have to be there every single night? Like if you're with your family? It really depends. I feel you do like light the candles every night and that's the main thing. So it's not like a feast every night. Mm hmm.

I don't think so. God, I imagine it like an eight day long celebration. Like every night there's a big dinner. If you're probably, if you're like really religious. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. But again, it's like not really a religious holiday. I think commercialism and like,

of, like, wanting to have something to celebrate along the holiday time alongside Christmas and, like, Kwanzaa, I guess, which I don't know anything about. Maybe we should do it next year. Next year. Truly. Yeah. But, like, those are the big three, right? Yeah. I would say so, for sure. Do people drink? The sun, moon, and rising, if you will. I bet Jewish would be the... The Hanukkah sun and the Christmas moon. Yes, yes. Thank you. The Kwanzaa rising. Yeah. Do people drink a lot of wine? I mean, like, always. Is it, like, a big drinking holiday?

I will say in Judaism, it's considered like a mitzvah, which is like a good deed to drink on specifically on the Sabbath. So specifically on Friday night. We love that. You're supposed to get drunk on Friday night. Oh, drunk. Why don't you get drunk on wine on Friday night, Alice? Yeah. Because of the hangover. That's true.

31 ain't so kind anymore. Sure ain't. Does kosher wine hit better? Kosher wine is disgusting. Oh. Hot take. You heard it here first. Yeah. Is it more alcoholic? No, I don't think so. I think it's just worse. But also, can't wine just be kosher if a rabbi blesses it? I think it has to be like, yeah, blessed by a rabbi and maybe made in a certain way. But it is just disgusting.

But you know what does hit sometimes? What? It's Manischewitz, though. What's that? Manischewitz is like, they make grape juice, but they also make wine. Oh, yes, yes, yes. It's like the Jewish brand. Yum. And like the wine is so sweet. It tastes like grape juice. Oh, wow. So you're basically just getting drunk on grape juice. Yummy dangerous. I love a dry grape juice. I do, too. This is not dry. Oh, wow. Maybe we'll try some. Yeah. I should have brought some. Yeah. I know. Hey. This weekend. Yeah, this weekend. It's true.

So that's Hanukkah, guys. I love that. Do I have any more questions? I do have one little other thing. I'm trying to think of any questions. Of course. See, now she's comfortable. She's confident. Don't you say a prayer as you're lighting the candles as well? Yes. May you? No. May I? I did it last year. Do you know it, Tess? I don't remember. I did it last year. I only know Baruch Atah Adonai Meleheinu Melech Ha'olam.

That was really good. Wow, you had that. I tried to put it in. That was stunning. The honor, Alice. That's another thing about Hanukkah. It's a strong pen. Hit hard, girl. Oh, yeah, we've already hit it. Strong pen. If you haven't been able to tell. It's like you can spell it two different ways. There's like a C-H and then there's an H. God, that's always so... It's like Italian.

How, like, the C-H is a... Like a ch. A ch. Or, no, wait. C-H in Italian is not ch. It's ki. Ki. Like a chianti. Yeah. Yeah, so that's C-H-I. Yeah. Really fucking confusing. Hebrew is a confusing language. Can't even imagine. But it's crazy. And I do love, like, again, I love that this has such rich tradition. Like, there are tons of people who learn Hebrew. Like, there's actually a ton of people who know Hebrew. Yeah. I mean, it's spoken, obviously, I think, most in Israel. Right. Yeah.

But then, like, yeah, a lot of Jewish kids learn some Hebrew. I mean, I used to know some Hebrew. I used to be able to read it. I don't know if I really can anymore. But, yeah. Yeah. Would you guys ever want to go to Israel? Sure. Well, Donna, our other friend from high school, just went this summer. She's Israeli. And I was like, this looks like the most fun city. And so I messaged her, and I was just like, should I go? And she's like, it's the best. She brought her husband, and she was like, he said it's the best food city he's ever been to. Tel Aviv?

Yes. And it just seems like a part. Like it seems so fun. Tel Aviv is like very much like a, maybe not a New York because it's very like outdoor, indoor and it's on the water. But what would be a good comparison? Not really LA either. It's very gay. It's like the gayest city in the Middle East, I would assume. Love. And it's on the beach. It's like a lot of clubs. I mean, it's like a Miami is what it is. Yeah. Like the weather's good. Weather's good. It's like a party city.

There is a really good food scene there. Israel has great food. I've also heard nothing but good things. Same, except for the conflict.

Oh yeah, that is tough. Right. Thank you for taking it there, Alice. We have to remain grounded. We needed to. We have to put it in context of like, there is still quite a lot of... Yes. Did you do birthright? I did, yeah. That's so cool. Controversial, but yeah. Why? They're just like, it's a very, very pro-Israel program because obviously they're trying to get young American Jews to return to Israel, to move there. That's very important to keep...

populated by like a new generation of Jews. Right, right. It's part, I think it's very ingrained because of the persecution and the fact that so many Jews have been murdered or exterminated that like it's very important to like procreate and to continue to have new generations of Jewish people. Yeah, I guess I could see that, but isn't that anyone being born in religion of like you're not really getting to make a choice? But I do, I don't know, I think it's actually a really beautiful thing. Aww.

Yeah. I guess I don't know much about it, but I'm like, they just wanted to keep the tradition alive. Yeah. I just think it's such like a community, like family-based. Do you think kids are forced into it or they want to go? To go to Israel? Yeah, to go. On birthright? Yeah. Oh, okay.

I don't think anyone's like forced to. It's like a fun trip. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's free, first of all. It's free. It is a free trip to Israel. Who wouldn't? The flight is free. The whole thing is free. What if you're like, I want to upgrade to first class? Then you have to pay for that, Tess. You're so fucking bougie. Tess recently told me that she won't go back to Hawaii unless she flies first class.

I said it, and I can't change it. I want to go to Hawaii first class. It's just expensive here right now. I haven't all... Yeah, I mean, I have been to Hawaii first class a few times. It's very nice. There's nothing to be ashamed of. Also, if you're an adult, this is what we... This is how you want to spend it. Exactly. It's a long flight over the water. And sometimes...

Molly and I went first class once when we were like 19. And our flight attendant was like, how old are you girls? And we were like, um. And she's like, I know you're not really 21. And she gave us Mai Tais the entire time. We were blackout drunk. I think we had like six. Those are the heroes. Those are the heroes. And to that flight attendant, if you're out there somewhere, we salute you. We do. I remember you. Wow. Always. But yeah, love going first class. Yeah.

So if anyone has any hookups, let me know. Yes, please. Julie, always here for an upgrade. Always. Wow. I would love that as well. Free trip to Israel. So cool. How long is it? God, like eight days. I don't know. Oh, eight days for Hanukkah. Oh, I don't know. I'm still thinking about it.

It is a long flight. Yeah. Yeah. How long is that flight to Israel? It's long. I mean, I think it goes from the East Coast, so it's different, I feel like. But it was a long flight. Don't ask me. I think we had to stop somewhere. Don't ask me which direction either. You could go both directions, couldn't you? I guess that's true. You're really good. The world is round. Do you hear? Is it? She's debunking all the theories today, folks. To all you flat earthers out there. That's right. Come for us. Do it. Do it.

Well, Alice, did you know that we have a game of Love It or Leave It? I did know that. Did you have one more thing you wanted to say? I'm so sorry. Please, please. It was fine. I thought we would do like a little inspired by, you guys know Adam Sandler's The Hanukkah Song? Oh, yeah. Of course. Insert clip here if you can. One day of presents. Hell no. We get the eight. Woo.

What a great song. Yeah, no kidding. So these are my top five favorite slash unexpected Jewish celebrities? Yes.

Okay, coming in at number five. Yeah. Did you guys know that Daniel Radcliffe is half Jewish? Really? Yes. Is he? Mom or dad? He's Jewish mom, Irish dad. Wow. Isn't Judaism passed down from your mother's side? It is, yeah. I'm still confusing that. Okay, got it. Wow. So if your mom is Jewish, you are Jewish.

seen as Jewish in the Jewish faith. Interesting. That is interesting. Wow, Daniel Radcliffe, Harry Potter. Harry Potter's half Jewish. Bless him. He's a good one. That little man, Short King. Another Short King. Definitely Short King. Coming in at number four, our neighbor, because she lives in Pacific Palisades, Jamie Lee Curtis. Oh!

Oh, yeah. She was talking about all the recent. Oh, yeah. Remarks on today. Today's show. Today's show. She got really emotional. She did. She's a beautiful person. She's an emotional person. I appreciate that. She has to have Pisces in her chart somewhere. There's got to be. I think so. She must. Yeah. I love. Wow. Jamila Curtis. Her father, Tony Curtis, also an actor, was Jewish. Wow. Oh, wait. That's her dad? Oh, yeah. How did I not make that connection? Tony Curtis from Sun Like It Hot. Can't picture.

So like a star. Yeah. Huge star. She comes with Jack Lemon. Yes. She comes from like a very like. God, doesn't everyone fuck? Like once you think that someone like just made it from like being a kid actor, you're like, oh, their parents are like. No. Yeah, exactly. Royalty. She comes from a famous family. And yeah, she lives in the Pacific Palisades. I love the Pacific Palisades. Saw her there. Inside her house. Such a good sighting. Number three, the star of Claire's favorite film, Jack.

School of Rock. Sing it, Claire. Sing it. No, you're not hardcore. Truly one of my favorite movies of all time. She quotes it once a week. I do. It's a great movie. Oh, Jack Black. That is another great one. So he was raised Jewish. His mom was Jewish and his dad actually converted. And then his parents divorced when he was 10. Oh. And he's now an atheist. Okay. I see that. He's not practicing Jew. I don't know that he would consider himself Jewish. Right. I see. It's there. It's in his blood. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

Um, number two, not an unexpected, but just like one of our faves, our King, if you will, if you will, Seth Rogen. Oh, I thought you were going to say Andy Cohen. But Seth Rogen. Yes. They're both. Yes. Alice is in the group chat. Andy Cohen is our King, which is our housewives group chat. If you know, you know, um,

Seth Rogen. Seth Rogen. Who we're all, are you not attracted to him? No, I'm so attracted to him. Okay, yes. Okay, we're all super, who's not? Who is not? There's someone that's like, I don't see it. I don't know. I don't know who it is, but I know there is someone as well. Is it Hannah? Hannah, is it you? Is it you? Hannah, call in. Let us know. She's like at work. Oh, no, she has a day off. We could call in. Good for you, Hannah. People are like, we don't need this to be.

Oh, Seth Rogen is very sexy. Yeah. We love his brand houseplant. We do. We should try to get them to collab. That's what I'm saying. Call us, Seth Rogen and houseplant. 100%. If anyone has a K'nex, you know he'd fit right into Ram. Oh, absolutely. With that laugh. Manifest it. I would die. He's real cutie. The Long Shot, such an underrated movie. Such a good movie.

Coming in at number one. Who's your number one? Oh. I mean, there's probably a lot more than this. It was really hard to narrow this down to top five. But the Heim sisters. I knew it. I knew you were going to say it. I'm so glad you said that. Our Jewish queens. Our L.A. Valley Jewish queens. L.A. Valley Jewish queens through and through. Truly. If you guys don't know Heim, the...

Get on it. Should we say some of the other celebrities we wrote down when we're on the celebrity? Yeah, if we want to right now. Some of our shout outs. Yeah, some of our shout outs that we, and maybe we can ask you how you feel about them. Sure. As performers, as icons, as celebrities. Chelsea Handler. Queen. Queen. Icon. Legend. Legend.

love her more than anything. I used to watch her show like in high school I feel like. I went to a taping of it when I first came to LA. Took a picture with Chewy. I have a picture with Chewy too. Yes. He was on

When I was filming a short film, he was there. Short king. Short king. R.I.P. I know Chewy. I still have the phone thing. She would pass out and the crowd said Chewy's balls. Oh, that's right. Chewy would pass out. They really had a special relationship. They sure did. Yeah, she is a queen. Also our marijuana queen. Our everything. Everything. Yeah. Truly. Love her. Love her. Andy Cohen, we have said. Obviously. Andy Samberg.

Hot. Hot. Hot. When he, like, came onto the scene when we were in high school, I think. It was like, ah. I was just like, huh. Oh, he was very 2008, 2009, too. The SNL digital shorts, and you were just like, wow. He was, like, the funny, goofy, cute guy that you're, like, you could imagine almost dating him. By next door. He's, like, he's an all-American Jew, if you will. Would you put him in the same category, just celebrity-wise, as, like, a Pete Davidson? Mm-hmm.

Great question. Like the young guy, SNL. That is a great question. He definitely has more of the grungy. Bad boy. All the tattoos. Andy Samberg, I think, is more like clean cat. I agree. He's like the sweet boy. He's literally like someone I would have like gone to Hebrew school with and would have been like super annoying. And then later you're like, wait, is he getting hot? You're getting your, you're going through your bar bat mitzvah and you're like, huh, I'm feeling something. Yep. He reminds me so much of a,

my like elementary and middle school crush who's Jewish. We cannot. Privacy. We cannot. But he, like that vibe, he kind of looks like him too. Absolutely. Yeah. Hot. Yes. Very. Natalie Portman. What are your thoughts? Yeah. I mean, gorgeous. Yes. Great actress, I think. Beautiful woman. Good in some things, not good in others. She's a great actress. I think she's pretty good. People think that, people always are like, I don't think Natalie Portman is talented. In the Star Wars prequels, which like,

Those are bad movies. Well, not interested. She is bad. I had a professor in college, my theater professor, who was like, if there is one actress who should not have gone into this profession who was like trash, it's Natalie Portman. And she kind of ingrained it in us. One? And I'm like, actress? I could think of like seven right now. I mean, honey. Have we seen? We all know. I mean, there's so many. Yeah, there's a lot. Yeah. As I'm like clawing my way to be like, I'll try. Make enemies, Claire. Do it.

Say their name. Shno. Say it all. Shno. We'll tag them. Mention it all, if you will. Yeah, mention it all. Mention it all. But yeah. No, I think Natalie Portman's great. No, I think she's good. Closer. Good movie. Everyone does it for acting class. Everyone does the scene. Oh my god, you're so right. The art gallery scene. And the stripper scene. Oh yeah. Yeah, exactly. Oh god, I did it once. Because it was a play, wasn't it? I'm ashamed of it.

It's a play. For Patreon, should we do the close-up? Wait, for your Patreon? Oh my gosh, should we just read the whole play? Do you like the top five most annoying monologues that people do? That would be so funny. It would be painful. There's nothing worse than someone saying... Reasons to be pretty. Reasons to be pretty is always one. Bullshit. Yeah. Bullshit. I did a scene from that in high school.

with Alex Mead. Alex, if you're listening, we love you. We do love you. I don't know if you listen to this, though. We'll find out. We will. Next up, Alice. Sarah Silverman. Yeah, she's an interesting one for me, to be honest. I used to like her a lot. She has done, I think, some questionable things. She can tweet some questionable things.

Yeah. Yeah. I think she's complicated. Aren't we all? Funny woman. Aren't we all? Bring it back to School of Rock. Remember when she was with, what's his face? Kate Beckinsale's ex-husband? Yes. What's his name? I don't know. Such an interesting couple. No kidding. But anyway. Dead silence. Dead silence.

Well, I think that's it for the celebrities that we have. I think so. We can move on to Love It or Leave It. Because we did have the Hines sisters, obviously. Yes. And we did talk about some of these as you have some of the Love It or Leave It questions. We've already covered it in your history. But I think we should do Love It or Leave It with them. We must. Play the theme song. Yep. Oh, do we have one? You should. We should. We will now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, we should make one. Like game show music? We will. Chris? Chris? Okay, Tess, you want to start us off?

Latkes. Oh, love it. Love it. Love it. Delish. Please go make some if you have never tried them. Yes. Alice, love it or leave it, please say the donut name again. Souf Gagnote. Souf Gagnote. Sounds good. That was good, Claire. Thank you. Love it. I mean, like, who doesn't love a jelly-filled donut? Love it. With a little powdered sugar on top? Yum. I think...

I'm not a big like jelly filled donut person. I'm not a big donut person. I like the gourmet donuts from like Blue Star. Same, but I don't want like a Krispy Kreme. I don't like a Krispy Kreme, but I like like an old fashioned donut. Yeah, I'd say leave it for me. Okay. I'm sure I bring it there. What is it? Isn't it like every four out of five dentists? So there always has to be one. I think it's nine out of 10 dentists, which is even crazier. That is crazy. That is crazy. Yeah.

Matzah. Leave it. Really? I love it. Okay, so non-Jews usually do really like matzah. Yes. Did you eat it so much as a kid that you were like... It is gross and it sits in your stomach. Wait, what is it again? It is a cracker, essentially. Oh, the cracker. I guess I'm thinking matzah ball soup more. Okay. I should have been more specific. So matzah, just the cracker that you eat for pasta.

Passover. Right. You're not allowed to eat any bread. Yeah. I would not do well. What a torturous holiday. Holiday. I'm doing air quotes. Like, what the fuck? It's rolling your eyes. It's my least favorite Jewish holiday. I do have a strong feeling about Passover. So matzah is just like an unleavened, unsalted cracker. It's pretty bland. It's really dry. Really bland. There's some jelly on it, though. Still hate it. All right. So leave it. Yeah. But matzah ball soup. Delicious. I love this story. Yummy. What about brisket?

Love it. Oh. Yeah. Love it. Yes. Didn't grow up with it, but love it. You didn't grow up with it? You were in Tennessee for a time? My dad's a vegetarian. Oh, I see. I see. And we didn't eat any red meat in the house growing up. It's probably for the best. But hey. I didn't have red meat until I was 18. What? Yeah. Because my parents weren't big on it and my dad couldn't have it. And so the first time I had it was from takeout somewhere and I was like,

I was like, I've been missing out. It all changes when you have your first hamburger. I was like, what the fuck have I been eating? I'm from Arkansas, so I'm pretty sure it was like a bottle and a burger. A bottle and a brisket. Maybe with a bottle and a brisket. Yeah, I guess I'll say love it. Sometimes brisket's not my fave. Is it the texture? No, it's like...

I don't know. But I'll still say love it because it is still, I can recognize that it is good. Hey. Hey. Hey. It's hard sometimes. It is. It's hard out there. It really is? Mm-hmm.

Oh, it's my turn. Hala. Oh, love it. Love it. Yummy. Love it. Oh, love Hala. Just some butter on there. Oh, nothing is better. Truly. It's the best. God, I want some right now. Soft white bread. Like what could be bad? I used to nanny a kid and she went to a Jewish preschool and every Friday they would make Hala and send them home with one. And so on Friday it was like score. That's what, doesn't Hannah say that her kids have Hala and grape juice? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So cute. On a Friday. So good. On a Friday.

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Is that true? Yes. Gifts spread out or all at once? I knew you were going to type that. And it's interesting. I wrote that before, obviously. Yes. I think gifts all at once. Like, I do prefer that Christmas sort of feeling. I have done, like, little Christmas celebrations with friends and stuff. And, like, God, seeing them there all under the tree. It is magical.

That's the other thing. I do love Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. And you can love both. You can. I think you can. You can hate both. You can do whatever you want. That's true. What do you guys think? Spread out? I love anticipation. I love a surprise. I think spread out. I think every day I'd wake up and be like, oh, I get a new one today. Yeah. Even if it is just a tongue scraper. She's like, well, maybe we stuff it up a little. First class tickets to Hawaii. Oh. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Everyone's like, we're never getting any of that. Dream big, sweetheart.

Sounds like you are dreaming big. I am. I'm going to say all at once. Nice. I love like just ripping into all of them. Are you a ripper? Oh, yeah. I used to like get upset. My mom was always like, let's just put it in a bag and call it a day. And I was like, these presents need to be wrapped. I'm sorry.

I was such a bitch. You were like, and ribbons and two layers of wrapping paper. She's like, I'm exhausted. It's also so expensive. Yes. Wrapping paper is not cheap. Wrap them. No. Wrap them. Wrap them. Like the chic wrapping paper? Oh, so expensive. I almost got something wrapped at Paper Source a couple months ago. Oh, no. Oh, for Allison, I think for her birthday. Sorry, Allison. But I was literally like...

I was like, how much is this going to be? And they were like, for all of this? And I was like, yeah. And they were like, for each present, it would be $35 to wrap. And I was like, is this a joke? It was more expensive than the book. Lisa Barlow, are you crazy? Are you crazy? No. So yeah, Paper Source, you guys. Used to be a Jewish queen. Formerly Jewish, yeah. Formerly. I can't. Shut up.

Shout out to all the Jewish housewives. We can't get into it. But we should say that in the new year for Bravo fans that listen to us, we will be having some Bravo things in our Ram atmosphere. There's very exciting things coming, guys. Didn't know this, and I am shook to the core. I'm so excited. Yes, we're going to bring it in. We're going to bring it in. Yes. That's what people want. That's what people need. It's true. It's true. So look out 2023. We're coming for you. We are coming for you.

Do you like gold and blue as a color combo? Like UCLA, right? Yeah. Yeah.

I like it. I don't love it. I know, Shami. I don't love it either. But, like, do you guys like red and green as a color combo? During the holidays. A dark red and green. Like, almost like a maroon forest. Like, that's really chic to me. When I think of Hanukkah, I think of blue and white. Yeah. Did I write that down wrong? No, I think it's like both. We went over this. Yeah, and I didn't. Well, blue and white are the Israeli flag colors. Right, right.

And I feel like are traditionally associated with Judaism. And then the gold, I think, is an accent color. Gold is like a celebratory color. I also didn't think of, or no, no, I don't know what I'm saying. Sorry. What I was going to say is that the blue reminds me of Ramona Blue. Wow. To bring it there again. She's not a Jewish queen. She is absolutely. We can't get into it, honestly. No. We don't have the time. I'm so sorry. Shh.

But we will talk about it afterwards. Yes, yes, yes. Wow, is that? No, the gelt. I was just saying the gold, like the gelt. Love. Love. Love chocolate. Love chocolate or real money. I'll take that. Also, oh, this is what I was going to add. It's not about Hanukkah, but it's just about your life. I love it or leave it. A themed bat mitzvah or no themed? Okay, so I had no theme. I know. Kunal's always shook at that.

I do think it was like a big bar bat mitzvah with like a girl and like the big poofy skirt and like it almost looks like a wedding like that is more of an east coast Jewish thing okay yep and when my freshman year roommate in college came from Westchester which is outside of New York it's super super Jewish and like she had that big yeah big bat mitzvah and I can't remember what the theme was it might have been Hollywood or like something like that it's always Hollywood themed but

But the ones, I went to like maybe five or six. Yeah. And I think only one of them was themed. I think the rest of them were just like you wore a little cocktail dress. Maybe West Coast is more chill about it. Maybe. Where we grew up especially, the Jewish culture is like pretty chill, I think. Also what West Coast culture is more chill about is like prom dresses, I feel. My prom dress was so casual. Everyone wore short, casual. I wore long one year but still casual. Yeah.

I wore prom as long every year. Yours were like fancy fancy. Ours was like gowns. I love that. California's just like, like where you're Birkenstocks. Yeah, I don't even wear heels. Fuck it. No makeup. Yeah, I had lice on prom, so. I was there, guys. I was there. You had lice?

It was so dramatic. That's devastating. I found out I got it when I was getting my, I met McKinley at the salon three hours until prom, was getting my hair curled. And I sat down. They're like, how you doing, sweetie? And I was like, good. I'm so excited. It's my senior prom. My dress was hot that year. I'm going to say it. Oh, so hot. That was like the hottest I've ever looked, I think, in high school. I bet. It was like very sexual. I think I was like coming into my own. I was like, I'm going to get my hair in like big waves. I was really feeling myself. Wow.

And they were like, get out. And I was like, what? And they were like, you are covered in lice. It's like the worst place to be is a hair salon. And they literally were like, get out right now. And I just looked at McKinley's mom and I was like, I have to go. And she's like, why sweetie? And I was like, I guess I have lice. And she was like, oh my God. She's like, get out. Yes. So then I told my mom. She's like, fuck Tess. And she goes to CVS and gets the stuff. We like.

now like an hour and a half before photos are being taken. You literally couldn't write this better. Like it is like the plot of like a teen movie. Truly. Well, did you get to go? So yes. So I did like the poison on your head. And then I was like, what am I going to do? And I called Donna and Molly. Sweet angels to this day. I'm always like, this is sisterhood. This is friendship. They came over. They did my hair. Donna curled it. And Molly helped with my makeup. And they're like, we got to go. And they just made sure to like wash their hands and like not like touch. Wow.

Wow. And so I ended up going and you're like the next day there's a Lysa outbreak. Well then it came out that there were certain people that also had Lysa that had been hiding it and we're not going to name names but we know that a bunch of our friends were like yeah I've also had it in the past few weeks. And they didn't tell anyone? They just didn't say. There was truly like a little mini outbreak. When we were like six.

18 at this point. Look, we've all had lice. Multiple times. Like, it is nothing to be ashamed of. No. It happens to our fault. It's not because you're dirty. It's not because you're clean, they say. And when I was dancing at prom, I would be very conscious of, like, bending it. Talk about who you grinded with at prom. Let's get it. Like, I'm really just going to bend it low so my hair doesn't touch.

Oh my god, Tess, again, you and your stories aren't too much. We have some good ones. Great ones. Go Vikings. Go Vikings. You know, you know. Valley High? Valley High. What? Yes, and then I had it for three months. I couldn't get rid of it, but that's a whole other story. Do a whole episode on it. History of life. But thank God. How did we even get on this topic, you guys? How did we get prom dresses? I started talking about how hot I think I looked at prom.

This is all my fault. Oh, bar mitzvahs. Oh, yeah. Of course. Yeah, all goes back. I've never been to one. I'm so disappointed. Well, we're going to have one. Yeah, we're going to have one. Watch Cha Cha Real Slow on Apple TV. Oh, yes. And there's some bar mitzvahs in there. Okay. To like live vicariously. Truly. And you can see like the essence of it. I love that. I love the things of like, it sounds so weird with 13-year-olds thinking they're the shit. Me too. It's so funny. There are.

a few good like pieces of like jewish film and tv i think like what because we have a little thing on that but i'm like perfect transition i'm like how long have we been coming i know i'm like six hours later yeah we can kind of go yeah one of my favorites is um a coen brothers movie called a serious man i've never seen it is so good it's like one of their lesser known ones i would say yes um it's

The main, it's like about a Jewish family in the Midwest, I want to say. And it's so good. It's like a great Coen Brothers movie. We love the Coen Brothers. I was just watching A Brother Where Art Thou. Soundtrack. Soundtrack. Soundtrack of our lives. It was in the Remy newsletter. That's why it was. Love George Clooney. Yeah. We always do. That is a great movie. So yeah, that's one. Coen Brothers is a serious fan. And then, I mean, people always call it Mrs. Maisel, Marvel's Mrs. Maisel, which definitely, like, I watched the first couple seasons. It has its moments. It went downhill. Yeah.

to me a little bit. - Yeah. - They campaign like no other show. - They really do. - They would like take over LA. Do you remember when they do Marvel's Mrs. Maisel like at every store? - Grocery store, there's like grocery bags. - Yes. I was like, you guys are crazy. - They have quite the budget then. - Amazon. - Quite the budget. - Yeah. - But I am happy for Amy Sherman Palladino.

Yeah. Who's that? She's the creator. Oh, great. She's also created Gilmore Girls, which like. Oh, I see now. One of our faves. Yes, we do love. I still have never seen that. I can't believe it. It is childhood. It is teenage years. I think I would love it. It's gorgeous. I think you'd love it too. Mother-daughter relationships. I think I'd love it. Those are like the two that come to mind. What do you guys have? Well, we were going to say, can you guess? Oh, please. Based off of a description. And these are just some movies around Hanukkah or Judaism. Okay. Yeah.

In Clue Chivici. Yeah. So we'll give the movie plot and you have to guess. Oh, God. Okay, ready? Number one. For the last 10 years, lifelong buddies Ethan, Isaac, and Chris have gathered on Christmas Eve to celebrate the holidays with a bang. As Isaac prepares to become a first-time father, the friends realize that their annual tradition is coming to a sad end. To make it as memorable as possible, they plan a night of debauchery and hilarity by searching for the Nutcracker Ball, the holy grail of Christmas parties in New York.

I know I didn't mention Hanukkah once. So it seems like this would be a Christmas movie, but it actually has a lot of Hanukkah stuff in it. I definitely have not seen this. It's with one of your favorite Jews. Seth Rogen. Yes. Sounds like a Seth Rogen movie. I don't know the title, but I can kind of picture...

what the movie is. It is The Night Before. That's right. Is Joseph Gordon-Levitt Jewish? I believe so. Hot man, too. Very hot man. He certainly has a Jewish name and looks Jewish. Yeah, but I love that movie. Okay. Guys, have you not seen it? No. It's a good plane movie, and they always have it on the plane, so watch it on Tuesday. I also think it would be a good, like,

High Times Night. Yes. 100%. Add it to the list. Add it to the list. Great movie. Okay, we'll speed through the couple next ones. Davey Stone, a 33-year-old party animal, finds himself in trouble with the law after his wild days gone too far. In keeping with the holiday spirit, the judge gives Davey one last chance at redemption. Spend the holiday performing community service as the assistant referee for the youth basketball league or go to jail. I have no earthly idea.

It's a crazy night. Oh, this is an Adam Sandler movie. Yes. Okay. Also, I've never seen it.

I haven't either. I haven't either. I mean, he's like a top ten Jew, I would say. He's a good one, yeah. Of course. Billy Madison, great movie. Iconic. Iconique. So this is actually a show. Okay. After her breakup with Harry, Blank keeps going to the synagogue alone where Jewish ladies swarm to match her to their eligible sons, but she dishes neither, wait, what? But she dishes neither till, oh, but she dishes neither till Harry reappears. That was a good one.

That would be Charlotte. Yeah, that would be. What season? Oh, I don't know. Six? I am not good with the season. I think five, right? Five sounds right. Because six is the 6A and 6B, and that season is crazy. That season is wild. It's time for a re-watch. Re-watch. So good in the fall. So good. I watch it all in the spring. So good any time. Oh, yeah, good any time. I watched it all recently in the last year. Yeah. We love it. Yeah. We do. Charlotte is definitely like, she's...

sweetest, obviously. And her whole plot line with Judaism, I think, is really beautiful and interesting. I love that. If you haven't seen it, which, who hasn't? No kidding. It has had some controversy that people... I was starting to read an article. I should have researched it more because I was like, oh, this is interesting. But a lot of people were saying that her storyline was offensive to the Jewish community. Oh. I didn't find it offensive at all. Yeah. I think...

showing a story of conversion is like really beautiful because like we don't talk about conversion a lot and like a lot of people do it. Aaron Foster did it for her husband. Kyle Richards. Oh yeah. To Judaism and to other religions as well but Judaism has a very specific conversion process. You have to have like a certain number of

essentially like counseling sessions with a rabbi. Yeah. You have to do this mikvah thing that they show in Sex and the City where she goes to the baths and you have to immerse yourself. It's very interesting. It's very like...

Yeah. But like cool. Is it true that they turn you away to see if you're serious? I think they do that in like uber traditional conversion ceremonies. There's like a thing that you have to like come back. A little cat and mouth. If you will. If you will. Quite hard to get. Exactly. But I don't know if they still do that every time. It seems like a little intense, right? It does seem pretty intense. It does. But no, I wasn't offended by that. Yeah. By that storyline at all. But now I'm interested. I'll send you the article. Yeah. I just saw a couple. But yeah. But guys,

That is Hanukkah. Happy Hanukkah, everyone. Thank you. It is not until, when does it start? December, I think it's eight days before December 18th. Why does it never say on the Apple calendar? It does. It does? The first day of Hanukkah is December 19th, it says on my calendar. Oh, that's the first day. Oh, I was off. I was off. So like you literally never know when it's going to be. What a fun surprise. That is a fun surprise. I mean, I think they know like years in advance, but like I personally never know.

When it's going to be tough to wait. Like, isn't that crazy? It is crazy. All the holidays just like rotate. It's wait for, it says Hanukkah on the 19th is the first day. That's what she said. Yeah, that's what she said. I said something different. Sorry. They said the 9th. No, no, no, no. I said that. I was just like, God damn it, Apple. Why aren't you doing this? Okay, good. They have Kwanzaa. They have Christmas. Okay. The Apple calendar is very inclusive. Yes. TG. TG. Shout out Apple.

Apple. Shout out to Apple. Sponsored by Apple. Yeah, I wish. Call us. Well, this was so lovely and so informative, Alice. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. I'm like so blessed. Oh, please. It was so fun and, you know. My favorite podcast, my favorite girl. Oh, we love you. We love our girls. I love my girls. Little Dorit, always. Always. Always. Well, is this the last episode before, guys, we're going to take a few weeks off. That's right. It's just Chris, or

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on Instagram. And we are blessed to be there. That's right. That's right, guys. Content, you guys. You wouldn't believe it. You wouldn't. And we're so excited. 2023 has really exciting things already. Yes. We will announce when we have more confirmation of all of it. But we are happy as a clam. That's right. That's right. We love you, Rammies. Happy Hanukkah. Merry Christmas. Happy Kwanzaa. Just happy holidays. Stay safe. Happy winter. Bye. Bye. We forgot a crucial part of each guest episode.

So Alice, if you could smoke a joint with anyone in history, dead or alive, who would it be? He asked this to all of our guests. Yeah. This is so tough and I didn't have a lot of time to prepare. I know. We like to catch people off guard. We do. Shakespeare. Oh.

I blew their minds. It's not what I was expecting. I couldn't think of, I really couldn't think of anyone. Yeah, no, that's good. That would be such a great one. Taylor Swift comes to mind. I wonder what that would be like. It would be crazy. It would be crazy. I am like a former theater nerd. Yeah. And you always are a theater kid at heart if you ever were one in the past. That is true. And I just think like,

The stories you guys could come up with high would be wild. Yeah. It would just be like, how do you do it? Wow. Another one would be like any of the Salem witches who were hanged. Oh, wow. Damn. That's dark. Guys, we have episodes on all of these things that you mentioned. Check it out. Check out our Shakespeare and Salem Witch Draw episode. That's right. Always promoting. Always blogging. Okay. Well, gorgeous. Thank you, Alice. Goodbye, everyone. Night, night.

One day of presents? Hell no! We get the eight! Pretty nice! But if you still feel like the only kid in town without a Christmas tree I guess my first two songs didn't do it for ya So here comes number three! Ross and Phoebe from Friends Say the Hanukkah blessing

So does Lenny's pal Squiggy and Will and Grace's Deborah Messing Melissa Gilbert and Michael Landon never mix meat with dairy

Maybe they should have called that show Little Kosher House on the Prairie. We got Jerry Lewis, Beck Stiller and Jack Black. Tom Arnold converted to Judaism, but you guys can have him back. Just get coming!

we may not get to kiss underneath the mistletoe but we can do it all night long with two speaker low