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Hello and welcome to the Hat Chat podcast episode 163 with your three hosts. Chris Trott is me, me Chris Trott. Oh hi Chris Trott, this is the voice of Ross. And I'm Alex Smith and we're joining you today from Bristol where it's hailing like crazy. We record this podcast on
in the roof of a building that has a roof made of tin yeah and we have a live studio audience and they're really they're always so quiet they find nothing funny and they never clap i don't know why we keep bringing them in why are you watching us it's so dead you may hear both the studio audience moving around and uh the hail uh smashing it's not white noise it's hail yeah so it's easing off right now but it's gonna pick up for sure this
that would be dibs what again thank you very much it's a really cool track actually the whole thing is at the end of this episode yeah you the boss you the boss did I fill that off can I say that kind of thing
Do you ever think that? Like, you say words that are like lexicons of certain subcultures. I think if it comes from you and it's out of the blue because you never said it before, it's disingenuous. But if you keep doing it, it becomes more genuine. I think your mum is mid. That felt real. You're the boss, so you would know. My mother's mid. My mother's mid.
Which is fine. That's quite negative. No, it's not. It is quite negative. It's mid. She's mid. Yeah, but mid is fine. Mid is like... No, mid is a negative. Yeah, I know it is in this context. She could be a smoke show. But she's not. She's mid. Are you glad she's mid? I haven't seen him in years. I don't know. I think mid is fine. If she was fit... Yeah. You'd be batting away all the men with a stick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From your mum. Yeah, for sure. I mean, but like mids... Like...
I mean, mid is... So people say mid is bad. And I know, understanding that context, mid is considered to be... Underachiever. Yeah. So mid is plain. Like, this podcast is mid. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. To some people. Yeah.
Very much could be. But mids, I think... I mean, the way I know mids... Backbone of society, isn't it? It's just middle. The way I know the word mid is from weed. So when... This meat is weird. Sorry to say, this meat is weird. Weed is mid. So mids are actually the middle part of the plant. So remember when we were in... It's a literal middle. In that dispensary tour. LA, yeah. Yeah, he told us that, basically. So there's like different...
at different points of the plant, the buds are smaller or larger. And people in the US especially like really big, frosty, big, good looking nuts. They love it big. So they choose those and those are like the top shelf cuts. And then there are smaller buds within the plant and those are known as mids. And then below that, there are much smaller ones again that are then used for like ground up and used for like pot and press and all that sort of stuff. What are those called?
I can't remember, but like, I think that's actually where it comes from. So I may not use the word mid, but I understand its use, I think. I disagree with its generalized use. Extremely straightforward once you hear someone say it in context, though. It's quite mid.
It's extremely mid. But what other words have you learned? I'm just trying to think. Off the top of my head, I can't. Do you learn these on the street? Yeah, always. I'm just listening in. What are they saying? What are these words? Yeah. And then I realize I'm outside like a foreign language school. What's that new term for that person there has a sweet ass? What, bunda? No. No. No.
Begins with G, I think. Get. Get. Yeah, we said get before to you and that really confused me. Get, damn.
That was really confusing for you. Gat. Oh, I think I fucking... A little kid did say gat, and I thought that was quite funny. I don't think he said it in context. No. Because that kid is extremely confused. Some kids walking past was walking off, and one of them mentioned gat, but they said it in a really strange context that I don't think related to you. Mate, look at that gat pigeon. Something stupid like that. Yo, look at the dump truck on that pigeon. Yeah, something dumb like that. Gat, come over here and get some bread.
You don't have to roadman it. You do though. But I think that's almost become a lexicon of his own. It has. People who've never lived in parts of the country like that speak like that. They've grown up all their life in Somerset and some people speak like that. And I'm like, it is. It's just adopted from media, I guess. The globalization of slang term. It's beyond slang terms though. It's like an actual way of speaking, I guess. Yeah, to that degree.
But it's weird when you had a friend, personal anecdote, I suppose, had a friend who didn't speak like that and then decided to hang out with those people and then did speak like that, which almost seems like maybe some form of appropriation of sorts. It kind of is, isn't it, in a way? Yeah. It's just like, why are you suddenly talking like that now? You've just picked that up somehow. I can understand it. You definitely did not speak like that before. If you want to fit in right, I understand you don't want to be that person that speaks weird. Yeah.
I think all accent and language has appropriation by its nature, right? Because that's the way that accents and language spreads through, like, it spreads through nations, it spreads through places. So yeah, there is going to be appropriation, I think. Well, I guess there's... But...
In certain circumstances, you're just like, that's some high-speed adopting you're doing. People were quite annoyed about that girl from Stranger Things 11. What's her name? I forget her name. But in certain interviews, she would obviously speak in an American accent. I guess if she's speaking to American interviewers, then she'd be very British in others. And people were like, oh my God, she's lost her accent or something. And it's like, oh, right. Everyone always says that. Like Austin Butler's been getting a little shit as well. At a certain age, I don't think it's that easy to lose an accent.
If you're a kid, sure. It's just whatever's around you, isn't it, I guess? I appreciate you might put one on. We do do the Scottish thing when Ravs is around and that's almost just because we're kind of like joining. I don't know why we do that. It feels, probably to him, it's totally different. When you watch it back, it feels wrong to do. It feels like playing. It's good for us, but it's not good for them, is it? No. It's not nice. It feels like we're taking it. It's like Ravs Colsey doing a, well, I wouldn't give a shit if he did
I think we find it hilarious if Raps tried to do him the accent. And putting on to them that they must feel the same way as we do. I don't believe that they must, but he hasn't given me any evidence to the counter. Austin Butler's is weird that he does that. He just did a role as Elvis and now just keeps that accent. Well, I think it's fine. Like, I don't know why people are so hung up on this. I don't know, it's just... Because it's fun to pick apart things that are so much bigger than you. It creates a disingenuous person, isn't it? But if you've become a person for a role...
like christian bale or whatever like some people really immerse themselves in these roles and learn out and haven't like a speech therapist and all that stuff to learn their language
I think it would stick. It's like learning a language. If I came in and started with a scalp action all the time, you'd be like, what are you doing? Yeah. It's all about authenticity. If it was something I could keep up every day. I just had a chicken in the hook. If I kept that up somehow, I don't think I could actually really keep up. I'd like the idea that you would slowly start to develop a resentment towards us because you feel like we're discriminating against you because you're a scalper. That would be funny. That would be like,
Why don't you listen to me? You don't take me seriously when I talk about this. You don't take me seriously. You don't take me seriously. Seriously.
I think if you were cast in a main role for like Trainspotting 3, if you were cast in a main role for Trainspotting 3, we both knew that you're going to be out for six months getting dialect coaching and going to be immersed in the Scouse ways for that long and you came back with that accent. I think it would make sense. I wouldn't belittle you for having that accent. I did a lot more of the northern accent after Game of Thrones. Yeah. Exactly. Just pick it up. Like we just do it. If I just...
because it's fun I was ordering a coffee in that accent do you know what I mean it's just like yeah yeah I think what Ross was trying to say using it in context we use all these accents because they're fun right because they're not our accent not because you are that it's just like fun it's a role playing thing almost and not half the time it is a role playing thing and I don't I'm not targeting any particular actor or person in place I think that all it comes down to is like how much you want to indulge each other
really you know like how much like you want people to be able to be like I'm going to try speaking with a new accent for a year and see how it is and you're like alright you know like how rare is that when you could be like
that's dumb and then they're like why is that and you're like I just feel like it's dumb and like you know as in it's about like or you could just be like alright give it a go and then they do it all year and they go yeah alright yeah that was pretty sweet it's not like I'm just trying a fashion trend oh yeah I'm trying a I don't know but it's not I'm trying a dungarees guys why is it negative I guess like what we're trying to get to here is the crux of it but like that doesn't really happen because it's not the person you know yeah it's not the person you've known for 20 plus years and you're like oh no you've put on Irish accent right
This topic could go in so many ways. It's quite negative. In terms of like, you're not the person I used to know. Yeah, but all of a sudden, suddenly just doing a random accent and then just telling your friends to just accept it. I guess, yeah, it's fine. But if you knew the context of why they're speaking that accent, rather than just like... What's the context? My context would be I wanted to.
Yeah, but that's no reason for it. When does that happen? Yeah, that's true. In reality, if you ever ran into that situation, the person would probably be able to tell you, like, oh, this is why I'm doing it. And then you can make a judgment call on those values, I guess. I think without reason, it's silly. Yeah, without reason. But what if I decide to be Irish and then start kind of like, you know, talking about my ancestors? You're like, whoa, hang on a second. You can't take the whole...
I find that fucking hilarious and I would laugh at you every day like because because of that because the context is it's you and you're pretending to be Irish and I know you don't have Irish ancestors and beyond it being a serious mental health crisis I would be like is this a funny thing you know like
Well, you know those people who wake up speaking different languages or like accents. There was some woman who literally woke up with a Scouse accent and said, I don't know where Falken came from. Suddenly got an accent. Is that like a brain injury? Yeah, something like that. There's a name for it. I'm not sure what the name is for it, but it's legit because it's like, I mean, your friend would try and catch you out every step of the way like,
Are you still talking? I feel like you just... That word was definitely... No, okay. I feel like you just used this opportunity to become scouse. It was the one who could speak fluent Chinese. Wasn't there someone who could speak fluent Chinese who was like British and came out of nowhere? That'd be a hilarious prank to play. I think a lot of those situations are hoaxes. That'd be a great prank to play because suddenly, oh, fuck, he's learnt Mandarin. Because newspapers love those articles. Foreign account syndrome, apparently. Accent syndrome. Foreign accent syndrome. I reckon there must be at least...
in their lexicon of their brain they must have been surrounded by that accent totally because you can dream an accent you can't produce yourself right like so speak it in my head but yeah exactly exactly so so the ability to yeah it's just about whether or not you can tell your vocal cords and mouth to verbalize the sounds that you hear in your mind
So I can believe that happens. Somebody was talking about moving from America to the UK. I imagine the things that would mainly change are literally pronunciations of specific words. Where, like, I don't know, what's an Americanism? What of a word that we say differently to Americans? Parking lot and car park? What about rocket and arugula? Arugula, yeah. Arugula is, yeah. They've called that here.
Aubergine. Aubergine. An Americanism for like what? Trousers, pants. Yeah, trousers and pants. Would they start calling it water?
it depends we say water i want to water it depends where you are in the uk because it's so regional water water water um i was watching a thing about um oh fuck uh there's the british operation to train ukrainian soldiers and they have a bunch of ukrainian translators who've come over to help
So the people that are teaching the Ukrainians are Scottish. And so the Ukrainian translator was telling them about how they had to learn what a word was with a Scottish accent. And she was like, you know, they say like, Baal.
And she's like, I don't know whether he's saying bottle, battle, ball. Or pal. Yeah, or pal. And she's like, yeah, he's basically compressed the word battle into anything that could be. Yeah, yeah, or pal. And she's just like, yeah, we just have to guess on the context. And I'm like, that's hilarious. Scottish is a very thick accent. It's a fantastic accent. Well, it depends on where you're from, right? If you're more southern...
In Scotland, it's not as strong, yeah. But, yeah. Yeah.
Anyway, I don't know why we went onto that tangent. Yeah. If I had a traumatic head injury... Okay, right. If you had a traumatic head injury, you'd be a far more interesting person. What are you going to say? But there's a reason for that. Well, I woke up with, like, a really strong... Erection. ...Jamaican accent. Oh. Well, that's... Yeah. I really still have not made... I should, like, read about this or some shit because I've made so little progress with my opinion on doing accents. Like, for me, it's still probably around the, like...
On the whole, just doing an accent is funny. Oh, okay. Well, do an Indian accent for us, then. I can't. It comes out Welsh. Do a Chinese accent for us. I mean, it does feel bad to do, doesn't it? I mean, yeah, fair enough. All right, what European accents I'm happy doing? Yeah, well, there you go. Okay, that's fine. Is that all right? Well, yeah. Okay. Can't offend other white people, right? Well, I mean, it's more just, I guess I feel more comfortable offending...
them because I understand the context better. Yeah, I think so. It's more the education. It depends if you start bringing stereotypes and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Because I think most accents are... Oh, no, I still have stereotypes of... Because, like, you know, the French, the Germans, the Spanish, we all do that of each other. You know, like, there's plenty of English stereotypes, let's be honest. I think if you're willing to take the beating, it's okay to give it. Yeah, exactly. But at the same time, you don't understand certain...
that don't understand that kind of level of humour. And maybe ease into it. Don't weigh in with a Hitler joke. When we did the one hour film challenge, you put that French accent on. Were you also impersonating the guy from The King? Because there was a part in that, I watched that clip the other day. Oh yeah. And he was really like...
Were you like doughy-eyed and kind of like, oh, who is he? What's his name? Yeah, the guy from Twilight. I can't remember his name now. Robert Pattinson. Pattinson, yeah, that one. He plays a very foppish king. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In Agincourt by Alfred. And he's like offering to have a one-on-one fight. He's like, oh, and did this murder on the run? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I love it. No, the reason I was doing that is because I did a lot a few months ago. Because I was supposed to do something. I didn't catch it. No? No.
You were meant to do a line. You were meant to do a line, so I just kept on going until you said something. No, I did that foppish French character at a LARP. Oh, okay. Just basically just... Had a whale of a time. Practised it. It's very hello, hello, isn't it? Yeah. That is a stereotype. Yeah, that is a stereotype, but a funny one. The French can take it, can't they? I hope so. Bloody hope so. But I have this traumatic head injury. Yeah. Like, really dramatic. Yeah. Thoughts? Well, I think...
As long as you preface it with that, I think you're fine, aren't you? What can you say otherwise? Well, I can't help it because I literally had... Obviously, it would be like, well, can you help it? I can't do it. So I was going to do an accent. The only word I can say is beer can. Beer can. Because it's beer can. Yeah. I mean, you're going to make yourself look like an idiot. That's the main thing, isn't it? I think that's the main thing. My brain is limited to how much Jamaican it can do authentically. I don't know if he maybe is Jamaican.
There was a dude who was like Sean Paul Supposedly controversial I can't remember what it was He was trending for a bit Oh I think I know who you're talking about He was a rapper or something No Well maybe you're not talking about this But it was fucking Tom Hanks' youngest son Chet Hanks Yeah he was doing that for a bit Yeah yeah yeah Talking like that Chet Hanks Holy shit And he was trying to explain to people like It's not appropriation Like I hung out with a bunch of people That taught like this for ages And I loved it I actually kind of liked his explanation He's a lunatic But
- In other aspects, yeah. - 'Cause that's who the people he was surrounding himself with spoke about. - Yeah, yeah, and he's like, "I really like it." Because I think that is something that's great about accents. And going back to what we were talking about earlier about road men. It is interesting. The words and in all accents and cultures and stuff, hearing different ways to say the same thing is very interesting.
It gives you a lot of context. So, yeah. But I think that's kind of what he was saying. He hung out with these people. He really liked the way they talked. And he kind of wanted to do it too. And, I mean, I think that's a fairly nice thing to say, really. But, yeah. Other stuff he's done, not huge. Get me a Chet Hanks T-shirt. He's going to look similar to the guy that I've seen. But I think the guy that I've seen is definitely Jamaican.
And he just goes up to people and just like says stuff in real like localized slang Jamaican about like, my wife's left me. What would you do? And everyone's always very talkative. So I'd wake up like that basically. Oh, right. Because there was a clip on, I think it was a clip from like Big Brothers because there was a celebrity one not long ago. And this dude was like, can I say, am I allowed to say like bomba cluck? And they were like, no, no, don't say that. And then there was this whole debate about it. It's a religious connotation, bomba cluck, isn't it? I don't know.
Basically, I've been saying it all my life. A lot of people, when it comes to misappropriation or that kind of stuff, you'll often find the people that really come down on you for doing such aren't even from that culture to begin with. Oh, right, yeah. It's people on behalf of other people. There's no name for that. Yeah, there is. I can't remember what it's called.
like Justice Warriors Munchenhausen by proxy but essentially if you've been around that culture and that culture those people are like it's kind of great that you're sharing this culture I don't think there's anything wrong with that no until you profit from it profit separate from morals we know that yeah because everyone was pissed off with Post Malone with his first single
Beyonce's doing country music now because he did the whole dreads and stuff oh she yeah it's because she got lombasted by the country because she did a country song a few years ago apparently and then she's like I'm going to show all you guys I'm going to do a whole album in country but the whole album is I think so well apparently I mean
Does seem city. Yeah. Shit, isn't it? It's quite petty. It's quite petty. I love some country music. I think she's doing it out of spite, though. It just seems a bit weird. It's like saying, like, hey, you know what? Elton John's getting into, like, I don't know, what, like, house. I mean, that could be quite good. Elton John's quite an eclectic guy. Yeah, I can kind of see that. But then Beyonce is, you know, equally one of the world's most popular musicians. Yeah.
I don't know. I just, sure. Good luck, I guess. Just seems a bit odd. I prefer her to do like death metal. Yeah. Start some vocal fry. See, that again would be like, what? Like, I'd be the same kind of like, all right. I think that'd be dope as hell. Like her power ballady voice on top of some chugging guitars would be pretty dope. Maybe consider that for your next one, Beyonce. I think you'd really suck at metal and you'd shame the metal community.
That's what will get her to do it. Oh, I see. He's reverse psychology. Yeah, yeah. God, that's crazy. The entire metal industry hates you even considering the notion. This podcast is a psy-op. This whole podcast has been a psy-op to try and get Beyonce to make metal music. It's been 163 episodes and we've certainly laced it. Deploy the plan. You look at every word at the start of the podcast, it actually spells out
The whole paragraph. Beyonce is too chicken to do metal. Yeah. Oh, last time, didn't we, we'd seen Dune. Did you see Dune last time? Oh, I've seen Dune now. Oh, you've seen Dune now? Yeah. We've all seen Dune 2. Dune 2. Dune 2. Do we need to put a spoiler warning up for you? What were your thoughts? No spoilers. No spoilers. We won't spoil anything. Spoiler free. But you watched it now, so you can actually, because obviously I was like quite, I bigged it up in a big way, but you might not feel that way. Did you, did he overhype it for you? Did I overhype it for you? Did you feel like it was? No, not at all. Meh.
No, I don't think you overhyped it. I'm surprised you expressed such extreme love of it. But that's maybe more a reflection on you than on the film. Not in a negative way. Just like, you know, I think it was a fantastic film. Yeah, I loved it. I mean, it's just so unbelievably up my street that it could have been pretty bad and I still would have enjoyed it. A lot of people seem to struggle with the fact that the first film is quite boring.
Because it's slow. It's slower. Very slow. But the contrast between this film, which I don't think is boring at all in any way, a lot goes on. And then I decided to watch the original, and that's, well, I say the original, like the one from 1984, which is awful. But the second, in terms of narrative, the second film doesn't even appear until the second, well,
the last third of it. Really? So that was all compressed. Condensed into a tiny bit. The worm rolling's immense on the old one. Yeah, the new one is... Whaling heavy metal guitars. I mean, to make some jokes about it,
I mean, those fucking worms are like Deliveroo in the second film. Yeah, I know. They're just like... You want to get a worm? Yeah. Should we get a worm? Get a stumper out. Without spoiling it. Get the hooks. Get the worms out. Without spoiling it, the danger of them has definitely faded. Yeah. They got full control over those things. But yeah, that's... Yeah. But I guess that's because he's one with the Fremen. Yeah. Do you like the, you know, the poison? Yeah.
Do you like the poison? What do you mean by that? Troy's currently raising his eyebrows up and down. You were talking about it beforehand, having understood the source material. Oh, and understand the waters of life. Yeah, and how it's portrayed in Dune 2. Did I like how it was done? Yeah. Yeah. I think the film must be insanely confusing for people who don't bother to try and read the back of it, because stuff like the fucking...
It's not very well explained, is it? There's so many bits that aren't well explained, but well executed in the film if you understand the context. And I'm not saying you have to read the books before you go in. I haven't read the books. But apparently the books throw you the deep end straight away as well. They do. It gives you it without any context. You've got to go through the back, which is the references. Well, yeah, that maybe is...
But yeah, the whole pre-life thing of the baby. The whole talking thing is weird. Yeah, that is not explained in the films. But if you read about it, it makes a lot more sense. The scenes make more sense. I think the mum is a great actress as well. She's really good. She plays that.
that role very well going from like, Oh yeah. Worried mother. It's like this kind of, and also, uh, Ben and Jez are it. Yeah. Evil into cult Rebecca Ferguson. Yeah. Yeah. She's really good. Yeah. I think she is. Um, yeah, no, I loved it. I mean, I just, it's awesome. Uh, the scenes, like just the way the film looks, I tell you what, I was quite disappointed with the cinema, uh,
The sound was too quiet. No iMacs. I wanted to go out and tell them to turn it up. But I didn't want to miss the film. Oh, really? Oh, wow. Was it a showcase in Aven Meads? Yeah, it was Aven Meads. The whole thing was fine. The screen was fine. The seats were great. Screen number. 14. No, 7 and 14 are their two biggest screens. I chose it specifically for that. But they've got USB speakers in those ones. What? Yeah, they had to...
compromised with the screen and they could only fit this is not true bluetooth speakers you're wasting my time christopher i feel like you're working for them sometimes you really do big that place up just saying but something i love about june is the sound design it's incredible and it was too quiet uh but no the film itself amazing obviously i think that's a good point about the sound because like well i watched it in imax it was loud but it
It wasn't Inception loud where you couldn't hear their voices. It was just well-balanced. So whoever they worked with on that... Should work with Nolan. ...needs to fucking speak to Nolan in terms of stopping the fucking cut. Honestly, like, I love his films and I think, you know, he's a talented filmmaker, but, like, his opinion on, like...
You have to see it in a cinema. It has to be amazing. Even in a cinema, you can't hear their fucking voices. Let it be enjoyable for people still. He might have ear damage that he's not aware of. Well, that's fucking shit then, isn't it? That would be so shit. He'd have super sensitive hearing. I mean, certain frequencies are like...
gone he's got ear damage so he wants to be barely able to hear them speak well this sounds really shit to me but only Nolan thinks it's great the white noise of like the medium range frequencies that like a rocket blasting off that cover the voice versus the higher frequencies of voices he can't hear any of those middle frequencies yeah he's like can you turn the rockets up a bit more
Yeah, possibly. Because I feel like I couldn't even watch it at home. I tried watching it in Stella, that was it. And I was just turning it up and down because it was quite late. I was like, fuck. Why do TVs, right, if you're just using the TV speakers and streaming services, still not understand what speaker output you have? And why does it always do like...
really loud music and quiet speech. Like, why is that still a thing? I would also say that TV needs a sound system. Yeah, it does. Those speakers are not... But it's stupid. TV speakers are not the one. I feel like the bare minimum should be like, this is a TV at home, not a 7.1 surround system. Here's the relevant audio for that stereo setup. Not the 7.1 with only a couple of channels available. Well, I don't know whether this is a setting that could be changed in your television.
Believe me, I've been through them all. Yeah. So what? So if it's a 5.1 source, it'll just... It'll synthesize 5.1 through your stereo speakers? It just doesn't balance the 7.1. So like the center speaker is meant to be for vocals, right? Yeah. Instead, I'm getting like the fucking music and the speech at two different levels of volume. Mm-hmm.
because there's not enough speakers for the speech, basically. Sound systems are expensive, though. I looked into getting just a 5.1 soundbar and sub setup, and they're like 500 quid minimum, for one worth getting. You can get ones for 200 quid, but they're not worth getting, because they're still stereo, they're 3.1, so it won't do much for you either. Yeah, the Samsung one must have been close to 600, 700 quid. Yeah, yeah. It's just for strength that you have to indulge in that. It's really good.
get the normal audio yeah no you're right yeah but i think it's the battle between how thin the tv is now that's the issue it's because tvs are so thin they can't put decent like quality speakers in it they do enough the speaker quality is fine it's just the balance of the mix is wrong because it thinks the tv's 7.1 yeah that's what needs to change tell you what i've been doing recently and i fucking love it when i really want to when it's just me watching you can do it with up to two people when it's just me watching
airpods just headphones they but they tether to my apple tv yeah that's and i can just press a button and i can watch it all with the full like rendered audio in it and you can get loud as well yeah um but that's only for like when i want to spot watch specific things where the sound is really really key because obviously seeing the subwoofer and use my sofa it's fucking great yeah feel the vibrations the decent films it's great what's the thumping like from doom one it's heavy
I feel for my neighbours. You can see why the words come out. I don't know why. It's like a blast that fucker. Solid concrete floors. There's no one above. No, as in like, that's why. So it's firing up? Is that an up-firer? It's sat on the floor. I presume it's firing straight into your asshole. Is it also firing into the roof of the...
tenant below you well yeah I imagine so yeah there are rubber stoppers below and that stops anything that's not doing anything a bit of rubber will sort you out yeah that's what we really should put carpet on we've got a train coming through here but don't worry we've put rubber under the rails it'll be fine sounds like this
Sci-fi movie is always on in that fucking flat upstairs. Our live studio audience is telling me that soundbars will fix all my issues. Soundbars sort it out. Yeah, even if you've got a soundbar without the side speakers and a sub, a soundbar will sound way better. But it defaults to 5 or 7.1, whichever your set is. And get the Dolby Atmos. Yeah, you want Dolby Atmos. This is the problem. To get Dolby Atmos, you need to spend at minimum like...
Probably minimum 350, but I would spend 500. What's wrong with it? And then I just didn't buy one. Because I'll tell you what, if my TV ever defaults to the TV sound, I feel pissed off.
Because I don't have that good... Because I've got it there. If that's not on... It's not enjoyable. If you've got speakers behind you as well. Yeah, well, either side of the sofa, there's speakers pointing towards you, and then obviously you've got the sub, and then you've got the soundbar and the TV, and it's just like epics. Next year, maybe. Next year. But it's just like, it's worth it. Well, you're never going to Ava Meats again. I'm glad it's worth it. Then what are they going to do? See, I wouldn't go to Ava Meats. If I could have got Dune 2...
I watched it on my nice TV with a good sound system. I don't have a good sound system. I've got TV speakers because, like I say, when I really care, I'll put my headphones in. But it's not... I'd rather have a sound bar, but they cost loads of money. Well, what about the cool Dune cups that you'd only get at the cinema? We didn't get Dune cups. Did you get Dune cup? Yeah, I got Dune cup. Did you? I didn't get a fucking Dune cup. The one with the fucking, like... Not the worm one. The talkable one.
Is it a possible worm toy? You can get a worm. It's got a little tent. Yeah. I mean, it's fun. That's very fun. Don't get me wrong. You wouldn't get that at home, would you? No. But you'd probably use a few popcorn just trying to get it out because it's grabbing them.
Yeah, with his little teeth. What are they called? I want to make loads of Dune-related jokes, but I can never remember all the fucking names. Remember one name. Paul. His fucking, the main character's name. Yeah, the name Atreides, but then it's just Paul. I still find that really annoying. People are like, yeah, but that's his name. Would you prefer Gary? It's a biblical name. Yeah, Gary would be better. Gary would be better, wouldn't it? Speaking of... You know, obviously we were talking about a subject with which we know a huge amount about, appropriation. Oh,
And that we can both, you know, enlighten people with our informed conversation on the matter and also not piss anyone off with our sweeping takes. It's just a beautiful line that we walk along. We're really good at talking about this. Daintily walk along. Did you feel the religion stuff in Dune 2 was a little on the nose when it came to Islam? Oh, good question.
Oh, thinking about it, yeah. Did all of the Fremen seem like they were every trope of religious Islamists? I don't know. Do you?
Do you not see that? I see the parallel now that you've raised it. How are you not? It's like they're clearly meant to be, especially when they go south to meet the fundamentalists. Yeah, right. That's a really good point. Like every single element of it. That's new, though. I didn't even think. That's not in the books. The whole separation of the north and south Fremen. That's not in the books. That's not in the books. Right. Okay. Apparently. So yeah, this whole fundamentalist thing.
southern area where you know but I get all of that and I get you know people are saying like Spice is a like an analogy for oil in the desert I completely understand all these things but what I'm saying is in the way that it was presented in the film the way they they had an opportunity to not make it
with different words, you know, but it kind of seemed a lot like that. You know, the way people congregated, the things people wore, the kind of language. Like, I know that they're using words from the book. I'm not going like, that film's racist. I'm just like saying, like, for me, I was watching this, I'm just like, Jesus, like they're leaning into this hard. Like if they'd led into like Knights Templar shit, you know, you'd recognize that as well. You know, like God wills it and like big fucking tabards with crossbows
crosses on and and apparently mal hadib yeah allegedly this may not be true in arabic literally means tormentor right interesting but i mean but like the fact that they're taken from arabic but like his name frank who wrote the books was it not the same guy that did sin city no no no not frank miller no the only frank that exists frank
Frank Herbert Frank Herbert so yeah no he didn't really think about it maybe I don't know enough about he's also heavily homophobic is he? Frank yeah and also like the women portrayed in the original Doom books very like marginalised not marginalised but patriarchal dominated funky headgear though
Funky headgear, though. Good point. Again, I'm seeing the parallel. Crystal Walken's daughter, or his granddaughter. Huh? Cool headgear. Crystal Walken's granddaughter. Oh, what's her name? Oh, she did have cool headgear. The future empress. Yeah. With the funky kind of like diamond veil thing. That's probably really annoying to wear, but like, it looked pretty cool. It fit so well. Yeah, well, it was obviously custom made. No way. They didn't get that off of Smithies. They wouldn't have found that on... Smithies. Smithies. Smithies costumes, yeah. Smithies.
So everybody's Smithy's costumes Yeah we need something Like very jewelled up Specifically fitting her head And entire body
What did you think of the Harkonnen gladiatorial scene? That was really cool. Cool. That was really good. All under the black sun. Very cool. Yeah, Austin Butler looks menacing in that scene. Yeah. Yeah, no. I can't spoil too much. He thickened his brow up. Yeah, it's great. There's so many great things to it. It feels like a really nice snapshot, a look into a world, doesn't it? It's like, I think like, you know there was that film with Kevin,
Jupiter Ascending is it called? Channing Tatum. Channing Tatum. Mila Kunis. Mila Kunis, that's it. Wachowski's film. Yeah, like films like that come along, like sci-fi films or series or things that could be potential franchises or rather just good versions of books is usually what it is. There's loads and loads of amazing sci-fi books. Every so often people try and take a swing at making films out of them.
and you can tell when a world doesn't seem legitimate doesn't seem and I think films like that Jupiter Ascending or whatever it was called an example of that where they've tried to make the world seem real but something about how they've either displayed it shown or told the story makes it feel like you're just looking at yeah what's it called when you only render what you're looking at oh in a game shit but anyway that feeling that's what I feel like huh
I saw something on simulation theory that said that that's how some people, that could be how we perceive. Foveated. Is it? Is it foveative rending? Yeah. That's just about focus, isn't it? That's about high definition. Yeah. Anyway, you get what I'm saying. And I feel like when a world a lot of the time feels like that, it doesn't grab me. Ambient occlusion. It doesn't grab me. Ambient occlusion is when things reflect light in space properly. No, it's ambient occlusion.
Anyway, you know the point I'm trying to make. Yeah, yeah, but I really want to know the term that you carry on. But yeah, like... I mean, culling. I think Dune is a place that feels as though it's real. The films make that world feel like, oh, let's go and look at that planet. Let's go and see what's going on here. What we're looking at is just a snapshot of a wider world. Yeah, yeah. But it feels real enough. If they put the camera anywhere else, stuff exists. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Really, really cool. Yeah.
You should watch Scavenger's Reign. Yeah? Yeah, you've really been raving about that. I can't... Yeah, no, it's really cool. It's just a very interesting animated series. Is it about rat people? So, as well, they land on this planet. I think they were supposed to be studying this planet, but then there's complications, and they're humans, but this world is just, like, everything's living. Entirely. Oh, everything's living. The plants are, like, really, like, freaky, and kind of, like, it's very got, like, almost Alice in Wonderland kind of, like...
levels to it but it's very interesting and a very good watch scavenger's reign just like it reminded me of like is it rain fall from the sky or rain like a rain rain yeah R-E-I-G-A-N yeah so that's I would recommend that one okay because that's really interesting is it a series or a movie it's a series I think how many episodes which paid streaming service do you watch on it'll be HBO um
Max, I think. How are you getting that in England? VPNs. Weird. It's probably on Now TV. VPNs and a prepaid credit card. I don't know, actually. Let's see. Yeah, you can watch it in glorious 144p on Now TV for only £55 a month. I actually cancelled my Now TV because I just don't watch anything on it. But then this came up, apparently. Then obviously I bought it again to watch it. I think I told you this. It's not HBO. Do you know what's the least subscribed or least watched streaming service?
What's that? Look at the percentage in this. Is it paramount? We talked about Rotten Tomatoes. The Tomatometer for this, for Scavenger's Reign. So it's a kid's show. Well, let's just read the Tomatometer. Don't call it that. Read the Tomatometer, Trot. What does it say?
It says 100%. 100%. That's fucking crazy. But that's the critics. What's the audience? Let's ask the audience then. Let's ask the audience. What does the audience say? 94%. That's fucking huge. That's pretty high. It means you have to watch it. Ross, if I spelt a word, T-O-M-A-T, how would you pronounce that word? To mate. If I spelt a word, T-O-M-A-T-O-M-A-T,
Tomatometer. Tomatometer. You're saying tomatometer, but you're pronouncing the A and O. You shouldn't be doing that. Tomatometer. Tomatometer. All right, let's raise it up a bit. Tomatometer. Okay. It's still tomatometer. It's not. It's what you say tom-o-tometer. Tomatometer. It becomes easier to say tomatometer. Everyone needs to say tomatometer. No, you don't. Everyone needs to say it.
if you don't say it you're wrong he's dying on that hill but Scavenger's Reign definitely worth watching it's just visually is it good animation yeah it reminds me of like Spirited Away oh cool I don't know if it's the same it's not the same studio but it's like fluid
Yeah, there's just elements of it which are just like, it's annoying because some of the character designs are quite simplified. But the backgrounds and stuff look fucking crazy good. And like some of the animation style is really interesting. So it's not new ground. It's like telekinetic, like creature, which is like really cool. And like, yeah, it's really interesting. So if you have a chance to watch that, I would recommend it. But it's a kid's show because it's animation. Well, it's fucking cartoon. So obviously, you know, if you're 12 or under, it's great for you. Pop the kids down in front of it. Are there any suck job worms in it?
Oh, well, there are some weird fucking, there are some weird things. There are such a bum. There's a scene where there's like kind of little bug gets pulled out of the soil. This little kind of plant suctions its head and then like pulls it out and then it kind of like plants a seed and then it just shrivels up and dies. It's just like this whole process. What's the rating? Oh, I don't know. Has he got sex scenes? No, it's not like, I'm sorry.
There's no plant suck job like Smith said. But it's visually fucking cool. I just want a worm suck job, not a plant suck job. If you ever wanted to just enjoy psychedelics whilst watching something, this would probably be quite a cool thing to watch because it is trippy. I'll go to America and get Max, the subscription. Yeah. Or you can just download it. What? Download it. That's not possible. It's got to be available somewhere in the UK. Surely. Scavengers Reign. Probably on Sky Atlantic.
yeah scavenger which is right let's find out for where to watch stream all right how to watch it online um on max okay so is that that must be in the uk that's a vpn that's telling you how to use using a vpn that's a youtube video so it's not available in the uk then no well if i can see it guess what you can suck a big one because i've watched it you should watch it cool all right well scavengers reign and also dune 2 if you haven't seen it it does have sex scenes
Oh, does it? Apparently. Were you too high as a kite on psychedelics? I'm only halfway through. No, I didn't. You're only halfway through. It's just a trippy. You don't need psychedelics. I'm just saying you could if you wanted to. If you wanted to enhance things, enhance yourself. That would make Doom 1 more interesting. Yeah. High on ayahuasca.
Yeah, you can make anything interesting, I suppose. Exactly. You can make any... Well, you probably couldn't make the next Avatar that interesting. God damn. I tried watching that on Netflix. I gave it 20 minutes and I was like, this isn't for me. I gave it the same amount of time. It's just not for me. But you've watched X-Men 97 recently. It's just a little tangent on current media. Yeah. I fucking love it. What do you think of the... It started off as like... Because you've got nostalgia for it as well, so... I've got nostalgia for it, obviously. Big old nostalgia boner for it. But also...
The intro is amazing, but it's not the same. If I'm going to be critical about it, they've taken the original theme song and remade it, which I think is a legal thing, licensee thing. Oh, right. I've got the same instruments, which kind of pissed me off a little bit. But I'll allow it. I'll allow it. However, fantastic carry on of the original series. And I didn't realize how layered and complex. Shit, he's boiling over.
It's fantastic. And then if you were to check the... Tomatometer. Yep. 98%. 98%. And then 94% for audience. That's fucking... That's good. I might watch it. You should. I was never... The thing is, what's getting you really hot for it is the nostalgia. I never watched it before. I don't think you need to. So if I watch this...
what am I getting out of it as in like am I getting a fresh story from the beginning or is it like hey what happened in 97 we're going to continue there's a recap news thing at the start of like the current events of the world which you could watch the whole original series leading up to it sure but you get the gist okay
I haven't seen it since I was a kid. That's fair. I've caught up on it. It's very obvious. It's very superhero-y, though. They all speak with speeches and, like, you know, I am the elements of Storm and I summon lightning! I did like that, yeah. When Storm comes in. Storm is so, like... Yeah. Primordial. Yeah. No, very cool. Classy. I finished three Bonnie Palmer and I didn't like it. You didn't like it.
I just thought it was a bit meh. I just didn't really care too much for it at the end. I was like, oh, I don't really want to watch the next series now. So I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. Some people liked it. Apparently reading the books is probably a better experience, I'd imagine so. Is this the Ross-o-meter? This is the personal Ross-o-meter. What would you give that percentage then? I watched it through, so 60% around that mark. When is it rotten? Is it below 50? What about Dune 2 then?
Oh, Dune 2, I would go with like 98. And Scavenger's Reign? Yeah, I haven't finished it yet, but it's definitely high 80s, I reckon. Do you reckon it would go up? Maybe. Apparently there's 16, so... It's going up! It's going up! Yeah, obviously. They blew their budget on this scene. I need to watch it, but Shogun as well, that's got high audience scores on here as well. I mean, obviously, I have my opinions on ratings.
Oh, well, these ratings are quite high, though. They're insanely high. They're insanely high. Well, what's this rating? It doesn't leave enough nuance. Well, what does that word say? 99% on the Tomatometer. Thank you. What would you give it as a Smithometer, though? I'd give it a 9 out of 10. I would give it a very strong rating. But I think...
One percentage, 90%. Oh, good. On the dot, okay. Fair enough. I might tip it over 90% because I do love it. It's fantastic. It's so enjoyable. Is the last 10% personal reasons? Or do you reckon it's like a thing that everyone can understand? No, yeah, I think the last 10% should be reserved for a person's personal reason. Personal taste. I think...
Yeah, no, it's great. I guess with things like Shogun, I find certain things easier to be critical of because there's so much comparison for them. Something like Shogun doesn't come along that often. So I don't really want to give it too much of a critique, I suppose. For me, Masters of the Air...
I felt was quite a big disappointment and I feel like people oh yeah I feel like people are far too like um they want to be positive about it which is great because a lot of people don't like negative it's the band of brothers yeah yeah the third band of brothers thing um
So I only watched a couple, but... People don't like talking negatively about things because it makes them feel bad. A lot of people, I find. So I understand that some people don't like to be negative about things, but I quite enjoy picking apart things. Do you think it's also based on people don't like to...
backtrack on their own hype yeah totally totally I think I encounter this really really often people dig in and stick to their own opinion because they feel like it's a personal attack on their own ability to judge it's like anti-vaxxers trying to find you know whenever somebody dies they're like oh what was it though was it the vaccine am I finally proven right
So my main problems with Masters of the Air in comparison to Band of Brothers, it doesn't even come close to Band of Brothers in multiple ways. I won't bother going into that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it didn't...
didn't scratch the same itch, I don't think. All of the first three episodes of Masters of the Air were basically a waste. They showed three basically identical episodes of them going up and fighting air battles. I think this was to establish just how ridiculously brutal, over 50% casualty rate for these people in real life this happened. Half of them didn't come back. That's absurd. And they tried to drive that home.
I have with the show in general where it fixates on the two leads like all the fucking time like they're in some sort of like you know top man shoot like they had loads of cool clothes the costume is amazing in the show and of the era the
the clothes they wore were really cool. You know, all these bombers, they didn't have insulation in the bombers, so they all wore these amazing big flight jackets that we probably all know and recognize. So they have a lot of really cool costume, but it's very... The show is very fixated on basically showing two good-looking guys in that costume. Like, every, like, episode's, like, them in a different costume. And it just...
The CGI is garbage as well. Oh, I noticed that, yeah. I cannot believe how bad the CGI is. And I don't know why people don't notice it. I don't understand what's going on with... There's several things I've watched recently. Like The Gentleman in the beginning. Oh my God, I watched that. Did you watch it? Do you see the tracking? The fucking tracking. It's awful. The tracking alone, that's one of the most basic things you can do is track an object, right? The main title of the film is about to track with this mansion and it's just like juddering around. It's like they keyframed it manually. That's the type of thing you would be able to do like 20 years ago. Yeah, yeah.
comfortably. It's like, how are they, you could give to like a fucking intern to do for a day. Yeah. Yeah. And they were like, yeah, it's fine. It's tracked perfectly. Yeah. I don't know what went wrong. Cause I remember telling you that you could have done that so much better and easier. It's just like, I don't understand how they would saw that. And we're like, yeah, that's fine. Yeah.
It's not even like... That's weird. It's not bad enough to then be like a stylistic choice. Yeah, because it's not like a big deal. Did you also see the bits where they had writing when she went to it? And that's just really unimaginative and also just very 2D and bland. That felt very BBC TV series, like low-budget VFX team doing a thing. There was no style to it or flair. It was literally just text on a screen explaining this quite mundane thing really as well.
yeah but we established it wasn't actually directed by george no he was just an example so it was someone who's clearly just happy to say yes to what that was uh but i got a relatively high score like 86 audience score so people seem to enjoy the content of enough but i actually stopped watching couldn't get past the title after that and jesus christ i also did watch this um fucking quiet on set documentary thing which was about like have you did you ever watch drake and josh
I never really watched. I think it was just past the point where I was at school and stuff. Apparently it's a good documentary. Well, it's not good. The content of it is horrible. Well, it's an expose, isn't it? Basically just a bunch of fucking perverts in Nickelodeon. Oh, it's Nickelodeon. Yeah, it's Nickelodeon. With the whole feet fetish thing. Yeah, and all these clips of Ariana Grande fucking squirting water all over her face and stuff. It's just like...
These were perverts in charge here. Just making kids do what they wanted. And then like, yeah. Fucking tragic. And what's worse is the guy who did all Drake also, sorry for the terms, makes it seem trippy. It does, yeah. Drake? Well, the guy who played Drake. Was it Drake? Not the musician. No, no, Josh and Drake. Drake and Josh? Am I saying that correctly? Yeah. I don't know them though either. Well, either way, the guy who played Drake. Drake Bell. Drake Bell, yeah.
What was the point? Yeah, so the guy who diddled him got fired, but then moved to Disney and they didn't, he just got another job at Disney, working with kids again. Got a nice parallel job, moved over. That's insane. Hollywood is fucking filled with pedophiles.
It's terrifying. I think positions of power in general, like 50-50, seems to attract people who are wrong, who are evil. Or not necessarily evil, but just doing it for the wrong reasons. Yeah. They get in that position of power and exploit it horribly. But then, yeah, subsequently, loads of people have also come out about various producers. I think lots of good things, lots of exposés are coming out now, like with P. Diddy. Hmm.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a fucking pedo. I think this is what we can take. Wait, this dude really seems to enjoy working with these young children actors and gets them to do weird things. Well, but he's a bit of a pedo. Yeah, yeah, he is. He's a bit of a pedo. Yeah, yeah, he's a bit of a pedo. Very good kink. Maybe we should go back to just, I don't know, letting like straight women...
direct and produce this stuff or something. You know, I know that's a kind of basic view of things, but like, how else can you avoid this kind of shit keep happening? There definitely needs to be more checks and balances in these things, isn't there? Because that's clearly some positions of power. People below them are worried about losing their jobs. Yeah. And then they're just
Weird, geeky, manipulative men want to get off. They create a situation where nobody can... It keeps fucking happening. It's so horrible. Like, there's just so many fucking weird men. Just, I don't know, just get the fucking fires burning, I guess. A few of them were going to chuck in after the torpedoes, but a lot of them aren't. It would have been at a time where, like, also... Sorry, I'm widening it.
But we're going to get a few dolphins. We'll get them. Because I guess smartphones weren't really a thing early 2000s, really. Not widespread. The news didn't get out. It wasn't necessarily something that would be spread on social media as quickly as something today. So I'd like to think that today, if something like that was happening, it would probably get nipped in the bud pretty quickly. It's just horrible that it's children. Because children are so easily manipulated and exploited.
Well, yeah, and obviously in context of reading a script... Arguably they shouldn't work before they're an adult. Well, that's it. I'm not sure which case it was. Somebody got emancipated from their parents so they could work longer hours or some shit. I can't remember who it was specifically, but cases like that where it's like... And this shit, Dave, season three, he was talking about that. They have a bit in there where they're working with child actors and they go into it and like...
They have, like, all of the welfare and safeguarding and stuff like that. All these people on set for looking after these kids, like, you know, like, taking them away. It's a dramatization of a set, but, you know, it shows the lengths that kid actors probably have to go through. So, like, have... And also just productions have to go through to deal with kid actors. And I know there's a load of safeguards in place, but it just doesn't seem like it's enough. Like, those safeguards will only seem to exist in a space where they're already safe in the first place. I remember speaking to...
somebody who works with um like harry potter films um and he said that it was the most frustrating part was the fact that obviously the kids could work certain amount of hours so he was he was pissed off because he's just like you know the crew get here like 3 a.m and they set everything up and then they can only work x amount of hours obviously they have to have like school in between so they have like sessions and yeah they just said it it would have taken like months and months quicker if they could have flouted those laws so you can see why some people try to get past them but
Yeah, they've got to be followed in a certain way. That's literally schools of kids. The most important thing is not the production of that film. And I'm sure they'd agree with that. They're aging quickly. Get them on camera. You're looking older, Ron. Oh my God, life is working on you pretty hard. Is that a wrinkle? Get off stage. Are there any new examples of kids just being straight up replaced with CG? No.
I mean, fuck. There will be. It's a really good use of AI, if you ask me. Just remove children from the film and music business. The equation entirely, yeah. Wait until they're a fucking adult. I mean, God, even 18 is too young to get into these businesses. You're so vulnerable still. You're so... I don't know, maybe we just have to accept that there's vulnerability. They're making themselves a star on TikTok and Instagram and shit now. Or YouTube.
I guess it's a form of decentralization in a way, in a way from making their own business. Yeah. But there's also just like, yeah, it's true. Well, I don't know what I want, but I don't want that either. Some of them get lapped up by the industries, the bigger industries like TikTok and a lot of the YouTubers like, who's that guy that was in LA? Bloody Logan Paul. Not Logan Paul, but similar to him. Who was that guy that was in LA? Curly hair. Jake, his brother. No, not the, um,
He got like invited to a golden ticket event and then was like in doctrine. Was it at P. Diddy's house?
I don't know. It's not a P. Diddy house, is it? East or west coast? I don't know. I don't even know the full story of the P. Diddy thing. I just know apparently he's just an Epstein. He's basically an Epstein. Yeah, and also using sex as a weapon against other men. Wow. He seems. But what's crazy, right? Like a fucking mad maniac. Yeah. But like, I don't know how much of it's true. Obviously, he's running away from the police, apparently, or some shit. So there must be some truth to it. So he's also a billionaire, right? He's got kids. He's got loads of kids. Yeah.
So P. Diddy's also a billionaire, right? I think so, yeah, based on all this... I just cannot believe that there are this many actual villains like these people, seemingly. I think there's this illusion of being untouchable, I suppose, because in some cases it probably is. But in some cases it probably is. Like such evil villains. It really does. It shows the fallibility of humans when they give us... It does, but also then they construct such complex...
things around them to enable them. It's quite lack of morality. Yeah, fallibility is one thing, but to then actively go out and use your skill set to create an environment for which enables the things you're doing shows a level of deviousness, which is just...
which is abuse of power yes full abuse of your yeah it's like the stories of here like the mad kings and queens of old yeah uh like just having insane power and doing horrible things with it it's mad man it's mad anyway i don't know if usher was involved in that as well i think he was he was mentioned justin bieber they're all mentioned in it but i don't know probably all got buggered by p diddy you want to get rich and famous you gotta make a deal with the devil yeah did you get buggered by p diddy this is why we haven't got a million subs because we haven't had that offer yet yeah
what to be buggered by P. Diddy I haven't been buggered by P. Diddy and now I think there's very little chance of it happening I don't think I'm running in the same circles I feel like let's leave it up to the court to decide whether P. Diddy or P. Didney
P Diddle? P Diddle. P Did he. P Did he. P Did he. P Did it. Anyway, we've made light of that enough. A little bit more, a little bit more else. Any more puns? God, there's some good puns. It's got to be a great time to be a tabloid writer. P Diddler. P Diddler. Nice. That's a simple one. I don't know why that wasn't the first one. I said that. You didn't say P Diddler? Ah, nice. Yeah, you said it right. He's covered the bases. P Diddler.
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Anyway, that is it for today for the Hatshack Podcast. Thank you very much for our half expose, half movie review. Wow, yeah, just some things we watched. We'll do more of those if you like them. I don't know how to get feedback. Comment on the video if you watched the video. Comment on the video. Send us an email now and again. Tell us what you like. And Bits, maybe you want to hear certain things from us. We didn't go into too many funny news today, but we've got some. News is there. We'll do more funny news stuff. It's out there.
But we want to make Hat Chat chatty for you as well. Me and Ross in particular could go a bit more nitty gritty into the film TV production side of it for breaking down films. Or we could just have our anecdotal thoughts and feelings on films. Just crack through the illusion. Yeah, and just say, we like this. You could probably like this. If there's already a camera in the building, it's clearly set up. Yeah. That's always the one. That always bothers me. Especially in documentaries. It's like, what?
Oh, hi. You've re-entered the building? He just set up a fucking tripod. Anyway. Thank you very much for listening. We'll see you next week. Have a good one and enjoy Zwibz. It was Dibzwart. Dibzwart. Zwart? Are we saying Zwart? Yes. Yeah, I'm going to say that. We'll say Zwart, like arty. Zwart. Thanks for the fingle. Enjoy the whole thing now. Goodbye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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