We should all be worried about Solar Flares!
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forever on the internet you literally can't take it down someone will do a backup potentially i assume so i assume so someone will back it up somewhere once it's on the internet you can't back backups i suppose yeah but what if they get taken down just everything suddenly google falls all the digital boundaries fall big solar flare white solar flare we do a big the big reset i

All the hard drives wiped across the globe. That would be a disaster. It would be a, frankly, economical disaster. Everything's down to zero. I mean, let's not fantasize about it. It's the reset. I mean, all the medical knowledge, all of the calibration software, everything required for complicated machinery. All the algorithms gone. Yeah, that would suck.

fingers crossed financial data being lost maybe wouldn't suck so much billionaires yeah well if everyone's set to zero what do you do well you have to defend your property yeah basically suddenly yeah wait you know we'd have no record of you owning this come and take it you know we should buy bear traps yeah

Just in case people try and get our shit. We can't afford, well, buy them now while we can afford them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we can steal them, I suppose, or craft them somehow. I've never made a bear trap and or worked with iron. The thing is, if you use bear traps, you've trapped someone in your hallway or somewhere, I'm guessing. You've deployed this. Now you've got someone screaming in pain. Yeah, so no one else is going to come.

Or they'll see a dead body and they'll be like, well, I'm out of here. So it's really going to work as an effigy. I hope it's not one of you. It's going to stink. As long as you're okay with the smell of decaying body in your hallway. You kind of have to be at this stage. Everything's been reset to zero. I think you can adapt to it quite easily. Well, the smell. Yeah, nose plugs. We can get some smelling salts.

Yeah. I've seen some podcasts where they get smelling salts and all test it, but they all just say it smells like piss. It's like horrible piss. Yeah. It's just meant to shock you awake. So it's going to be like smelling poppers. Maybe we should do it for a video at some point. I mean, you smell poppers, right? Smell, not used. Smell poppers. But isn't that how you use them? By smelling them really hard. Isn't it just a solvent kind of thing? Yeah, yeah, it's a solvent. Smelling salts are kind of the same sort of deal. It's just like a... It's just like a thing you... And then...

But I mean, it has the same, like not the same high necessarily because who can match poppers, am I right? But like, no, I'm kidding. But I think it is just like that. It's like a very strong, pungent smell that just shocks you awake. It's not like, smelling salts aren't like some sort of magical consciousness medicine. It just makes you just alert to it because it smells so pungent. Yeah. You could do that with dog shit probably. It's just obviously smelling salts are preferable. Yeah.

yeah dog shit is bad anyway not to steer the conversation around we keep going we always go dog shit we had a podcast last week a lot of dog shit we're talking about visceral smells and they always comes up so we need to buy a load of air bear traps and then air fresheners air fresheners for us yeah I'm not going to be able to back this up with any sort of form of insight just so you guys know but I mean it's interesting isn't it how thank you

How if you take money away, suddenly we're all just like, oh shit, there is no law. We would have to fight to defend the things we own because there's no way to track. But then you realize, wow, like you could do that now. And equally, and the only thing keeping that in place is the idea that we all believe in a financial system as a way of maintaining order.

Oh, yes. Yeah. It's very much a system we've all agreed on. Yeah. Mostly all of us. And it's completely not a fair system or a democratic system at all. But isn't it interesting that that's the only thing keeping democracies almost together is the idea that... You know how meritocracy is not, again...

I'm not informed enough to make this sort of insightful. You asked for a rebellion. But what I'm saying is it's just interesting how we all adhere to the ideas of meritocracy, as in work hard, you'll be rewarded, the best people for the job will rise to the top, all that sort of stuff. But we...

actually know that we don't live in that system at all. I feel like we're a nepotistic society instead. But this is still the best case scenario, I think. That's the thing. To us, what's the alternative? Okay, so we fucked the whole system and then all of a sudden we're having to fight for our lives to defend our homes because we decided to scrap the current system. That's what I'm trying to get to, right? Solar flare happens, boom. What happens?

How are you set up? You fucking hope that you're out in the middle of nowhere. What's your plan? If it happens, my car doesn't work anymore. Your Tesla's fucked, mate. So why'd you buy a Tesla knowing that a solar flare's coming? Because solenoids in cars go as well in combustion engines. So they're all fucked. Yeah, all cars would be fucked. I've got an electric bike. Well, steam trains, we can sort steam trains back out. Boom. Steam train life. Bring steam back. Are they ready to go on the rails? Yeah, yeah. There's a steam wire.

I don't know probably probably some some legacy ones there's ones you can hire which you have like dinners on and stuff which are fancy ones yeah I'd love to go on one of those things they look awesome they're all like mini tours yeah what are they called the express yeah what's it called express national not the actual express oh god that's the actual one

Why have I forgot this? The Orient Express? Is that right? Something like that, yeah. The Orient Express, and they have the really, really amazing cars. You can have a dinner day on there. The amount of stuff I get recommended on YouTube and Instagram about people taking flamboyant train journeys. I don't know why. I've never been on a train journey. Not one that I've enjoyed. We could also get narrowboats.

Yeah. Or one large narrow boat and that's it. We can hijack one. I know a place. So why are you going straight to vehicles? Well, it's just the ones that are moored up are all people are living in them. So we're going to have to turf some people out. You don't join them. We're hijacking this thing, tugging away at two miles an hour. I actually think this would work. So why are you going to vehicles?

It's not like there's a zombie infestation you're trying to escape from. Vehicles. Just the solar flare. Transport, shelter. Well, not just. Transport and shelter are very fucking useful in a situation like this. You've got one already. Canoes work. In what form? In the places you live currently. Yeah.

Yeah, but those places you can't, you can't, the ideal thing about having mobile shelter and mobile transport is if there is a threat in an area, you can move away from it because often the best answer to a threat is not to engage with it, is to move away from it. So if you're staying at home, staying in place and a problem develops in that area, you're just essentially waiting to be assaulted.

Whilst like if you had some form, especially something like a boat, which gives you quite a lot of isolation on the ocean or in rivers and things like that. Really, really useful. I would argue that the answer to your question. But the reality is, and I think this is the best, what you just actually touched on is actually the best solution here, is you desperately try to appeal to as many people around you to form a tribe.

A cult of sorts. Not a cult. It could be a cult though, couldn't it? It could be a cult. You could impose some form of ritualistic system. I guess, yeah. The phones are down. You can't just WhatsApp them. You have to put like a little note at the bottom of your building or neighborhood wise and be like, yeah, we're going to join or meet up at the, you know,

scouts over here and we'll all talk about this it's gonna be lord of the flies though it's gonna be a betrayal but there's a great article people want peace i think we might have talked about it before there was a great article about a guy that was hired to consult for a bunch of billionaires that were looking for advice on bunkers to build and how to run how to survive an apocalypse right this was something i can't remember just google it you know consultant talks to billionaires about the realities of security in bunkers and how ridiculous what the flood risks with bunkers

I always thought that... It seemed pretty high, right? Because drainage is normally... It goes down, right? Yeah, we'd have pumps. But if your bunker's lower, you'd have to get pumps. We don't necessarily need to build a bunker underground. You can build a bunker surrounded by mountains or something like that. I'm thinking of Mark Zuck's bunk. Yeah. Zuck's bunk. You would probably have a two-tier system. Is that real? I don't know if that's real. You'd have an above-ground... If you're a billionaire, I imagine you'd want to go for an above-ground solution and a below-ground solution. Right.

But yeah, you'd have both. You'd probably have pumps. About an air solution. So all that sort of stuff. But what I'm getting at here, the most important thing out of all of this, and this is why people shouldn't worry too much about this stuff and worry about the end of the world and all this sort of thing that you can't really plan for anyway. It's all simulation. But basically, he was laughing at them because they were like, right, well, when I have my mega bunker or my mega compound or whatever I'm living on when the world collapses, I'm going to have to somehow defend it from all the plebs that are going to want to get in and get all my good stuff.

So I'm going to have to maintain a security force, right? And the biggest problem they had was how do you keep, when money is basically worthless, how do you keep a security force loyal, especially when they're the ones with the weapons who could just turn them on you and become the billionaires themselves. And they couldn't work out. And they were like, do we use shock collars?

Do we use food as payment? Do we use... And basically this guy... They're going to use robots. This guy... Yeah, well, maybe. They're going to use robots. We're talking about humans here. This guy...

This guy said, like, you have to create communities. The only way to survive in situations like this is to create interdependent communities. It's in their interest to defend you and that community, just like organized countries. It's just like sociology 101. Human beings, they form tribes to stay safe together. They realize that they can benefit more through interdependency than they can alone. They expand, expand, expand.

And then different elements come into it, like cultural schisms and shit. And that's how you get changes and stuff. The way I'd pick wouldn't be like a sports team, like my community. Right. Because obviously I get to pick. You get to pick. I get to pick. And there's a gym of 11-year-olds.

No, there's really not. No, I don't picture that. Yeah, you do. You're a billionaire. They're all perverts. I'm not. No, I'm just picking a community from people. It's like, this would be good to isolate with these people. I don't think it should be based on just a conversation. I think it should be based on farts. How loud or smell? Smell. Smell. Good or bad? Well, that's the thing. You want good smellers only. People can lie to you, right? People can change their body language. They can say stuff to like,

sweeten the deal, so to speak, but then they're liars and they betray you. I think a fart is pure. Essentially, with a fart...

With enough training, I think you could figure out their diet. So first of all, you know if they're going to eat all your food stores. Yeah. Or they've got an addiction. Or you know there's some problems going on in their bowels. This is like oxygen not included. Have you played that? Yeah, yeah. They have all these traits. I do feel like we should rename the podcast to Fartcast. Fartcast. Because last episode we spoke about farts a lot. Did we? You've managed to get us back there again. But I agree that that's... I think it's an important trait. It's a trait. I think, yeah. Do they do that in submarines, do you think?

Do you think there's a no fart policy? Maybe you need to do something like a fart in front of you to prove that they're loyal, maybe. No judgment now. You have to fart in front of me. You can't do it in the next ten minutes. On command. You're out. You can't hide a fart. The thing is, though, mine are really stinky sometimes, but I feel like I could be valuable to you.

In the future. I don't know if it's the best judgment of character. I need to learn farts right first. Let's be a specialist. You need like a smellier. Bring out the fart sniffer. A smellier? Smellier. Yeah. Okay. So that person got... Imagine that's their job.

They've got on board with that. I can smell farts really real good. Oh, we need you on board. Just in case of the solar flare, I've learned to smell farts really good. That's a trait that we never even ever expected to train for. No colleges teach it. But like what else is there that could just let out the truth in a person so immediately, so viscerally than a fart?

You learn so much about someone. I don't think you do learn anything. I know. I think this is where I'm losing track of your argument a bit. I don't feel there's a huge amount of data in smelling somebody's fart. You get a lot of particulate out of them. You do. I mean, obviously... You can do blood tests. You can do a whole series of tests. I don't know if there's any time to infiltrate any of these ideas. Personal health is certainly a consideration in forming your future bunker squad. Ferraments? Well, yeah.

Apparently, the jury's out on whether human pheromones really have any effect on each other. Compatibility? What does that mean? I don't know. Well, apparently, you like the musk. What about you? Yeah, I mean, it's skills. Because IQ doesn't really matter either. It's just skills. If you can build good. Yeah. I mean, you need a bit of everything, right? You obviously would love a surgeon. Because obviously, who wouldn't want a surgeon? In this very short time period, you can't be running these auditions.

I'm just saying this is not happening in a short space of time. So what have you got, like half a day? A half day probably. Well, before chaos really happens. From global knowledge of it to shit going down, you've probably got half a day of being able to move without the shit in the back. Because do you imagine the police force would probably work for a period of time knowing that obviously everything's now worthless and they could just go back to their homes and families to try and save them. But do you think there would still be just an equilibrium situation

that would just stick for a period of time? I don't know. Or do you think the chaos would happen? I don't think chaos would happen overnight. Because if it built... Can we not just press a button and get our money back? It's like, ooh, we'll figure something out. It's like...

We don't know. Equally, as soon as problems start happening... And who are you asking? You can't even phone anyone. Your phones are fucked. Internet's gone. You'd use the army straight away. Governments need to use armies in those situations. Yeah, but then the army, like you say, with that security force dilemma... Yeah, but they've been brainwashed to love the country and the flag. I don't think that's true. You've got to make sure people know you're being satirical there. Because...

The guys going to Vietnam were fucking rainwashed. Yeah, well, they were also, like, press-tagging as well, though. To completely dehumanise the other side, that was their challenge. And also they're young and malleable, right? Yeah. But arguably, Vietnam was, like, the last war of that kind. Sure. But still, there's got to be a level of, kind of, like, acceptance that you're just running...

you're fodder for the most part as well getting thrown into these pointless walls this is a different thing this is about in terms of civic control it's all about the perception of control and the perception of organization as long as somebody thinks that somebody above them knows what the fuck is going on generally speaking people would be okay yeah so in that situation where money is nothing and yeah you need just to project confidence and strength so you need a leader who'd be like right yeah we're gonna use the army to make sure that nobody fucks about we're gonna sort this out yeah everyone calm the fuck down that

And also, with the farting thing, it's a power play. The farting thing? I'm showing confidence by making people fart for me. You would make them fart? Who's in that queue? So you're a billionaire sitting in a bunk, ready to go down into the vault. You can see a massive queue forming. What's everyone queuing for? Or we're just queuing to go fart for the master. I don't know if Domino's last night. I don't know if my fart's going to be good or not. We'll have to find out until we get there.

I'm like, hey, you don't have to fart for this guy. I'd go to that guy. And then I run up and I'm like, please let me in. Have you got a toilet in there? Okay, hold on. I've just filled my trues. I really need you to let me in. Otherwise, I'm doing the rest of the apocalypse with my pants filled with horrible shit. Just shitting himself and left outside the bunker. I think everyone would just, yeah,

hunker down in their own homes and try and figure out what's going on but I do would terrestrial TV still work I guess it would or would it not would a solar flare wipe that out as well I'm not sure what it would wipe out we're saying the internet's dead we're saying it's a massive electromagnetic burst I think anything electric is fucked basically yes it would take them back to candles yeah anything that requires electricity to work consider it possibly affected um

We've gone back 300 years, basically. And in a way that isn't easily repairable either, not just like I turn it back on once it's stopped, like this is blown, components would need to be repaired, things would need to be...

you know, rebuilt. So yeah, it's, and it could happen, but I mean, I'm not one of these people that wants to spread more doom. At the moment, especially, there's a huge amount of like, oh, World War III is going to happen. And I mean, obviously I went on record a few years ago and said COVID's probably going to be like swine flu and obviously it wasn't. But like at the same time, I do feel like it's important to be like, you know, there's a lot of talk about World War III at the moment. And honestly, it's a lot of, you know, obviously we're in a really hot situation right now, but it's not,

I don't want to add to this with like, what would you do in an apocalypse? I don't want to add to the daily noise necessarily because we think that it's, we want to talk about this necessarily because we think like World War III is happening. I'm just thinking about people living their daily life and like they listen to our podcast and they're like, fucking hell, they're talking about living in a bunker and they open the news and they see this shit and it's like. The angle I took was, what would you do in a solar flare? And I talked about farting. That was my angle. That's true, yeah. You were just more interested in

the correlation between fart-based knowledge and a solar flare. So there's not even going to the bunkers. We're fine. We're fit in the solar flare actually. I still wouldn't mind a cube. Knock things out for three days. But we got it back online and now Trot's more interested in what he can learn through farts. I think you can learn a lot. What age do they start conscription? 18. And what

Is there a cap? What's the oldest? Yeah, what's the top end? Are we in that? It would depend. Are we going to get sent out? Well, the last draft for the UK was World War II. Would you go or would you figure out a new life somewhere else? Would I fight? Well, only 23% of Britain surveyed recently in a YouGov poll. I didn't know it was YouGov. 23%. I didn't get asked. They said that they would serve. Whilst places like Finland, for example, who've basically been...

sort of worrying about Russia for years and years and years because they share a border with them. Like something like 86% of Finns said they would fight to defend their country. It's all about, I mean, there's loads. I mean, I, again, I am not the most informed person to ask about this. So perhaps go and listen to a few other things, but like there's, there's a really good podcast called the news agents that I've been listening to recently with Emily Matliss and a couple of other people. She was the one that interviewed Prince Andrew in the time they told her he couldn't sweat.

Yeah, what crazy. And like there's the rest of the rest is politics with the rest of the entertainment the other day. Yeah. Yeah. There's a whole series. Sorry. Yeah. But Pepsi Max there. But they talk about this a lot more and about like conscription and the realities of basically the bottom line is about the recent chat about conscription is that you can only successfully conscript in a country if popular opinion is for a war.

Oh, really? So it counts 40 then? Well, no, as in it won't work. You will have rebellions. Ah, I see. Like, if more than half your population is going, no, we don't want to fight this war, come and make us, and you've only got 70,000 soldiers in the entire army, how are you going to make 60 million people, 30 million people go and fight a war with 70,000 soldiers? It's not really... The difference will come as if a Russian missile lands on a factory or something somewhere. You know, say...

Opinion on a war changes as soon as your parent or sibling gets blown up by an enemy rocket. Yeah, that's a real motivation. Yeah, but obviously that's a long way away. Also, the EU just approved 50 billion for support for Ukraine, which is fantastic.

is fucking amazing in geopolitics news. Because they're using them as a kind of a blocker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because otherwise then we really have to get involved. It's going to cost a lot more than 50 billion. I mean, obviously it's not, like war in general is fucking horrendous, but it's the right decision to keep supporting Ukraine, I think, in terms of geopolitics and stability in the world. If you want my two cents. Should we talk about something else? Yeah, there's other things. Well, let's go to the funny stuff, I say. I say funny as in I found this, I don't know if this was sent to me or I saw it.

Anyway, the headline is Australian man escapes jail for exposing his penis at Hungry Jack's after a super Viagra orgy.

Sorry, what? Yeah, so Australian man escapes jail for exposing his penis at Hungry Jack's after Super Viagra orgy. What's Super Viagra? So Hungry Jack's is... Australian Burger King. It brings many questions, doesn't it? Is it just an Australian Burger King? It's literally Australian Burger King. It's got the same logo. It's got the exact same logo, but it's called Hungry Jack's. Hungry Jack's in a bap is the logo. That's the logo. Um...

Anyway, it says he's escaped jail for visiting Hungry Jack's drive-thru with a visible erection after claiming he was suffering from the effects of Super Viagra. So he had to let it out, obviously. So he'd be pushing against his pants. Sorry, at what point do you have to let it out? Well, it's Viagra. You could just wear trousers and kind of tuck it in the belt. You could up-tuck, yeah, for sure. I could up-tuck. I need to wear...

extra or like I have to wear something softer and put some trackies on and hang a coat on it I get a couple little bits of wide duct tape tape it to my belly duct tape and then get into a onesie Jesus fucking hell what are you dealing with just think of the removal process anyway

Do you think it was a genetic oversight that penises aren't long enough to just rest the tip in your belly button? It doesn't rest in it, though. Like, imagine if you could just plug it in. It's like an electric car. To be fair, some have curved penises. Some do, and some have long enough ones to put it into your belly button. It's a huge oversight. It's a huge oversight, yeah. And under you, to lie, is belly button. Once it's in your belly button, what are you expecting? That it's going to hold it like a suction cup? Yeah, like a car charger. You know? Just plug it in. Plug it in.

Don't worry, it's just storing it there for until later use. Anyway, sorry. His lawyer, Peter Maley, told the court his client had taken a substance known as Pitbull Super. There you go, if you want to grab that. Pitbull Super. Which is a super Viagra. Super Viagra? I like that they've name-checked the...

Pitbull Super. The substance which contains multiple erectile dysfunction medicines promises on the packet to give a man an erection that lasts for days. Sounds like it works. Which I've heard is a terrible thing and shouldn't really be... Like, apparently after... Is it...

four hours yeah that's considered pre-opism yeah and then you see a doctor yeah and they need to bloody drain it with an actual like syringe that's horrible i've got i've got it here one single pill natural formulation apparently oh god yeah the logo's on here pitbull super lasts for days it's 14 quid single dose stay wild stay wild lasts for days though i

That's bad, isn't it? You have to have a plan. 62,000 milligrams. Look how intimidating that pill is as well. Is that what that says? Why is it not in a killer? It's just like a jet black pill surrounded by like a red...

Natural formula. Long-lasting, no headache. There you go. Anyway, if you really, really want a super Viagra, and you're like, I really want a boner for several days. I'm going to need this up for days. Which I don't know why you need it for days. Anyway. 62,000. That's not important. He seemed like he needed it. He said he had the desired effect. After enjoying his time with a number of young ladies, 51-year-old Richardson reportedly remained rigid, and when his penis began to split, he started to panic.

So he went for a feed. What? Sorry, what? What? Split. Started to split. His penis started to split. Supposedly, yeah. Says he explained that Richard and the genitals were too sensitive to wear shorts, so he draped a towel over the affected area. That's good. And went through the drive-thru of Hungry Jack's, the home of the whopper across the ditch. Why is there no clarification on what splitting... I say this is written by a New Zealand. Across the ditch is probably a term that we don't use. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not our term.

Okay, carry on. Anyway, it was reported that his tumescence was witnessed by a 16-year-old worker who was reduced to tears by the experience. So, I mean, how did he escape jail? I don't know.

I'm guessing he was in his car with a towel draped over his penis. And he's like, I'm getting a burger. Ultimately, like the fact he's erect, as long as he wasn't like, hey, stick a boner on my dick. This is it. I'm guessing it was just a case of, oh, I've seen something I shouldn't see. Or an erection. Didn't see the erection, just saw a lifted towel. Yeah. I mean. Magic trick. Hang on. Does it say, hang on. Sorry. What does that say? Boners are better at Hungry Jack's. The paper thundered in the front page headline.

actions as a whopper fallacy it generated a vibrant debate on talkback talkback radio where host Ray Hadley described Richardson's explanation as a load of poppycock the magistrate has tumbled for the greatest load of crap I've heard in my life he claimed so he thinks it didn't happen well I don't know it feels like it feels like a kink thing almost why would you leave your home

When you can order... He was hungry. I don't think he can though. Can't you order? Maybe not. Is this New Zealand or Australia? It's in Australia. Across the ditch from New Zealand. Yeah, sorry. The ditch. That famously narrow ditch of a giant fucking ocean. Anyway. The judge agreed that he should have been a bit of the doctors rather than a hungry jack's drive-thru.

Agreed. And his decision had backfired quite dramatically. But did anything actually... No, nothing actually... He got handed a nine-month good behaviour bond. So I'm guessing anything happens in nine months, he's straight to jail. Do not pass go. Better stay fleshed for nine months. I don't know if it's like a penis punishment. Cock cage. Nine months. A cock cage. Man, that wouldn't be quite the punishment. Yeah, put him in a cock cage and then make him eat one of those pills again. Oh, my God. It would be like a fucking Play-Doh. He would just...

Talk about split. It comes out star-shaped. I'm just baffled. Damages all the tissue. They just skirted over the fact that the penis started to split and then they just moved on with the story. This is it. This is what's kind of weird. They've not been like, how did it split? And why is that relative to you wanting to go to Hungry Jack's? I don't believe it started to split. I don't believe that your body... He probably said it hurt so much it felt like it was about to split. Or that it was so engorged that he felt like it was going to just... Is it like a colloquial term maybe? Sorry? Like, get an erection is called like getting a split.

I don't think so. In Australia. Been on a split. The way they phrase it doesn't seem like it's... I wouldn't put it past those animals, but no, I don't think so. What? What the fuck? Animals? What the... Australian people. Don't just say what. Your words, not mine. You just said it. No, no, you said the Australian people. You said those animals. Anyway, Jesus, I apologise to our Australian listeners if there are any. Not anymore. Not anymore. They're all gone.

They're all just at Hungry Jack's, clearly. With their earth-splitting... Like... Yeah. So he just said the pill was too strong. I'm surprised it's legal to sell that stuff. I was in a lot of pain. I wasn't trying to flash myself at anyone. I just wanted to grab a feed and go home. You just wanted a feed, like a horse. Several days to recover from the effects of Super Viagra. To recover... Several... What? I...

Well, because he probably just had an aching erection for several days. I just feel like it's not a part... It's the way they said, oh, it took me a couple of days to recover from the dick pillow I bought off of the... I just feel like... It must have been throbbing. In what way are you talking about any of this stuff casually? Like, you know, I got a dick pillow. Oh, wow.

It made me hard for three days. Then I went to get some burgers and got in trouble. This guy took the pill and went to a fucking Burger King. I feel like you want his level of normal. I think that's what they're alluding to. He clearly wanted it to be a thing. Yeah. So, you know. Yeah, it's weird. Very strange. So you don't recommend that brand particularly then? I don't. Well, Hungry Jacks. It sounds dangerous. Pitbull XL? Pitbull XL?

How is that a big ad? Oh, you're going to have a boner for days, but it's going to ache so much that you have to have also like several days recovery time. Well, it's not fake. It definitely works. Apparently so. There's a tagline like, get a cock like an illegal breed. What does it say? Does it say it's just like basically several Viagras in one? It just said multiple. It said multiple. Although like, this is the thing though, like you can buy it without a prescription. Yeah.

I don't know whether you can do that in the UK. Can you get Viagra without a prescription? Yeah, I think so. Oh, can you? Yeah, fair enough. I don't know if I want that in my head. I know, you're going to get so many cookies as well. That's the main thing they're trying to tell you. And then you look up dick pills and then you're never going to stop getting Viagra. I've got another 10 emails. What are they? They were cold calling you, but now they have proof that you're interested. You get them anyway. God damn. Okay, well, we can move on to something different now.

We mentioned F1 last week about the funny names. That's true. There was some drama today which was shocked. Big drama in the F1. It's not funny. It's just about that Lewis Hamilton has been with Mercedes for a long time. He's not left Mercedes. He's going to in 2025 to Ferrari. Oh my God. Which is a massive deal, really. Because he was always, you know, waving the Mercedes flags. Was his car always red anyway? No.

No, no, no, no, no. It was going to be now, isn't it? I mean, was he with... No. That's huge. He was with McLaren before. I mean...

I mean, he might as well, I suppose. But, yeah. So, I mean, that's an interesting development. Aren't they all basically the same car anyway? Don't really matter. Well, not really, I guess. Otherwise, well, I mean, they're all, like, within a few milliseconds of each other. Which is always kind of crazy, you know, the differences in milliseconds. But, yes, it'd be interesting to see the difference. I think it spices the F1 up a bit more. Does it? Because rather than just, like, staying with the same car... Who's currently in Ferrari that's going to get, like, demoted because of... Probably Carlos Sainz will be taken out, I reckon, because...

Yeah, I think he's probably the best. Get benched. Maybe he'll go to Mercedes.

maybe great swap or we're saying that I think Perez yeah again it's all just new branding opportunities let's be honest like as in this could be like end of Lewis like the last few years of Lewis Hamilton's like stature in this like sport but like not that I care about these things but like as in he gets to go to a new brand Ferrari and then there'll be a bunch of new brand deals and new sponsorships he'll be able to get because of his new association with this new thing he's new news again

Maybe he's like, oh, I don't want a Maybach. I want one of the newer Ferraris in my roster as I retire. And they'll be given to him for free because he now waved the Ferrari flag. And all the other luxury Italian brands will be like, hey, yeah, we know you're a Ferrari guy. We want to sponsor you now. Although I can't imagine he's worried about money. He's

I know, it's weird. But I mean, I guess it scales up, doesn't it? They're probably always worried about money. Everything's relative, yeah. I don't think they're worried. It is nuts to hear. The word worry is the wrong word. Worried about winning. Just, you know, it's nice to have several Friars in the garage, isn't it? But I don't think that's the reason. It can't be the reason. I think he's probably just bored at fucking the fact that Mercedes haven't been doing well for the last few years. And also, yeah, there was a whole drama of him missing out on that last win against...

Verstappen. And he's blaming... No, I don't think he's blaming... Well, Mercedes just got shit, really shit after that. They changed the rules, some of the rules on certain builds of the cars, and then the cars were shit. No more Lego. Anyway, we're not an F1 podcast. All I know about F1 is that it fucked up a lot of our Uber rides in Vegas. Yeah. Yes. Because of the construction of the Vegas track. The residents of Vegas kind of hated it. I'm sure they do. Yeah, well, it was...

big upheaval but don't worry you've got it for the next what 10 years something like that yeah lol anyway well that's the F1 news for you we don't have to do an F1 segment all the time it's just this came up this morning and I thought oh I'll mention it new drama we also mentioned the fact that the name changed last week which was kind of stupid that was really stupid what was it again Cash App fuck

Cash App Visa. He's a Cash App RB1. Cash App Visa RB1 or some shit, yeah. I think it's an interesting talking point, F1, because it is one of the more absurd, decadent sports of our era. And there's stuff to talk about there in reflection of...

Should we talk about darts instead? Are you a fan of darts? I like playing darts. Comedic juggling. Comedic juggling? Where did it go? When did it go? When did you last see it? Is that a sport? Do you mean like tumbling? 80s, 90s when people could go on stage and their main thing could be juggling whilst throwing a few candid jokes out there as well. Oh, wow. Joking and juggling.

Where did that go? Jokeling. I don't know. Is there much demand for it? I suppose it's, is there a demand for it is the real question. Does it matter? Is there a demand for TikTok dances? You see a load of them anyway. I think there must be, clearly, if it's continued to be suggested. I reckon if we just start juggling. There could be jugglers on TikTok. I've not looked for that. Are they cracking jokes?

Are they cracking cool jokes? I couldn't tell you. I've not done any research on this. Like, they're juggling. They're pretending like, oh, I can't juggle. Well, you're just coming up with some really weird, wacky curveballs today, Trot. And... Probably have some sort of disease or something. What? Wackiness disease? Wacky disease, yeah. Yeah? Yeah.

I just inhaled too many 3D fumes. Yeah, you're getting your brains melting. Smooth face. I think I've been immersed in toxins for long. I always thought the 3D printed stuff, I was just like, oh, the fumes will be fine. No, it's really bad for you. The microparticles, the tiny particles. No, well, it's the fact that UV resin, the liquid stuff that I use, is highly toxic and you can develop a serious allergy for them if it has contact with you. Also, the IPA I use to...

to wash away the bad resin is extremely pungent and gets into the air. So your lungs are taking a hit too, are they? Yeah. Your lungs are taking a double hit, double hit. Well, I wish you all the best, Chris Trott, with your... I'll print out real cool minis, though. Yeah. That's good. We've got something out of it. Maybe you should get an industrial extraction system and go into the room you have your printer in. Yeah. Or just do it over where the hob is. Do you have an extraction system? Yeah. You do? Yeah. Okay.

I've got little fans and stuff. But like, does it take it out of the room? Yeah, yeah. It goes out the window. Nice. Well, that's good. Yeah, but... Now it's nature's problem. Or I could suck it up and not be a little puss-puss. Well, there is that. I could adapt. That is the methodology that... If I breathe enough IPA, I can learn to breathe with it. Yeah. True. And then you hit 60 and all the... I mean, people live with asbestos for many years, right? Well, yeah. I mean, there's a huge... Quite a few of my family members have worked in industrial settings with chemicals and things like that. And... They're fine. Well,

There's always been this big anti-PPE element to being a trade or industrial person. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know whether it exists so much anymore. Why are you using gloves on that? Just build up the callus in your hands. It's 200 degrees. I can't quite grab it with my hands. No, just grab it. Oh! Bloody hell. Big girls blouse, big girls blouse. Yeah.

Yeah, hopefully that's not the case anymore. But yeah, no, it does seem like it fucks you up pretty bad. It's like work peer pressure. Yeah, it is. It is exactly that. It's a weird, bizarre, like, enforcement of a lack of change through peer pressure against something that's clearly a good idea. Well, not using a mask, though. Pussy. As he coughs up his lungs. Toxic masculinity masking hidden anxiety, right?

I guess so, yeah, the worry that they haven't done that, so that you will be living with a different set of advantages maybe than they will. I don't know. Or rather, they need to start worrying about it. By projecting a sense of you don't need to worry about it, they don't need to engage with their own anxiety. So yeah, pretty much, yeah. Pretty much 101. Pretty much any kind of communication issue comes down to, doesn't it? But really back to the fighting, which I think is really the big matter at hand here.

Maybe we should get some training. What if... Do you think there's a way to create, like, data that is in an aerosol gas form? So, like, you know... Yeah. Like, yeah, how would you do it? Like, you spray the air and it's like, oh, it's the new music I want on the album, thank you. Is that what you mean? Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. The way of sharing data through aerosol. Yeah, yeah. So you could compress any form of data into an aerosol. How would that work in your mind? And...

Yeah, go on. Solve it. So it's more about like... The aerosol, I think, would be easy, right? Yeah. So you have all your data in aerosol form. It's essentially zeros and ones, right? I guess so. You just fucking scan them to the wind, right? But then they're all out of order, though, because they're in an aerosol. Well, that's the important thing. You need a collection system... That already knows exactly what to look for. Which really... So you don't need the aerosol. You need the thing that already knows what it's looking for. Yeah. You just essentially have a copy, and it looks cool when you spray it.

I don't know. What's your idea? I don't think this will work. Okay. But did you see that they've actually done their first human trials on Neuralink? No. Oh, they have? They've initiated them. I don't know if there's any results yet, but that person's dead right now. Who accepted that? Because there's been a lot of animals dying. People fucking queue up for that shit. People are like, I want to be the first one. Because they're all just about clout and likes and whatever shit. They're like, I get to say I did it. And then like...

Great, you're horrendously brain damaged. Get the air gun. Sorry. Sorry, you signed up for this. Holy shit, we had to execute Zoella last week. Stupid idiot signed the paperwork, didn't even think. She just said, hey, I'm going to get more likes for this. She came in with an Apple Vision on and we just bolted her in the back of the head. Yeah, that'll be interesting to see what happens though with that. Maybe you could use aerosols to...

I feel like unfortunately Elon Musk has tainted all of those companies for me. Like SpaceX is incredible and what they're doing is amazing and I love to follow it. Elon Musk has tainted it because he's at the top of it. Tesla, same thing. He's kind of tanked the whole market and...

and the brand for me. And Neuralink, again, it's just Elon playing God with our brains. And that's just a little worrying for me. It's like there's someone at the top there that can just tell all these engineers and scientists to go in this direction instead of that direction, not for the benefit of humankind, for his ego. And that's my big worry about the whole thing. It's like, sure, it may be beneficial eventually, but to what end and why is he doing it really? Yeah.

It's worrying. And also, like, if you extrapolate that, like, think about how countries, like, governments run countries, right? Like, right now, we don't, well,

well, most democracies don't like a centralized single point of power. Private companies as well. Exactly. Now, if these companies are going to become more and more entwined with how we live our lives, like turning into a more like corporation-ran country, not necessarily ours, America, lots of other European countries, who the fuck knows, China. Like, think about how dangerous it is. You're absolutely right to have a person like that at the top who essentially is now running a country as well as a company. He's an egomaniac.

This is what... I mean, it happens. I think it happens to these people because they are... You become a victim of your own success and you turn into a nutcase. I think there's a certain point when you reach a certain level of power and innovation and control and all this sort of elements where you need to step down and give that to a board of people who need democratized decision-making. We've mentioned Elon Musk before and slagged him off for stuff without really explaining the reasons why because it feels like everyone should know, but...

There are people saying, oh, how did he get to those positions anyway? How has he managed to do that? He's obviously very smart. He's obviously very talented in some ways to be able to get to those positions. But I think also it's a bit of a snowball once you get a large amount of money. You can just buy companies that know how to do these things and they run themselves anyway, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because...

I can imagine being an actual CEO would take a lot of fucking time and energy. And I don't think you could probably ask most CEOs and most companies whether they actually have time to tweet at all. I'm not denying he's not smart. No, but he spends all of his time doing that shit. Oh, yeah. Whereas how does he have any free time at all to do any of that stuff when he's got like six companies or five different massive multi-billion dollar companies? They're all being run by other people. Yeah. And so like,

you can kind of trust that they might be there's someone with their head switched on that knows what they're doing with these companies yeah there's an egomaniac at the top

But there's got to be something out of these companies that's working properly. He was lucky to be born into wealth as well. And so he always had that leg up to get started. I think he denies that, doesn't he? Like money makes money. He's clearly a mental, like kind of, he clearly has several issues, like personal, like, you know, obviously there's all sorts of crazy shit going on with Elon Musk. I don't need to even touch on that. Yeah, I think it's more about like,

how companies get made, how the decision-making ends up going, the kind of people, personalities involved in getting these things made and then eventually running them and turning them into something. I mean, like you say, it's at the point now where a lot of these big companies, not necessarily just him and his stupid name, but other huge companies around the world all have massive impacts on all of your lives, but you have no ability to vote on that impact. And people are like, well, you just don't buy their products. And it's like, well...

It's not really, like, you know, it's, like, consumer activism's a weak, like, you know, antidote to the power they have. Yeah, so, like, it's, yeah, it needs, I mean, it needs, same thing with all the stuff we talk about, same with, like, AI, all this shit. It needs a good solar flare. It needs legislation. It needs good, it needs people, smart people coming together and deciding how we're going to actually handle all these things. We predicted the Kropperman, and it could actually be real with these human trials. Yeah. Yeah.

I assume he's kind of... Well, because the flip side of this is... You're right about the whole tainting thing. And, like, you know, Neuralink is not just about controlling... I mean, it could be used for that, I guess, one day. But also, it could be used for... Military... But it could also be used for health, you know? It could be used for, like, helping people walk again. It could be used for, like, so many other, like, people...

overcoming disabilities. Motor neurons. And these things as well. Military weapons. Yeah, yeah. So yeah. The drones alone, fuck me. Yeah, you don't even need to get that complicated to develop terrifying weapons. Drones are horrifying. People are a complication. The use case for those is insane in like a war zone. Yeah, they are. Because they are just...

fucking kamikaze into people and just like dropping bombs and it's just like you hear buzzing above you're fucked but like also look at the crazy displays at new year's of all these drones working in coordination imagine a swarm of those fuckers chasing you down in a war zone that would be the fucking worst i mean obviously that's the next step that's probably way better than those little fucking dogs that can run around yeah and those are just backup just to finish off the you know well actually it depends on your money it depends on your monetary value actually so i'll keep you i'll i'll

I'll make you feel a little bit more secure. You're probably never going to be chased. Well, maybe not in any time soon. Chased by a swarm of drones that are going to kill you because it'd be too expensive. You're not worth it. Like you're, you know, you're probably worth less than a thousand dollars as a soldier.

So as in that you personally, if you were conscripted, again, I was reading, I don't know, some of the Wall Street Journal's analysis of munition use or something like that. But basically there's a load of like guided rockets and drones and shit that could be shot down that are coming into Ukraine. But the reason is that when a drone costs 20 grand and an anti-air missile costs like 400 million or something, well not that much,

Patriot missile systems are exceedingly expensive to use. You basically can only use certain munitions on certain threats. So all likelihood is you're still going to be getting nailed by a hand grenade strapped to a 3D printed drone rather than the ones you saw at New Year's Eve. So if that helps, it's not going to get much better. How would you counter? Let's say you can see there's a drone there. What do you think could be good at countering? Like a net gun? Yeah.

Yeah, so artillery positions have been... Something that fires a net out, because I think that's probably the cheapest and easiest thing you can just kind of fire nets out there, so it at least grabs them and disables them somewhere. There's something easier than that, but it's more expensive. Electronic warfare systems. So there's a couple of ways they do it. So they do do the net thing. I saw those, but they use drones and then destroy those as well, because they use EMP things.

whatever to stop signals. Oh yeah, well you can actually broadcast like in an area, like an area denial. So like you, the problem is it interferes with all other sorts of shit. But yeah, essentially you can scramble the transmission wavelength that they use. So I think it's used like the 5.8 gigahertz spectrum is usually what they use. That's why my wifi is on the blink. Yeah, so that's where 5G is in that part of the spectrum. It's where TV used to be, I think. Analog TV used to be in the spectrum.

But no, yeah, you're right. But with like artillery positions, if they're prepared enough, they'll put up huge nets amongst the trees that are hard to spot so that when a targeting drone comes in, it'll stop the drone in there. Very practical. The ones that are high up and they drop a bomb, that's scary as well. What about... Yeah, look at those videos going around. They're like a metal umbrella.

That's pretty good. That's a shield, what you're describing. Yeah, yeah. And then you duck down into a dome. Yeah. Like a dome. Just a giant metal ball that you can roll around in, like a hamster ball. Yep. That's going to be quite a heavy umbrella. Sounds like a... Yeah, it will be. But then I've got an exoskeleton suit. They have used those drones... They use those against tanks as well. They just...

blow those ups out different what kind of metal umbrella using this better well captain america shield style it's kind of shocking how effective those designs just like that's the next step isn't this we're seeing it we need to build bunkers anyway it's so hard because there was a guy unless you put his hands up to one and it's just like it doesn't surrender it's not going to be that's crazy but you're saying you're not just seeing technology there you're seeing war it's her i mean obviously again i

I'm not trying to pretend to be an expert on this shit. So please don't think that I am. But it's just horrendous. We keep saying that you are a resident. That's our fault. I know you're not, but some people are like, I'm trying to explain the things I've read and stuff. And I'm not. But yeah, it's just horrendous. It's absolutely horrific. But it's weird because it's part of everyday life because you see it on the platforms you use. And this is why we're talking about it. It's a problem. It's everyday life. Chronic online addiction.

consumption yeah well you say that but it's an awareness as well because I think it's like what are you going to do with that because those fuckers queuing up at World War 1 saying yeah let's get involved they didn't have to worry about that shit although they weren't fully aware of what was going to happen when they got there oh fuck that's actually terrible you don't have to be aware of it and therefore worry about it but they were queuing up to get involved because they were like yeah we'll G'd up fight for their country and stuff obviously we know the realities of what that's going to look like and also the people fucking saying do this do that don't get touched at all they're in their fucking yeah

But you know that now. Diamond palaces. They're a diamond protected dome. Everything's made of diamond. And they're just calling the shots and they get to live out the rest of their lives without any kind of guilt. You're aware of the harrowing scenario of war, so you don't need to consume any more of it. Oh, no, yeah, but it's just making you worse in your day-to-day life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just worried about a drone coming out of the sky. Well, I don't worry about it here.

But if I was in a war zone... I think the worst case scenario is if they combine a New Year's drone display, like Godzilla, running at you, and that is all drones in a war zone. Like, that is charging you. Like the Gandalf Dragonfire. Look over the hill!

Holy shit. We don't know if that's a complex light display or they've actually got a robo-Godzilla. I'm not really sure. Is it firing at us? Oh my God. Use the nuke. Yes, we tricked them into using the nuke. Munitions war one. Yeah, right. Jesus. Because that's what was happening in like World Wars as well. They'd put like prop tanks and prop airfields up. So they would create whole false areas of like,

of pretend places so that Germans would drop bombs on false targets and use munitions. It's all a big part of war. So that very much could happen one day. Wasn't that what they did in the filming of Dunkirk? They had a load of cardboard cutouts that are waving. Same as Commando. Yeah. The film Commando with...

I think that was. I'm not sure, but basically, yeah, there's just a load, like real explosions, but there's a load of flapping dummies, like just waving in the wind next to it. Have you seen Masters of the Air yet? The new Band of Brothers thing? Oh, no. Oh, okay. Oh, it's a really new Band of Brothers thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, nice. Again, I don't know what it is about Apple TV or people just ignore Apple TV, but there's... It's not even talked about. It's bizarre. It's just not anywhere. So it's the third, like, instalment, so obviously Pacific came after... Yeah, that was really well done. ...Battlefront.

Band of Brothers this is now called Masters of the Air and it's about US bomber command like basically like when the Americans entered the war and it follows which is what all the only thing that matters right when America got involved well it wasn't going very well until they did so do we thank the Japanese or you thank Hitler for trying to attack Russia but or don't thank him for anything

I just wouldn't be thanking any of these people. But yeah, basically, it's about...

Yeah, about their bomber command. And it's, yeah, I just wondered if you'd seen it. But it's interesting because you're talking about the flappy, like, cardboard shit in films and stuff. I wasn't that impressed with the CG in the new one. No spoilers. The Masters of the Air. Oh, right. Some of the CGI, specifically when the bombers are, like, taxiing on, like, driveways and stuff, I was like, maybe my television's too big. But that doesn't look very real. This is too long.

enlarged shrink it down you need to watch it on the true experience you need to watch it on your phone Apple wants you to watch it on the new Apple Vision Pro and then it's going to look amazing yeah maybe maybe because then I can look around the scene I can turn around and watch the cameraman and the light people just go like I'll let you watch after wow wow what a shared experience are you fucking serious

Is it good? I don't know. Can you see my eyes? You're distracting me. I'm going to crown you out now. Full immersion. No, no, I am paying attention. Don't look at my eyes. Honey, stop talking. Your ugly AI demon representation is freaking me the fuck out.

those look so warped it has been interesting seeing the reviews coming out for the Apple Vision Pro yeah like obviously I'm very excited was pretty in depth I like that I think the Verge one was really good too if you've watched that one basically it's exactly what you'd imagine it's incredible technology and they've really pushed that technology and they're creating new names for it spatial computing when it's VR um

But it's like there's no like killer feature on it that's like this is better than using a laptop or having a TV. There's no like app on it. You know like iPhones, it had like certain things on it. It's like this is worth amalgamating an iPod, a phone, and a thing. It was the music, it was the phone, it was the computer, it was the calendar, it was the email. And they put it into a nice form factor. Apple Vision Pro is not the thing that's going to replace or amalgamate

or make better the things that already exist. Yeah. I mean, it's a stepping stone, isn't it? Yeah, it's a stepping stone. Like, all these products are... Tech, until tech gets as easy as... Currently, you pick up your phone, look at it, and that's as easy as it is. It's so accessible for anyone. You can pick it up, there it is. Oh, all your information is there. You see it, notifications, whatever. Like...

to have to then put a headset on you've got that awkward kind of barrier sure you can now see everything which is great I think that's a really good that's what you want you want to see everything as well and have these things floating in the world that's cool it's smaller too it's getting smaller yeah it's getting smaller but thus they've had to do strange workarounds with an extra battery pack and stuff and like

And they've also done the arsehole classic thing where they made it proprietary so you could just plug a USB-C into it because they're fucking Apple. So yeah, like it's a stepping stone. I think a lot of these people need, these people, these companies, these goddamn people need to accept that it's just a goddamn screen and they need to stop being so excited about it. It's just another form of, that's what I think. I think it's another form of monitor.

I understand the software integration around the way you can then interact with that monitor but ultimately it's a monitor first it's a way you interact with the device the i bit of your device yeah because Siri is dog shit still yeah which is absolutely mind boggling considering I mean you can have a full blown conversation with a chat in GBT yeah and like

How they haven't got that technology now or just bought a company that has a capable technology. You know, it's really sad Google is rolling back the number of staff that has working on its voice assistant It's fired loads of people in their voices, which is really sad because I use the Google home at home I know Alexa is the other option and then Siri I guess is maybe the third option right there's the big three like voice assistants you can think of well Yeah, so so so Siri shit

Google Assistant, they're rolling support back for it or rather not working on it as much. And Alexa is okay. I don't know. I don't use it very much. I'll be honest. It's not really changed. I fucking hate talking to technology. Do you? I find it just a barrier. I don't want to talk out loud to things. I love it. Obviously, I want a point where it's just like I like the idea that you can look at something and activate it by looking at it. That's cool.

And obviously, yeah, it's not a point where you can just mind read, like you can't just read your mind.

I just find that talking to technology, please turn this on. I just find that that's really still arbitrary. Well, there's specific scenarios where you, yeah, the option would be nice, right? But when you've got lube in one hand and you've got your dick in the other and you want the blinds to close, the lights to go out, what are you going to do then, Ross? Are you going to just switch off the light with your hand? Well, this is, but that's what, like, I don't think I've got the feature turned on in these new watches, but supposedly you can tap to, like, access certain things. I don't even think that. Yeah, it clacked like a lobster. Have you even activated that on your, I don't even know if I've got that at work.

Yeah, hand gestures to do things in the world seems a bit more organic to me. It is, but it's also not. Apparently it's really annoying because they've got incredible eye-tracking technology in it, right? You have to look. You have to look at the thing that you interact with, which apparently is not very human because the amount of things you don't quite look at, but you're interacting with. Well, you say you're jerking it with one hand, lubing constantly, and then you're like...

looking around, like, trying to see your multiple screens and pornography. You're doing this the whole time, aren't you, really? Also, you type a message out, right? And you want to, like, send it to there. You don't have to be looking at it to just press enter, right? In order to interact with that window, you have to be looking at it at the time of you interacting with it. So, yeah, it's a little weird. It's a limitation of the interface. But, again, yeah, I mean, it's an interesting piece of technology. And the worst thing about the VR tech...

demos and stuff until you use it you don't fucking know what it's like at all and I think that's the same with you can't just I don't think you can describe them you can look at it through a screen and be like oh that looks pretty cool but until you experience it like same with the VR we've tried it's amazing it's almost really fucking cool and it's like so immersive once you're in there but like selling that is so hard I think until you actually can try it out especially if you're selling a product that's like almost four grand or whatever it's like

That's a big sell. About the guy who's like, you can watch it in a minute. If you think about it right, three and a half grand on a television is a huge amount of money to spend on a television. I don't think I've ever spent that much on a television. And so the idea that you'd need to get another one for your significant other if you both want to enjoy something together, and even one of them is more expensive than a TV that you can all enjoy. That's the problem. That is a huge challenge. That's what The Verge raised. It's like, this is an incredible...

incredibly isolating experience yeah yeah this is just like you go home honey get your mask on let's go watch something or chill out we're cooking with our fucking headsets that is a black mirror it's just like but at the same time fuck how cool would it be you've got the recipe there you're there just fucking doing everything there are aspects of it which are quite cool but yeah it's still early stages and

Yeah, the sharing element is moving away from that. When you think all those things, the talks about iPhones and stuff, they're like, oh, you can share everything, share all this, share that. That is one step away from it. That's the opposite of what they're all about normally. That is, I think, the biggest fallacy of the tech and social media era, if you want to call it that, as in maybe the social media era rather than tech. But like...

is the idea that we're being brought closer together because we are never more divided. And it's just fucking hilarious that these people say this stuff. I think we're becoming more aware of it as consumers, but I think the tech is still trying to push that. But it's just like, I can't believe, like, I love tech. I love the, you know, like you say, this incredibly expensive device is Apple Vision thing. We're talking about it right now, which says something. The screen technology, the camera technology, all these things I love. You know, I really love a good screen. I love a good monitor. I love good camera technology. I love all of this stuff.

but like it's when they say to you like we're bringing people together or like you know like you can share everything with the people most important to you it's like the people most important to you probably would rather actually see you than have some bullshit things shared to them it's a stepping stone because they want everyone to be wearing that device then you can share things then you can be like we're looking at each other you can see my eyes underneath there in the digital form and kind of a

They look weird and it's just not quite right. It's not necessarily a failure of the direction they're going. It's a failure that their marketing is no longer working. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's the case. They just need to accept that, like, of course we want these systems or need some of these systems or technologies out there, but it's just... Yeah. Just be fucking honest with us because, like...

You're not. We know what you're fucking doing. We can see right through the Apple bullshit now. And the whole privacy thing, you know, like the loss of privacy through digital infrastructure that we've experienced over the last decade of like us becoming less and less private as people. Everything we have is recorded and shared throughout an entire lifetime. You know, like...

we kind of let that happen partly because we understand that it's kind of part of using the products and part of using the services you know you're like I want to use this service I want to use this product and I understand it comes with some caveats you need to be aware of that so you need to be honest with each other you know like use social media too much it is going to rot your fucking brain but it's also a useful way to share photos and experiences with friends like they're not doing anything to stop the addiction

they want you on there as long as possible it's all time based but like yeah the privacy thing is kind of what I think but the speech thing having to say because like if there are a group of people in the room and you're like do this do that oh send message and then start I don't know I don't like that element of it you're announcing things you just don't you just tap it I mainly use my voice a bit more of a discreet element to it

But you can do both. It feels very American, doesn't it? It's a hybrid system. To yell out what you're doing. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I get what you're coming from. Some people can't physically do that. So accessibility is important. Yeah, accessibility is good. I can and I still like it. So I'm coming from like a, as in like all my lights are rigged up to Google Home. So I can turn them on and off. Just like say I'm going to bed and like I've left all the living room lights on. I can just tell it to turn it off. Sure. That's an improvement. I sometimes ask about the weather and those are pretty much the two things I use it for. I don't do like personal messaging on it.

correctly send message to bro hey bro you do it in the car which makes sense in the car you know that's a good use case yeah yeah um but that's yeah i just don't do it at home i suppose and it just feels like it because when you've got the device on your head you're supposed to say stuff to it and activate other things that doesn't feel as natural to me no i don't know if i'm like in the middle of like getting ready to leave and i quickly want to know what is it raining right

I'll do the voice thing because I'm like putting on a coat and putting on my shoes and stuff It's like it's very quick to just ask the voice assistant. What's the weather like right now? Yeah, like put on a coat and that's not stopping me from like getting my phone out checking the weather So there is like yeah, I think I'm just I think series just really shit because like Yeah, and like so sometimes more often not the only reason is cuz I'm walking Murph or something I'll say something to Murph like come here or like I'll believe that or whatever and

And it then says, oh, calling anything that sounded like what I just said. It doesn't give you a fucking moment. It starts calling. And it's like, whoa, what the fuck? Stop, stop, stop, stop. And it's like, you can't. And it's just like, it's just the fact that that...

The system is so flawed still that they're just using it on everything. I just don't get why. So my theory is, and you know how I said earlier about how it's a shame that they're firing people that are working on these systems because we want them to be better. Yeah. I think it's because they're preparing to just make AI do all of that. That's what I was going to say. I think it's just because they can't be bothered. They're just going to go wait until an AI model fits onto a voice model they've got and they just pop them out. That's exactly what I think. Google Bard is going to replace Google Home. Yeah, yeah. And I think...

Apple's coming up with their own AI thing. They just aren't ready to announce it yet. They wait for all the other companies to have their failings before Apple comes out with the, this is the one that you really wanted. They always do that. It's like, why haven't Apple come out with this yet? Although they have had some high profile failures recently. There's a couple of times where they've waited too long or the thing that they've eventually delivered actually wasn't that much better than what other people are doing. Their maps was awful.

Yeah, exactly. That's a very good example. It's so awful to the point where I won't even try it again because I'm not using it. And I think that's the same when games release and they're shit. That's such a huge stepping stone to like never playing that again or never trying that again. It's like, well, shit then, I've lost interest. Yeah. There's another alternative. If there was no alternative to Apple Maps, I would use Apple Maps. But like the fact that you use one and it takes you in a completely different direction to the other and it's longer and it's like, why did it do that? Yeah.

Is it better now? You use it now, right? It is better now. Okay. But it has failed me a couple of times recently actually saying that. But from the times that it has worked, it's worked just as well, if not better than Google Maps and it looks better too. Failing once is enough for you to just go back to the other thing that works all the time. Yeah, yeah. You've got an alternative. Google Maps is incredible. Yeah.

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the captains and all that you know they would always talk to the computer wouldn't they they would talk to it like star trek and stuff maybe that i think that's part of it i think i'm like i want to use it because it's yeah because it's cool but it's the full recognition of what you say it goes wrong so often for me that i just lost faith just because you're just very clearly chat gpt is really good yeah that's the thing i've tried speaking to that it's so good that it's just like why aren't they using that because that's they will yeah they will um

And they've got Scarlett Johansson to do the voice, which is pretty cool. Who? I haven't really. It sounds like her, though. Just, hey, Siri, order me Pitbull XL dick pills. Oh, no. There you go. Right. So I hope you're listening in the car or maybe you're listening in a car or out loud at home. Good luck with that. Yeah, nobody's using Siri. We're fine. Thanks, everybody. See you later. Thank you. See you next week. Bye. Enjoy Perth. Thanks, Perth.

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