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No.493 本期的嘉宾会造能上天的“飞机”,而我只会打……bug

2025/1/10
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专注于电动车和能源领域的播客主持人和内容创作者。
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主持人: 我对嘉宾从事飞机制造业感到惊讶,认为这是一个高端行业,但本质上也是制造业,只是不同类型的制造业。我好奇嘉宾是出于什么原因选择从事飞机制造业,是偶然还是有梦想?我关注中国制造业的现状,特别是民营企业如何生存和发展,以及一线工人的工作环境和待遇问题。 嘉宾: 我从事飞机重要单元的生产工作,并从82年就开始收听主持人的播客节目。我从事金属材料工作13年,专业背景是材料专业,现在行业发展比以前好。我选择专业和工作是偶然的,没有家人从事相关行业指导我。我从小在鄱阳湖附近长大,主要从事水稻种植,生活比较辛苦。我们家乡种植经济作物会额外收税,例如种植生姜大蒜会额外收取特产税。我22岁毕业后在江苏工作,最初在车间工作,后来做过班长。我了解钢铁厂的工作强度,需要三班倒,非常辛苦。我的工作是金属材料的淬炼,将钢加热到高温后再冷却,使其变强变硬。金属材料的成型工艺主要包括铸造、锻造和焊接,我从事的是精密铸造。我曾参与航空燃气轮机涡轮叶片的毛坯生产。高精度机床的加工也需要更精密的工具,是一个迭代的过程。我在第二份工作中与欧洲团队合作,提高了英语能力。我参与过设备的引进、安装、调试和验收,设备对于生产力至关重要。我在生产过程中曾接触过危险化学品,例如盐酸和氢氧化钾,需要注意安全。制造业很多公司为了进入资本市场,不追求利润,导致员工待遇不好。我在第三份工作中进入了一家上市公司,待遇有所提升。民营企业通过上市进入资本市场,才能更好地生存和发展。我职业生涯的前五年都在一线工作,后来转到办公室工作。我在上市公司工作后,回到初创公司担任车间主任,负责管理工作。一线工人工作辛苦,工资低,导致大学生不愿意从事该行业。只有进入资本市场才能赚到钱。我因为俄乌战争和领导的一些事情,离开了公司。我在2022年与主持人联系,并收听了他关于王景的故事。 嘉宾: 我在一家外企做采购工程师,但没有通过试用期。普通打工人的主要收入来源是工资,很少有额外收入。我在与销售人员的沟通中学习到了一些东西。作为采购员,与供应商对接需要一定的经验和人脉。在外企学习到物流、现金流和信息流的概念。在采购行业,需要脸皮厚一点,会吹牛。销售人员会根据情况调整自己的头衔,以达成交易。销售人员会两边沟通,以达成对双方都有利的交易。销售人员会根据情况调整自己的身份,以获得更好的合作机会。我现在的工做比较稳定,但工资是固定的。做销售的程序员收入很高,因为他们能签下大额订单。销售人员的消费观念与工程师不同。工程师擅长计算成本,而销售人员则更注重销售技巧。销售人员会创造需求,以促进销售。工程师的思维方式与销售人员不同,工程师更注重技术细节。工程师需要学习销售技巧,才能更好地发展。波音公司在飞机设计上比较激进,而空客公司则比较稳重。

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What is the guest's professional background and how long has he been working in the industry?

The guest has been working for 13 years in the aviation industry, specifically in the production of aircraft components. His professional background is in materials science, focusing on metal materials, which is one of the 'four major pit' disciplines (environmental, chemical, biological, and materials science).

What is the guest's experience with working in factories and what role did he initially take on?

The guest started his career in factories, initially working as a shift leader in a workshop. This role involved managing workers and handling heavy manual labor, which was physically demanding. He later transitioned to roles with less physical labor, such as process engineer and technical engineer.

What challenges did the guest face in the manufacturing industry, particularly in terms of profitability and competition?

The guest noted that the manufacturing industry is particularly challenging due to low profit margins and intense competition. Many companies aim to enter the capital market rather than relying solely on production profits. This often leads to smaller companies being squeezed out, as larger firms can afford to operate at a loss or break-even to dominate the market.

What is the guest's opinion on the role of sales in a company's success?

The guest believes that sales is one of the most critical roles in a company, often determining its success. He mentioned that sales professionals, especially those who can secure large orders, can earn significantly more than engineers or technical staff. He also noted that sales require a high level of adaptability and communication skills, which he found challenging when he briefly worked in a sales-related role.

What is the guest's view on the importance of entering the capital market for manufacturing companies?

The guest emphasized that entering the capital market is crucial for manufacturing companies to survive and thrive. He explained that companies that can access capital markets can leverage financial resources to outcompete smaller firms, even if their production operations are not highly profitable. This strategy allows them to scale and dominate the industry.

What is the guest's experience with working with foreign experts and how did it impact his career?

The guest worked with a team of foreign experts, primarily from Italy and Spain, during his second job. This experience helped him improve his English, particularly in writing emails and conducting conversations. He found the collaboration valuable and noted that it broadened his technical and professional skills.

What is the guest's perspective on the safety and challenges of working with hazardous materials in the manufacturing industry?

The guest highlighted the dangers of working with hazardous materials, such as hydrochloric acid and potassium hydroxide, which can cause severe injuries if mishandled. He shared a personal experience where he narrowly avoided serious harm when a chemical splashed on his face. This underscored the importance of safety protocols in the manufacturing environment.

What is the guest's opinion on the differences between military and commercial aviation requirements?

The guest explained that commercial aviation has much stricter requirements than military applications. While military products like missiles or rockets only need to function for a short period, commercial aircraft must endure tens of thousands of takeoffs and landings over several years. This makes the manufacturing and maintenance of commercial aircraft far more challenging.

What is the guest's view on the role of logistics in the global economy and its impact on industries like aviation?

The guest pointed out that logistics is a critical component of the global economy, accounting for a significant portion of GDP. He mentioned that even small improvements in logistics efficiency can lead to substantial cost savings, which is particularly important in industries like aviation where the supply chain is complex and involves numerous components.

What is the guest's recommendation for a band that reflects his cultural background?

The guest recommended a band called 'Jingdezhen Renaissance,' which is a small, independent band from Jingdezhen, China. He described their music as deeply rooted in local culture and language, and he finds their storytelling through music particularly compelling.

Chapters
本期访谈的嘉宾分享了他从农村走出来的经历,以及在航空航天领域13年的职业生涯。他详细讲述了在不同公司工作的经历、遇到的各种挑战以及从中获得的经验教训。
  • 嘉宾的职业背景是材料专业,从事飞机零部件生产工作。
  • 嘉宾在职业生涯早期曾在车间工作,担任过班长,积累了丰富的基层经验。
  • 嘉宾经历了从民营企业到上市公司再到外企的职业转变,对不同企业文化和管理模式有深刻的体会。
  • 嘉宾分享了他对中国制造业现状的看法,以及对职业发展的思考。

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