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313: Boe Hartman, Co-Founder & CTO of Nomi Health, on Transforming U.S. Healthcare with Real-Time Data, Innovation and AI

2024/12/2
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Boe Hartman: Boe Hartman讲述了他从高盛的数字银行领域转向医疗保健领域的经历,以及Nomi Health公司在应对新冠疫情期间所做的工作。他强调了实时数据分析、数字化转型以及人工智能在提高医疗保健效率和降低成本方面的作用。他分享了Nomi Health公司如何利用实时分析预测奥密克戎变异株的爆发,以及如何为15个州的1500万人提供新冠病毒检测服务。他还谈到了公司在发展过程中遇到的挑战,包括来自既有医疗机构的抵制和不实指控,以及如何克服这些挑战。最后,Boe Hartman展望了Nomi Health公司未来的发展方向,以及如何利用人工智能技术来改善支付完整性,提高客户体验,并最终降低美国的医疗成本。 Dan Turchin: Dan Turchin与Boe Hartman讨论了美国医疗保健系统中存在的问题,以及Nomi Health公司如何利用技术来解决这些问题。他强调了数据分析在降低医疗成本方面的作用,并谈到了联合国关于人工智能治理的政策框架。他还对Nomi Health公司在新冠疫情期间所做的工作表示赞赏,并对Boe Hartman在未来几年内实现其愿景表示乐观。 Dan Turchin: Dan Turchin 关注美国医疗保健系统长期存在的问题,以及 Nomi Health 如何通过技术创新来改善这一现状。他特别强调了数据分析在降低医疗成本和改善患者健康结果方面的作用。他还讨论了联合国关于人工智能治理的倡议,并指出美国在该领域落后于欧盟。此外,他还赞扬了 Nomi Health 在新冠疫情期间的贡献,并表达了对 Boe Hartman 未来目标的乐观态度。

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Why did Boe Hartman transition from Goldman Sachs to co-founding Nomi Health?

Boe Hartman transitioned to Nomi Health to address inefficiencies in the U.S. healthcare system, driven by his understanding of payments and technology. He was inspired by the realization that paying doctors directly could reduce costs by 30% to 50%, but the system was calcified and lacked digital efficiency. His personal and friends' healthcare stories further motivated him to make a difference.

How did Nomi Health respond to the COVID-19 pandemic?

Nomi Health quickly developed scalable, digital-first solutions for mass testing, including high-throughput labs, large testing locations, and digital engagement platforms. They provided real-time analytics to 15 states, enabling governors to make informed decisions. Nomi also built its own high-throughput labs and ensured PCR test results within 24 hours, significantly improving pandemic response efficiency.

What role did real-time data play in Nomi Health's COVID-19 response?

Real-time data allowed Nomi Health to provide governors with immediate insights into testing numbers, positive cases, and other critical metrics. This was a significant shift from traditional state data science teams, which took days or weeks to deliver insights. Real-time analytics enabled faster decision-making and better pandemic management.

What challenges did Nomi Health face during the pandemic?

Nomi Health faced challenges such as attacks from established healthcare companies, media criticism, and unpaid insurance claims. Despite delivering on contracts, some insurers refused to pay, which was unprecedented for Boe Hartman, given his banking background. Additionally, the company had to scale rapidly while managing massive amounts of personally identifiable information securely.

How does Nomi Health use AI today?

Nomi Health uses AI for co-pilots to analyze market situations, internal regulatory compliance through a custom LLM, and customer experience improvements. They also leverage AI for payment integrity, similar to fraud checks in banking, to ensure healthcare dollars are spent appropriately. AI is also used in cybersecurity, coding, and infrastructure development.

What is Nomi Health's vision for transforming U.S. healthcare?

Nomi Health aims to reduce U.S. healthcare costs by a trillion dollars by enabling real-time payments, fair market pricing, and data-driven decision-making. Their vision includes allowing patients to choose any provider without network constraints, reducing deductibles and copays, and improving access to care. They also focus on funding innovative treatments like GLP-1s and genetic solutions.

What impact did the COVID-19 pandemic have on the U.S. healthcare system?

The pandemic decimated the U.S. healthcare system, exposing its inefficiencies and breaking its back. Governors and CFOs had to confront rising healthcare costs and employee health issues directly. This crisis has led to increased openness among policymakers and industry leaders to adopt innovative solutions like those proposed by Nomi Health.

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Boe Hartman's journey from Goldman Sachs to co-founding Nomi Health, driven by a desire to address inefficiencies and improve access in the US healthcare system. His experience in finance and technology uniquely positioned him to tackle this challenge.
  • Boe Hartman's background in global tech and banking at firms like Capital One, Barclays, and Goldman Sachs.
  • His transition from Goldman Sachs to co-founding Nomi Health to tackle inefficiencies in the US healthcare system.
  • The pivotal role of technology and data in improving healthcare economics and accessibility.

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Boe Hartman is the co-founder and CTO of Nomi Health, a company dedicated to rebuilding the U.S. healthcare system. With nearly 30 years of global experience in technology and banking, Bo has held key roles at industry giants like Capital One, Barclays, and Goldman Sachs. At Goldman Sachs, he served as co-CIO and CTO of Consumer Technology, where he led the development of their credit card offering from the ground up and oversaw technology hiring. Prior to that, as CIO at Barclaycard, Boe managed the global technology infrastructure supporting billions of financial transactions. 

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The pivotal role of technology, data, and AI in transforming healthcare economics and accessibility for millions of Americans.
  • The future of healthcare, including AI-driven advancements in payment integrity, patient care, and predictive analytics for better decision-making.
  • Boe Hartman's transition from leading tech initiatives at Goldman Sachs to co-founding Nomi Health and tackling inefficiencies in the U.S. healthcare system.
  • The evolution of Nomi Health during the pandemic, including the rapid development of scalable, digital-first healthcare solutions.
  • How Nomi Health leveraged real-time analytics and innovative testing approaches to address the challenges of COVID-19 across 15 states.
  • The systemic inefficiencies in the U.S. healthcare system and how Nomi's approach aims to save a trillion dollars while improving patient outcomes.

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