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336: What Comes After Code? JAMstack, AI Agents, and the Open Web with Matt Biilmann, Netlify CEO

2025/5/19
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Matt Biilmann: 我认为未来会有更多由AI驱动的用户代理与网络互动,因此我们需要优化用户界面和代理体验,以便更好地服务于这些代表用户行动的代理。我们需要认真思考如何为这些代理构建用户界面,并提升它们在网络上的体验,从而更好地代表我们行事。这需要我们深入了解代理如何与网络互动,并设计出能够满足它们需求的界面和流程。 Dan Turchin: 我认为随着代理和空间计算的发展,网络本身可能会变得过时。未来的机器应该适应人类的工作方式。我们现在讨论的这个话题与今天的对话非常相关。所以,我们现在转向本周的精彩对话。

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Matt Biilmann is the CEO and co-founder of Netlify, a platform that has raised over $200M to reshape how websites are built and deployed. A key figure in the open source web development community, Matt helped popularize the JAMstack architecture to improve performance and streamline developer workflows. Before launching Netlify in 2014 with Christian Bach, he built several startups and earned a degree in Musicology from the University of Copenhagen.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • How Matt Biilmann coined the term “JAMstack”, and how it redefined the architecture of the modern web
  • The evolution of Netlify from a bootstrapped side project to a platform used by 6M+ developers
  • Why the future of web development includes designing not just for humans but also for AI agents, with a focus on Agent Experience (AX)
  • The rise of low-code creators and “vibe coders” who build sophisticated projects by prompting instead of programming
  • Why the open web matters more than ever in the age of AI, and what’s at stake in the battle between open and closed platforms
  • Matt’s reflections on leadership, delegation, and what still drives him after more than a decade of building tools that empower other builders

Resources:

  • Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work Newsletter)
  • Connect with Matt on LinkedIn)
  • Read the new blog from Matt: Biilmann Blog)
  • AI fun fact article)
  • On the future of automation in B2B sales)