Robert Sapolsky studied baboons in East Africa to understand the effects of stress on the body. Baboons are ideal subjects because they live in a highly stressful, hierarchical, and aggressive society, providing valuable data on stress-related behaviors and physiological responses.
After the tuberculosis outbreak, Sapolsky observed a significant increase in grooming behavior among the baboons, including adult males grooming each other—a rare occurrence in baboon societies. This marked a shift from their typically aggressive and hierarchical interactions.
The tuberculosis outbreak decimated the baboon troop, particularly the alpha males who had been feeding at the garbage dump. This led to a dramatic change in the troop's social dynamics, with increased grooming and reduced aggression, even as new males joined the group.
Sapolsky hypothesized that the absence of aggressive alpha males allowed females to take social risks, such as grooming new males early on. This shift in female behavior created a more peaceful culture, which new males adopted, unlearning their aggressive tendencies.
The baboon troop maintained its peaceful behavior for over 20 years, even as new males joined the group. This demonstrated that the cultural shift away from aggression was long-lasting and not just a temporary anomaly.
Sapolsky's study suggests that aggressive behavior, often assumed to be innate, can be unlearned and replaced with more cooperative and peaceful interactions. This challenges the notion that violence is an inevitable part of human nature and highlights the role of culture in shaping behavior.
We start this story off with a question. Are human beings innately violent?
Then we head to East Africa with Stanford neuroscientist Robert Sapolsky), who spent his summers studying wild baboons there. Baboons are a textbook example of a hierarchical, male-dominated, and aggressive society. But one day, Sapolsky noticed that a troop of baboons became unexpectedly gentle. They deviated from the usual aggressiveness so characteristic of them and groomed each other. The key question was how do these guys unlearn their entire childhood culture of aggression, something supposedly built-in? Sapolsky tells us that tale — a moment he describes as one of the best science moments of his life.
For more: Read Robert Sapolsky’s account) of his 21 years studying baboons in Kenya.
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