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(Preview) What AI Could Mean for Aggregation Theory, o3 and Moore’s Law, More Questions Than Answers as Tech Enters 2025

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Jeremy: 本期节目讨论了Doug O'Loughlin关于聚合理论时代结束的观点，以及OpenAI的o3模型的架构。Jeremy质疑o3模型是否为真正的突破，还是对现有模型的改进。他还讨论了超大规模企业商业模式中边际成本为零的时代即将结束，未来将更加复杂且计算密集型。 Ben: Ben对聚合理论时代结束的观点持保留态度，他认为新的技术是在旧技术的基础上发展起来的，而不是简单的取代。他认为，将聚合理论视为技术增长的主要驱动力即将结束的说法是合理的，但这对于他来说是一个令人兴奋的转变。他认为OpenAI的o1和o3模型的成功并非简单的算法改进，而是技术进步的体现。他将摩尔定律的进步比作一个持续的曲线，即使在某个方向遇到瓶颈，也可以通过改变改进方向来继续进步。他认为OpenAI的o1模型的突破在于，它证明了通过增加计算时间可以提高模型的答案质量，而不是仅仅依赖于更大的模型和更多的数据。他还认为，我们正从一个信息相对统一的时代转向一个信息更加分散和多元的时代，这与媒体环境的变化类似。在决策方面，他认为过度依赖专家意见是一个错误，因为政治决策需要权衡多方面的因素，专家意见不能代替政治决策。他认为，在过去，技术决策相对容易，因为通常是投入尽可能多的资源，但现在需要更谨慎的权衡。 Ben: Ben 认为新的时代是在旧时代的基础上构建的，而不是简单的取代。他并不认为聚合理论完全过时，新的技术往往是在旧技术的基础上发展起来的，而不是完全取代旧技术。他认为将聚合理论视为技术增长的主要驱动力即将结束的说法是合理的，但这对他来说是一个令人兴奋的转变，因为这预示着新的增长驱动力出现。他认为OpenAI的o1和o3模型的成功并非简单的算法改进，而是技术进步的体现。他将摩尔定律的进步比作一个持续的曲线，即使在某个方向遇到瓶颈，也可以通过改变改进方向来继续进步。他认为OpenAI的o1模型的突破在于，它证明了通过增加计算时间可以提高模型的答案质量，而不是仅仅依赖于更大的模型和更多的数据。他还认为，我们正从一个信息相对统一的时代转向一个信息更加分散和多元的时代，这与媒体环境的变化类似。在决策方面，他认为过度依赖专家意见是一个错误，因为政治决策需要权衡多方面的因素，专家意见不能代替政治决策。他认为，在过去，技术决策相对容易，因为通常是投入尽可能多的资源，但现在需要更谨慎的权衡。

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Why is the era of aggregation theory considered to be behind us according to Doug O'Loughlin?

Doug O'Loughlin argues that the era of aggregation theory is behind us due to the rise of AI, which reintroduces marginal costs to software businesses. This shift challenges the zero marginal cost model that underpinned hyperscalers' business models, making technology more expensive and compute-intensive.

What is the significance of OpenAI's o3 model in the context of AI architecture?

OpenAI's o3 model represents a shift in AI architecture, where the model spends more compute time to deliver better answers. This approach contrasts with earlier models that relied solely on scaling up the model size and data. The o3 model demonstrates that inference-time scaling can significantly improve performance, marking a new direction in AI development.

How does the concept of inference-time scaling relate to Moore's Law?

Inference-time scaling in AI is analogous to Moore's Law in semiconductors, where progress is achieved by focusing on different vectors of improvement over time. Just as Moore's Law evolved through advancements in lithography, metallurgy, and transistor design, AI scaling is now shifting from model size to optimizing compute usage during inference, enabling better performance without solely relying on larger models.

What challenges do hyperscalers face with the rise of AI and compute-intensive technologies?

Hyperscalers face challenges as AI reintroduces marginal costs to their previously zero marginal cost business models. The increased compute requirements for AI workloads make technology more expensive, forcing hyperscalers to adapt their infrastructure and business strategies to remain competitive in a more compute-intensive future.

Why does Ben Thompson find the shift away from aggregation theory exciting?

Ben Thompson finds the shift away from aggregation theory exciting because it re-energizes the tech landscape. He views the dominance of aggregation theory as having become stagnant, with antitrust issues being the primary focus. The rise of AI and other disruptive technologies offers new growth drivers and opportunities for innovation, moving beyond the limitations of the aggregation era.

What broader societal analogy does Ben Thompson draw regarding the shift in AI and technology?

Ben Thompson draws an analogy between the shift in AI and technology and the post-World War II media consensus. Just as society moved from a narrow, centralized set of facts to a more fragmented and diverse media landscape, AI is driving a similar transformation in technology. This shift challenges existing paradigms and requires new ways of thinking about trade-offs and decision-making.

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This chapter explores Doug O'Loughlin's claim that aggregation theory is outdated due to the rising marginal costs of AI and the shift towards more compute-intensive technologies. The discussion also touches upon the architecture of OpenAI's o3 model and whether it represents a true breakthrough or merely a clever workaround.
  • Doug O'Loughlin declared the end of the aggregation theory era due to compute costs in AI.
  • Hyperscalers' business models rely on zero marginal costs, which are challenged by rising AI compute costs.
  • OpenAI's o3 model is discussed, questioning if it's a new architecture or a sophisticated workaround.

Shownotes Transcript

Ben and Andrew return from the holidays to check in on the AI landscape. Topics include: Aggregation Theory and the return of marginal costs for hyperscalers, the architecture of OpenAI’s o3 model, the murky future for software engineers and SaaS companies, and whether Scarlett Johansson fumbled the bag. At the end: In praise of learning to ski as a middle-aged beginner.

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