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Women's Patience/Patients & Hippocratic Medicine w/ Dr Christie Vogler (Part 2)

2025/3/14
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Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! Greek & Roman Mythology Retold
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Liv: 本期节目探讨女性健康史，特别是希波克拉底医学对女性健康的影响。希波克拉底医学是西方医学的基石，但它存在严重的男性中心主义问题，导致女性健康问题被忽视。西方社会对传统结构的执着阻碍了创新和进步。希波克拉底医学基于女性是‘错误的男性’这一观念，导致女性在医疗体系中边缘化。美国黑人女性在分娩中的死亡率远高于白人女性，反映了医疗体系中的种族歧视。多样性、公平性和包容性（DEI）计划的初衷是为了纠正白人主导的招聘体系中的不公。现代医学研究中缺乏对女性慢性病的数据和研究，阻碍了诊断、治疗和预防的进展。特朗普政府取消DEI计划，将对医疗研究中的多样性和包容性产生负面影响。大学关闭性别研究和美国研究等课程，将对未来的医疗研究和教育产生负面影响。学习简化的历史知识比完全不了解历史要好得多。 Dr. Christie Vogler: 希波克拉底医学是西方医学的基石，但我在讨论中可能过于简化了其负面影响。古代希腊医学由于对人体解剖的禁忌，导致了对女性身体的误解，如‘子宫游走’理论。女性选择进入希波克拉底医学体系，可能是因为她们希望从内部改变这一体系。希波克拉底医学认为性交和怀孕是治疗女性疾病的有效方法，这种逻辑令人震惊。古代妇科医学强化了精英男性和国家的利益，将女性健康问题与生育利益捆绑在一起。古代医生重视病人对医生的顺从和忍耐，尤其是女性病人。美国妇科医学的发展是通过对黑人女性的非人化实验实现的。‘病人’一词源于拉丁语‘patiens’，意为‘忍受痛苦的人’，这反映了病人对医生的顺从和忍耐。Agnodike的故事反映了女性在古代医学中的艰难处境。父权制的核心是男性对子宫和女性身体的恐惧。女性在选择医生时，往往会优先考虑女性医生。许多女性仍然认为月经是女性健康的必要条件。现代女性健康问题仍然依赖于民间医学，反映了现代医学在女性健康领域的不足。民间医学知识是女性在压迫中寻求自主权的一种方式。Agnodike的故事反映了女性在古代医学中的权威。古代女性医生在治疗男性病人时，面临着社会和文化上的巨大压力。古代病人和他们的家庭在医疗决策中拥有一定的自主权。Mildred Graves的故事展示了黑人女性在医疗体系中的艰难处境。女性医生在展示‘男性化’特质时，更容易被接受为权威。女性医生在展示‘贞洁’特质时，更容易被视为专业医生。许多女性医生在获得自由后，选择离开她们曾经服务的家庭。希波克拉底医学中的女性身体缺陷观念一直延续到中世纪。希波克拉底誓言中的堕胎禁令在罗诉韦德案中被引用。早期职业学者缺乏时间和资源来研究女性和其他边缘化群体的医疗经验。

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TW! Horrors of Women's/Female Health. Liv speaks with Dr Christie Vogler about the long and storied and utterly infuriating ancient history of women's medicine in the West. Check out Christie's podcast, Movies We Dig), now part of the Memory Collective) podcast network! Submit your question for the next Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions) and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby)

Recommended reading and sources: Cleghorn, Elinor. 2022. Unwell Women: A Journey Through Medicine and Myth in a Man-made World; Cooper Owens, Deirdre. 2018. *Medical Bondage: Race, Gender, and the Origins of American Gynecology; *Draycott, Jane. 2021. *Roman Domestic Medical Practice in Central Italy: From the Middle Republic to the Early Empire; *Joshel, Sandra R. 1992. Work, Identity, and Legal Status at Rome: A Study of the Occupational Inscriptions; Mulder, Tara. 2016. “The Hippocratic Oath in Roe v. Wade | by Tara Mulder).” EIDOLON; Nutton, Vivian. 2013. Ancient Medicine; Ripat, Pauline. 2016. “Roman Women, Wise Women, and Witches).”; “Roe v. Wade | 410 U.S. 113 (1973)).”; Stanley Spaeth, Barbette. 2014. “From Goddess to Hag: The Greek and the Roman Witch in Classical Literature.” In Daughters of Hecate: Women and Magic in the Ancient World, edited by Kimberly B. Stratton and Dayna S. Kalleres; Upson-Saia, Kristi, Heidi Marx, and Jared Secord. 2023. Medicine, Health, and Healing in the Ancient Mediterranean (500 BCE–600 CE): A Sourcebook; Woods, Robert. 2007. “Ancient and Early Modern Mortality: Experience and Understanding).” The Economic History Review 60.

CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.

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