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The Progressive Regulator Winning Over the Populist Right

2025/6/19
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Lina Khan: 作为一种哲学和框架，反垄断对不受约束的经济权力集中持怀疑态度，这类似于政治领域的制衡。正如我们推翻君主制以维护核心自由一样，我们也必须保护自己免受贸易专制者的侵害。市场结构并非必然，而是法律、规则和政策选择的结果。减少市场竞争会导致企业滥用权力，损害消费者、工人和小企业，最终导致人们感到不自由。当市场被少数不受竞争或规则约束的公司主导时，会出现各种问题，这些公司可能会进行胁迫和滥用。不受约束的企业权力是人们日常生活中面临的许多问题的根源，反垄断只是其中一种政策工具。垄断力量导致在位者不受竞争约束，产品质量下降，价格上涨，不积极服务客户或与工人竞争，并影响了经济的弹性。 Lina Khan: 经济和政治并非截然对立，人们在经济上的体验会影响他们的政治立场和能动性。垄断力量通过多种方式影响政治，包括在选举和政治体系中发挥过大的作用。大型企业在华盛顿特区的影响力过大，扭曲了决策者对经济问题的理解。大型公司利用其影响力来反对州和地方政策。大型企业，包括大型科技公司，威胁要离开某些国家，如果这些国家通过法律，为公民提供更多保护。当政府和公众对单一公司的依赖程度过高时，这些公司可以发号施令，对公众和政府产生负面影响。

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Is the key to freedom a life without Amazon? This week, Ross talks to Lina Khan, former Chair of the Federal Trade Commission about how unchecked corporate power has limited choice in our day-to-day lives, and how her fight against Big Tech unites left and right.

  • 02:41 - What’s wrong with big business?
  • 09:27 - The political costs of corporate consolidation
  • 11:39 - How the 2008 financial crisis shaped Lina Khan's philosophy
  • 17:49 - The antitrust consensus from Reagan to Obama
  • 21:54 - How the left and right align against big business 
  • 26:12 - Khan's wins and losses at the FTC 
  • 36:53 - Is the Trump administration embracing or rejecting Khan's vision?
  • 42:32 - Is anti-monopoly policy the solution to our economic problems?
  • 48:38 - Can Big Tech be broken up?

*(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) *

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