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Trump’s Future Depends on His Immigration Crackdown

2025/6/12
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Matthew Continetti: 我认为理解特朗普需要考察他所建立的联盟的构成。这个联盟包括科技右派、对外交政策不满的民主党人以及少数族裔工人阶级选民。马斯克与科技右派有交集，但也跨越了其他类别，他曾对左派友好，后转向右派。马斯克与科技右派共享对科技进步的愿景，并认为拜登政府对科技监管过于严厉，同时关注西方社会被“觉醒意识”腐蚀的问题。在右翼的旅程中，马斯克确实开始关注联邦赤字和债务问题。Doge体现了马斯克的自由意志主义背景和创业历史，他试图将联邦政府视为自己的企业。 Ross Douthat: 马斯克在华盛顿特区花费大量时间谈论预算赤字，听起来像茶党成员。科技右派希望联邦政府在科技、科研和国防等领域积极投入。加密货币、人工智能监管和觉醒意识是科技右派核心人物世界观的中心。马斯克在华盛顿特区听起来像新当选的茶党国会议员，这表明右翼政治具有惊人的韧性。

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This chapter analyzes Elon Musk's involvement in the Republican party, highlighting his shift from left-leaning views to a more conservative stance. It explores the composition of Trump's coalition and questions the future of the 'tech right' after Musk's departure from his advisory role.
  • Elon Musk's shift from left to right-leaning views.
  • Composition of Trump's coalition: tech right, disaffected Democrats, minority working-class voters.
  • Musk's focus on deregulation, technological progress, and opposition to 'woke ideology'.
  • Uncertainty about the future of the 'tech right' after Musk's departure.

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Has immigration become the new litmus test for the Republican Party? In this episode, Ross talks to Matthew Continetti, the author of “The Right: The Hundred-Year War for American Conservatism,” about the party’s shifting coalition, the defining role of immigration and how today’s right echoes its past.

  • 01:50 - What the Elon experiment (and fallout) tells us about the Republican Party
  • 06:55 - Is there a tech right beyond DOGE?
  • 10:09 - Is the “new right” really all that new?
  • 18:16 - Where Trump’s agenda fits within the larger conservative story
  • 25:16 - “Immigration is the biggest issue of our time”
  • 28:39 - How border control will define conservatism around the world
  • 34:05 - Is Silicon Valley out of step with Trump's immigration crackdown?
  • 39:43 - Will Trump's ideas outlast Trump?

*(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) *

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