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Why Trump’s Blood-and-Guts Strategy Worked

2025/7/3
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Ross Douthat: 在特朗普胜选后，我试图理解他如何将共和党转变为一个更蓝领和多元种族的联盟。我和 Raihan Salam 曾写书倡导共和党进行这种转型，我们曾试图为共和党设想一个新的未来，但最终特朗普实现了我们的预言。我们都以不同的角度看待保守主义，但都与运动保守主义保持一定的距离。当时华盛顿特区几乎所有的写作和辩论都是关于外交政策的，我们试图通过关注较少人关注的国内政策来开辟一个不同的领域。 Raihan Salam: 很高兴能与你一起参加播客。在每个关键的政治时刻，我们都会互相交流。我知道在选举结果揭晓后，Ross Douthat 会和我一起思考。我们都以不同的角度看待保守主义，但都与运动保守主义保持一定的距离。我们对谁能成为这个联盟的代表有一些古怪的想法，我们提出了一个关于特朗普总统候选人资格的极具吸引力的愿景，必须要有阶级突破和文化突破。

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Happy Independence Day! We’ll be back next week with a new episode, but today we’re sharing the episode that started us on the path to “Interesting Times.” Ross Douthat talks to Reihan Salam, the president of the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research. Together they wrote the book “Grand New Party: How Republicans Can Win the Working Class and Save the American Dream).”

They review their George W. Bush-era prescriptions for the Republican Party to reclaim the working-class vote and the ways they were right (and wrong) about building a new Republican majority.

  • 03:47 George W. Bush era
  • 12:06 Rise and fall of the Tea Party
  • 18:19 Trump’s 2016 “blood and guts” message
  • 28:11 Trump’s effect on the right and left
  • 35:48 Trump’s first term economic agenda
  • 39:30 Elon Musk vs JD Vance
  • 46:50 Imagining an activist, conservative government

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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