Breaking Down the Best Food Lyrics in Music
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Hey, what's that one lyric where Biggie Smalls eats a really balanced breakfast? Oh, I know this one. It's T-bone steak, eggs, cheese, and Welch's grape. Hey, you gotta get your protein in early, you know? This is a hot dog in a sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What?

Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the show where we break down the world's biggest food debates. I'm your host, Yashar. And I'm your host, Nicole Inaydi. And today we are talking about the greatest food lyrics in the history of music. And we probably said the winner in the intro. That's right. I don't know how you can beat that. I do love it when you call me Big Papa.

And I'm okay with it if that's your thing. I wouldn't necessarily request it, but I totally understand, and I'll play along for the time being. How was my Biggie Smalls impersonation on Skillet? Can you do more? Yeah, but it's really embarrassing because I used to have an ex that would, I used to recite this one lyric, and he'd be like, wow, that sounds so much like it. Can you call my friends and pretend you're Biggie Smalls? And I'm like, yeah!

Yeah, of course. Such a people pleaser. That feels like such a mid-2000s thing to do. Such. You know, that feels like a moment in time where you would send people to the Sandstorm by Darude hotline. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a number you could call and it would just play the song Sandstorm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, doing that, calling people, sounding like an artist. That was the height of...

like commute radio shows. This was like six years ago though. Okay. I thought this was a lot. I thought this was like 2012.

You know, where like crews in the morning on Power 106 would have like the prank call shows. Oh my gosh. You know, that felt like an era. I grew up on Ryan's Roses personally. I was a Kevin and Bean kid. Is this interesting to you? Kevin and Bean. International audience. Was that 106.7? 106.7 KROQ. Wow. Kevin and Bean, dude. KROQ, man. Roddy on the rock. So we're going to be talking about the

The greatest food lyrics in music Why? Because honestly I love music And Josh loves music too But we could not be more different In the types of music that we like Yes Josh likes what I like to call Hard to listen rock

Not hard rock. Hard to listen to rock. That is a pretty good descriptor. Hard, not very good. Well, some of it's good. Some of it, so, you know, through osmosis, being friends with Josh for about five and a half years, I have learned to, like, accept the music he listens to, not necessarily love it, but I understand the music he listens to and why he listens to it so much.

Yeah, I would call it acerbic in a way. Acerbic? And I did Google what acerbic means. Sharply or bitingly critical or ironic in temper, mood, or tone. It's a kind of like, you know what I mean? And I have actually picked five of my favorite songs with food lyrics here. And like you said, a lot of these are going to be songs that maybe people haven't heard of, but they are ones that are very special songs.

To me. Okay. And I don't know if I could consider them the greatest. I have one, and the shirt that I'm wearing is probably a clue as to what I think the single greatest food lyric in the history of music is. I'm going to take a guess. Yeah. Is it about pizza toppings? It is indeed about pizza toppings, but it's about so much more. Okay.

Enlighten us, us being the viewers and listeners. Do you want me to get into it? Why not? You're watching my tirade? All right, we're doing it. If you want, sure. So I'm wearing a Serge Tonkian shirt, lead singer of System of a Down, had an incredible solo career as well. But this is the song Chicken Stew off of their third studio album called Steal This Album. Okay. And...

It starts off, Darren Malakian, right? He comes in on the intro. Ball games in the refrigerator. Door is closed. Lights are out. Butter's getting hard. But then Serge and Darren come in and they say, what a splendid pie. Pizza, pizza, pie. Every minute, every second. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. What a splendid pie. Pizza, pizza, pie. Pepperoni and green peppers, mushrooms, olives, chives. Pepperoni and green peppers, mushrooms, olives, chives.

Need therapy, therapy, advertising causes need... Anyways, the thing that I love about this lyric, do you have any idea what it's kind of saying? I've never heard the song the whole way through. Well, so there aren't many lyrics. It literally just says, what a splendid pie, pizza, pizza pie, every minute, every second, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, and then need therapy, therapy, advertising causes need therapy.

And that's the entire song with a very heavy guitar lick. I'm just more upset that they have chives as a pizza topping because I don't think I would like chives on my pizza. And that's all I got to say about that. So I actually got to ask Search Tonki and why he included chives. And he just said he thought it sounded nice. It kind of rhymes with bye. What is it? What are the toppings? Pepperoni and green peppers, mushrooms, olives, chives. That's it.

Pepperoni, yin green peppers, mushrooms, olives, chives. That works, actually. 100%. That's just a veggie pizza. We love veggie pizza. But there was no more appropriate pizza topping. That slant rhymed with the word buy within the song. You know, you couldn't, I don't know, throw on...

soprasada at the end there. Trying to think of foods that rhyme with buy. But the reason I love this lyric, right, is like they're talking about the idea that just mass market consumer advertising flooding the airwaves constantly, which this is a big topic of conversation in the 90s as well, that kind of cable TV brain rot.

of just Domino's and Pizza Hut just throwing advertisements at you constantly. This feeling of it being completely overwhelming of people telling you to buy things. There's a new triple threat pizza box where you get the brownie and the pizza and you can get the double pepperoni and if you buy three pizzas with three toppings you get that for the price of two pizzas with two toppings and download the Domino's app. Domino's Pizza Tracker was, you know, almost coming out around this time. But like,

The idea that they're just screaming the names of pizza toppings at you in the way that advertising feels, right? In the heavy guitar licks, it's almost like a sound poem. It invokes this feeling in you of being completely overwhelmed and saturated, as we often are, and also using food as a literal, like, consumable product. Right. Right? Something that you're just shoving in your gullet. It kind of invokes this, like, hyper-gluttonous feeling.

towards the way that we consume everything, I think this is the greatest food lyric of all time. So you mean to tell me capitalism? Yeah, well, yeah. That's what a lot of System of a Down songs were about. Well, it is called Steal This Album. It's literally called Steal This Album. It sure is. Yeah, I get it. I just wish there was more.

No, but I think that is, there are some songs that you listen to the lyrics and you're effectively reading it as a spoken word poem. The lyrics are very meaningful. I agree with that. But I think what I love about music is like the general soundscape, the tone, all of it conveys something more than words could ever convey. I agree. And the feeling of listening to the song Chicken Stew-

Is the same feeling that you get of being completely just overwhelmed and consumed by advertisements in a way. Interesting, interesting. Of this just, you know, beautiful, long-locked Armenian man screaming pizza toppings in your face. While Shavo Dejan's bass is going, you know, chugging in the background. My question is what, so it's just advertising? It's about advertising and capitalism and just being inundated with that 24-7?

Yeah. Yeah. And then the rest of their work goes into, of course, like the military industrial complex. They do talk about that a lot. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. They sure do. Yeah. A lot of Armenian sovereignty as well. But I think this is more, unless this is about the many lovely Armenia owned pizza joints in the valley. I was going to say.

And there really are. Maybe this is just in that. Maybe I'm misreading the song. Maybe he's just hungry and they were craving that pizza from the Armenian pizza places. One of my favorite things in LA is you go to a place called like Tony's Roma Deli in like North Hollywood. And they always have like khachapuri. And there'll be khachapuri. They'll call it like gondola pizza or breakfast pizza. Oh my God, it's so good. Oh my God, it's the best. Khachapuri is the best. God, I love the valley so much. They should have made a song about khachapuri. Oh,

Oh, we can ask him. Serge, if you would make a song about Khachapuri or Ajarski, as it might be more commonly called in Armenia. That's right. I think we'd be a happier people. I think so. Yeah. Bring the band back together. The first single off the new album. So I'm not going to talk about my favorite lyrics. I'm just talking about lyrics that really mean a lot to me. Okay. So I don't know why, but for me, rap music and like hip hop music is my favorite way to consume. Okay.

like rap food like music lyrics about food I don't know why I think for me it's also like the imagery of it all and for me whenever like I first started listening to like rap music and stuff like that of course I like knew about the West Coast stuff but for some reason because I watch VH1 so much like

I learned about rap music from like, and like hip hop music from like, you know, the song like The Breaks by Curtis Blow and like Sugar Hill Gang. Yeah. And stuff like that. It's like, hey, today we're going to talk about this and talk about that. A hip hop. A hip hop to the hip hop. Exactly. And for me to this day, the first song I heard where I was like, oh, this guy's telling a story through food is the Sugar Hill Gang.

Where they talk about going to someone's house and having a horrible meal. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, I've never heard this. So first of all, the Rapper's Delight Sugar Hill Gang song is so long. It's maybe like a 12 to 13 minute song. No, is it? It's long. It's long. Here, I'll Google it. And this is my favorite story ever.

Ever told, okay? But imagine like I'm a cute like It's 14 minutes and 37 seconds. It's one of the longest hip hop songs of all time. And the last stanza pretty much is where this guy's like

to his friend's house and he's like the food just isn't good but let me explain ever went over to a friend's house see the food just ain't no good I mean the macaroni soggy the peas are mush and the chicken tastes like wood oh my god I have heard this so you try to play it off like you think you can by saying that you're full and your friend says mama he's just being polite he ain't finished uh uh that's bull uh

And your friend says, man, there's plenty of food. So you plow some more on your plate. And while that stinky food's steaming and your mind starts dreaming of the moment it's time to leave, and you look on your plate and your chicken's slowly rotting into something that looks like cheese. Also, this is the first time I heard what kaopeptate was. Like, you know, the medication? And I literally googled it and I'm like, what is this? Wait, what does he rhyme kaopeptate with? So you bust on the door. This is...

And so you bust on the door while it's still closed, still sick from the food you ate, and then you run to the store for a quick relief from a bottle of kaopectate. Wait, sick from the food you ate? Food you ate. Rhyming with kaopectate. Kaopectate.

Listen, that's quality. But something about this, like the chicken tastes like wood. Like I think we've all had this experience of going to our friend's house where the mom just doesn't know how to throw down in the kitchen. But you try to be polite and you still eat the food. And something about it just...

Every time this plays in my head, I just start laughing and smiling because it's so specific. And we've all had that experience growing up where someone's mom just doesn't know what she's doing. But you try to be polite and try to be kind and eat the meal. And then you feel sick afterwards. And I just love that the first ever like hip hop rap song to ever come out has that in there. You know what I mean? It's just so silly to me. 1979. That's right. The Sugar Hill Gang. So that's one of my favorites of all time.

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I love listening to like early hip-hop because they just, when it was just a couple dudes doing it, there wasn't, it was so revolutionary at the time, but there wasn't that bar of like, you know, everything has to actually be good and make sense. It just has to exist. It just has to exist, which is incredible. And this, you see this in any art form in any sport. You watch basketball videos from the 1950s. They're just running around. They're just bouncing a ball around. Slap the ball. But...

We were talking about there's a line. It's not a food line, but that we've heard in multiple old school songs. I think I heard Be Real from Cypress Hill say it the first time, but it's just a tisket, a tasket, you know I had to blast you. And I'm like, what do you mean a tisket, a tasket, you know I had to blast you? None of that even rhymes. Yeah.

And Cypress Hill is probably my favorite rap group in history. I love them. Shout out. They made a lot of their music in Burbank as well. But I was listening to it and I was like, man, you just couldn't get away with those lyrics today. You couldn't get away with talking about how the chicken tastes like wood. I know. It's just so funny and just so – it's like –

funny and it's campy but during that time like true like storytelling was was so funny and easy and light and it's just so enjoyable yeah it's just an enjoyable and the and the beat is so like fun and jumpy you know it's just fun it's just it's just a good time for me I have Nicole I know you think I'm like a one genre pony no I never said that I just said your music is hard to listen to I listened to some hip-hop

As well, I sure do. No, one of my favorite food lyrics in any song. And actually, it taught me a recipe, which is what I love. Shut up. Do you know what I'm about to talk about? No, no, no. I'm trying to sneak, but I can't see. Do you know? Okay, so it's a rapper. Okay. And if I said he's from Kansas City...

Would you know who that is? Give me more context. A little bit of a horrorcore rapper. Oh my gosh. He is Tim Tech 9, baby. Are you going to talk about Caribou Lou? Caribou Lou. This is...

This man taught me how to make a delicious cocktail. This is hilarious. That would be filled with 151 rum, pineapple juice, and Malibu caribou. Get them all numb. Make baby girl come out of her shell and raise hell. Don't stop till the cops come. But then, so that's the chorus, right? And then he comes in with the first verse and he just is like, I did not specify any actual quantities. So now iTech9 will give you that. Wow.

He says half a bottle of 151 off in a jug, one cup of Malibu rum. So half a bottle of 151, one that's going to be highly – going to be a very high ABV cocktail. Bacardi, yeah. Bacardi 151. They have, I believe, stopped making that. Or maybe they just made it illegal in California. Let's write – let's change.org.

A half a bottle. So it's going to be about a three to two ratio of 151 rum with Malibu. And so Malibu is going to give you some of the coconut aromatics, some sweetness going in there. So funny. And then you just fill the rest of the jug with pineapple juice and it's cracking. Was this a song that the kids would sing out?

What? Is this a kid song that like kids would sing at parties? Yeah. No. So this was. There was another song. Colt 45. I've been to zigzag. Baby, that's all we need. We can go to the park after dark. Smoke that tumbleweed. When the marijuana burns, we can take our turn singing them dirty rap songs. Just stop and hit the bong. Make Tijan Chong. Selling tapes from here to Hong Kong.

It was similar. Is this not Tech N9ne? No, that was Afro Man. Oh, I always... That was Afro Man out of Palmdale. Josh loves Afro Man. Yeah, there's... Yeah, we won't get into the demographic politics of it all, but I'll tell you what, a lot of white people love Afro Man. Can I tell you something? And Tech N9ne. I don't know how it happened, but I was at a party singing 151 Run. You know, I never... People love this song, too. They would sing this at parties, too, like from the top of their lungs. I'm just like, hee-hee-ha.

Like, I have no idea what's going on. I went to a Tech N9ne concert one time. Yeah. And I had to leave early. That's all I'm going to say. I had to leave early. Get the party jumping. Keep the hotties humping. I like them thick and juicy, so don't Pilates nothing. I love that. Body positive. They were talking about Pilates? How awful.

How long ago is this? Might be karate puncher at the back of the club attending the naughty luncheon. When did this song come out? They were talking about Pilates bodies. What? 1995. I can't believe it. He was anti-Pilates princess in 1995. That's so funny. That's hilarious. Yeah, I love this. Fill the rest of the jug with pineapple juice and it's crack. And the only defect is waking up like, what happened? And I...

If you are drinking Caribou Lou, I was once at a craft cocktail bar in New Orleans. And I was talking with a dude who had a drink that had an overproof rum and a coconut shrub and a pineapple tincture or something. Yeah. And I was like...

is this an artisanal play on caribou loo? And he just went, I can't believe you called that out right now. Yes, it is. Oh my gosh. Was he obsessed with it? Yeah. Yeah. And so yeah, caribou loo is a fun handshake to people who know.

That's awesome. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. Look at me not only listening. I'm not genre-phobic. No, you're not genre-phobic. I never would ever consider you genre-phobic. Okay. So another one of my favorites. Again, I'm sorry. I'm a little bit of a one-trick pony right now, but that's fine. I don't care. There's this one song called Ham and Eggs by a tribe called Quest.

I don't think you've ever heard it. Okay, so am I allowed to sing it? I'm going to sing it. We're allowed to sing? It goes, I don't eat no ham and eggs because they're high in cholesterol. Hey, Fife, do you eat them? Nuh-uh. Do you eat them? Uh-uh. Not at all. Again, it's this sing-songy, silly storytelling that just something about it just makes my brain go into like ultimate like joy mode. And I'm convinced the reason why they say, I don't think it's because they're high in cholesterol.

I think the reason why they don't eat it is because two out of the four to five members of a tribe called Quez are devout Muslims. Oh, really? Q-tip, raised Muslim, Ali Shaid Mohammed, Muslim. One of those names sounds— Q-tip. There's no right way to sound Muslim. Right? But one of those, if you were to guess which one out of Q-tip and— They're both Muslim. Yeah, yeah. Oh, if I were to guess. Probably Ali Shaid.

Yeah, the one that ends in Muhammad, typically. So they were raised Muslim in New York, and they're not the only people that have talked about not eating any pork. Nicki Minaj also says, As-salamu alaykum, no pork for me.

Ice Cube has it in his song too where he says Mama cooked the breakfast with no hog. Also, he was raised Muslim as well. Which I just think it's great how they're just like I'm gonna say it's because of cholesterol but I don't think that's the only reason why. That's awesome storytelling. Yeah, I know. There's also something about like specifically in was the song just called Good Day by Cube? We're gonna have a good day. What?

No, gotta say it was a good day? Oh, today was a good day. Today was a good day. No, no, good day. I know what you're talking about. It was a good day anyways. And that one, somebody actually was able to triangulate what exact day he was talking about. No way. There's the line where he talks about the Lakers beat the Supersonics. Oh. Which is one. Which actually happened?

Well, yeah. Who were the Supersonics? Oh, I was about to say, there's a great podcast about the Seattle Supersonics. They were a Seattle NBA team. Kevin Durant was actually drafted to the Seattle Supersonics. I know exactly who that is. Right? But then, this is, God, I couldn't remember what year, 2006 or whatever, maybe slightly later, they moved to Oklahoma City and became the Oklahoma City Thunder. And now Seattle has not had an NBA team since. It's kind of a bummer. Sean Kemp, Gary Payton. Seattle Seahawks? An NBA team. What sport do you think the Seattle Seahawks play?

This is a judgment-free zone. I just want you to answer... I think they play football. They do play football. And I was talking about basketball. Because I said the Lakers beat the Supersonics, and the Lakers play...

Basketball. Basketball. There it is. LeBron James. She knows. The Seattle Seahawks. You know what we need to start doing? I think we need to just, like, have, like, conglomerates. Like, screw the Clippers. Screw the Rams. It should just be the LA Lakers basketball to shit. Or, like...

You think they should merge both the L.A. Clippers and the L.A. Lakers into one team and just be the L.A. Basketball Club? Yeah, but we'll call them like West L.A. Lakers, East L.A. Clippers, or the other way around. Okay. And then also the football team should also be called the Lakers.

Oh, I mean, that's kind of what they do in Europe. Okay, well, yeah. There will be like a Real Madrid basketball team and a Real Madrid football club. So you mean to tell me I'm a trendsetter? Well, no, you're just copying what Europe has been doing for like probably hundreds of years, I can imagine. Okay, some people call it appropriation. I just call it trendsetting. So, yeah, nothing.

That's another one. Ham and Eggs by Tribe Called Quest. Fantastic song. Also another one of those storytelling songs where they talk about fricking... They talk about roti. They talk about soursop. They talk about asparagus. They talk about steak. And I just love that song so much. Yeah, yeah. Man, I need to listen to more Tribe. This is a great intro song to them. That's like one of my favorites. Okay, so this...

I think they're very easy to listen to. I think they're a fantastic band. I've seen them. I've seen them live and they're incredible. I don't know how much I've played for you in the kitchen, but this is the band Bloodywood.

out of India. Oh, the Indian hardcore music you love. The Indian metal band. They're like a new metal band from India. I love Bloody Wood so much. You've seen me wear the t-shirt before, but they just came out with an album called New Delhi and there's a single on it called Darka. Oh, sick. Tell the people what Darka is. So Darka is an Indian cooking technique where you are effectively like

you're blooming the spices in hot oil or ghee, but you basically like heat up oil or ghee super hot and then you add whatever like curry leaves, coriander seed, jeera, which is cumin, black mustard, whatever, some chili pods probably, and then you will kind of like scorch them and you...

put that, like, on the food. And it's just this incredible flavor bloom. It's like a beautiful world cooking technique. But they came out with a song called Tarka that, like, uses a bunch of food metaphors. We ride at dawn. The blades are drawn. The battle is on. The stove is lit. We chop the bits. You know it's only second nature. We're making the flavor hit. Oh, that's cool. It is great. And then...

Hey!

So it's actually like a really beautiful song. And there, you know, a lot of heavy music is super political. And, you know, they're talking about, you know, people who are out there pulling the trigger. It's because they don't know if they're going to eat dinner that night. And, you know, this idea of sharing food and taking care of people's needs and the love of a mother coming through. The first time I recognized what love in cooking meant.

was my best friend Deep's mom's cooking, right? Like straight out of Gujarat, India. That's beautiful. Literally the amount of labor that goes into making something like a tarka, right? That goes into making so many like Indian sweets. It was that like real feeling of caring about someone.

And then they just got sick guitar breakdowns and rapping, and they're just a rad band, dude. That's awesome. Shout out to all the guys from Bloodywood. That's a fantastic visual story. Yeah, right? That instantly takes you where the artist is. They did a bunch of promo shoots wearing, like, chef gear, too, but also still in the metal outfits. That's so nerdy. Oh, metal is also the nerdiest thing. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I feel like watching movies growing up, you see the metalheads, and they're the ones that are, like— The burnouts.

Yeah, but they're also kind of like tough and dangerous. And scary. And scary, right? I don't know that I've ever felt that way at like a metal show. Yeah. It's always like, oh, that person's running a D&D campaign. Yeah. 100%. Yeah, I believe that. Music brings people together just like food does. Yeah, who's Cannibal Corpse's lead singer? I think his name is just George Corpsegrinder. Yeah.

But just the sweetest man in the world. And he's just a huge nerd, plays D&D, big and wild. Is Corpsegrinder his father's last name or is that a personal? Just an Ellis Island name. They're like, my name's Schwartstein. And they're just like, they're changing it to Corpsegrinder. Do you want to talk about what you think Biggie Smalls was eating? His real name's Fisher, by the way. Oh, okay, great, great.

Do you want to talk about what Biggie Smalls was really eating in Big Papa? I would love to. Because there has been many a debate about, well, the meal is a T-bone. Let me go ahead and say the full lyric. Pull up the truck, front and roll up the next blunt so we can steam on the way to the telly to go fill my belly. A T-bone steak, cheese, eggs, and Welch's grape.

Now, there has been many a debate about what the Welch's grape is. There are three schools of thought. We got juice. We got jelly. We got soda. Some people like to call this quote-unquote grape candy.

Grape gate. Yeah, it was one of those things that was on message boards, like Last.fm and Pitchfork and stuff like that. People were like, he was definitely talking about the jelly. His friend said that he always had a little side of jelly every single time. Jelly would make the most sense. If you're getting steak and eggs, then you will probably have a side of toast. Right. And even if it were a diner. But you know what the problem is? He doesn't mention toast in his... Is the toast implied? Maybe he was cutting carbs that day. You think...

Notorious B.I.G. I don't know what Notorious B.I.G. I know he was a large man. He might have cut carbs. We don't know. I'm sorry. Talk about how much toast that you know Biggie Smalls is eating at breakfast, Nicole. Wait, wait, wait. Like rye or sourdough. No, no, wait a second. Wait a second. But see, the thing is, I think he was cooking this up at home. I don't think...

Oh, so he says, so we can steam on the way. Smoke. Shmur. Oh, that's what that meant. Okay. To the telly, go fill my belly. So I think what he's doing is his lovely lady is probably cooking him up this meal so he can eat it in front of his television. That's very sweet. Yeah. But do you think, you think it's jelly?

I think it's juice. No, no, I don't think it's jelly. I think it's juice. You think it's juice? I do think it's juice, yeah. Okay, why? He just seems like a guy who likes to drink a big glass of grape juice. It feels kind of luxurious in a way. But not soda? Not soda, because I think juice pairs better with breakfast foods. When I first heard this, and I heard Welch's Grape, I probably first heard this song when I was a child. Right, me too. I envisioned soda, because I didn't grow up drinking juice. Is there Welch's Grape soda? Yes. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Pretty quality stuff as well. I thought it was just drink.

No, no, no. They got a nice canned grape soda. I didn't know that. But now I believe it's juice. And I haven't read a lot of evidence. Are there compelling cases to indicate that it's juice? There's a few. Okay, so writer Thambisa Mshaka says...

She, I'm sorry, writer Dhamisha Meshaka says they shared a meal with the late rapper only a few days before his untimely passing. And he had grape juice along with his eggs. And a business vet named Larry Hawk Burns said he would call in room service and order juice all of the time. And Questlove, you know, the Roots band leader, he also strongly states that he was a juice man. But for me, is it juice? Yes.

It is juice. Because let me tell you, because he wouldn't be smoking up blunt. Perp. The color of the juice as well. Yes. Yes, I'm familiar with the perp. I don't think he would be rolling up a bleezy at 10 a.m. Why not? I think because he was pulling up the truck. He was driving. I don't think he was the kind of guy that woke up at 6 a.m. to go chase the day, do a little morning routine, stick his face in ice water. I think you're making a lot of assumptions about Biggie Small's morning routine here. I don't think Biggie Small.

I think Biggie Smalls was up around 7 a.m. You don't think he was journaling? I don't think he was a big journaler. Well, he was a writer. He was, yeah. That's what I'm saying. But I don't think, I think he was eating this around like 11.45. A little brunch situation, if you will, after he did some of his very important work he had to do in the morning. Yes. He came home hungry.

Filled up on steak, eggs, and I think juice is the right answer. Juice. It feels nourishing and nutritive. Also, dude, a cold-ass glass of Concord grape juice is such a treat, man. Big grape juice guy over here. Big grape flavor. Grape soda is maybe my favorite soda.

Hard. Someone needs to make a zero calorie grape soda out there. My favorite soda is Cactus Cooler. But I'm not rapping about Cactus Cooler. I haven't had one of those in years. Also, someone that says jelly says the unsaid jelly rhymes with telly and belly. Whoa. Yeah. Wait, say it again. So we can steam on the way to the telly. Go fill my belly. A T-bone steak, egg cheese and Welch's grape jelly.

Oh my god. Yeah, that's gotta be it though, right? I know the rhyme comes from steak, cheese, eggs, and Welch's grape. Yeah, but like, I mean, he was known for a lot of like crazy rhyme cadences. You know what I think? I think he had Welch's grape apostrophe as well as jelly.

Okay, the fact, though, that this lyric has been argued about for so long, this is unequivocally the greatest rap lyric regarding food all time. Maybe one of the best rap lyrics of all time. I will say Lil Wayne, real Gs move in silence like lasagna. The G is not silent in lasagna. You say lasagna? No, I don't. But take out the G and just say L-A-S-A-N-A. What does that say? Lasagna. No, it's not. Lasagna. Lasagna. The G is not silent. It's a modifying...

Okay. No, it's not silent. It's an Italian letter. But that said, listen, listen. Love Wayne. It's a great line. A thing we haven't talked about is MF Doom's whole album. Oh, well, yeah. Food. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. And all of his, he had like one mixtape. Actually, I was listening to it today about like all the different roots and stuff. He has like a song called like Ginseng and like Peach and stuff like that. Is that the same one? MF Doom, man. R.I.P. He's a polymath. Beef wrap, hoe cakes, deep fried friends, poop putt platter, filet-o-rapper. He's got a song called Gumbo. Yeah. I have one more honorable mention. This is the toughest song.

to listen to. This is Pizza by Attila. You already had a pizza one. You're going to do another pizza one? I know, I know, but this is, you know what you are, a pizza poser. F you. I've never seen you eat a slice. To you, it's just a trend. Pizza is my life. Thin crust, deep dish, double pepperoni, Elio stuffed crust, no anchovies, pizza rolls, bagel bites, cheesy crust is what I like.

But then, oh, I got drunk with Papa John. He snorted something with his apron on. We're going to get so flogged. He got too effed up for delivery. It was over 30 minutes, so my pizza was free.

But then there's a great breakdown where they say, dude, are you effing kidding me? Pineapple on the whole effing pizza. And then he says effing pineapple and then just goes into this hardcore growl breakdown where they talk about how pineapple doesn't belong in pizza. So for those reasons, I think Pizza by Attila also needs to be. We can play the song on full blast after this.

This isn't my favorite, but these are my honorable mentions. I love when rappers talk about their cars and how they are like food. Like... Go on. Like, whatever that one guy 2 Chainz says in Mercy. Sorry, I'm going to talk about a Kanye West song. Where he talks about coop the color of mayonnaise. I've never heard that, though. Drunk and high at the same time, drinking champagne on an airplane. Oh my gosh. How about whatever... Are you going to bring up ice cream paint job? No.

I was. I was giving up ice cream paint job. And then also. That's not a food lyric. Ice cream paint job. The paint job is like ice cream. That is a food. It was a food metaphor. Yeah. And then also. Like, Biggie Smalls was eating that. You know what I mean? My favorite of all time. Do you know the song Doughboy Fresh? Doughboy. There's this one. I don't know who says it, but he says, peanut butter inside, outside, jelly. And to this day.

The visual imagery of a car that the interior is this really cool peanut butter color. The outside is like this bright, shiny jelly. To this day, I can literally see that car in my head. That's what he was talking about? Yeah, what did you think? I was talking about a damn sandwich. I just never thought about it. Sorry, I'm the...

I'm the whitest man on the planet. Long story short, we just really wanted to talk about the songs we like on this podcast. Because here's the thing is, I like Fish and Grits and all that pimp SHI double hockey sticks. So if you like Fish and Grits and all that, everybody let me hear you say, oh yeah, yeah. So the final, no, we need to leave them on the final line of the song Pizza by Attila. Oh, I hate that song. No one will hear me out. No, I'm going to peel your eyes out of your effing skull. I will extract your blood and use it as pizza sauce. Gross.

Well, that's because they say dude chill you can peel off the pineapple so he threatens to peel his anyways I had a blast can we do this again? Alrighty Nicole heard what you and I have to say and what Biggie Smalls had to say Now it's time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the universe. It's time for a little segment we call Opinions are like casseroles You know what lyric of Biggie Smalls I really like? It's when he goes have sex on rugs that's Persian and I'm like

Persian! Representation. Representation matters. And he talks about putting someone in a basement. Does Drake have any Persian lyrics? Because I feel like in my experience, 95% of Drake fans are Persian. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't think that's a global statistic. I'm saying people in my life. Yeah, yeah, I know. There's this song called Persian Rugs that is by, I believe, Party Next Door. Okay. Let me just make sure. Persian Rugs, yes, by Party Next Door. And Party Next Door is a common collaborator with Drake. Interesting. You are not wrong, but you're not right either. Yeah. Now, Drake, has he been sort of adopted as an honorary Persian? No.

He's got a great lineup on the beard, you know? I can neither confirm nor deny. Okay. But I do love Kendrick Lamar as well as Drake. I like both of them. They are both very talented musicians, and I am very honored to live in a timeline where both of them can thrive and exist within the plane of hip-hop and rap music. How lucky are we? No, I will say I vastly prefer the musical stylings of Kendrick Lamar. Okay. Yes. I like both. They're different. They're different. Yes. They're very different artists. Very. They're not like a...

Crank that first opinion up. Crank that soldier boy opinion. I will never get used to that message. Nor I. Why? Less of an opinion, more of looking for a recommendation. Happy to give it. My name's Rob from Michigan. Hi, Rob. I have to eat a low-sodium diet due to genetic blood pressure issues. Ugh, tell me about it, stud. What kind of seasoning you guys would recommend beyond salt?

I got you. Keeping in mind, I've tried the Tony Fashery's low sodium. Oh, there goes my option. And I definitely like all the brown sugar in it. Thanks. You ever heard of Mrs. Dash? Is that actually good, though? You ever heard of Mrs. Dash? We all grew up with Mrs. Dash low sodium. Does it actually taste good? It does the job. Well, the problem is, Josh, we don't have the highest of sodiums. Do you have high sodium? Oh.

Oh, I don't know. I eat a lot of sodium. I'll tell you what. When's the last time you got a comprehensive blood panel? Every, about a year ago. I'm due for it. I'm getting again. Let's get another one. Yeah, Julia made me do it. Let's get another one. Yeah, when me and Julia moved in together, she treated it like whenever an NFL team trades for like a 34-year-old player. I love her. They're like, well, let's wait for when the MRIs come back, you know, because we need to know what we're really getting into. I support it. Did you also do a genetic test?

No, no, not yet. But I think this happened when the Lakers tried to trade for, was it Derek Williams, I think? And he just like failed the physical and then the trade didn't go through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the Lakers had to bring on Dalton Connect, the guy that they were going to trade for him. Yeah, yeah. And so this guy didn't even know he was going to get traded. I'm telling you, I respect her decision.

Try Mrs. Dash, bestie It's good, what do you mean? Of course it's good It's fine, I think what you need to do is Your health is more important than your taste buds Saying yay, I'm so happy You're gonna have to weigh the pros and cons here And not have the most delicious food of all time And that's okay, you know For me, whenever you get health scares like that Something needs to trigger in your brain To tell you like Okay, I need to put my pleasures aside a little bit And concentrate on my health

Sure. And that's just me. The tough thing is straight up from a culinary perspective is there's no substitute for salt, right? Like you can... There isn't. If somebody was like, I'm on a low-carb diet, low-fat diet, I have these allergies, I can't eat this stuff, it'd be easy to find a substitute. Sodium is salt. It is, yeah. Like sodium, it's... What is it? Nacl. Sodium chloride is table salt, right? I think so. It's like a very isolated mineral. So like...

I don't know. If you add more acid to your food, it'll probably, you know, make it taste more palatable. But that's not like a long-term solution. I think you just got to rough it. MSG has lower sodium content than your standard table salt. You know, so maybe that could help. But I don't know.

And it makes sense that Tony Chachere's low-sodium would have brown sugar because it's like, well, you've got to substitute one good taste for another. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that is a really tough pickle, and I'm wondering if anybody else has any advice because I rue the day that I would have to do that.

Hey, guys, you're on speaker and my fiance has never heard your message before and she's looking at me like, who the fuck are you calling? You don't have to play this one on the podcast. You can make it like a short or something, but we're watching, what's it called? Wild Card Kitchen and Damaris overturned her ice cream like two times in a row. What?

And I'm wondering, can you take overturned ice cream and put it in the microwave until it's just barely melted and then run that same mixture again? Like, would that work? Yeah.

I don't know. Let me know. Interesting. What is the show that this person's in? Wild Card Kitchen, hosted by Eric Adjepong. Eric Adjepong, he was on Top Chef probably seven, eight years ago. But yeah, Eric Adjepong is lovely. And Damaris Phillips, I believe, won one of the earlier seasons of Next Food Network Star. She is just a bright light. Love it. Love Damaris so much. I think she's from Louisville, Kentucky. Overturned Ice Cream.

I don't know if I've ever had that problem. I've never had that problem. But obviously any overturned dairy, like if you overwhip whipped cream, you're sort of just getting the butter. Yeah. And so I imagine ice cream would do the same thing, which means that you cannot simply melt it because it's fundamentally changed the protein structure. Right. Because you're doing kind of like the butter solids in the way, right? Yeah. So almost like cheese making. So my initial thing was, oh, yeah, if you just strain it. Because if it...

The thing is, does the overturned liquid, is that still considered ice cream because of the fat content? Or does that turn into... Because what I'm thinking is overturned ice cream is like ice cream with just some grit because of the butter solids and like maybe the milk solids just acting weird. So what I would do is I would melt it down

strain it, and then do it again. But if you use a creme anglaise base, I wouldn't. I would just start... No, you know, I'd just start over from scratch. Well, is overturned ice cream, does that actually refer to ice cream that has been churned like butter? Because I don't know if that would... I don't know. ...happen, especially if you're using other... Because you typically don't just...

Ice cream isn't just like heavy cream and sugar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You might use a custard base. You could also just thin it out with other milk. I think Jenny's uses like cornstarch and cream cheese as a binder in some of their bases. Oh, really? Yeah. To be honest, I don't make enough ice cream to judge this properly. So if your ice cream is just like overturned in the machine and it's sort of like stopped moving and it's clumping up a little bit, which means that large ice crystals have formed, that could be a thing. And I've done that before. Yeah.

Then in that case, you, yeah, you could just melt it down and re-spin it and stop it earlier. But make sure to strain it.

Honestly, what I would do, I think a lot of people, I don't know if they overuse strainers. Dude, Vitamix's, they solve a lot of problems. You could take that ice cream. What I would do with overturned ice cream, especially in a cooking competition format, is I would chuck it into a Vitamix. And like not a food processor because a food processor takes too much time. It's going to heat it up too much. Put it in a Vitamix. Vitamix heats it up. So what do you mean? Vitamix is used to make soup. What are you talking about? No, I agree with that, but I'm saying it works quick and violent.

So like a Vitamix, you could just take the tamper and just mash it down, crank it on high for 10 seconds. I think you're wrong. Pop it in a blast chiller. I think you're wrong because the speed of the Vitamix is so fast it would overheat it. I would actually completely disagree with what you said and I would put it in a food processor and pulse it.

But I feel like then you're not going to get it smooth. You're going to kind of... But then I would strain it. But see, I'm team strain. But then you're straining it. You're still just adding more agitation. It's open in the air. I think I can put that in a Vitamix for 10 seconds. We should test it. You know? And then pop that in a blast chiller. Or check this out. What you do is you melt it down. You take out the anti-griddle.

You put it on the anti-griddle. Oh, anti-griddle. That is such a food comp. Can we buy an anti-griddle? Anti-griddle. For anybody that doesn't know. How much is an anti-griddle? It's, imagine, you know, a griddle is hot. Make pancakes on it. $1,400. Anti-griddle. It's cold. It's a griddle that's cold. It's what Cold Stone Creamer uses, basically. I want it. I want it. I want it. Can you buy it? So you take the ice cream base, spread it thin on an anti-griddle, and then you do the tie-rolled ice cream technique. I want one. Where you chip it up using, like, a paint chipper. My birthday's coming up. May 28th. Yeah, I'll get you an anti-griddle. Okay, will you? No.

I love that it sparks such a lively debate. We're going to go old school. We're searching the hashtag opinion casserole over here. And I found one that I like. Okay, say it. This is from at Ariel Vale. As an omnivore, I've had better vegan chili than meat-filled chili. Oh, yeah? I think that's fake. I sent you the Instagram that you never responded to.

That's not like me. I know. Josh, that's not like me. But then I confronted you about it. I'm not like that. I'm not like that. We all make mistakes, but it was about the man. I believe it was a Barstool podcast that was reading the story or had a caller about a man who convinced his cousin who was weirdly obsessed with things being woke or not that adding beans to chili was woke and then got him to remove beans from his chili and then told him that, hey, I was just messing around. But that went into the kind of history of vegetarian chilies

being a huge option. And when you're vegetarian, you're woke. And when you're vegetarian, you're woke. That was the joke that he was making on his cousin. But that said, I've also had a lot of great vegan chilies because... I've had some good ones. Vegans have had a lot of chance to cook chili because it's such a great way to get a lot of beans in your diet. But now with the meat substitutes...

Putting some impossible meat into a chili. Just soy. It's great, man. Just soy and cream. And I'm a soy boy. Just soy and yeast extract. I think soy is actually really healthy for you. I love soy. I eat a lot of soy. You eat a bunch of edamame? I love soy. That's a great time. Soy and all of its, you know, it's whatever. I eat a lot of tofu. I think we've destroyed cows' entire genetic makeup by force-feeding them soy. And chickens. Yeah, not meant to be eating all that, but we did it. We forsaked our God. But, yeah, I think vegan chili is...

It can be really good. I don't like vegan chili. Depends what kind of chili. I like, you know what? You know what? I think somebody needs to do a vegetarian chili cook-off and an only one. And maybe that way I can like it more and I can eat it more. I'm throwing my hat in the ring. Okay. I once did on my blog culinarybrodown.com. Your nose is really red today. Thank you. Are you okay? I got a lot of sun yesterday.

On culinarybrodown.com, I did a whole vegan month. You did? Yeah. And I made a like Beyond Meat Impossible. I think it was even before Beyond came out. It was like I've ground up a bunch of Morningstar burgers. And I made a hot dog slop chili. And I wanted to prove that you can make vegan food unhealthy. And so I made like a vegan bacon wrapped vegan hot dogs with hot dog slop chili. And it was so good. Was there any vegan cheese on there? No. Oh, why? Vegan cheese tastes bad. Oh.

Yeah. Hot take. Well, that's my take. Anyways, on that note, thank you so much for stopping by.

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