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Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich. I'm your host, Josh Ayer. And I'm your host, Nicole Iannitti. And today we're doing the whole thing like Randy Newman. You're my best friend and I'm a puppet or a toy in a little boy's closet. Short people got no reason. Do you know short people?
You haven't heard that? It's literally talking about how short people have no reason to live. What? I believe it's a parody. Is he tall? Well, I don't know. I think it was... Can you go... Okay, okay, okay. Hear me out. Go ahead. Just Google Randy Newman height. Randy Newman height. Height of Randy Newman. He's six foot. He's also... He probably has a lot of disdain for short people. Randy Newman. Now, he did the score for several movies. Toy Story. Toy Story.
Hey, Dan, it's Gary for today. Sorry. We're in a silly little mood right now, and that is because we are doing a very special episode where we are only going to be listening to your opinions. Because you matter. You do matter. Matter. And in the words of Tom Wamsgans, we here for you. And to make a tomlet, you gotta make a few gags.
So that's it. We're going to crack open some Opinions of Lake Casseroles after we crack open a few Greggs. It's time. It's time for a segment we call Opinions of Lake Casseroles. What was that, Maggie? Was that clean? Was that clean? We talked about Randy Newman.
That's what was on the script. They said to ad-lib about Randy Newman. And then make a couple Tom Wamsgans references. Tom Wamsgans. Tom Wamsgans. Good show. Good show. Hi, Josh and Nicole and whatever guests you have. And, of course, Maggie. Wait, Maggie, can you pause this? My name is Kyle. It's important. So Kiernan Shipka just got cast for Industry Season 4. Okay. Yeah.
Never seen season one through three. You haven't watched Industry? It's the closest thing we have to Succession. No, but you know what I have seen about Kiernan Shipka? I follow something about teeth. I follow a dentist, like an oral surgeon. And it follows their veneers journey. Their journey of celebrities with their veneers. And Kiernan Shipka was one of the... I believe, is Kiernan Shipka who I think they are?
Yeah, I mean, she was in Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. She was the daughter in Mad Men. Big local foodie. Yeah, veneers. It's like, oh, see, this is what I'm talking about. Yeah. Veneer check. So industry. I'm on veneer check talk. It's like skins meet succession. Skins? And industry is the best show. English skins? English skins, yeah, and this is an English show. UK skins! So what do you think English means? English means UK. Yeah.
There's two kinds of skins. No, there's American skins and then English skins or UK skins. Well, what did I say? You said English or UK. England is in the UK. Surely, Nicole, you must know this.
Maggie, play the opinion. I'm so sorry. I had to talk about Kieran and Shipka being cast in season four. We have to scrub that whole thing and start from the beginning. Why? Because we went on too many tangy-tans. I don't think we did. I think that's what people want. We talked about industry. We talked about veneers. We talked about Nicole is dumb. I was just trying to talk about Kieran and Shipka for once. You never let me talk about Kieran and Shipka. You know how this show goes, man. Yeah, okay. Well, we can get back on track. Just play the opinion.
Hi, Josh and Nicole and whatever guests you have. And of course, Maggie. My name is Kayan, like the chili pepper. And I'm here with my son. Go ahead. Okay. And we are excited to talk to you. And we have to tell you about a new recipe that Sammy has come up with. It's delicious. He's a recipe maker. Why don't you tell them what's in it, hon? Sour patches, bunny patches, and cake pasties.
You heard it right. You heard it right. Sour Patch Bunnies and Kit Kat cereal. It's like a trail mix when you're on the go. You need that sugar spike. And Sammy has got the recipe for you. Thanks again, Sam. He's going to first grade next year. Woo-hoo!
I want one. I want one. Sour Patch Bunnies? No, I want a little first grader. I know, but I want like a fully sprouted one. No, that's not how it works. I know, I don't want to go through all the stuff where they're like a houseplant, the poops.
That's the most important part. What do you mean? How can you love something? Wait, hold on. How the frick do you expect to love something if you don't? Well, to be fair, adoption, you know, that's something. So maybe I'm going to totally rescind what I was going to say because it was about to be really wrong and really weird. So I'm not going to say it. That's messed up. This is about Kyan and Sammy. Kyan and Sammy.
Love it. We were both feverishly Googling Sour Patch Kids bunnies. I've never heard of these. We've never heard of these before, so we're like, what are these? Sammy, you're a tastemaker. You're putting us on. Sammy, that sounds really good, and I would like for you to send me a handcrafted baggie of the following so I could taste all the ratios of how you do it so I do it right later. Yeah, Kit Kat cereal is a delay, and I will say we will eat any unsealed food that people send to us.
Me specifically. I'm the taste tester and I eat it first and then I give it to Josh because I'm like his poison taster and if I get sick and die, it's okay because in the line of succession, I brought it back. It doesn't matter, but you got to keep the king safe over here. And sometimes a Swedish tech billionaire played by one of the Skarsgårds is trying to buy the king. It'd be nice. If we can pivot this back really quick to Sour Patch Kids Bunnies.
Feels like a lateral move. Are you seeing these? I never heard of them. They appear to be mostly just Sour Patch Kids. Well, maybe it's about... Maybe it's not always about, like...
you know, like changing things. Sure. Maybe it's just it was Easter time or the spring time and they got these like special and maybe Sammy just really likes the shape of these more. Oh, this is, Sammy can do no wrong to be clear. It's like Peeps. It's like Peeps. It's like Peeps are, like Peeps bunnies. Peeps are vastly different. Peeps bunnies versus Peeps peeps. Those eat differently though. That's what I'm saying. They're not that different. The Peeps bunnies and the chicks, well, they eat very differently. They're not that different. But I'm saying these Sour Patch Bunnies, they're almost the exact same shape and dimensions as the Peeps bunnies.
So what? You want like a good innovation in the gummy industry. We're talking about trolley eggs. I've never had trolley. Trolley? You've never had trolley? You think saying it in a not-doubt accent would make me know what it is? Trolley. I don't even know if it's a German company. Never had trolley eggs. That's a great gummy candy. But it looks like something I would love because it's kind of ombre. Yeah, beautiful gem tones. I love ombre. And the gummy is kind of coated in a candy shell. I'm into that. Before we get to the next opinion, Kieran Shipka, great in a movie called Sweethearts.
I'm off that track. I don't like Nicole's attitude about Kiernan Shipka. All right, Maggie Matthews. Well, you better get used to it. Hey, Josh and Nicole. I love the podcast. Quick question. Yeah, what's up? If the coffee is served to you with soy milk,
and vanilla in it. No, it's the three bean soup. It's not. Is it a three bean soup? Calm down. No. Calm down. Calm down. Calm down. You're being silly. You know what you're being? You know what you're being? You're being a little sinker. This is what's called a bad faith argument. It's, yeah, in a court of law, like you can't, you need to come with like a referendum and opposing counsel. Yeah. So, okay. So, so check this. So you're like on the college campuses when you have the people with like the sign that just says debate me. Yeah.
They're not there to have a good faith argument. You're not here. You're not here. You're not here to talk about three bean soups. No, no, no. You know what's a three bean soup I like? A pasta fagiola. A pasta fagiola. Now that you put three beans in a pasta fagiola, that's a good three bean soup. That's a good three bean soup. Because here's the thing. Vanilla, they're called beans, but it's actually just the seed pod of a flower. It's a pod. Right? Coffee is also not a bean. I believe it's the seed of a fruit. It's a berry. Coffee berry. Yeah, yeah.
And then you have soy, which is also not a bean. Soy is what? Like a pulse, but it's a commodity crop. It's certainly not a bean. Yeah. Arguably, ma'am, if I can call you that, you have made a zero bean soup.
You've made a zero bean soup. You've made a nice vegan latte. Enjoy it. I hope you do enjoy it. And I really want that right now. I was just about to say, I would love that right now. Can we like order that to come? Do you think if we order, because it's a short podcast, do you think if we order it on Postmates and by the time the podcast is done, it'll come to us? Well, here's the thing. I don't, I was thinking about getting coffee. It sounds nice because I need a little caffeine hit. It's getting a little late in the day. Don't want to wait for Starbucks. But what I do have is I got about 55 hour energy shots.
That's 50, 5-hour energy shots, not 55-hour energy shots. Do any of them taste like coffee? Absolutely not. No, but they taste like citric acid and blue raspberry. That's a good time. We'll drink some of those. My tongue is so blue right now. Me too. Your tongue was blue yesterday. Why are you eating so many blue candies? I've been eating a lot of blue candy. Why? It tastes real good. My tongue was blue yesterday. God, I'm so embarrassing. Okay.
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Yeah, that voicemail is kind of crazy. Yeah, got a question for Josh and Nicole. I'm having a debate with my sister. Stop it! I'm wondering, do you think that ordering a takeout soda or water at a restaurant is a little classless if you've been dining in? My sister doesn't seem to think so, but I can't help but cringe every time she does it.
What were you unbuttoning your blouse Don't you know? No, it looks like you're hiding hickeys
Oh, I haven't had one of those. Zipped up the turtleneck. In a long time. What was the question? Okay, so his sister will go to a restaurant, and I'm assuming it's a type of sit-down restaurant where they may even have, like, refillable drinks. Let's just say Chili's. What?
Well, no, no, no, no, because I want to reframe this because I don't want to say Chili's. I want to say like a mom and pop's version of. Okay. Like an individually owned, like there's a place called Stonefire Grill. Habanero's. Yeah, Habanero's Cantina. Habanero's Cantina, great, okay, okay. And they serve, they get the big plastic cups. They're not quite glass, but they're the nice hard plastic cups. They're glass click. They're glastic, yeah. Glastic. And you're getting free refills all night, and then say you're...
I don't know, maybe all the way done with your drink, you'll go, hey, can I get a refill? And then say, can I take this to go? That's fine. Whenever I get a sparkling water at a restaurant, I leave with the bottle. You're just walking the bottle out of the restaurant? Yeah, is that bad?
I think it's... Is that classless? Well, it's interesting because I think if it's a free refill, I think then it feels like you're gilding the lily. No, no. If it's a free refill, take it. But you paid for the whole bottle. Yeah, I paid for the whole bottle. If it's a bottle of sparkling water. You should take that. Yes, I should take that. But I feel like if they're giving you free refills on sodas and you... Okay, how about this?
If you have a soda and you finish one soda and then you get a free refill of another soda and you drink that one to 50% capacity, you can ask to take it to go. Well, that appears to be what a sister's doing. I like what your sister's doing. You need to chill. Your sister's on the right side of history.
I would never go out to eat with my sister again. You don't have a sister. If they were doing that. My brother. If my brother did that, I would flat out refuse. Why? I'd be utterly mortified. What's the problem? I think... I don't know. Maybe I need to look internally. If this was my wife...
I would be fine with it because that's... Saving you guys money? No, it's saving... It's like a chance to enact empathy that I would reserve for my romantic partner but not for my family. Oh. You know, be like, hey, I understand that we have key differences about things but we have made...
to walk through life as a team. I'm not going to agree with everything you do. You're not going to agree with everything I do. But we must learn to respect and love each other, not in spite of that, but because of that. But if it's my brother, no, dude, get the hell out of here. No, I don't think it's
I don't think it's a problem. Show some class. What are you doing? What do you mean show some class? Taking a quarter cup of Diet Pepsi to go, making a waiter go put that back into a cup. What's the problem? That's weird. If you're thirsty, go to a 7-Eleven on the walk of your car. Are you kidding me? You mean to tell me this person spent... Josh, this person paid $179 for that and endless refills? What?
You know how hard it is for restaurants to survive now? These places aren't getting rich. Okay, $2.75. But mom and pop restaurant isn't getting rich. That's what they need to control their margins. Wait a second. You mean to tell me that you would tell your brother to put down his diet, Dr. Pepper, that he spent money on to purchase?
to go to a 7-Eleven to go get the same amount of money for one... Well, I think you should be satisfied with the amount of Diet Dr. Pepper that he drank at the restaurant. Well, you're not the arbiter of people's comfort levels, Josh. That's not your job. Yeah, and if it was my wife saying that, I would go, you agree, baby. I love you so much. And if it's my brother, I'm going to say, you weird piece of crap. Put it back.
I agree with your sister. I think your sister's doing all the right things. I know it's a little bit mortifying. Like, it's whenever, like, my mom and dad would take, like, salt and pepper packages, knowing good and well that we have plenty of salt and pepper at home. It's the same thing. I have a drawer full of so many soy sauce packets, too many soy sauce packets that I get from to-go places, okay? I have, like, three bottles of soy sauce in my house at any given time. It's the same exact concept. Why do you have so many bottles of soy sauce? I'm thirsty. Okay.
I don't know. I have like, I have a shoyu. I have like a fancy shoyu. I have a regular kikkoman and then I have a low sodium one for the low sodium folks in my family because I care. I have three bottles of soy sauce. I know. I have a fancy one that I stole from work. Yes. And I have a light and I have a dark. Okay. So what is the problem? Nothing. Yeah, I guess. No, take it. It's like you're my mirror. Whoa. Mirror staring back at me. Get it? Oh, I don't know the reference. I'm sorry. What is it? What's that from?
Justin Timberlake had a song called Mirror? The actor from the social network? Drop the the. This is fun. Josh and Nicole. Those are our names. This is Mr. Max.
I'm calling in to say that there is a certain food company whose name starts with the letter K and ends with a flotation device. I know what it is. That makes a lot of food products. I know what it is. None of them are any good. None. Josh, I'm going to give you just a second to rebuttal here.
Well, Josh doesn't know what you're talking about. Hey, Josh, I'm going to stop you there. You're wrong. It's a log. It kind of resembles cheese. I thought it was Kellogg's. What did you think it was? Pause it. Pause it. What did you think it was? What did you think it was? I thought it was Kellogg's. You're like, what's an L-Log? I thought the flotation device was a log.
And I was like, logs do float sometimes. How can you be so smart but so dumb at the same time? There's certain category categories that are very good answers, but I'm not. This guy. All right. Keep looking. Josh, I'm going to give you just a second to rebuttal here. Yeah, I think craft... Josh, I'm going to stop you there. You're wrong. Craft singles are plastic that just...
kind of resembles cheese. And what's the problem? Get yourself, if you like the flavor, get yourself like an adult cheese, like a sharp cheddar. No. Or something a little more melty, like a provolone or a nice Swiss. I've been fooled by adult cheese before. Nicole, it's your turn. Don't do it. Oh, my turn? Thank you for giving me the option to do it. Nicole, I'm sorry. I'm going to stop you there. Thanks for... Kraft mac and cheese is the worst. Okay. Okay? Okay.
for maybe like a quarter to 50 times more. You can get yourself a nice little Velveeta shells and cheese or get like one of the house brands that's like a sharp cheddar and like a bari box of stuff and give some of the better. It's not live. It's not live. It's not live.
I want to talk to him. I want to talk to him. I mean, it actually has some flavor to it. Wait, wait, wait. I love you, too. Love you, too. So this guy said Velveeta is better than Kraft mac and cheese? If you are a hardcore anti-American cheese type of guy, and I know people talk about all chefs being dirtbags and loving American cheese on Smashburgers. No, I've known some chefs that are like, hey, eat real food. Eat real cheese made by a real cheesemaker. So if you're going that route,
And you're like, put the provolone on the cheesesteak. Don't put that cheese with this crap. I totally get it. But you completely soiled your own reputation, sir. When you said that Velveeta shells and cheese are okay, but Kraft is plastic, I agree. Velveeta shells and cheese are significantly better than Kraft mac and cheese or Kraft dinner, as they call it in Canada.
But you cannot say that and then turn your back and reference the plasticine quality of Kraft singles. This man has a vendetta against the Kraft family. Let me tell you. So when I was in culinary school, I lied to my mom and dad and told them that, don't worry, I'm not going to work in a kitchen or something. I'm going to go work at Kraft. A respectable job. Which was what my parents knew as like a big like CPG, like...
Like consumer packaged goods thing that they know at the store, right? They bought the dressing. They know what Kraft is. They know the cheese, whatever. So I am forever indebted to Kraft for letting my parents okay me going to school. So no matter what you say, no matter what you do, no matter what kind of evidence you bring up here to the two of us, at least for me, I will not be budging to my loyalty to Kraft. Now, do they have any actual direct sponsoring of this? No.
But if it wasn't for them, my parents would not give me the okay to go to culinary school, which means I probably wouldn't be sitting here right now. So I'm going to eat the fake cheese. I'm going to eat the mac and cheese. I'm going to eat the dressings. I'm going to do all the other stuff with all the other cheeses because it's right. And I like it. And it's the most American thing I can imagine to eat. What?
When you're talking about Kraft products, oh, you think you know Kraft products is the thing with Kraft on the label. No, no, no. Kraft bought Heinz. Kraft is now like the biggest producer of food in the world. If you think you hate Kraft products, you are probably eating one right now. And you don't even know it. You don't even know it. Maybe you should check the labels. Before you wreck the labels. Yeah.
Why are we so funny today? Is it because we are not barred by research? Yeah, not barred by having to try and give information. How much fun is this? Should we just make this the whole podcast? Post-intellectual bimbo era, man. I'm there. We should be in on it. I'm there.
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Hey, Josh and Nicole. Colin here from the crotch of the Bible Belt. If you go to McDonald's, you can purchase something called hotcakes and sausage. And if you take the sausage patty, and instead of eating it plain, you cut it up into eight little pieces like a little pork pie, you can drizzle syrup on top of them and eat them individually. And it's just a wonderful little treat. I call it a syrup sausage patty.
And bonus points if you add butter. It turns into the old saturated fat scene. But anyway, it's just a nice little treat. And even though both of you are much too old for me, I have a major crush on both of you. Anyway, have a lovely day. That wouldn't fly down on the crotch of the Bible Belt. So I Googled it. The crotch or the buckle of the Bible Belt is often considered to be in Mississippi. Biloxi. I'm guessing he's from Biloxi. Biloxi.
Hotcakes and sausage. Yum. I'd eat it. It might be the best menu item on there. Have you ever eaten just a full ass plate of hotcakes and sausage there? Never, never, never. You ever have the Krusty's microwavable pancakes? Never. What? You're not living. They're so much better than this is a crazy take. I've lived a lot of life and I've eaten a lot of microwave pancakes. Krusty's. I never had Krusty's. You never had Krusty's? You love Krusty's because you were raised on Krusty's. I was raised on Eggo. Ah.
Rich. Yeah, we never had NameRant, dude. They sold Krusty's at the 99 cents only. And also a supermarket chain that I remember going to called Boney's.
CD, that's a you thing. We went to a place called Boney's. Here, talk about their sausage while I look up Boney's. I love McDonald's sausage. I think it's absolutely delicious. And I'm sure that I would absolutely love the hot cakes or hoe cakes or Johnny cakes or whatever you call them. I find them to be very, very delicious. I've never actually eaten them, though, but I can imagine that they're really good. The sausage is really, really good. Does he like butter on them? Do you like butter? Did he say he liked butter on them? Yeah, he's buttering up that syrup sausage. I like it. I like it. I'm a big fan of it.
No, but this Bonies was started in 2004, and I was going to Bonies in probably about 1999. I don't think there's such a thing as a Bonies. I grew up going to supermarkets called Bonies. I'm sure it wasn't called Bonies. I swear to God it was Bonies. No, I think it might have been Bonies. Check this out. So Henry's Farmer's Market is an operator of natural food stores. Henry Bonie and his family opened a fruit stand on a street corner in San Diego.
Yeah, so 19—here it is. Was this in Oceanside? Check this out. Was this when you were in Oceanside? 23 stores, yes, in Oceanside, California. And they used to have the—you'd get like 10 years of corn for a dollar. Boney's. Boney's Bayside Market. I think maybe they got—no, that's a different one. That's a new Boney's they started because Boney's was bought out by Henry's. What's Boney's? Anyways.
The hotcakes and sausage at McDonald's are one of the better fast food items you can eat, bar none. I love just using the hotcake like a flatbread and then scooping up the sausage with the syrup on it. Put some butter on there if you really want to. I think the sausage grease does the job just fine. I can't stop reading. Okay, so Wild Oats acquired Henry's, which I believe, when did Boney's change his name to Henry's? And then the family, the Boney family, developed Sprouts. Maggie, next opinion, please.
So wild oats. So this is all bought by Whole Foods. Bologna makes a better bread for grilled cheese. Did you hear that? Yeah, I wish I didn't. Oh my God. Oh my God. They're heavy. Ah! Yeah, it's not so nice when people do it back to us, huh? I don't like it. That was sinister. I need a shower. What was it? Bologna makes a better bread for grilled cheese. You know what? My keto king, I agree.
I agree. You are living life in 2026. And the best part about this being keto is it's healthy. And that your heart, you can get heart disease. Yeah, you fry up the bologna with the cheese and maybe put some bacon in there, maybe a little bit of butter, and that's good. That's healthy food. That's a good dad. For the people. I will concede the fact that bologna is so processed that it hardly feels like meat. It feels, it's arguably similar to bread in certain ways. Yeah.
You know? I have no problem with this. A lot of filler, a lot of starch. I have zero problem with this. I think it's really good. If you went to In-N-Out, you would call this a Flying Dutchman. I always get a Flying Dutchman. You get a Flying Dutchman? I get a Flying Dutchman onion wrapped and literally, I'm in heaven. You said onion wrapped. Uh-huh. Raw or grilled? Grilled. Grilled onion. Interesting. I like to get a single cheeseburger.
I feel like my In-N-Out order has gotten less radical as I've gotten older. Yeah, me too. You want to tell me your whole In-N-Out order? Yeah, I get a single cheeseburger with grilled onions. Uh-huh.
You don't get animal style anymore? No. Why? I, for some reason, this is interesting. I love pickles on other burgers. There's something about the flavor of pickles that to me throws off an In-N-Out burger. Okay. I'm going to tell you my In-N-Out order, okay? Yeah. It is a double-double, animal style, extra pickles, extra sauce, and then a flying Dutch mint onion wrapped on the side.
A lot of meat. That's a lot of meat. A lot of meat. That's incredible. Thank you. Yeah. And I get French fries. I don't get French fries. Not animal style. I don't get French fries. And if I get a drink, it's probably going to be a water with a little bit of lemonade. Do you know what I mean? Nice. Yeah, yeah. This little. Yeah, I do the old Arnie Palmy there. I used to get a three by two onions, two ways chopped chilies and then animal style fries. And then now I'm like, I enjoy the simplicity of cheeseburger. I don't think we need. Yeah.
Maybe I'm going to try to get not animal style next time and not pickles. Well, no, if you enjoy it. I'm going to try it. Am I just getting spice compulsorily? Yeah, the chopped chilies. Doesn't meld with the flavors of the burger. The chopped chilies are nice, but they're not for me always. Anything else you want to talk about? Yeah, I've made a bunch of birria for dinner tonight. You know, three pounds. But now I really want to make a hamburger. Make a birria burger. Well, on that note.
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People would think that we were like Cesar Millan. We could. Cesar Millan probably is within a mile radius of us right now. You realize that, right? You have that tracker on him too? I don't know. I have an app. Oh yeah, you got Cesar Tracker? I have Cesar Tracker. That's incredible. Well, no, my coffee shop that I like stopping into is getting a signed picture of Cesar Millan. Huge. And I saw him at the Bob's Discount Furniture in Burbank once. Did you ask? He did not look pleased with the service he was getting. See y'all next time.