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I'm a total caniac and no one's gonna stop me. Yeah, well, I'm... I'm Popeye the Sailor Man. That wasn't that great, buddy. Hey, hey, let's go get some fried chicken. Cheer you up, yeah? All right. This is a hot dog is a sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What?
Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the show we break down the world's biggest food debates. I'm your host, Popeye the Sailor Man. I don't know if you noticed, but my expression automatically changed when you attempted to do like a silly voice. My wife's name is Olive Oil. She's got a wasting disease. I have growths on my forearms.
I think he was allergic to spinach. You know what I mean? Yeah, it was causing a lot of inflammation in places. Yeah, I think so. He had an ornery disposition and truly bald his forearms. He has the forearms of Devin Larratt. And I'm your host, Nicole Inayati. Professional arm wrestler, Devin Larratt. I've seen his videos. Larratt? Devin Larratt? You've seen him? Mm-hmm. Oh, my God. Large, large arms. Lock up. Lock up, bro. Let's go over the top. Josh is making me want to... Josh is asking me to arm wrestle.
Should I do a chat? Should I do a chat? Do it. This is just an excuse to hold it. Do it. You gotta posture. You gotta posture. You gotta... Okay. I don't wanna be... Enough roughhousing and horsing around, Nicole. We have a very serious debate to get to, and that is taking the new kid on the block, Raising Cane's, just a young...
28 years old. Is it true? 28 years old? Raising Cane's founded in 1996. Baton Rouge, Louisiana on the campus of LSU by Todd Graves. That's incredible. He was a young college student when he did this? So he initially, this is coming from, this is all propaganda. This is from the Raising Cane's website, but also true. They say that he put together a college class project that
for a restaurant that only served chicken fingers. Okay. And apparently, according to the website, he got the lowest grade in the class because it would never work, and that was a stupid idea. And then he opens Raising Cane's in 1996. Told ya. On a college campus. I believe he went to University of Georgia, though. Now he's on Shark Tank because Raising Cane's... Like, as one of the sharks? He's a shark. Wow, I love that. He is so much chicken that he is now a shark. Every entrepreneur's...
But Raising Cane's, they are one of the fastest growing fast food restaurants in the history of America. Post Malone loves them. Post Malone loves them. Raising Cane's is doing crazy, crazy numbers. Papa is also a Louisiana-based fried chicken restaurant. Love that chicken for Papa.
And I really do. Popeye is Al Copeland, 1972. Not named after Popeye the Sailor Man, actually. Okay. Named after, this is one of my dad's favorite movies, Popeye Doyle from The French Connection. I never saw. I've never heard. I've never seen. Your dad loves The French Connection.
He does? How do you know that about my dad? Because all dads love the French Connection. They love Gene Hackman. Your dad loves Gene Hackman? Yeah. Well, my dad, well, we're an Indiana Jones family. Oh, okay, okay. So I'll see if there's crossover with the French Connection and Indiana Jones. There must be. It is pretty funny, though, that the French Connection, I think, comes out in 71. Al Copeland opens Popeye's Chicken in 1972. That's incredible. And I'm wondering, like... He's a fast-working man.
what that would be for us. Like if we open like an Austin Powers poke bowl restaurant in like, you know, 2007 after a gold member comes out. Who was Ayo's character in Bottoms? I don't remember. Whatever her name was in Bottoms will open up a restaurant based off of her character. I want a shiva baby themed Jewish deli. The shiva baby. It is. It already is.
But yeah, fair point. But Popeyes, I mean, they've been around for 55 years at this point, and they had a massive explosion with the chicken sandwich. Oh, yeah, big time. We've talked about it ad nauseum, I'd say, on this podcast. Ad nauseum. Cane's has a sandwich now, too, because everyone seems like they need one to compare. But I'm really curious to see how these stack up next to each other. We got chicken tenders against chicken tenders, and then we got sandwich against sandwich. We got coleslaw against coleslaw. We got sauce against sauce.
I'm really excited to dive in here. Got that like delicious split top Texas toast, brioche-y looking bun. You know what grinds my gears? Go ahead. The sandwich that they have on their menu, it's like a burger bun with lettuce. What I would have done is just take the Texas toast and make that into a sandwich with the coleslaw and the sauce on it. I don't know why they did this. It makes me angry and sad and I want to talk about
to talk about that. Yeah, should we leave? Should we step out and take a breath? Because I'm mad too now. I'm mad too, especially because I think this is disrespectful to Armenian people. What are you talking about? Let me explain. So, hear me out. What? The Nashville hot chicken boom. I think you know where I'm going with this. There was a massive boom in Nashville hot chicken. Popeyes, KFC, they've all sort of jumped on the train at some point. But in Los Angeles, a lot of the Nashville hot chicken spots are run by Armenian people. A lot of them started as pop-ups.
And they would do the chicken tender sliders. They realized the same thing that Raising Cane's realized, which is that like doing whole bone-in fried chicken is not the moneymaker. No. It's the tendies. It's the tendies. That's what a vast majority of people want. Myself, I'm a bone-in chicken guy. I love a sandwich. I love a tender whatever. I love bone-in chicken more than anything. But all these places, they would make –
They'd call them sliders generally. Okay. But their sandwiches would be on like a split-top hot dog roll-looking thing. Which is the way to do it, I would say. The better way to do it. The better way. They'd drizzle their spicy mayo or crack sauce or comeback sauce, whatever you want to call it. They got cane sauce, of course, over here at Raising Cane's. But yeah, it should be in that little bun. And this is what most people, I think, do with Raising Cane's. This is what I do. Make a little sando. Make a little sando. Mm-hmm. Right? Right.
Where do you stand on raising canes in general? You know, I haven't had too much raising canes. One did just open up in Burbank, and the lines are intense and stressful. They had police stationed there. Yes, yes. People were making illegal U-turns to get into the raising canes parking lot. Burbank's biggest problem other than...
wildfires. Is U-turns illegal U-turns? Yes. In Raising Cane's. In Jay Leno driving without proper license plates on his classic cars. I think Raising Cane's does a lot. I think their sauce is pretty incredible. I would say that their sauce is like the perfect chicken dipping sauce.
What Popeye's has is more than just chicken. I think they have their seafood options, which are delicious. I love their little shrimpy shrimps. Phenomenal. I think they have a panoply of sauces to kind of like fit your, like choose your character sauce, which I think is very, very special. They have that little seasoning packet, uh, Creole sprinkle, I think it's called or whatever it's called magic or magic. Incredible on just about anything. Um,
I think there's a lot more variety at Popeye's. So you could go there and you could get a bunch of stuff. You could get your bone-in chicken. You could get your tenders. You could get your sandwich. You could get your biscuit. You could get your mac and cheese. I like the shrimp. You could get your shrimp. I like the shrimp at the Popeye's. They got the mac and cheese. They put the shrimp on it. See, there's those options there. I think the menu at Raising Cane's is limited, but I know that's intentional. It's supposed to be a limited menu, so it's not too crazy and you don't get too wild with it.
So I almost feel like they're two different restaurants in a way. They are for sure. They're both chicken shops, but the variety at Popeye's kind of takes it over the limit for me. I'd rather eat at Popeye's because there are more options.
But I will say, just looking at the tenders, there's a clear difference. There's a clear difference. So Raising Cane's, they stake their name on the freshness of their tenders. And obviously, we got these delivered to a podcast studio. Not the ideal way to eat Raising Cane's. That's not right. Every time I've eaten a Raising Cane's, I have been utterly impressed by how fresh the tenders are. They're pretty beautiful. The thing I think they're lacking...
To me, is seasoning. I've always found Raising Cane's tenders to be really well done. Like a well-cooked? Like a good cook on them? A good cook on them. They always come out hot. It's delicious. But the seasoning to me lacks, which is where Popeye's really shines. And the cane sauce, for me, I'm a ranch and hot sauce guy when it comes to chicken tenders. So the cane sauce for me has never quite done it, but I am fully open to being swayed. I am an open mind and a sponger.
Is that a sponge? Sponge. That's how it's pronounced. Try the tender without any sauce on it. Very juicy. So juicy. The Coke on the chicken is brilliant. The seasoning is not bad. It's not bad. I've had so many worse chicken tenders. It's mostly salt, though. The seasoning is mostly salt. Okay. There's no problem. I have no problem with that. The cane sauce is where you're supposed to get the flavor from. That sauce is stupid good. That's dummy good.
What is in cane sauce? Josh, what is in this damn sauce? I don't want to be the naysayer here at all. Go, go. It's okay. Go. I don't love cane sauce. There's too much ketchup for chicken to me. What are you talking about? This is ketchup-y, right? Am I crazy? No, but it's great. What's wrong with ketchup? I like ketchup. There's something, and I love any sort of Thousand Island-y mayo ketchup, whatever. Me too. To me, this is slightly on the wrong shade of pink.
Oh, you like it. And I know I'm in the vast majority here. It's really well-spiced. Give me a Pantone color that would be better for you. I want, honestly, take this, I'm not saying they do this or they should, but turmeric in there? Like, give me a little orange. Oh, stop. No, I'm saying give me a little orange. This is like kind of a, almost like a grayish, like mauve. I don't have a- Right? Am I crazy? It's not mauve. It's pink with a little bit of gray speckling in there. It's not bad. I want to do something, Nicole. Okay, crazy. What are you going to do?
Tender for tender. I don't think Popeye's tenders are the best, but also they're like, tend to be what I go for. Okay. And these are two Louisiana chicken shops, ultimately against each other. Dip a Raising Cane's tender in Popeye's Blackened Ranch, which to me might be the best fast food dip and sauce for chicken. Okay, let's do it. In the game. They also got the Mardi Gras mustard.
In the Buttermilk Ranch, but there's no reason you would need to go to the Buttermilk Ranch over the Blackened Ranch. Hey, I'll say this. The Blackened Ranch at Popeye's and the cane sauce are quite similar. I thought they wouldn't be that similar. No, these are worlds apart. No, I'm talking... In color? They're both pink sauces. No, but I'm saying there's more oranges...
Look, I'm not crazy. There's more orange in the Popeye's sauce, making it a significantly more pleasant looking sauce. This is what I believe. I don't think anybody out there should have the same crazy beliefs that I do. I don't think. But it's what I believe. You think the Blackened Ranch tastes better than the cane sauce? Are you being a serious person right now? It's so bland. It's so flavorless compared to the.
Okay, and then, uh-huh, dipping it into the cane sauce. Hold on. I'm trying them back-to-back for the first time. Oh. Oh, yeah. Cane sauce is great. It's a million times better.
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I've always had the conspiracy. Apparently there's no celery salt in there, but I've always had a conspiracy that there's celery salt in there. I think there's celery salt in there. You think you're tasting celery salt, right? There's a reason why people get like Diet Coke fountain drinks and fill it with the cane sauce. It's really that good. It is. Tasting it next to the Blackened Ranch from Popeye's, which the Blackened Ranch from Popeye's comes in...
The sealed little container that has all the ingredients list on it. Popeyes now has got 3,000 locations, I think. Incredible. And you look at the ingredients, it's soybean oil, water, vinegar, corn syrup, right? That's going to be the top ingredient for pretty much any type of sauce. Yes. Any sort of packaged sauce like that, yeah. And also, anytime you see soybean oil as a number one ingredient, that means mayonnaise most likely, right? If you were to look at the ingredients list of cane sauce, it would probably read similar because it's obviously mayonnaise-based, but...
The cane sauce comes in just like a little deli cup that you'd get at a family restaurant. And it says cane sauce on the cup. It makes me feel like they pour it fresh. That's what I'm saying. It makes you picture somebody like whisking stuff together. Whereas the Popeye's, there is something artificial tasting about...
The ranch, you're tasting that little bite of pure citric acid that they're adding for freshness, right? Yes, yes. Whereas the cane sauce tastes like something your buddy Tim's mom made to dip her famous buffalo chicken dippers in. There's thoughtfulness in cane sauce that I don't taste in other sauces. Her famous buffalo chicken dippers are just like a Costco bag of anitizers that she puts a little bit of Tony Sashers on. Yeah, I swear. Did you try the Popeye's tender yet? No, should we dig in? I tried it already.
That is a natural shape of a chicken. This looks like the heptapod language from Arrival. I will say the consistency of Kane's tenders are great. Popeye's has never had very consistent tenders, and I do find them generally quite overcooked. I agree with that. Trying a Popeye's tender. I agree with your mentality. The seasoning on it is great. The cook on it, garbagio.
Very overcooked chicken. Very. However, the dredge. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. The dredge is phenomenal. Popeye's seasoning, Popeye's dredge is perfect. If you had Popeye's seasoning and dredge with the Raising Cane's chicken and attention to detail dipped in the cane sauce, I think it would be perfect. I think so too. Like fried chicken for fried chicken. Which one of these do you think is better? Which one would you gravitate towards?
Based off chicken cookery alone, I'd have to say Raising Cane's. You have to. It'd be wrong to not. Is there like a thick, well, here's a giant thick Popeye's tender. I got a thick boy tender. Are they cutting these in stores, I wonder? This is very heavily wet brined. You can tell how wet brined it is because of the snappiness. The snappiness, the striations of the chicken. There's a level of snappiness.
Is this bordering on too salty? The Popeye's one? Popeye's chicken tenders. In their bone-in chicken, it works. But there's something other than salt in there, which I like. There's MSG, there's paprika, there's garlic, there's onion. These are all flavors that I equate with delicious chicken tenders. But unfortunately, the cook on the chicken takes away from it.
My world was really rocked when I looked up. This is the type of stuff that rocks my world these days. My world was rocked when I looked up Taco Bell's top-selling items. And I thought I'd see cheesy gordita crunches and crunch wraps and all that. Their top-selling items are soft taco, hard taco, bean burrito by far. Right? 7-Eleven makes their money by selling cigarettes and lotto tickets. Right? It's not their egg salad sandwiches and whatever. Nope. That's all window dressing.
So all of this, like, variety at Popeyes, that's really cool, right? Popeyes doesn't make any money selling shrimp. What they do is they have an excuse to advertise, hey, new shrimp promotion at Popeyes. Remember, Popeyes exists. It's the same reason Oreos makes all those stupid flavors. Oh, it's not because they're having fun?
I'm sure the Nabisco Corporation also loves having fun, but I'm saying Oreo isn't like, oh my God, the bomb pop 4th of July Oreos are going to make us billions. They lose money on the bomb pop Oreos, but they remind people that Oreos exists. They get a bunch of people making content, trying the new Oreos, people get excited at the stores, and then Oreos at Top of Mind. So you think that's what's happening with Popeyes?
More or less, right? Nobody really wants a flounder sandwich from a fast food restaurant that often, but they had to follow up their success with a chicken sandwich somewhere. What you lose then is attention to detail and consistency. Right. If you're a restaurant and you can do one thing, and that's fry a damn good chicken tender and put together this little home-whisked sauce with some little like... Flex? There's flex. I love the flex. There's flex. There's black pepper. There might be celery salt. There's something. It's like...
This is great, and you can do that consistently. The craziest thing about Cane's, so Cane's right now, they're, I think, 22nd ranked in terms of total revenue of all fast food restaurants, all fast food chains in America. Popeye's is 15th. Okay. There are more than four times as many Popeye's locations. Holy. So raising Cane's per unit does, I think, something like $5.7 million per unit, which is about three times the average. That is insane. Popeye's is like 1.8 million.
So per store, Cane's kills it because they move volume, right? Because they're doing just a few things. They're doing a few things well. They're not slowing down to fry the shrimp. You know, they're not slowing down to— It must be a French fry from Popeye's. How do you feel about their Cajun fries? It's Cajun fries against crinkle fries. Crinkle fries signify the death of American intellectualism. I agree. But damn, aren't they tasty. They got looks and crannies.
If we're talking sides, do you go Cajun fries or crinkle cut fries? I mean, to me, it's 10 times out of 10 Cajun fries. Potato plus seasoning? No. That's what I'm saying. The crinkle cut fries at Cane's. Crinkle cut does nothing for me. It's like a total nostalgia thing. And that's fine. Crinkle cut's fake.
Crinkle cut is fake news. I will say this, Nicole, though. You love crinkle cutting your own vegetables, and I have told you that I hate it. We're not fries, though. You'll crinkle cut anything except a potato. Yeah. Why is that? Because whenever you're making a large batch of french fries, you've got to do it a lot. But if I'm making, I don't know, like spring rolls, and I just want to cut a cucumber and a carrot, I'll do it. But not like 40 potatoes.
That's a fair point actually. Like I'm willing to express my love for someone in like small doses, but not too much. They get greedy. What of the bread option, Nicole? Oh, we got the Popeye's biscuit. You got a drink handy? That's a meme. I'm gonna dip it in my La Croix. You know what a biscuit is? What's that? It's just a vehicle for eating baking powder. You can taste the baking powder. It's butter and baking powder. No, it really is. That's all a biscuit is.
I don't really care for it, though. I'm not a big fast food biscuit. What I do with a fast food biscuit is I drown it in honey and butter. Mm-hmm. Right? That's a great— You don't raw dog a biscuit. No, no, no. Never raw dog a biscuit. Never. Never.
Canes, on the other hand... This Texas toast is sexy. Yo, this is a sexy bread. The Canes bread. It's enriched. It's enriched white bleached flour. I don't know if you know this, but what most people do, Nicole, is they eschew the coleslaw. I love the coleslaw because it's the... What does eschew mean? Eschew. They forego it. They poo-poo it. They poo-poo it. I am not here to poo-poo the coleslaw. For extra bread. What? Eat a vegetable, Nicole. So most people...
Coleslaw to me is American panchan. Panchan are the generally pickled fermented vegetables and sides that go with like Korean barbecue or several other Korean meals. This is all we get in America is coleslaw. And that's fine. I'm a hoslaw for coleslaw. What are you? I'm a hoslaw for coleslaw. I'm also a... A whoreslaw for coleslaw. Crab coconut slaw. You want me to crack over pot pie slaw?
I'm sorry, did you say words to me? This is the best bread I've ever eaten in my GD life. Why is Raising Cane's Texas Toast so fire? Okay, do you remember during the chicken sandwich? Oh my god, it's so good. There's a margarine-y, I don't know if they're using- Yeah, salty, buttery goodness. But I don't know if it's butter or if it's hydrogenated vegetable oil plus butter extract. I like whatever it is. But you know what it is? It's excellent. Dip it in the mayonnaise sauce. When Popeye's came out with the chicken sandwich and then everybody was like, we gotta race to make it. We gotta make one.
I remember reading about Burger King and their CEO was like, we went to 14 different pickle factories to find the right pickle. So nerdy. But so much of fast food is about sourcing. I agree. So much about any sort of food item is...
100%. And so, like, you know, I don't think Todd Graves is out there baking this bread in his own oven, right? No. But when they were deciding on a, like, national distributor for breads for Raising Cane's. Whatever they chose, it was the winner. This is genuinely the best fast food bread product I've ever eaten, right? I think it's perfect.
probably number one this is nuts it's really good and not that I'm like new to it but this is the first time that I haven't just like inhaled it while mashing it around a chicken tender yeah Raising Cairns is thoughtful guys oh what this is great I know
Unbelievable. I mean, this is like if you made a lobster roll out of this bread. You'd be a happy camper. You'd be a very happy camper. Right. It's a good piece of bread. It's a good piece of bread. In the cane sauce. I'm being converted to a full caniac over here. Dude, me too. I was pro Popeyes, but now I'm starting to eschew. Eschew. Eschew. Can I tell you, though, why Popeyes has a certain edge? Look at the color of everything.
Everything at Popeye's is slightly oranger. The slaw. And that makes you happy? Orange foods, to me, are the best. Yeah, it used to be all about brown foods, but now you're not into brown foods? Well, don't say that. I'm still a brown food guy. But no, you know what I mean? There's that little orange of spice that invokes like, oh, there's been a chili pepper in here. There's been a mustard in here. Interesting. Okay. Whereas that is the whitest slaw I've ever seen at Cain's. Well, maybe because they want it to be white. Maybe they want it to be white.
Nothing wrong with being white. It's fine. Just, like, don't say it out loud. It's weird. Well, this has purple in it, a little bit of purple. It's a weird amount of purple. I think it's studded with purple, like a beautiful diamond necklace with sapphires. So when I was a kid, we used to get what was called bagged American salad mix. Yeah, me too. We talked about this. We have similar experiences, although we have led different lives. Just two children of immigrants here, you know.
My mom left South Africa in 1974. Your stepmom from Vietnam, not you. My mom is from South Africa. Was she really? Yeah, she left when she was like 17. What? I thought she was born and raised in America. No, I mean, she had an accent. Your mother had a South African accent? Yeah, not like that, though. It was more British. I didn't know that. But...
There was red cabbage. I'm bagged American salad mix. It was iceberg lettuce, red cabbage, and carrots. Yeah, no carrots. Never had enough carrots. 2% carrot, 3% red cabbage, 95% iceberg. 100% iceberg and like Campylobacter bacteria just sitting in the bag. But none of us liked the occasional shard of red cabbage. We had an exotic lizard.
You had a lizard growing up? I think my dad was dating... So many stories from our childhood don't really add up. My dad was, like, dating a woman with a weird son who I'm pretty sure sold drugs. But anyways, he moved into our studio apartment at one point, and he brought a lizard. And then he moved out, and my dad broke up with the woman, and he left this weird exotic... So we had, like, an exotic drug dealer's lizard. Sorry, a drug dealer's exotic lizard. Um...
I thought I knew everything about you. And we didn't know what to feed it, and we fed it the red cabbage from our salad mix. How long did it stay alive? A little while. I think we kind of just forgot about it. What was the lizard's name? Exotic lizard's name? I don't remember. Braxton or something? Probably. Braxton? The exotic lizard? Something. You have so many great stories and so many not so great stories, but that was a positive one. I liked it. I like the Popeye's coleslaw more.
Raising canes really does taste fresh. Their food really does taste fresh in a way that I... I find the coleslaw from Popeyes to be fresher and crunchier. You know why I think? Is it because it's orange? Orange! Are you sure? No, Popeyes, I think it's been sitting in the sugar and salt and acid. And that's been drawing out the moisture from the cabbage. Maybe. Which literally makes it crunchier in certain ways. I like it more. I do like Popeyes more. I let my slaws sit. Let them sit overnight. We gotta try the sandwich.
I'm full. You're full. Nicole, you're at your job. Like, sometimes at your job, people get bored, but you still have to put together the TPS reports. At our job, I mean, go to your level of comfort. Don't do anything you're not comfortable with. At our job, we have to eat. What's a TPS report? TPS report. I don't know. I only know the reference from Office Space. Okay, so I got us a classic sandwich. I didn't get the spicy, which I know. Shame on me. Big breast. Big breast.
Popeye sandwich. They made a big breast shiny bun. Don't ever look at me and say big breast again, okay? I'll sue you. I'll sue. So good, man. I want a pickle. Popeye chicken sandwich. I want a for sure pickle. Remains... I want a pickle for sure. The best in the game. I will say, they had better quality control of just like...
So if you've got a perfectly cooked breast in that Popeye's chicken sandwich, it's the greatest thing. I have never had a Raising Cane's chicken sandwich. I actually didn't even know they had this. I didn't know either, but there's chicken tenders in the sandwich. So if you like the cook of the chicken tenders, chances are you will like the cook of this. That is true. And there is leaf lettuce. I don't like the leaf lettuce. Crinkle cut fries, leaf lettuce. There's fries in the sandwich? There's a different sauce on this too, I believe. Whoa. On the top, or is that just cane sauce that has dried out a little bit? Turn it around. Let me see.
No, but you see that, like, kind of sugary... I think that's cane sauce. Just cane sauce that's separated? Nice. Uh-huh, uh-huh. How does the bread stand up to the Texas toast? That sandwich is... You ever watch Talladega Nights? No, but I've seen a lot of... But I finished The Righteous Gemstones, and I'm watching Vice Principals right now. What do those things have to do with each other? What's the link? I was thinking, like, Danny McBride. He's not in Talladega Nights. Oh! What? It's John C. Reilly. Oh!
Did you think John C. Reilly's character was played by Danny McBride? It's got a big Danny McBride energy. I'm sorry. Maggie, can you confirm that Danny McBride was not in Talladega Nights? He really should have been. Been a great Danny McBride vehicle. Curly hair, a little bit chunky, cute, funny. Sorry, I got them mixed up. Don't be mad at me. Be mad at the context. Yeah, no, I don't believe he was in it. Sorry. Sorry.
There's a scene in Talladega Nights where Sacha Baron Cohen is in the dive bar and he starts playing jazz in the jukebox and everyone freaks out. And he goes, wait, if you do not want people to play jazz, why is it in the jukebox? Okay. He said, we only have it there to weed out people we don't like. That's that sandwich. They only have it on the canes menu to weed out people that shouldn't be at Raising Canes. I agree. It's a trap. It's a trap. But there's lettuce. I understand why they had to do it. Sandwiches are selling.
No. Lettuce does nothing. Makes everything worse. Build your own sandwich with the Texas toast. Absolutely the move. Don't, don't, don't give in. Don't give in to the BS. Don't fall for it. You're
You're smarter than that. What do you think? So right now, Canes has like massive, massive expansion plans. Not like massive, like we want to take over the world and have 50,000 locations, but they're like, we want to, you know, open up like... Raising Canes in Dubai? I don't know about their Dubai plans. But no, they want to open up another like 700 locations in the next like 5, 10 years. In the U.S.? In the U.S. And also keep same store sales above what they are now.
Do you think that this can just keep growing or eventually are we going to like see a bubble? Because I thought like 20 years ago, if somebody would have told you what Starbucks is going to become, it would have sounded unreasonable. Yet Starbucks kept growing. Can Cane's do that? Although Starbucks got a lot more complicated. I think if Cane's remains thoughtful and intentional with their menu –
Are you going to throw up? No, I was just burping. Oh, I think if they remain intentional and thoughtful with their menu as they've been so far, I think they can surpass Popeyes. But I think they need to realize what they have, their core competencies, and stick to that and just push that into the world.
But the thing I'm worried about is that thing about the Oreos you said about constant innovation to remind people that they still exist. How are they going to do that without compromising their core competencies? I don't know. Post Malone! He can't do everything, Josh. Yes, he can. Post Malone has new Oreos out, too. Oh, he does? Posty, we love you, man. Do they have tattoos on them or something? What is it, temporary tattoo Oreos? What's going on? He literally did design the design on the cookie. Posty, you are...
holding up half of the food industry at this point. Soon we're going to have honey bunches of oats by Post Malone. Isn't it by Post Cereal? Post Cereal, Post Malone. Like, come on. We need you everywhere. But Raising Cane's, if I was ever a skeptic before, I've been fully, fully converted to being a Caniac. I will maybe bring my own blackening seasoning to dump on the chicken tenders. But I'm fully converted. They are doing a wicked freaking job. Absolutely. Raising Cane's is doing it right now.
Still love Popeyes, but eating them next to each other, man. Night and day. That's a good tendie. God, I'm so full. What dessert options do they have? Ugh.
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Find a shoe for every you at your DSW store or DSW.com. All right, now it's time for a new segment called Yummy in My Tummy Got Some Trivia for You. That's right. Robot Maggie has three questions prepared. Nicole, you and I will wait until the question is complete, and then we will answer. If wrong, the other person gets a chance to steal for the point. Nicole, you ready for it? Yeah, but I'm so full right now. Yeah, she can't think. I can't think. I can't feel. I've dragged her down into the mud. You're in my world now.
What determines the color of an eggshell? Oh, shoot. This is definitely something I should know. I have a... Yeah. Yeah. I have one to say. On three. One, two. The breed of chicken. I don't think it's feed related. I think it's the breed of chicken. We got feed and breed. The correct answer is the breed of chicken. Well done, man. Got him. Thank you. Thank you. The color of the yolk has to do with feed. The diet. Yeah, I knew that. Chicken fed with kelp has... Okay, anyways.
What was the first vegetable ever to be grown in space? Oh, I know. Yeah. On three? One, two, three. Peppers. The correct answer is the potato. What? Wait, why did we think pepper? Because we did an episode on this and then they cooked peppers in 2000. But that was NASA related. But there's a likelihood that other space people. Like Martians? No. Like Matt Damon? No, no. Maybe the Russians. Russians and potatoes.
That make sense? Maybe. Are you Googling it? I'm doing some Googling. But me and you thought it was... 1995. Who did it? NASA did it? NASA. Why did we both go to pepper, though? Because we did an episode on banned space food, and we did something about peppers for some reason. That's so interesting. Well, yeah. What are you going to do? Nothing. Lose. What are you going to do? Which country is the largest producer of olive oil? I'm going to guess right here. You think America?
I was going to, but now I'm going to change my answer. Oh, no. That's a pretty, I mean, America produces a lot of stuff. But I don't, all of groves take a lot to manage. I'm going to make a, I'm going to, I have an answer. Should I say my answer? Say it. Italy. I was going to say Italy too. Or Spain. Italy or Spain? Frick it, Spain. I'm going to say Spain too. I'm saying Italy then. I'm fading her bet. No, no. I'm saying Spain. You can't do that.
That's not allowed. Spain, I think, is Spain bigger? I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to mulligan. I'm going to say Portugal. I'll take Italy. No, no, I take Spain. Definitely not Portugal. I take Spain. I take Spain. A sea-based economy. The correct answer is Spain. Hey, wait, what did I say? Italy. Dang it. So we're tied? Spain is a lot more just open farmland. Yeah.
Well, what are you going to do? Let's go to Spain. I want to go to Ibiza. Let's go to Spain and then we go to Ibiza and we party. Nicole, good show. Good show. Well, you know what that means. What? Well, we do a segment. It's time. I was like, it's the time for a little segment we call Opinions Are Like Casseroles.
Josh, before we do this, I have to get something off of my chest that I really want to know your opinion. I know you want to know mine. I want to do an FMK. You know what that means? I do. Flirt, marry, kill. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So since we were doing a whole thing about Popeyes and raising canes, let's do it with chickens. Let's do it. Okay, so FMK.
M.K. Bone-in chicken, chicken tenders, popcorn chicken. Tell me your thoughts and feelings. Ooh, well, just a little flirtation here. I'm going to go popcorn chicken. You're flirting with popcorn? I'm flirting with popcorn chicken. It's not my main, not my end-all, be-all, but just popping those little spicy nuggies in your mouth.
I'm killing chicken tendies. Oh! I think anything a chicken tendie can do, popcorn chicken can also do. More surface area on popcorn chicken for breading. As far as marriage, the one that I want to grow old with. Yeah. Bone-in chicken. There's nothing better than a bone-in chicken thigh, in my opinion. Even a bone-in chicken breast, you get a better cook on that breast meat because of the proximity to bone. None of the best chicken tenders can ever hold a candle to the best bone-in fried chicken.
What I'm learning about me and you is we have different definitions of marriage. What's your definition of marriage? Well, you want to grow. Well, like you're like someone you just want to like grow old and like have like this long extended, like long winded thing with. For me, it's more like, hey, you're there. I love it.
That's not marriage. That's the F in FMK. That's like you're here for a little bit temporarily. I enjoy my time with you. I want to flirt you. Mine's the opposite. I want to flirt the SHI double hockey sticks out of you. Maybe that's something I have to figure out later. Yeah, this sounds like you should talk to a therapist about. Yeah, but I would flirt with people.
popcorn chicken as well because you can, now listen, with chicken tenders, you can't drench them in sauces the way you can popcorn chicken. Popcorn chicken, you can put mango habanero over it like boneless wings. You're saying you have more opportunity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's saucier and there's more, there's more variety and I'm into that. I'm going to kill bone in chicken because too much work.
It's killing history. I'm down. All chicken is bone-in chicken. We forsake God by removing the bones. I am here to forsake God in this conversation. And then chicken tenders, I'm going to marry them. They're there, and they're good, and I love them, and they're in mass quantities, and they're always reliable, and I love them so much. Chicken tenders were invented for children. You're marrying a child. Am I? Is that true? I respect your opinions. Not that, but yeah. Let's get into the opinions. Let's get into it. Let's hear it.
Hi, Josh. Hi, Nicole. Hey, Betty. I'm from Kentucky. I have a hot take. Tell me it's about the hot brown. I think that Chipotle would just completely take over the game if they came out with a breakfast burrito. I think you're right. I'm talking gravy, bacon.
Oh, God. Little hash browns, sausage, bacon, steak, eggs, you name it. I'm disgusted, but I want it. I just think that would be amazing. Okay. Well, God bless you guys. Interesting. Okay. You know. Interesting. God bless you, sir, because that is a good idea that we've thought about before. I don't know if I would do an American breakfast. I think I would go towards the Mexican breakfast.
Like, canon of breakfast burritos. I don't know that there is a Mexican canon of breakfast burrito. I think that's a very American phenomenon, the breakfast burrito. So, you think a breakfast burrito, when you think of a breakfast burrito, is...
It's like gravy and... Gravy is a wild card, but they also have like... And sausage like that? The gravy takes the place of the queso on the current Chipotle bar. But like, see, I wouldn't do that. What I would do is I would go with more Mexican flavors. Like I would do a chorizo situation or like a machaca situation instead of like sausage links.
Yeah, I feel like they would have... What about bacon? I would do bacon. I'd let bacon. Bacon's a very American product. Obviously, a lot of bacon is eaten in Mexico. It is eaten in Mexico. And it's probably the most popular breakfast burrito meat. That's fine, yeah. But I would err more to the sides of... Well, when you think of Chipotle, you think of Mexican flavors, right? Founded by a guy named Steve from Colorado. I understand that, but still... They just have white rice. No, you're not understanding the flavors are Mexican. So I think they would have to do Mexican-inspired flavors for their breakfast burritos. Yeah.
That's interesting. Why is that interesting? I feel like that's a normal thing to say. Well, because most breakfasts, even if you go to a Mexican restaurant, right? My nose is watering. Like, think about the classic Mexican restaurants in, like, the old school spots. Something like, I know it's called Lucy's, but they're a Mexican restaurant. Like, Lucy's, you know, like, they have, it's...
Yellow cheese, it's scrambled eggs, it's bacon. They have chorizo for sure, but that's still just chorizo with potato, egg, and yellow cheese. And a side of salsa, most likely. They're not doing... I mean, a lot of breakfast burritos have beans. I love a breakfast burrito with beans in it. I love like a machaca burrito. Machaca is not even typically a breakfast dish in Mexico, I don't believe. Really? Why have I seen it on so many... Because eggs... Americans only eat eggs for breakfast, and it's weird. We're the only country that does that. I love a chili verde burrito.
Julie Verde breakfast burrito? Yeah. I don't know that I've ever had that. I've had it. The thing with the Chipotle breakfast burrito is you have to operate on a steam table. Yeah. Which is great for like beans and stewed meats and they work it with their grilled meats and the rice always comes out like solid at Chipotle. Yeah.
Scrambled eggs in a steam table. That's reading straight like holiday and express continental breakfast. But it's good. They could find a way to flip the script on it. They would find a way to do it. They would find a way to market it and it would be cool. Don't worry. And they'd be like, do you want Mexican eggs or like normal eggs? And they have like huevos a la mexicana, right? Yeah, or they do chilaquiles. Oh, shoot. They do chilaquiles.
Chilaquiles. Just a vat of chilaquiles? You know what else they do? Or migas? They would do a vat of migas. You know what I think that they do? I think, well, I've seen at Whole Foods what they did a long time ago whenever they had those like specialty like bowls and whatnot. They would have fried eggs ready to go. Wow. They would like have a vat of fried eggs ready to go. It would be great. Yeah.
You know what I've done in a breakfast burrito? Because he said gravy, and my mind was like, that's very normal, but I see why you'd think it was weird. Because I once made a burrito at home, which was like scrambled eggs, cheese, a dense sausage gravy, so a lot of sausage. And then I crumbled, I made biscuits just to crumble up inside the burrito. So it was a biscuits and gravy burrito, and it was gird. It was gird? It was gird. Does that mean good? Gird canter. It gave you gird? It gave me gird.
Interesting idea. I don't know if they'll ever do it. I think if they did do it, it'd be in airports because they're not contracted through the restaurant. They do it like through their own system. And so I feel like you could find a Chipotle that serves breakfast burritos in airports. That's my advice. Okay. I love their red salsa.
Hey, Nicole. Wow, it's so great to finally speak to you. Hey, Josh. Anyway, my opinion is I think that pepperoni can be crisped up in a pan as a good substitute for bacon. Okay. Hey. Notch it almost like you would Taylor ham. And yeah, anything you would normally use bacon for, you can use crispy pepperoni. You're right. Love the podcast. Bye. Agreed. Agreed, agreed, agreed. The way he greeted me is such big, like,
Girlfriend's girlfriend's boyfriend greeting me energy. Oh. So like a friend of Julia's boyfriend, you know, that I've never met before, first time. And the girl is like, oh my God, hey, oh my God, hi. And then like me and the dude that have never met each other, he's like, what's up? What's up?
And then later you just go like... I'm sorry that you and those people have such shallow initial... No, it's not like... No, I'm saying... What is it then? What's the reasoning for it? You know, it's like... What do you mean? Men were taught to treat other men as threats and not have a sort of warm intimacy with each other. Your husband is incredibly intimate. Does he?
He's such an intimate man. David, you're very intimate. Does he ever feel like any man is his direct competition? No, that's actually one of the things I love most about David. I guess the men I surround myself with are not like that at all. So I didn't understand the correlation. 20 minutes later, you just go, you play fantasy football? And then he's go, no, I'm big into sports betting though. And then I go, oh.
Do you ski? No. Deep conversations. Yeah. Why do people ask if people ski? Like, do you think everyone's rich? Yeah. Ski? We're in Los Angeles. I went snowboarding once when I was a kid with a borrowed snowboard from a basketball teammate's dad who worked for a snowboard company. How do you feel about this opinion, though? It's good. Great. Yeah. Next.
He's right. You should say it more. Hey, Josh. Hey, Nicole. Hey, Maggie. I'm calling from warm and sunny Indianapolis. Heck yeah. He's probably not warm and sunny. So much so I've shared it with friends and family. Genuinely appreciate that. But I was hoping you'd be able to help me settle a debate that I recently had with one of my roommates. Of course. So basically I found out that he pronounces mayonnaise as mayonnaise. Oh, yeah.
cutting out like mayonnaise. Yeah. But I've always pronounced it mayonnaise. Oh, and we both fully accept that they're both totally incorrect pronunciations of mayonnaise, but no one has time to say the full Christian giving name. Um,
But anyways, I was really hoping you could help us settle the debate. Thanks. I love the podcast. Keep doing what you guys are doing. Thanks. Thanks. Fascinating. So it's mayonnaise versus mayonnaise? I'm confused. I think I found a graph. Show me, show me, show me. So wait, do we have it? Wait, Nicole, stall. Okay. Okay.
Mayonnaise. Wait, do it again. Mayonnaise. Mayonnaise. Mayonnaise. Mayonnaise. Okay, so I have indeed found a graph here, but it doesn't seem to be a clean regional split at all. So what you're talking about, there are – I'm trying to think of a good example. There's something called like the pin-pen merger –
Where like, or the, okay, so the Mary, Mary, Mary merger. Oh yeah, you tell me about this. Right, this is something where for me, M-E-R-R-Y, M-A-R-Y, and M-A-R-R-Y all sound the same. They're all pronounced Mary. Mary got married and had a Mary wedding. Whereas for somebody from like the East Coast, like my mother-in-law, Susan, is from New Jersey originally, and she would say,
Mary got married and had a merry wedding. Three different ways to pronounce it. And you can see that on a graph geographically. Regional accents are sort of like fading away. But I thought that the mayonnaise, mayonnaise, mayonnaise might have had a similar split.
But no, I'm looking at this graph and the data all seems to be completely interconnected. So what they graphed are two syllables as in mayonnaise, which I would say mayonnaise. I say mayonnaise. You say mayonnaise? I say mayo. So like mayonnaise, two syllables. Mayonnaise. Mayonnaise.
You just said mayonnaise. What's the difference between mayonnaise and mayonnaise? It was the difference between Monet and Manet. Entirely different people pronounced two different names. I guess you're right. Mayonnaise and mayonnaise, there's no data on... Get that mayonnaise from... Get the mayonnaise? Can you get the mayonnaise? Get the mayonnaise. I don't know. How do I say it? I think I also interchange it. I just say mayo. I generally say mayo too, but if you were to say mayonnaise, mayonnaise is two syllables for mayonnaise. You say mayonnaise. I think I say mayonnaise. Mayonnaise.
But are you slurring the third syllable? Yes, I'm always slurring. Pronounce it very slowly. Mayonnaise. Slower. Mayonnaise. Two syllables. So you're saying mayonnaise. I'm saying mayonnaise. So we have the same problem with these two fighting roommates in Indianapolis.
So mayonnaise versus mayonnaise? Yes. So I'm connecting the ayah with the man. So mayah. So instead of... Hold on. So instead of saying mayonnaise, I'm saying mayonnaise. You know what I mean? I'm combining the mayo... May-ah.
Mayonnaise. The first two syllables I'm doing maya and it's maya. Mayonnaise. I think you actually raise a good point. Yes, I know I do. I'm smart. You have an implied third syllable where I don't. Yes, I do. I do. I have always had an implied third syllable when I say mayonnaise. 100%. Mayonnaise. If somebody's doing mischief, what is the adjective? What are they?
Huh? God dang it. If you say somebody who does mischief, they are a? Mischievous person. Say it slower. Mischievous. Mischievous. Mischievous. Mischievous. I don't say mischievous. I don't say mischievous. I'm strictly a three-syllable mischievous guy. Okay. So that's like a clear split in our syllabic pronunciation, right? So you say this is a mischievous person. You don't say. He's a mischievous person. You're acting mischievous. No. You are mischievous. You are acting mischievously.
You're acting David Miscavige-ly. So I think the way to fix this, because this is clearly a problem. Huge problem. Just call it mayo. Call it mayo. Congratulations. So there's what they graphed here. We have a two-syllable mayonnaise because I'm completely forsaking the Y. I'm not pronouncing the may. It is obviously may, even though it's named after a town in Spain that was spelled with an H, Mahon.
Ma-o-nez. Is that where Patrick Mahomes got his name? No, that's not where Patrick Mahomes got his name. And God, I hope this is... I don't know when this is airing after the Super Bowl, but God, I hope he doesn't have another ring. Give it to Jalen Hurts. Give it to Jalen Hurts. Graf, everybody pronounces it differently. It's split so evenly between a three-syllable mayonnaise...
Mayonnaise in a two-syllable mayonnaise Yeah, sorry. We literally could not solve that whatsoever. I just did I told them to call it Mayo Well, do you see the district graph is you bestie? I'm on the show the graph. I'm not crazy. There's a graph Look at the graph look at this graph Well, I can't we got nickelback
Patrick Mahomes, and mayonnaise all in the same conversation. Totally easy. David Miscavige. And David Miscavige. Who's that? Oh, the Scientology guy? I knew it. Bad person. Well, I'm so sorry. I really thought when you said I was hoping you'd settle a debate for me, I'd be like, of course we can. Thousands have asked us. 100% success rate. No. We don't follow up with any of them. I could have told you about pecan versus pecan. I could have told you about any of that. No, not mayonnaise versus mayonnaise.
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