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Why We Need to Change The Way We Think About Race & How DEI, Identity Politics & Wokeness Have Likely Furthered Racial Divides

2025/6/20
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Coleman Hughes: 我认为2013年是美国种族关系的一个转折点。iPhone和社交媒体的普及改变了信息传播的方式，算法会筛选信息，展示给最容易被激怒的人，从而促成了一种“警察随意枪杀黑人”的叙事。这种叙事为批判种族理论等意识形态的传播打开了大门。如果你身处一个过度关注种族的意识形态中，你会被训练成立刻认为自己受到了歧视是因为自己是黑人。我认为每一代人都是一个机会，可以真正超越对种族的痴迷和分裂。我不相信有任何科学依据表明你可以继承你没有亲身经历的事情的创伤。 Mayim Bialik: 我认为我们被告知的关于看待种族的方式，可能受到了某种议程的影响。我们今天要分析媒体，特别是社交媒体，对我们看待世界的方式的影响。我确实相信我们国家某些方面是根植于种族主义的。 Jonathan Cohen: 我认为影响我们看待种族的议程，并非来自左派或右派，而是我们自从有了科技以来一直生活在其中的议程。2013年种族关系开始恶化，这是由社交媒体算法追求利益的动机所驱动的，这些算法旨在引发愤怒。我们如何看待种族，已经影响了一切，从大学校园的冲突到身份政治，身份政治为很大一部分人打开了大门，他们说我们需要不同的东西，而这种不同以唐纳德·特朗普的形式出现。科尔曼·休斯还将与我们讨论真正的种族平等是什么样的，以及如何通过更平衡地理解真正的平等和真正的公平来实现目标。

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This chapter explores the significant decline in race relations since 2013, attributing it to the rise of smartphones and social media. The spread of information through algorithms prioritizing outrage amplified existing racial tensions and provided fertile ground for ideologies like critical race theory to gain traction.
  • Decline in race relations started around 2013.
  • Smartphones and social media played a significant role in amplifying racial tensions.
  • Algorithms prioritized outrage, maximizing engagement and shaping narratives.
  • Critical Race Theory gained traction due to the amplified racial narratives.

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What if everything you thought you knew about race, racism, and social justice was only part of the story?

 

In this explosive episode, Coleman Hughes, (Free Press writer, podcast host of Conversations with Coleman, and author of The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America) joins Mayim and Jonathan for a deep, nuanced discussion about identity, equality, and the role of technology in shaping cultural narratives. From the rise of critical race theory and the decline of race relations post-2013 to the algorithmic outrage fueled by social media, Hughes breaks down the data behind America’s polarization and makes the case for true colorblindness. Is DEI making things better or worse? Are inherited trauma and systemic racism scientifically valid concepts? Hughes tackles how identity politics gave rise to Donald Trump, the difference between neo-racism and old-school racism and why he believes we need to talk about race less, not more.

 

Whether you agree or disagree, this is a must-watch for anyone grappling with today’s culture wars. Don't miss this thought-provoking dialogue.

 

Conversations with Coleman Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/conversations-with-coleman/id1716338488)

 

Coleman Hughes' Book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/671726/the-end-of-race-politics-by-coleman-hughes/)

 

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