746. 2025 PROPHECY: The Future of Humanity and AI with Richard Rudd of The Gene Keys
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from. We're looking to find the magic in the human experience. Buckle up, baby. Your evolution is waiting. Hello and welcome to Almost 30 Podcast. Hi, everybody. It's Lindsay and Krista. We're together in LA in your new home, and I'm so happy to be here. It's

Quite the experience. I think it's great. People keep knocking on my door. People keep contractors are here every day of my life. Yeah. Having a home is a, it's a vibe.

As a woman, I take out the trash once a week and I am like, I need a man. Honestly, I broke down boxes the other day and I made it a rage ritual. Oh, yeah, dude. I was like, I'm going to rip apart and break down all these boxes and make it part of my healing. There's so many rules when you live, whether it's in a neighborhood or whatever. I'm sure the trash people have a 10 list rule. Cannot do this. Can't do that. Yeah, no. In a building, you're like, sorry, I put...

an old like floor lamp in there for you. A hundred percent. I'm like, let me dump shards of glass into this trash. And this one, it's like, it has to be perfectly primmed and primed. And I just had this, I've had people like looking into my house a lot. It's weird. That's why I'm getting all my curtains. But like I had someone filming outside my house the other day.

I don't know what it is. I'm going to get a gun. I literally, I saw two people looking, filming in my house. I'm like, I'm buying guns. You just need signs on your lawn that says,

I love guns and I've got a ring. Yeah, that's so true. I actually am buying, hopefully none of the robbers that know where I live hear this, but I'm going to buy fake cameras to put around my place. Yeah. Because I don't want a ring. I have so many friends that have a ring and they're addicted to watching their ring and it like causes them distress. Yeah. Where they're like, oh, package is out the door. Oh, raccoon crossed. I don't like the notification. It's like, why? I don't want to know if there's someone pacing in front of my house. Yeah, 100%. Like...

I've been at, there's one of my couple friends

Kaylee and Danielle, my favorite people. But every time I'm with them, ring is popping. I don't understand people who have notifications popping up all day. That's my mom. My mom notifications all day, every day from apps she doesn't use. It's like Candy Crush. There's a new Bible verse available. It's like Candy Crush, new level unlocked. I'm like, yo, you're nervous as if you don't realize. Actually, what are my notifications? My notifications are Air One.

It's like Air One Delivery. Okay. A Course in Miracles. I have a Course in Miracles app. Open Table. Facetune. Duh. They've got a new filter. Yeah, they're like, keep up the good work, lady. Equinox. Activations. I love activations. Uh-huh. The Real Real and Class Pass. Yeah, a lot of these need to go.

I'm trying to sell my old dude. Did I tell you, this is crazy. So you guys know the real, real, which is an app that you can resell your clothes. So last year I sold a lot of my clothes to, um, or I gave a lot of clothes to thread up. I gave a lot of clothes to friends and then nice clothes. I had real, real come over. They got 70 things from real world. I know this is crazy. So in high school, I bought a Chanel bag on eBay, $500.

of money I made serving at that time. And I was like, I need to invest this in Chanel. I thought it was fake to be honest, my whole life. I was like, Oh, it's fake. Like whatever. Now they're selling it on real, real for $2,800. No, it's not insane. It's real. I had a Chloe bag. I thought I bought a Chloe bag on eBay in high school too. And I thought it was fake.

Yes. Mark Jacobs' stand bag. I literally, I didn't buy, they were saying they were real on eBay, but I assumed they were fake. I was like, you know, it's probably fake. But no, I now am like, the Mark Jacobs bag is like $22,000. The other bag, the Khloe bag. I was like, $22,000? You should quit your job. Yes, I know. I was like, it's actually a Birkin crocodile. It's actually Khloe Kardashian's. They stole it from her house. Oh,

Isn't that funny though? I thought they were fake. That's crazy. I know. Damn. But they're still listed. So hopefully I'll cash that check soon. Okay. So when it sells, you get, yeah. When it sells. Well, my Louboutins, honey, that I spent my entire one paycheck on in, when I was in my twenties in Chicago, I made $75. I wore them twice. They were too small for my feet. Yeah.

They only paid you $700. That's crazy. It was crazy. Well, they were... They make what? Like 70% or 50%? Yeah, 70% or something. At the time, they were $700 shoes, which was like a different game. Yeah. And I remember I wore them to go visit my ex at the time and was like, he's going to...

lose his mind when he sees these red bottoms on me. Didn't notice, didn't care. Of course not. What do you mean? I was like, why? Are Louboutins still cool? No. Maybe in the Midwest or like somewhere that's not. It was a thing. I remember all my, one of my friends had like 12 pairs of Louboutins in her closet and it was like such a vibe. It was like, whoa. And then she had the Celine's. Yeah. That was her journey.

Chicago was actually designer, very designer focused, very like label focused. Pretty good fashion in Chicago actually. Because it's kind of cold. It's either like Lululemon or high fashion. Well, it's cold. There's a good street style in the city. Okay. I haven't seen it. Dude, I know. In the city, maybe I'm insane.

I believe maybe I have no style fashionable friends. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I'm going to like, yeah, I don't know. I'm like, I was wearing like, maybe I'm focusing on the guys and I'm like, guys, this is, this is like just mediocre. That's a big, that's a great point. You know, but I feel like in general, this is a great topic in general. Men's fashion has improved. I think, I think men are now more fashionable than ever, even in a way that could be too far.

I agree with that. Why do you think that is? Because there's more brands available that are kind of like on Instagram. Yeah. I was talking to one of Sean's friends the other day and he's like, yeah, like Instagram now like serves me so much of my wardrobe. It's so easy. Yeah. I think they have access to shopping for them more. I think the ads are getting smarter. I think they are seeing men that are dressing better on Instagram. Yeah. I definitely think in sports too, in sports now,

it's moments like the athletes are very fashion focused. So now it's a sport sports are making it cool for them to dress well. So they're now kind of dressing more. I think social media. Totally. I'm laughing. I'm laughing at myself in my head. Cause I'm like, this will come out. I don't even know what, yeah, I don't even know what I'm going to say. I was, I'm going to not soon. I'm going to not say what I was going to say, but I'll say what I want to say later. Yeah.

Um, I am so excited about this episode of Richard Rudd. So Richard Rudd is the founder of Gene Keys. He's an author. He's like a prolific shaman mystic teacher. One of my favorite teachers and writers of all time period. The end I recorded with Richard, I think like six months ago. And I don't know if I've said this on the podcast, but this is almost 30 lore. We have had maybe nine to 10 episodes over the years, probably from 2016 when we started. Um,

audio messed up, video messed up. We lose the files, something gets corrupt. And almost all of them have been men. I think all of them have been when we've recorded with men, which is so crazy. I can think of like four people off the bat every time. So we, I recorded with Richard and I don't know what happened to the files. Like I recorded over that or something happened. And it's hard when you, with us, this is like

inside baseball, but you record far in advance. There's three different files, my file, their file, like your file. So, and then there's the intros, there's the outros, there's the ads. There's a lot of different things that happened, but something happened. I don't know. So thank God I could rerecord with him.

And it was actually even better this time because we could talk about the prophecy that Gene Keys talks about. So a lot of the changes within, um, culture and society and sort of the feelings that a lot of really intuitive and psychic people are having right now are very in alignment with the prophecy that he's seeing for sort of the new human that's coming onto earth, the new consciousness that's coming online and, um, the new paradigm that we're living in. Um,

So it's an even better episode, but I was bummed because I just, you feel so bad and embarrassed. You're like, oh,

I know we're a professional business and we have to rerecord. I know. What was he a joy? Joy and a delight and pleasure. And honestly, the first one, it was kind of like that one time where I was with Zach Bush and we talked about octopuses for like 45 minutes on the podcast. It was like me and Richard were talking about his cats for maybe 35 minutes. Yeah. They were in the screen playing around and I was like, Oh, what's he like? And then I was like asking about him. He's like, they're both boys. I'm like, they're crazy. And he's like, yeah. And they jump up here and we were talking about his like cats. Yeah.

So it is talking about what he sees in the prophecy starting in 2025 to 2027. So all the shifts and changes that people have been feeling that we're experiencing, we talk a lot about that. We talk about AI. Mm-hmm.

And we talk about the effects of AI on culture and society. He talked about Donald Trump and Donald Trump's gene keys and Elon Musk's gene keys and what they mean for them and what they mean for us as a society and a culture. We talked about codependency and how codependency is one of the things that we're really working to heal as a collective now to step into our power.

and how that impacts people. And so we talked about the specific gene keys for codependency. We talked about how it impacts women so much more than men and how he sees women being able to support themselves and stepping out of codependency. It just was like, this is such a good one. He's so prolific and so powerful and he's able to be playful and funny and light. And I had the best time.

I, um, Kristen, I, I forget when we found out we had the same gene keys, but this happens like all the time. We had blue of earth on and she's an amazing gene key expert and her podcast was great. And in it, we discovered that we have the same gene key. So you can have a few, but the main one we have, which is 22, which is the best one. It's the best one. I have it as my phone background. Can you recite it?

As we have already heard, the 22nd gene key is very special. There is no getting around this statement. Written into the evolutionary script are certain anomalies and divine cosmic surprises. In this respect, there is no other gene key that rivals the 22nd.

It's what makes the mythic drama of life so compelling. It's called the Akashic Ocean. It's grace, like infinite grace, which I think you, yeah, grace would be like a word I would use to define you is grace and bitch. Yeah, bitch, baby. Honestly. Big old bitch. Yeah.

Yeah, I have the thick-ass book of the gene keys. Oh, yeah. I've read about my gene keys, but it's very dense. Very dense. I just kind of leaf through it for inspiration and kind of just...

to get like a good quote of the day, just tap into his consciousness. Um, so if you guys are gene key fans, this is going to be a really powerful one. If you're fans of Richard, this is going to be a great one. If you're someone that's tapped in someone that's psychic, someone that's feeling a lot of what's happening in the collective right now, this is going to be really important for you to understand what's coming as far as, um, the prophecy that's been seen.

seen for our collective and for humanity. And I think I've been feeling pretty crazy lately. So I'm excited to listen to this again and really, really tune in. Awesome. Thank you all for listening. We appreciate you. Not sure if you're watching on YouTube, but we have our book right here and I just had to shout it out because right now when you purchase our book, you get some incredible bonuses. We're really excited to offer these to you.

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Richard Rudd of the Gene Keys. You can find the Gene Keys at genekeys.com. We were talking about the Pearl Sequence, which is a new offering he has out now. We talked more about that and that will be in the show notes as well. So you guys can tap into that. We love you. Enjoy. Okay. I think my number one supplement is

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You know, what's funny is I actually just wrote down because it's fun when I get to sit with people. I get to like be in their field for for a while before and a while after. So it was so just the best to be in your field this morning. And just I was like laughing and just having so such a pleasant time. Yeah.

And AI was something I wanted to talk about. So we can even just kind of roll into it. There's a lot of things I want to talk about with the new things that you're doing. I want to talk about the 2025 to 2027. I want to talk about the future human, the solar plexus. Like there's a lot of things that, you know, we'll be able to dig into. But AI was something that I was really curious to talk to you about just because

It's something that I think people approach with a lot of fear and a lot of curiosity and a lot of unknown. And I think you're such a voice for helping us to bridge to the future and helping us to really see the opportunities and where we're going and also the shadows, of course. So how do you view from your perspective AI?

Well, you know, it's one of those subjects that if you approach it kind of holistically and really do your research, which is what we've tried to do, myself and my team,

you know, it has a lot of nuance in it. And so it's not just a simple, like, isn't it wonderful? It's going to save the planet. It's like, it has two sides, as you said, it's, it's got the side that is incredible and is going to help us advance in lots of different, really amazing areas from medicine to technology, you know, all kinds of technologies and, and hopefully technologies that are very positive and for the planet.

and for us communicating. But then also the other side of it is it does use a huge, it uses a huge amount of energy. Um, and so it's actually in some respect contributing to, uh, global warming and, and, um, you know, climate change. And that's the side of it that the people who are really into it don't like being reminded of. Um,

And so you sort of have to take a view, I think, and do your research. So we are looking at sort of ways of using it in Gene Keys that try not to utilize the kind of energy expense side of it. So for example, some people approached us and said, can we AI the Gene Keys, right? And so that was like a couple of years ago.

we said what do you mean by that um and because what we didn't really want to do is have all the gene keys words and things that i've written over the time sort of cobbled together by an ai um you know because i i don't know that as an author i or a speaker i want to to pr i want to kind of retain the integrity of

how things emerge according to my poetic nature now other people are different they'd love having you know combining and stuff but i think it's i didn't want to sort of change the poetry um and the frequency that was that was built out of certain you know ways in which words are used or i use words personally so there was that side of it um

But what you can do is you can, this is, I think what we're, we are going to be building this year is you can build an interface that doesn't have to kind of troll the whole internet, which is where the energy is used up.

but actually just trawls or kind of uses your own realm and then just helps you and guides you. So that's what I'd like to do with it is to help people find things more quickly that are more appropriate to them and what they want and what they need. And so from that point of view, it can be amazing, I think. And it doesn't use a massive amount of energy doing that.

Um, but the, you know, you have to take a view, I think. And, um, you know, and people say all kinds of things. And, um, I, I, I think I've always said, Christa, that, you know, technology, we, we're the technology we are. And it's very easy to get focused on like,

technology that's going to kind of help save us and get incredibly focused on it. It will probably, I mean, I've said this, it will probably create more division on our planet because it's in the hands of, you know, people, many people who probably aren't thinking like we're thinking and they don't, they're not bothered about the ethics of it. And then, you know, that's immaterial. That's a low degree

down thing for them. And so they're going to blast away. And, um, as it's happening now and a huge amounts of, um, energy will be used. And, um, without us really thinking about it, probably inventions will come out without us really thinking about them. I mean, it's incredible already, isn't it? That it can temper with truth in lots of ways. Um,

It can change, you know, I can be speaking Portuguese in my own voice. I, someone did that for me recently and I was like quite, I was very impressed with it. You're like, wow. I had no idea what I was saying. Um, but, um. You're doing some spiritual incantation. You're like, oh. I know. I was waiting sort of for the Arabic one. I was like, can we try that? Um, but yeah, so I think it's a, it's a very exciting thing and we, you know, not that we should fear it, but, um,

I think it will probably, I mean, I'm not a doom gloom guy, but I think it probably will create more division. It probably will speed up climate change and it will test us more. But it will also almost certainly create incredible great breakthroughs that are very helpful to large groups of people. You know, whether that, you know, whether that's in Europe,

you know, wherever that is and however that is. So it has different sides, but I think, you know, it's just important for us to kind of know as much as we can about it and, and,

Um, and then we each have to tread our own course, our own ethical course with it. I think, I don't know, are you, are you using it in any way? What's your view? What's my view? Um, you know, I just was kind of going in a few different directions when you're talking. So at first I was, you know, hesitant about it. And then I've, you know, kind of seen within the business, there are a lot of different time-saving things. There's very logical reasons why we want it.

I just, I do find it interesting. I think there's this quote and I'm going to be misquoting it, but it talks about the fact that AI is now replacing activities that are creative rather than the activities that are kind of like the ones that we want to have replaced, like doing laundry or cleaning the house or things like that. But now AI is like chat GPT, writing articles, creating content, writing books, doing all of these things.

And I think that's when it can get a little bit slippery and sticky. And I'm curious if it'll be even more potent and powerful when you have someone that's actually using the consciousness of their own as a writer. Because, you know, just an example with your writing, it's like you can feel something.

and hear your voice. Like you're transported when you read your work. And so you can feel that from a certain level. And I'm curious if when you're using AI, you'll be able, like the AI will be able to tap into that specific consciousness and pull from that and create its own

or if we'll still as humans be able to feel like the authenticity and the truth of like a human consciousness or a human vibration through some of the work that people have. I think it'll be something where, you know, the first years of it, the next couple of years will be used for not the greatest good potentially, you know, for like the lower vibrational experiences or things. And then eventually, hopefully we can use it for things that are more beneficial to the planet, things related to nature, things related to the health of our

you know, our world because there's so much opportunity like recycling as an example, like the fact that we can't use it for recycling or cleaning up the oceans or things that are very, very basic and seem very simple, like as an entry point. So I guess it's probably a consciousness thing where,

We need to elevate to a consciousness level where we're desiring to use AI for the perspective of the global benefit to nature and earth and humanity. But right now, maybe our consciousness is meeting AI at the consciousness level where it's just for greed or just for like, you know, those lower vibrational frequencies like sex or money or, you know, that type of thing.

Yeah. And I think you're right about creativity. That's an area where it actually isn't really needed. What's needed is for us to find our own creativity because that's the solution to the sort of mental health problems and the anxiety that so many of us have. Because creativity is just so rewarding and, you know, for us, for our inner being. And it's what we're here for.

And yeah, I mean, I'm not against like a friend who's writing books using it because he's dyslexic, which is wonderful. You know, you can use it as a tool

to assist you. And I think that's great. Um, but again, it's up to each of us. I mean, there's a couple of books come out on gene keys, you know, that were written in five minutes, I'm sure, um, on AI and, um, no one sort of approached me or asked me if my opinion or permission or anything like that, but it's like, I'm sure in like a,

five years, there'll probably be hundreds. And I kind of bought them and read them and I wanted to know. But it didn't actually even say that they were until the very back page. And then it said, this is written by AI.

Um, and, and of course they're quite good, you know, they're quite good in the way that they make it palatable and presentable for people. And from that point of view, you know, it's, it's good. Um, but yeah, in the, in the hands of whatever frequency, um, I just, I'm, I'm concerned for the creativity of humans that, um, we get lazy and, um,

We forget to do, you know, the basic things, working with our hands and right brain things that are really important and so good for us.

Yeah, let's talk a little bit about that because I do think that that's something that a lot of people are seeing, feeling and experiencing. And the conversation around AI essentially is the prioritization of productivity or creativity or the creative act. Because if we are choosing to have Chad GPT write the book, it's choosing to have it done quickly rather than choosing to be in process.

with the creation of things. And I think people are just so desperate to do more in less time and sort of be in the mind. What do you, what would you say about that? Is there a gene key that represents sort of this happening? Where do you see us going? I think it's really interesting because I like, I'm, you know, I was looking, I've been looking at recently, I, um, it'll be coming out one of these days soon. Um, I did a, a, a gene keys profile reading for Donald Trump

And, and, um, and no, I just recorded it as though he were that, as though he were with me. And, um, and I kind of enjoyed it and I'm going to do more, but anyway, I was looking at Elon Musk and, um, and one of the, and I thought I might do him as well. And, and I noticed that his life's work was about stillness, you know, it was GeneKey52.

And, and the more I dove, just, just contemplated looking at his profile, the more I saw, um, you know, the inner world, the inner, the inner being there. And I, and I, it kind of, it, you just reminded me of it because that, that, that gene key 52, um,

which is the one that's about stress, you know, it, you know, the shadow is stress, but the, the highest aspect of it is stillness is stillness and, you know, deep quiet, you know, and in a way that's like, that's what we're, what you're saying, we're in a hurry and we're kind of rushing and we're trying to get to the product.

And we're missing the contemplative journey, which is the healing journey, the transformation. So you can't sort of skip transformation. You can't skip the shadow and get straight to the city, you know, the highest aspect. So,

Um, I think that, you know, I think it's really interesting feeling into, I mean, that's what I think so lovely about Gene Keys is that it shows you, well, what is, what is, what am I, what is the highest thing I I'm here to show up with? And, and we all kind of present whichever level or frequency we're able to, um, and

And we create that out in the environment. But, you know, if you were someone that had that 52 there, it would be like really creating a deep stability in the world, you know, a deep sense of calm, a deep sense of inner truth and slowing down and the opposite of speeding up. You know, like you could even say that slowing down is the new speeding up, you know, something like that. It's like,

Some you know that the highest frequencies can only be accessed when you slow way way down Which is why the ancients have always meditated and they've always gone inside and they've closed their eyes and they've gone into stillness Because that's the only way we can access these heightened states of consciousness and then we are the technology and

But yeah, so I don't know if I answered your question. No, you did. It's kind of interesting, I guess, that... I just think you wanted to talk about Trump. Yeah. I think that was, we just want to talk about Trump. But... Happy to. It's, yeah. Okay, wait. So yeah, what do you perceive about Trump? Well, you know, all the political stuff aside, just looking at his profile, some things jump out. And I kind of...

I, you know, I'm interested in what's the heightened state of this, of a being, you know, what, what, you know, and I can, I will show, I will show them the shadows and I'll say, look, here's something to watch out for. But ultimately I'm really interested in, in like, what is it a, what, what does it look like if you show up fully? And there was a lovely meme. I don't know if you've seen it. Like, this is what would happen if Donald Trump took ayahuasca. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah.

It's somewhere circulating on the internet. And there's someone put together an AI video of, of president Trump taking ayahuasca and then meeting his demons and transforming it and then becoming the best shaman in the world. You know, this beautiful, and actually that was what I, when I, when I did his, his reading, I, his profile reading, that was what I, I, I saw, I saw this incredible, incredible,

um, emanation. And he has this key 53, which, um, people might resonate with because the, um, the low frequency is called immaturity and it's just simply, uh, immature behavior that isn't aware of itself. Um, like a child, um, just kind of, you know, um, but that, and so it's the basis, but it's the basis of expansion, which is the gift and the, and the, it's this expansion of consciousness, the expansion of love.

the expansion of, you know, innocence and really beautiful things and the creative, you know, creativity and all kinds of things. And then the heightened frequency is super abundance, which is, you know, you could see it kind of

You could see it at a low frequency as well, like superabundance might be in the hands of immaturity, would just go on creating more and more and more and more and more in an unsustainable way on the outside, whereas superabundance is a city. So it's referring to an inner state, not an outside state.

So we look, you know, for our heightened state on the outside through the shadow frequency. We're looking for it in the environment. We think that that's what is going to fulfill us. And so it's about transforming that, expanding your awareness,

And then you've, and then, you know, for Donald Trump, he would find that super abundance deep inside, but it would come in the same way as, you know, you could imagine him and Elon sitting together and Elon in his deep stillness and Donald in his incredible, just this waves of, of ecstatic, super abundant bliss, which super abundance is about being. It's the being is what is super abundant. Super abundant is, is being itself. It's the waves of just

when you come into your height highest state of consciousness it's pure being but you we experience it as just this constant wave upon wave of the of the universe showering us with good fortune um you know because that's the that's the universal that's that's the universal law of love of unconditional love the universe operates off so when we go deep within

That's when we access those heightened states. But you can see also, you can see how it's played out. And so I would guide Donald and Elon to go within and find these states that they're trying to manifest on the outside, try and find them on the inside, because that's the only way that any of us are going to find a deep fulfillment. Otherwise, we're always unfulfilled. We're always...

not happy and next we get to Mars and then we're not happy to get to the next place and then we're not happy and it's an endless exhausting quest

Which I think, you know, if we think about, and I don't know if it's the gene key that represents or Donald Trump that represents, but it's so representative of where we are collectively, you know, just this constant outward seeking of validation or of, you know, acceptance or of love. And it's also the immaturity, you know, there's so much immaturity within our culture and society. And I think, um,

Maybe I'm biased. I don't know. Maybe I'm biased because I think about my parents and I'm like, that's an immature generation. But I think we're kind of moving on to a little bit more maturity. Hey, I might be one of them. I know. I was like, not you. You're different. You're a different man. But there's this level of immaturity that we think can be solved by materialism or by things outside of us. So it's really just such a mirror for where we are as a collective. Something I wanted to...

talk about as it relates to sort of like the prophecy and what we're moving into, especially in 2025 through 2027, was around the solar plexus. You know, you've been talking a little bit about the impact or sort of the relationship of the solar plexus to sort of where we're going as a culture and society.

And I was thinking about that because I always think about the solar plexus as it relates to codependency and sort of our desire and connection to others and sort of defining ourselves based on other people. And I think codependency has been such a theme of what the collective is going through. You know, I've seen it a lot through the women that I work with and through our community. I've really struggled with codependency, whether it's in my relationships or whether it's my codependency with social media or anything outside of myself.

Can you talk a little bit about what you're sort of seeing in the future and how the solar plexus can relate potentially to codependency? Yeah, I think it's a good question. I think that, you know, when we refer to the solar plexus, when I refer to it, I'm talking about anything below the diaphragm. So that whole area of our body, of our being, our microbiome. And, you know, in many ancient kind of cultures,

Um, they've, there's all kinds of mythology and energetics connected with this area of our body, whether it's the Dan Tian from China or the Hara from Japan. And most cultures have, um, uh, you know, some kind of deep connection that they, you know, the, the river of life comes from here. And, um,

the umbilical cord is there. So it got slightly co-opted by the chakra system because the chakras are presented as a ladder, which is amazing. But what it does is it sort of then you have to, you know, you have to kind of, you sort of leave it behind. So there's a sense of like, well, we leave that one behind, then we move up higher and we're sort of ascending out as opposed to kind of descending in. So I think in a way,

The solar plexus is about grounding and embodying and bringing higher frequencies down and into the body rather than escaping out into the nirvana, which is, I think, those days of that kind of spiritual conditioning is sort of slipping away a bit now, I'm happy to say. So we're not the up and out philosophy. We're the down and in. We've got to bring the high frequencies into this plane and

And that's, I think, why we're also at this point where we're learning so much about a microbiome and we're learning how critical it is to longevity, to health, to balance. And we're realizing that it doesn't stop here, that there are multiple microbiomes. They're all over the place and they actually are through the air. So we're part of a much bigger biome and there are biomes all around us.

And so the solar plexus then becomes like this incredible area of exchange of information, of genetic information and energetic information. And so for many people, because I worked for many years as a body worker, I don't know if you know this, and in my early sort of 20s, I was a body worker specializing on the belly, on all the systems in the belly.

And it's where trauma is very powerfully kind of encoded, you know, in the intestinal tract and in the organs in there.

So as you work with your hands inside others' belly or inside your own belly, you start to kind of unravel some of the trauma that's kept there. And then it opens up, your breath opens up, your diaphragm opens up, and you start to drop into the kind of umbilical breathing, these deep breaths, these deep breath patterns, the rhythmic breath patterns. Like, you know, if you've ever held...

put your hand on a very young child's belly. The best. You know, my children, I used to love doing that one. When they're so round and they puff, they're the best. And it's like a baseball, it's like a basketball in there. 100%. Yeah. A dream. And there's no, because there's no tension yet. There's no learned trauma yet. So it's just doing this incredible thing.

you know, breath, the whole body is breathing. Because then, especially as women, we learn to breathe in, you breathe the stomach in rather than breathing it out. Exactly. Exactly. And then we, we fall into chest breathing and, you know, and so, you know, working with all the things that we do and from Pilates to yogas or whatever it is, just to help bring our breath and breath work itself back down into the belly and

And for me, contemplation is a perfect way because the art of contemplation helps us to slow down and then we tune into our breathing and we will take deeper breaths naturally as we become more contemplative person.

So that belly then, you know, in terms of the future consciousness, I feel like it's the, um, it's the place where the bear, where the baby is, you know, it's the, because it's where the microbiome is. It's where the mass of our DNA is, you know, the bacterial DNA is, is, you know, it's all that it's like 80% of our DNA is there in the gut.

So that's where the new consciousness is emerging and mutations in the new consciousness are merging in the gut and the gut biome in the bacterial gut biome because the bacteria your bacteria amazing because they you know They're they're sort of little mini beings of light and they can photosynthesize light. You know, they they have We sort of know this like fight like they could they they can kind of attract photons and they can they can kind of manipulate light and

And so that is an area, you know, as these mutations occur, you know, as predicted at least through the Jinkies prophecies, you know, I think that's how it's going to operate. And I had really interesting discussions with Zach Bush about this. He has a lot to say with his medical experience. And this notion of a new awareness emerging from that place that interconnects us. And the other thing I want to say is that

Recently, I don't know if you've tuned into the telepathy tapes yet. I just started listening last night because a friend recommended and I'm fully locked in. So please go. Well, they're doing the rounds and it's this notion that there are new children coming into the world and they've been coming into the world for some time. Originally, we called them indigo children and we had names for them and stuff.

but they've been there and um some of these mutations are taking place already in the forerunners um and we're seeing it particularly in these autistic children um where you know they're they're showing that they have a networked consciousness um and that they can read minds and that they have um extra century capacities and abilities even though they most of them can't speak

And so anyway, I'd recommend that amazing transmission through the telepathy takes for anyone who hasn't heard it. But for me, when I heard that and also met Susie Miller recently, who appears on the tapes, and I'm going to be doing some things with her coming up, I was saying how, look, these are the children. This is where the mutation is taking hold.

and it will continue to roll out in children who are being born, not all children, because mutations don't work like that. They come in like little spring flowers and they start popping up all over the place. And then the body, the physical body, the old body has to adapt and it has to integrate the new mutation. And then, so it's going to take, you know, decades and even hundreds of years for us to fully integrate it as a species.

But what it means is that new possibilities are opening up for us to experience consciousness outside our body in a networked collective form. And that's a tough one for like the mainstream to even get its head around. But for those of us who are watching online,

what's with you know the real news not the kind of news of what's decaying but the news of what's being born that's what we're seeing and experiencing such an incredible time and I'm really excited to sort of find out more about that myself and and meet some of these children and and yeah I think we're going to be tracking them I think we're going to be learning more about our future selves and

Because I think that's what's happening. So it's a very exciting area. Yeah, it's beautiful because, you know, with...

autism, it like turns off specific aspects of even the codependency or the social elements that we've sort of been programmed over time to have or rely on or be over-indexing on. And so it's kind of turning inward to the self and then to the networks of sort of what's going on in the collective or what's going on through the people. But there's, yeah, there's some books

I remember about these children. They were in Asia and it was in the 80s and there was groups of them. And there was this sort of experience of their connection telepathically across the world. But when we think about, you know, the new split,

And the old, like the old version and the new version of, of this. So we can talk about, you know, some of the children coming online for some of the people that are living now, I can't help, but include myself in this. How, how do we see, like, are we receiving different frequencies and codes? Are we having our gut microbiome change? Like what would someone who's experiencing the new change or this evolution or this, um, consciousness coming online be experiencing right now?

Well, I think, you know, when we open ourselves up to higher frequencies, you know, so when we do this transforming of the shadows of our trauma, that's really the only way that we can safely open up to higher frequencies. But as we do that, then I think that we are actually creating the mutation inside us. So I think it's always been that way that,

people who go into deep heightened states of consciousness, you know, experience rushes of epiphanies, you know, and an epiphany, I talk about this in my little book on contemplation. Um, if an epiphany is a cellular transmutation experience, you know, and so it rushes through your body and it can last quite a long time and it's,

It's when a shadow pattern or a traumatic ancestral pattern is literally burnt from our DNA. It's expunged. It's vaporized. And so when we have those spontaneous experiences...

because we're doing this inner work, that is our mutation. So we are then create, we're helping to create that frequency in the world because we're impacting the collective consciousness, you know, and also the deeper we go in our own wounding process, in our own journey into that process,

As we go really deep, we start to access the collective wounding. You know, we start to kind of use up our individual wounding. We start to go deeper into the collective wound that we're carrying, like the trauma of our ancestry. And so that's intense work. You know, we have to transmute that with the light that we're opening up to, you know, the illumination. And so it then becomes like a...

it becomes a, its own journey, you know, the inner journey becomes self illuminating and, um, and it gathers its own momentum because we start to be, that's why I call it, I talk about the dragon fly, you know, is that we start to become this other being. And so we are, you know, but we're even in an, even in an older style body, you know, and, and there may be limitations to that, but, um, it, the bliss is not limited. Um,

But we may still die in the same, you know, but what I'm looking at in the future human, everything could be different. You know, we might live much longer in order that we can house this higher consciousness. So it's designed, the new human is designed to house higher consciousness. Whereas we're a little bit old fashioned, these ones. But that doesn't mean we can't.

optimize them you know and i think we can i think we really can and i think we can stretch them in new ways um and create you know create new forms of harmonics and i think that can be even more empowered when we're around these future children you know when we're actually in physically in their presence and we're in in a higher presence together um

um even just uh even us soul groups um in those higher frequencies that's what also creates potential for kind of wormholes to open up you know and all kind of you know miracles the miraculous you know i'm always tracking the miraculous how do you view miracles like what is your i'm a course in miracles girl through and through how do you view and experience miracles

Yeah. I mean, I've got, I'm writing this book at the moment. It's called The Sage and it's my sort of I Ching of all the jinkies. And it's, it's taking me, um, I've been writing for about four years. So you've got to get chat GPT, Richard. Got to just, you want to get this done today? I can do it in five minutes, but I'm doing one a day. Today's your chance. Yeah. Anyway, there's one which there's one of them, there's 384 of them. They're little bits of poetry as well that have, that come to me. There's one called Miracles Are Gritty. And, and, and,

Miracles. So for me, miracles are not wafty. You know, they are like intense, like the preparation that we have to undergo in order to either witness or embody or, you know, be around or catalyze a miracle. It's intense. The purification that we have to go through. And I don't mean sort of like purification in the sense of like austerities or

I mean really embracing what life brings us on a daily basis, really just listening and trusting in the universal codes of our destiny and doing the work, the transmutational work. That's what opens us up to miracles. And sometimes they come, I don't know, I had this feeling once, like I had this memory of like,

sort of super miracle happening, you know, I think it was from another realm and It came to me and it was like thunder You know, it was like it's like I heard the thunder in the distance and then it gathered and it became strong You know how Thunder sometimes the thunderstorm comes closer and closer and closer and as a child or in the I'm still doing it like you count the distance between the flashes and the thunder because you want to know whether it's going what you know coming closer and

And that was how I experienced a miracle occurring is that it came closer. I could feel it resonating and coming closer and closer and closer. And then when it came,

It just shook the very ground of reality and you were swept up in it. And I couldn't even say what that specific miracle was, but it just swept you into its embrace. And anyone who was anywhere near was like, just as the thunderclap does, it just blasts everyone open.

Anyway, so that was my experience. But yeah, I think they're pretty gritty. Yeah, it's interesting in Law of One, which is one of my favorite texts, they talk about how collectively we could all positively polarize if we all had one moment of like our conscious awareness, positively polarizing or choosing to polarize. It's almost like that miracle moment of that expansion that you talk about. And of course, in Miracles, it talks about miracles just being a correction for what is already like in existence and miracles are natural. So it's kind of like the other side of it.

But I think it's interesting because a miracle, I think what you're talking about that I align with is that you almost have to set up your consciousness or your sight to see the miracle when it comes and to be able to witness the miracle when it arises. But most people are living in such distraction or sleep or despair that they're not able to attune to what a miracle would be or what a miracle would be experienced. Right.

And I think a lot of people perceive a miracle to be things other than, or maybe this is my perception. The simplicity of miracles, I think, is brought online when you realize how perfect everything is. And you're like, wow, like a dragon flies a miracle. You know what I mean? Like sometimes like there's, there's like this range of like what could be considered a miracle. Yeah. Yeah.

Absolutely. It's like, it's those cities in the gene keys, those heightened states of consciousness, every single one of them is in the miracle field. But some of them are quite, like I said, they're quite gritty. They're quite just like compassion is a miracle where you feel the suffering of another passing through you and you take it on with such love and acceptance.

That's a miracle. Forgiveness is a miracle. You know, for someone to truly forgive, it's like that's extraordinary. Something really terrible that was done to them or even to forgive ourselves is a miracle. There's so many everyday miracles, as you said, like just when we notice the perfection or we...

become part of the perfection, that we become part of the miracle field. And I got this new teaching, I was talking to you about the star pearl. And in that, what we do is we create the field so that there's a harmonic effect.

so that a miracle can occur in the middle of it. It's a bit like my little fun course, I don't know if you did that, the Seven Days of Grace. It's a free course. It's really popular. Anyone who want to go and find it, it's online, Seven Days of Grace. And it's a seven-day little free course that's designed to give you an experience of grace. So you do these very simple little things for seven days, and then you wait until a little mini miracle happens, or it might be something quite big.

But it happens in spite of you, just because you're doing these little practices. So for me, it's about creating the conditions, as you said, so that a miracle can kind of happen in the middle. Yeah. I love that. I want to double click, underline, clip it. I think that is so beautiful because I think people want to experience miracles, be in the field of miracles. I think that's one of the things I talk about that people are often...

most excited about because I think it also is kind of the mind candy of having the opportunity of change in an instant. You know what I mean? Where you're like, wow, I get to have change in a second through this miracle. But it is like, how can we create conditions where miracles can come or miracles be birthed? I want to just talk, I want to go a little bit of...

down this cul-de-sac before we go back to star Pearl and the prophecy, you mentioned the compassion and that being a miracle. And I know that's the city of one of the gene keys. So many, the reason why I'm asking is because so many women that are listening

are deeply empathetic and they're deep feelers. And they actually have spent a lot of their time taking on the feelings and experiences of others at the detriment to their own path and purpose. Can you talk about how we can use compassion in its highest and how we can move through the codependency or move through the ways that women and especially are using, um,

are in a state where they're out of their power because they're so focused on others in a way that I think we're perceiving as compassion, but maybe isn't. Yeah. I know what you mean. You know, these words have nuance as well, don't they? So when I use the word compassion, it's, um,

I mean, I can't put it into a nice chat GBT kind of quote for you. Yeah, totally. I'm like Richard Brad talking about nuance. What do you mean? But it isn't, but I know exactly what you're saying. It, you know, it's, you know, it isn't, it's a balance, right? So compassion can be fierce, you know, it can be fierce and fearsome.

And it can be soft as butter, you know, and, you know, and delicate. And so it, but it's based on what it, it's based on self-love and it's based on deep attunement to a universal kind of pattern. So it's about the surrender of the individual self into the universal self.

And then the universal self is allowed and is trusted to such a level that compassion is always the action that emerges. And there's loads of stories from the Zen traditions and things about compassion coming out as ferocity. And you see all these in the ancient, in those lovely Buddhist scriptures.

Tibetan Buddhist tankers and these all the angry Buddhas, you know, and it's like those fearsome warrior Buddhas. And those are also the faces of compassion because they're about boundary setting, you know, and so part of self-love is about learning where you can sort of, where you're

need to help another or to serve another or to love another has to kind of occasionally meet a boundary inside yourself that just says no because otherwise you are completely being taken advantage of and you're allowing yourself to be taken advantage of or you're allowing yourself to be a victim even though it is through the it is through a good cause it's through love um

But that's a wonderful part of the journey towards compassion is when we reclaim that, you know, we reclaim that boundary. And we sometimes know that is said with love is the same as a yes. In fact, it's even better than a yes, a true yes. But it has a yes in it, you know, because you're saying yes to love, to self-love. And that means that you're kind of saying no to a behavior or a pattern that

that is coming at you from the outside that you've been agreeing to. Um, and so in a way where that's an amazing learning when a, when a woman or a man learns those, learns that skill. But I agree it happens a lot, probably more, it's more prevalent in women. Um,

But when I've seen women, you know, who I know and love reclaim that for themselves in their relationships, for example, it's like it's such a powerful moment for them and for the other, you know, because the moment you say no, you've kind of cut your codependent tie and then and then they're on their own. Like they have to they however they you cannot control how they handle that.

It may create a transformation in them that might change the relationship, you know, for the better. You might have a rebirth in the whole relationship because you've done that, you know. And sometimes it's about saying, I need to leave you. It could be, I'm leaving, right? And sometimes that statement alone opens up the conversation that never was happening. And then a transformation can occur. But that doesn't always happen, right?

You know, it's not in our control because that's where you see the soul evolution of each person. And if one is not ready to move as you're ready to move, then you can't do anything about it. You have to, there's a parting and it can be a sweet parting or it can be a not so sweet parting, but it's a parting and that has to be accepted. And that's part of the learning of compassion as well, because compassion also has to hold sadness and it has to hold, you know, but it also, um,

it never loses hope, you know, because it's able to, you're able to kind of process that sadness and then open yourself up to what's, what's next, you know? So I don't know if that. No, that was stunning. That was stunning. I was just, that was a stunning example and explanation and a perfect way for women to think about how they can be compassionate to themselves and then also compassionate to others. And I really loved that.

what you said about the no, you know, the no being sometimes even more loving. And I sound like someone that just discovered boundaries when I say that, when I'm like, I love this so much, you know, but it's true. It's just when I've found that I've been able to be in my true yes or true, no, I'm able to be in my truth in a way, in a relationship that I've never been able to experience. And then people are able to be in true relationship with me and I'm able to be in true relationship with them. And, um, I just think that was just stunning.

And so powerful. I'm so grateful that you were able to share that and kind of expound upon that for me and for our audience. Um, I want to, this is, you know, a step next to that too. So when we think about kind of the new and old versions and the new and old,

humans that are coming online too, I think I think about, and this is maybe my codependency again, but maybe I think about the, do we, are we leaving others behind? You know, if we are part of the new human or we are part of the new consciousness that is coming online, that is stepping forward into our gifts, that is stepping forward into the new earth. Um, what do you see those that are left behind or those that are not committing to their growth and their path? What do you see happening?

I think it's a forking of the paths. It's like a genetic fork. It's an energetic fork. And down this path are huge opportunities, this new path. Massive growth, spiritual growth, all kinds of beautiful harvests waiting for us.

And because we have that freedom, we have the freedom to say no. You know, I'm not right. I don't I don't want to do that. I'm not going down there. And I think what that means is that we're going to see for, you know, decades and probably hundreds of years, two types of human, one which is leaving.

and so that's literally genetic material that's leaving that's leaving the genome it's being erased it won't be brought back in so when that person dies that that lineage that dna will go with them and that doesn't mean you know if the soul inside there doesn't you know it doesn't mean they don't have another you know reality and then they they move on wherever they move on but here

it requires a wholehearted yes from those who want to kind of embrace the new. So I think we're going to see very interesting, we're beginning to see it already, I think. We're seeing old forces rising up and kind of having their death throes. It's like the fall of the Roman Empire. Towards the end of the empire, which was thousands of years ago,

towards the end you get these extraordinary kind of weird leaders that came up like Caligula and Nero and like really strange, you know, old, it's the old material leaving, the old genetic materials leaving the gene pool. And I'm not saying, I'm not saying that's anyone in particular. I'm just saying we're seeing it as a pattern as a whole, that there are old behaviors that,

that are leaving and um and they like to have their last show and and everyone has the opportunity to kind of awaken and but yeah we're going we're going to see two different types of humans as this happened before you know we had neanderthal living alongside um chromagnon for you know possibly hundreds of thousands of years i don't think that's going to be the case this time but um

It's interesting, isn't it, that as a new fork of the species emerges, those two species get to live together and learn from each other, actually. But also, there could be chaos there as well. So I think it's an interesting period coming. For sure.

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And my second question is about animals that we can go into later, but because I'm always thinking about the animals, but for a lot of people are perceiving that there is a lot of chaos. There is a lot of, a lot happening. And it's interesting because this year I was tuning into the energy at the beginning and I was like, oh, cool. This is going to be a great year. And then a few weeks and I was like, oh, wow, I didn't realize it would be so chaos energy and it would be so much change and transformation. And I didn't,

Um, I didn't see it coming as much. I see it now, but I didn't see it coming as much. And it feels like a 2020 year almost. Um, so what are you seeing in 2025? Like what is kind of your prediction besides chaos and sort of the old systems crumbling? Well, you know, in, in the Jinkies world and the mapping of like patterns it's, and, and also in this for astrologers, you know, um,

you know, with Pluto's moving into Aquarius and then Jinkies, that's Pluto moving into Jinkie 41. Um, that's an incredible moment. Um, always because it's the, it engages a new, a completely new pattern, a new paradigm that doesn't happen for 250 years. So it's incredible to be, to be alive now as that's happening. Maybe even today or tomorrow, I think it is. It's very soon. It's, and, and it's, and it's kind of,

It's the germ of the seed of a completely new consciousness, a new cycle that's coming into the world. And so, yeah, it's a really precious moment right now. And I think we're going to see what we're going to see. And I really hope people understand this is that we're going to see an old way crumbling and a new shoot emerging in its midst.

And it's really up to us where we put our focus. You know, if we are focusing on the old crumbling, we're going to feel, we're going to be caught up in the wind of that chaos. We're going to be caught. We're going to be worried. We're going to feel the fear. We're going to be like, you know, horrified, shocked, you know, there's going to be chaos. There's nothing is certain, you know, and, and,

Whereas if we focus on the new on the inner on this these new shoots emerging then we're putting our Consciousness, you know, we're aligning it. This is what jinky 41 is called the anticipation the gift of anticipation We're aligning with the new emanation We're aligning with this new energy this new being that's coming into the world and we will be filled with the enthusiasm and and the powers of that new being and

As opposed to worrying, overly worrying, you know, I'm not saying we shouldn't be worried, by the way, but overly worrying or overly kind of fixated on, you know, the state of the world as a, you know, on the outside. It's a universal law, right?

In order for something new to be born on the inside, something old has to die on the outside. So it's the phoenix. It's why, you know, this in human design was called the cross of the sleeping phoenix that we're moving into. So, you know, the phoenix emerges from the ashes of the old world and

And, um, yeah, it's a, it's a, so it's a, it's actually a really beautiful time to be alive. It's a really exquisite, but you've got to pay attention over here and not get distracted over here. A hundred percent. It's, it's the best, but you know, catch me on a different day. And I'm like, this is, this is too much. Do you feel like with, um,

uh, sort of, I guess in prophecy in general, and then where we're going, do you feel like it's already set or, and we're kind of just moving towards it? Or do you feel like we're co-creating the future reality in every moment? Yeah. But so people have asked me that question before and the answer is, yeah, yeah. It's like a double answer. Both are true. I don't want to be asking the same question as other people. No, no, it's not that you've asked it. You've

It's like that key I was talking about, gene key 41. And its highest word is called emanation. And emanation is a lovely word. And it's, you know, there's a doctrine of emanation that came from the Kabbalistic teachings. And it's the notion that

The spiritual reality has already occurred, you know, but it just hasn't, we haven't kind of remembered it fully yet. You know, we, it's so, in other words, the truth is coming from the future towards the past, right? And it's, and we, and it meets us. And so we meet it and every, in every moment we meet the future arriving, but it's already done its job. It's already got to the end and, and, and, you know, the lights have been out and everyone's gone home. So, so it's, it's done. Yeah.

Um, at the same time, when we're in the show, because you've got involution, that's the involutionary current. And the other side is the evolutionary current. And when you're in the, in the theater and in the drama and in the form, and in one of these, you don't remember fully the details. You know, the script is, is like, we don't have the script. We just, you might, if you're lucky, remember everything.

the, you know, you might remember the kind of broad brushstrokes of what's going to happen. You know, that there's a happy ending involved, right? You know that there's a happy ending involved. I mean, that was what I experienced, you know,

kind of many years ago, I just, I just had this cellular kind of knowing of the return of the happy ending. And, you know, and I was just like, Oh my God, we're all going to be fine. And I've carried that ever since. March of 2020, I had this like vision. It was before everything kind of went down. It was like, Oh yeah, this is why we're here. This is what we're doing. It was just this, the craziest vision and experience of like, why I'm here, why we're here. This is what's happening. This is the moment. Like, this is the thing.

which obviously the ego loves that too, where we're like, yeah, that's just why we're here. But it was like, it was just like a truth of, of knowing that it is all okay. And that was like also Christ, you know, Christ coming and remembering and knowing that it's all okay.

Exactly. I think anyone that's had one of those big epiphanies or perhaps they might have had it through plant medicine or something, they have that real like deep revelation of the perfection of all being. And you're like, oh my God, we're just held in this embrace and this drama is unfolding. And all we have to do is be as impeccable as we can within ourself, be authentic to ourself, even if it means making all kinds of mistakes.

you know, at some level we're learning from all those mistakes and, and eventually we're going to be, you know, that deep compassionate being that we'll grow into. So, yeah, for me, it's both, both of those are true. So we, you know, we both,

know where we're going but at the same time we don't know how we're going to get there and we don't necessarily know the timing um but that's part of the attunement to miracles isn't it like if we knew where there wouldn't be miracles

Yeah. And also, you know, I've been really sitting with just faith and the word faith, you know, because it's like you can have faith on the outside of belief, but it's like, no, it really is the belief in the unseen. It's like the co-creation in every moment of what you believe to be true and what you believe to have faith. Something you've mentioned quite a bit that I think is going to be supportive of anyone in this process is contemplation.

And I want to talk about the importance of contemplation as someone that probably needs to spend more time in contemplation and explore it more. But it's one of those things that I think is a dire prescription for sort of what we're going through. So I'd love for you to talk a little bit about contemplation. Yeah, I love contemplation. I mean, it's just a lovely word, isn't it? It's a slow word. It's it doesn't it's, you know, it might begin with some thinking, but it doesn't

you know, it carries on. It goes deeper and deeper into us. It's a way of attuning to our inner world and to the inner world of everything. And so the more we give ourselves time to pause, you know, pausing is the secret of contemplation, the more we come into that breath rhythm we talked about, like that child's breath rhythm, right?

And so the more we're pausing and the more we're kind of creating that space for the magical, for the aesthetic, for the beautiful.

you know like i love tea for example chinese tea i do you know i have really i don't know if you uh you know that about me but i i kind of have these i do and i could guess it too yeah tea ceremonies and things that i do but i don't do them in a traditional form i just pick that up as an aesthetic thing that i love and i do it every morning and it's a symbol for curating a beautiful inner space

where you notice beauty, right? And, and the beauty is because you've found, because you've kind of come to a calm place inside yourself. And then whatever is going on around you. So I do, I live in the UK and it's, you know, most of the winter is just pretty, you know, for most people, it's really a struggle, deep winter, like now, January, February, it's like people really get depressed, you know, cause you can get these long gray days that go on day after day after day.

And then it's damp and it's wet and people find that hard. And I, for me, like, I love it because I see the nuances of like the, all the shades of the colors and the every day it's changing every day is like subtly different. But unless you're really paying attention, you don't, all you see is gray.

But if you're really paying attention, you don't, you see like miraculous little changes and shifts in details of sounds and the way birds move and the way that, you know, things happen. So I sit outside in the morning before dawn and I listen and I watch and sometimes the stars are there or sometimes it's raining and sometimes the wind is howling and sometimes it's completely quiet. And sometimes, you know, it's always different. It's always completely unique.

And so creating a contemplative space inside yourself, however you do it, is a beautiful thing to do.

We, so many of the people listening to this, you're already doing it in lots of different ways. Maybe it's in your yoga. Maybe it's in your swimming that you do. Maybe it's in, you know, it's a, it's a ritual that takes you into your inner world. Any ritual that brings you into your inner self is a contemplative thing. And those are precious things. If we can build them into rhythmic, um,

customs in our everyday lives, we start to really hum, you know, things start to just kind of synchronize around us because we're creating that kind of those conditions for good fortune because we're slowing down inwardly and we're noticing things and we're attuned to things and we pick up on things and we, we're listening to the field. You know, we're listening to like you pick up on when someone around you is in pain, for example,

And you might not have realized that otherwise, because you were busy with your own thoughts or worrying. And so you pick up on all kinds of things and you become very empathetic. And it's a, you know, contemplation is so powerful. I did this silly thing the other day. I just said how to, it was like a video meme. And I thought I'm going to do one of those memes that gets people's attention. And it was like how to be more powerful than a president.

you know of course it was aimed at certain person and and but it was like it's contemplation like if if you are contemplating you are you are creating like vortices all around you for good fortune you know you're just you're just like activating this field of like love and i don't know i mean it's i i

I get to a place where it's almost hard. It's so simple. It's almost hard to actually explain. You don't got to tell me about that. I completely, that's, and that's why we're here, you know, explaining it for 10 minutes. But my, so I'm curious what you feel about this. And I don't know if people can relate. So contemplation is something that I do and enjoy. I find that

So your ritual of your morning, as an example, going outside in nature. What would happen to me, and this could be a story, would be that I would create that ritual, but because I'd be doing it repeatedly, it would create an unconscious response in myself, which...

where I would then be unconscious. I'd then be going out and sitting on the porch. And then my mind and my ego would really be like having its dance and be like, oh, I'm contemplating, but I'm not. And it's like the first time I do something on the porch, I'm like, wow, the birds and the grasshoppers, you know, and I'm very present. But then the repetition causes me to lose my consciousness. What do you think about that?

Well, can you find a changing one? You know, are you like more like flowy and changing? I think I, it's like, cause when I travel, I'm just so dialed and I'm just so in and

Yeah, I would like to find them. It shouldn't be something that you're right. It should never be something that you don't really want to do. I know that's true. I don't want to punish. It's got to be something that just emerges like this. This morning, my contemplation is going to be sitting with my daughter or playing with my dog or whatever.

you know, your contemplation can be anything. That's true. I'm going for a walk today. I'm going to go to the cafe and write a poem. I'm going to, you know, it's like your contemplation can be anything. I mean, that's why I really love contemplation. It's very creative. It's very playful. It can be anything. It can change all the time. Yeah. So it shouldn't be a fixed thing. I just use that example because that's a, that, that is a rhythm that I do and I enjoy. And, and,

I have seemed to have done it for a long time and it's always different, but it's not everyone's way. You have to find your spontaneous way.

I think it's, you know, the level, if I was to make levels to it. But it's like, if you are attuning to the colors, the leaves, the temperature, you know, the birds, all of that. But I do think animals and nature is just such a great entry point to contemplation. And I'm so grateful for having animals in my life to be able to provide me with that presence and attunement and reminder of what's here and reminder of reality. Something, this is kind of a random question, but I'm

I get to do this podcast for myself too. So when we think about, you know, the, the changes in the human of what's going on, what kind of changes are happening with animals or other sentient beings as we evolve so much, um, as humans? Ooh, that's such a good question. I, I, I don't really know the answer to that. I mean, I, I, I think we're going to have to wait and see. Yeah. Like,

Because as we shift, everything shifts. I mean, it's not just we shifting, everything is shifting. And we're part of that shift. And my understanding is that in order for

One species on one planet to shift everything in the entire universe has to shift everything because you can't that everything's entangled So nothing escapes the shift if there's a shift coming And I think animals are caught in that shift as well I mean when I did this when I went to the medicine festival last year and Zach Bush and I did this thing on the stage and

And I told this story of the final father. I call it the final father. And it's this lovely story of meditation and the end of it. I'll do it for YouTube one of these days. Love that. And the end of it is the final father is like, you know, he's the last human. Like the mother was there at the beginning, the primordial mother, and the father is there at the end. And he's the last human. And all the processes of letting go are taking place in his body. Mm-hmm.

All the memories of all humans for since the beginning of time are resolving themselves All the pain is being resolved all the memory all the lost mothers are finding their children all the kind of difficult memories are just Reconfiguring all the souls are kind of coming into perfect resonance inside him because he's the he's the last one and then it's done and

And then there's this process of sort of him ascending, and then there's a sort of laughter. And then Gaia kind of starts to laugh. And in a way, I see at that point that Gaia is then the animals again. It's the animals and the creatures. And then the next mutation or the next kind of emanation

will emerge through the animal kingdom you know through the creatures and so so in this particular epoch that we start that we've sort of finished with the final father it was the ape you know the ape was the animal where it began and in the next evolution or epoch it might be another creature completely you know it might be an octopus yeah it might be it could be anything

And, and so it's like, I, you know, as humans, when we've done when we've done here, then I think the animal soul will kind of have its own, you know, journey. I think it has already, I think part of it might come with us as well. I think, you know, I feel that around my dogs, you know, do you have dogs? I have cats.

Cats. I know you have both, but I want dogs. I have dogs and cats. So they're like, you got the whole thing. I'm in that kind of madness of dogs and cats living together. Yeah.

It's really funny. They're two totally different types of consciousnesses. Mars and Venus. Yeah, Mars and Venus. I think my idea, I think cats are seeded alien creatures that are here on Earth. And I truly think they're just monitoring and sending back information to their home planet. I think my cats are off planet most of the time. I mean, it's so, it's like cats are so clearly...

Like, I don't know that they are that aren't they? They, they sort of, they're in charge as well. Like, it's so clear they're in charge. The dogs are just, you know, dogs. The best. They're just, they're just dogs. I want to talk a little bit about the star pearl sequence and sort of the, the inspiration for that. Like, did you see that coming? Like, what can people expect?

that are obviously, you know, our audience are huge fans of yours. But so what can they expect when we think about that? Well, it's a really cool thing. You know, it's the sort of most ambitious program I've ever done. It has the best tech of anything we've ever done so far. It's the most intricate. It's the most powerful. It's the longest program. I say, you know, you want to give it nine months.

um, to gestate inside you. It's, it's called, I call it the harmonics of the future human. It's about creating. We talked about it during this podcast perfectly. We've encapsulated it. It's like creating the conditions for the future human to kind of be born inside you. And so you have to do that through, through harmonics. It's musical in that sense. So,

It begins with a self-assessment that's a really powerful process. It takes about 40 minutes and the self-assessment asks you lots of questions about your life. And yet there's a slider.

between one and a hundred. And there are sentences of which we call, um, high harmonics, mid harmonics and low harmonics. And whichever one feels the closest, you put the slider sort of wherever you feel it belongs. It might be sort of 35. It's sort of between the low and the mid and, and it's very intuitive and quite, quite a powerful thing. And you might be asking a very specific question about, you know, your relationships or something. And,

and and boundaries for example and and so you you ask all these different questions and then you're giving yourself these scores that are then amalgamated and um

into these different spheres of the matrix through the template of the gene keys and so what you're basically doing is you are without realizing it Choosing a path a sequence through the gene keys, you know of this star this these pearls and there's three new keys that are coming in through the planet Uranus and Mercury and Saturn in this sequence so and people haven't seen those before if they've been working with gene keys and

And so, yeah, it becomes like a completely different new matrix. And then you'll be given one. I look forward to when you do this, Krista, like you'll be given one of 20, what we call them action triangles. And they're made of the four lowest scores you've given yourself.

And then there are gene keys that live in those three places in that triangle. And a triangle will have names. They're really quite cool names like passionate impact or mine's called fortune of your father's, the one I'm working on right now. Or my sister this morning, I talked to her, I said, have you done it? What did you get? And she said, oh, mine's called leading the charge. And she's the head of a big business in London now.

and doing all kinds of, you know, female empowerment work and stuff. And so anyway, it's like she's leading the charge. And it's really powerful because then you begin the process of working with these keys and working with the triangle and working with the sequence. And it's very specific to you. And all the, you're then given all the things you need. And there's quite a powerful workbook that you can use to work through it in your everyday life. And the idea is that

You don't, it's not just an inner work. It's also an outer work. So you're invited to come up with plans, action plans that over the period of, you know, as you're contemplating over weeks and months, um,

you start to make changes on the outside of your life as well. How about that, Richard? People making change on the outside. What do you mean? Applying their learnings to life. I know. What can you say? You know, everything you said today, that was, how about we apply what we know? And that is what I think...

A message I got through for a lot of my community is that they've been doing a lot of the work. They've been really going internal. They've been really doing a lot of excavation and understanding their shadows. And now it's time to double down on the gifts and it's time to actually implement this in our lives in a way that can be really joyful and fun. And that's obviously one of the most beautiful aspects of

of, you know, your field for me and what you do is bringing that aspect of play and curiosity and joy into everything. So I'm really excited about this. It's really playful and, um, and very practical. It's like, um,

It'll, it'll, it'll nail you, you know, where you need, where you're not looking. Right. And so if you're doing all this great spiritual work, for example, and, and yet, you know, you've overlooked your bank balance, you know, you're sort of like, well, you know, I'm doing this great. I'm still blissed out. You know, it'll get you there and it'll go, here's the area where you're weakest. You know, this is where you're going to focus.

You're going to focus on, you're going to actually do some things that change that. You're going to change it on the inside by seeing it and admitting it. And then you're going to do, you're actually going to do some things that change it. And, and it could be the other way around as well. So it's like, it's wherever you're, wherever you need more harmony, that's where you will

find yourself going. And then you do it again, you do a second self-assessment and you see how your scores may have changed. And, and the, the tech kind of starts to draw a map for you of your process. Um, so it's really cool because you can track your own process and you can see what's shifting in your life.

um and but you actually see it you you see it on the app but you also see it in your life obviously and you're and you and there's a spectrum like in jinkies there's this spectrum of consciousness it's a much more um this is laid out in like different bands with different colors and so you can see which part of the spectrum your your whole life is actually living in

And then you can think, well, so like you might be, you know, you might be 62, which would be a certain band, Citrine, let's say. They've got nice names. And then how do you get to 70? You know, what is needed in your life to shift you from 62 to 70?

And there's going to be some actions and there's going to be some change and some transformation. There's going to be a little bit of shadow that you have to look at probably. And your life is also going to tell you these things because you're going to be contemplating it. So it's going to come up and, and show you itself. And so it's just a very more, it's a much more nuanced way of working with the gene keys. Um,

I mean, that competitive element of being able to see my score and improve my score. I mean, it does work on that self. Because I'm always like, oh, I'm going to be the highest level. Well, there's a funny thing built in. Like if you get above 70, it starts to test you.

It says, are you sure? Yeah, that's true. It's like, are you lying? Here's a list of spiritual ego things. Yeah, it takes you to the spiritual ego lesson of it where you're like. Just the checklist, you know, just make sure. Honestly, it's like. I do say if you get above 80, your job's done. You know, forget it. You don't need any more tools ever of any sort. Yeah. What are you? What number are you? What number is the rate?

No one's been cheeky enough to ask me that yet. This is why I'm here. Are you going to tell? Are you going to reveal? This is the tea. I can't not. Okay. You're 88. I'm in the low 70s, which is actually pretty high. Embarrassing. Oh, high? Yeah. It's pretty high. No, that's... Okay, then I'm going to be 50. But the thing is that there's more, you know, as you...

As you go higher up, it becomes harder to go higher. That's a good one. Do you know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. Yeah. As a highly spiritual ego person. And it's not really high. It's more harmony. Yeah. So it's not like you're going high. You're creating more harmony. So I have some work to do. Okay. I'll keep you. I'll keep in posting on that. You know what would be cool is like seeing in the back end, you know, now that you are getting all this data, it's like, I'm curious if

There's certain places in the world where there's, because people are tuned in to specific consciencies, like where they have specific things that they're working on collectively, if there's groups of people that kind of are tuning into different things, because then collectively, if people are doing this work, they could support one another in like the improvement of things. But yeah, the data element is going to be so, so cool. It is interesting. And we can actually, you know, we have the data, you know, anyone can not

submit their data if they don't want to. And it's anonymous. So what we're looking at is we'll be looking at several thousand people going through a nine-month process together, and we can track the collective data. So you can actually see a line that should be climbing, let's hope, if the program works.

It might be doing some ups and downs, but it should be climbing over those nine months. So you should have several thousand people whose lives are becoming more harmonious. But each of them are working in very different ways. And so we've also created forums so that if you're working in the triangle of passionate impact, you can connect in that forum of passionate impact with other people also working with that triangle, with those energies. But they'll have different gene keys.

but they'll be in the same triangle. So it'll be really interesting to see how we can support each other, as you said. Yeah. Wow. This is kind of fun. It's amazing. I can't wait. I'm going to join. Maybe I'll meet my soulmate in my group. We have, he could be in my group. I wish that for you. I know. Same.

Same. I wish that if that's for the highest and greatest good of all, if that's part of the plan, we wish that. This has been always so much fun. I'm looking forward to our next one, to when we see each other in person. I'm really excited to do this. I'm so grateful for you and your work, your work.

Yeah, you're just one of the greats, you know, one of the great teachers for all the people that I know and love and respect. And I'm just so grateful to be alive at the same time as you and be able to connect with you. And yeah, I just adore you. Thank you, Krista. I adore you too. You're such a sweetheart. You really, really are. I'm a sweetie, bubby. You're doing amazing work. And, you know, everyone that's listening, I know they feel the same. Mm-hmm.

I love them. And I wouldn't be listening. Yeah. I mean, they're, you know, obviously huge fans of you. So we'll make sure to have all the information for everything in the show notes. They can join in and they can get started and I'll be in, you know, I was already sold, but, and I was talking to a friend about it this morning, but I'm going to definitely do it because it's time. It's, this is my year. Write and tell me your, your action triangle. Okay, cool. I'd love to know. Guess what? Can you guess?

Oh, no, I can't possibly guess. There's 20 of them and I don't know enough about your life. Okay. Intuitively, I don't know. Okay. It's a very difficult thing to do to guess that. It is. I'm excited to see too because I have some ideas. But one thing that you said earlier that I wrote down that I really love is people that are like both this work is both playful and practical. I love that. I'm like, that's a goal of my life to be playful and practical.

I think you are. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. I'm sending you a lot of love. I appreciate you sending a lot of love to our audience and I'll talk to you guys soon. Thank you. I'll see you. Bye.

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