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The Genius Myth, with Helen Lewis and Armando Iannucci (Part One)

2025/6/30
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Connor Boyle: 我认为我们今天讨论的核心是“天才”这个概念是否被过度使用,以及它是否扭曲了我们对社会的认知。我们经常听到像埃隆·马斯克这样的人被称为天才,但我们需要反思,这种称谓是否准确,或者我们是否遗漏了关于像爱因斯坦、达芬奇和披头士乐队这样的人的更深层次的故事。我们希望通过这次对话,探讨智商是否是衡量天才的有效标准,并引发大家对“天才”概念的更深层次思考。 Armando Iannucci: 我个人认为,我们现在对“天才”这个词的使用已经泛滥成灾。从苹果的“天才吧”到电影海报上的宣传语,似乎任何事物都可以被贴上“天才”的标签。这种过度使用不仅稀释了“天才”的真正含义,也使得我们难以区分真正的天才与那些只是在特定领域有所成就的人。我认为,如果“天才”确实存在,那么它应该是一种罕见且独特的品质,而不是一个可以随意使用的营销术语。 Helen Lewis: 我认为埃隆·马斯克是一个很好的例子,他最初被认为是现代天才的代表,能够创造出火箭、电动汽车和隧道等创新产品。然而,随着时间的推移,我们开始看到他的一些负面行为,例如削减社会福利项目和发表有争议的言论。这让我开始思考,“天才”是否只是一个被媒体和社会建构出来的概念,而真正的创新和进步往往需要谦逊、合作和持续学习。此外,特朗普的例子也值得我们深思,他被一些人视为天才的推销员和沟通者,但他的行为和言论也引发了广泛的争议。因此,我们需要更加批判性地看待“天才”这个概念,并思考它对我们社会的影响。

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The tortured poet. The rebellious scientist. The monstrous artist. The tech disruptor.

You can tell what a society values by who it labels as a genius. You can also tell who it excludes, who it enables, and what it is prepared to tolerate. Taking us from the Renaissance Florence of Leonardo da Vinci to the Florida rocket launches of Elon Musk’s SpaceX, Helen Lewis joined us to unravel a word that we all use — without really questioning what it means.

In conversation with acclaimed satirist and screenwriter Armando Iannucci she drew from her new book 'The Genius Myth' to uncover the secret of the Beatles’ success, discuss how biographers should solve the ‘Austen Problem’ and reveal why Stephen Hawking thought IQ tests were for losers.

Lewis and Iannucci asked if the modern idea of genius — a class of special people — is distorting our view of the world.


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