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Rethink what's family friendly

2025/6/24
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Laura: 我认为许多工作,即使传统上不被认为是家庭友好的,实际上也可以变得非常适合家庭。我通过收集时间记录数据发现,许多女性在法律、医学、金融、科技和咨询等领域工作,她们都能够很好地掌控自己的时间,平衡工作和家庭生活。职位越高,她们的自主性就越强,也越有能力应对潜在的挑战。例如,一位在对冲基金工作的女性告诉我,她基本上只工作市场时间加上前后各90分钟,而且她薪水很高。还有一位医生告诉我,她对年轻女性说“我想上医学院,但我也想要一个家庭”这样的话感到厌烦,因为她发现自己的工作比当老师的朋友们更灵活,而且收入也高出数倍。所以,我认为不要轻易排除任何可能性,如果你对某件事感兴趣,可以尝试一下;如果你得到一份工作,你可以协商你的工作方式,或者为那些注重结果的组织工作。我相信,只要你想,许多工作都可以变得非常适合家庭。

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Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good morning. This is Laura.

Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's tip is to rethink what is family-friendly. Sometimes jobs that aren't known for being family-friendly can be more doable than you think. Today's tip, like some others this week, comes from my book, I Know How She Does It, which came out 10 years ago this month. For this book, I collected time diary data from 1,001 days in the lives of women with big careers and families.

to see what life really looked like. It turns out that in the 168 hours of a week, there is time to work, have family time, sleep, exercise, read, or whatever else people choose to do. Lots of women and men, quietly and successfully, do have it all. Anyway, I collected data from women in all sorts of fields that have not, historically, been known for being family-friendly.

Law, medicine, finance, tech, consulting, you name it. And yet these women often had a ton of control of their time. And the higher up the ladder they were, the more autonomy they had. They also earned enough that they could afford the help they needed to deal with any potential challenges. For instance, a woman working at a hedge fund told me that despite her field's reputation, she basically worked market hours plus 90 minutes on either side.

That means that on a normal day, she worked from 8 to 5.30. Her time log showed that she did not work at night. She did not work on weekends. She got paid a lot. Not bad, right? Or consider a physician who told me she cringed when she heard younger women say things like, I'd like to go to medical school, but I also want a family. She noted that no one says, I'd like to be a teacher, but I also want to have a family, using that loaded word, but.

But the physician had arranged her life to have way more flexibility in her practice than her friends who were teachers turned out to have. And, she noted, she earned multiple times what her teacher friends were earning. I am sometimes asked what the best job is for working mothers. And I like to say CEO. I'm kidding, but only sort of. Because when you run the show, the meeting will happen when you want it to happen.

And if you want to leave early for something, you will. And other people will figure it out. And if you don't feel like cooking dinner, well, you can use some of your extra cash to sort out that problem. All that is to say, the evidence from time diaries is that many jobs that aren't known for being family-friendly can indeed be quite family-friendly if you want them to be. So don't rule anything out. If you find something intriguing...

and you'd like to try it, you could. If you are offered a job, you can always negotiate to work however you'd like. Or you can simply work for organizations that focus on results, especially if you see that other people there tend to be enjoying full lives as well. They are in on a little secret. Sometimes things are family-friendly that aren't known for being family-friendly. Maybe you can take advantage of that secret too. In the meantime, this is Laura.

Thanks for listening. And here's to making the most of our time. Thanks for listening to Before Breakfast. If you've got questions, ideas, or feedback, you can reach me at laura at lauravandercam.com. Before Breakfast is a production of iHeartMedia. For more podcasts from iHeartMedia, please visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Before Breakfast

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